George Carlin (RIP) - Was He A Philosopher? [yes]
Immortalist
an American stand-up comedian, actor and author who won four Grammy
Awards for his comedy albums.
Carlin was especially noted for his political and black humor and his
observations on language, psychology, and religion along with many
taboo subjects. Carlin and his "Seven Dirty Words" comedy routine were
central to the 1978 U.S. Supreme Court case F.C.C. v. Pacifica
Foundation, in which a narrow 5-4 decision by the justices affirmed
the government's right to regulate Carlin's act on the public
airwaves.
Seven Dirty Words
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BTyzTJTNhNk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C.C._v._Pacifica_Foundation
In the 2000s, Carlin's stand-up routines focused on the flaws in
modern-day America. He often took on contemporary political issues in
the United States and satirized the excesses of American culture.
He placed second on the Comedy Central cable television network list
of the 10 greatest stand-up comedians, ahead of Lenny Bruce and behind
Richard Pryor.[19] He was a frequent performer and guest host on The
Tonight Show during the three-decade Johnny Carson era, and was also
the first person to host Saturday Night Live.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin
George Carlin - 2008 - It's Bad for Ya! (1 to 7)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oxXkJoSgeXo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2yhiiZAz3MY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1VhzGa2jDs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YA_fA2j_Qvw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BU5EycsEf6Y
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pdR7vVK0o7w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XxoKMzLCzh0
turtoni
personally ever heard of him. everybody is a philosopher by default. i
personally enjoy people making fun of the status quo. i'm kinda
perverse too i guess.
Immortalist
Thats like saying every movie has philosophy by default, which I could
agree with, but some movies cover many more general philosophical
issues than others. I think carlin was like that if you listen to all
of his stuff he covers much metaphysics, logic, ethics and religious
belief. I am not trying judge whether someone is good or bad because
they address alot of traditional philosophical issues but just noting
the difference generally, for instance this rant about abortion at the
time was both contraversial and raised some interesting philosophical
points also;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=61IE-SkAtug
This movie below addresses amny more traditional philosophy views than
most other movies, even if all movies have some by default.
The Matrix and Philosophy: Welcome to the Desert of the Real (Popular
Culture and Philosophy)
http://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Philosophy-Welcome-Popular-Culture/dp/081269502X
Sir Frederick
turtoni
so you're saying that you think Mr Carlin was a *great* philosopher.
and thats fine.
turtoni
do we have an Immortalist and Sir Frederick convergence?
Sir Frederick
>
>do we have an Immortalist and Sir Frederick convergence?
We shall both die. How's that for convergence?
turtoni
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:40:31 -0700 (PDT), turtoni <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote:
>
> >do we have an Immortalist and Sir Frederick convergence?
>
> We shall both die. How's that for convergence?
Sir Frederick
Of course death is strictly from ignorance. It used to be
from principle, some kind of over arching requirement.
Today we at least have the nanotechnology of "life"
in view, and will soon manage our way out. If only we
weren't still so ignorant on that nanotechnology!
ZerkonX
> In the 2000s, Carlin's stand-up routines focused on the flaws in
> modern-day America.
Mani Deli
didn't help the Bush bastards sell their fake war but he'll be
remembered far longer than Tim Russert.
Carlin really knew how to drop an "F" bomb. Ever wonder how he would
have conducted "Meet the Press?"
Carlin had great insight, he was bitter at times but with good
reason. He left when we really need him. If you want to tell people
the truth, make them laugh, it's safer that way.
There's nothing funny about losing a great comedian.
"The owners of this country count on the fact that Americans will
probably remain wilfully ignorant of the big Red White Blue dick
that's being jammed up their assholes every day. Because the owners of
this country know the truth, it's called the American Dream, because
you have to be asleep to believe it."
George Carlin on who really controls America--
watch the whole video
http://www.bestcyrano.org/carlinGeorgeWhoReally407.htm
".... mostly dark tonight, followed by scattered light in the
morning."
curmudgeon
freedom fighters, fight?"
*George Carlin* 1937 - 2008
*curmudgeon*
"The best read illiterate in the country"
Wordsmith
> "If crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what then do
> freedom fighters, fight?"
> *George Carlin* 1937 - 2008
Determinists.
Seriously, I'm sad George is gone. Even though
his atheist screeds were shrill to the point of
protesting too much, he was the funniest guy
alive.
W : (
Immortalist
> Will George Carlin get 2 weeks of national mourning? No way! He
> didn't help the Bush bastards sell their fake war but he'll be
> remembered far longer than Tim Russert.
>
Interesting comparison, thanx. Actually I will miss them both. Russert
because sunday will never be the same without him on meet the press.
But actually I have not watched much tv in the last couple years and
there has been alot of sunday morning talk politics shows. But Carlin
doesn't have any competitors since other comedians don't go as deep it
seems. I am sure there are other ways to compare the situations,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PW7EbURS2h4
> Carlin really knew how to drop an "F" bomb. Ever wonder how he would
> have conducted "Meet the Press?"
>
> Carlin had great insight, he was bitter at times but with good
> reason. He left when we really need him. If you want to tell people
> the truth, make them laugh, it's safer that way.
>
> There's nothing funny about losing a great comedian.
>
> "The owners of this country count on the fact that Americans will
> probably remain wilfully ignorant of the big Red White Blue dick
> that's being jammed up their assholes every day. Because the owners of
> this country know the truth, it's called the American Dream, because
> you have to be asleep to believe it."
>
> George Carlin on who really controls America--
>
> watch the whole videohttp://www.bestcyrano.org/carlinGeorgeWhoReally407.htm
Wordsmith
> On Jun 24, 9:20 am, Mani Deli <noth...@inter.com> wrote:
>
> > Will George Carlin get 2 weeks of national mourning? No way! He
> > didn't help the Bush bastards sell their fake war but he'll be
> > remembered far longer than Tim Russert.
>
> Interesting comparison, thanx. Actually I will miss them both. Russert
> because sunday will never be the same without him on meet the press.
> But actually I have not watched much tv in the last couple years and
> there has been alot of sunday morning talk politics shows. But Carlin
> doesn't have any competitors since other comedians don't go as deep it
> seems. I am sure there are other ways to compare the situations,
Carlin was no philosopher in the academic sense, but he did know
how to make ideas, especially about the paradoxes involving
words and language, palatable to a mass audience. If you can do
that, you are, in my estimation, batting a cool thou.
W : )
Sean
I didn;t know he died, never heard a word on the news outlets. Must have
missed it.
Nice post, watched that series of 7 "it's all bullshit and it's all bad for
ya!"
Fantastic!
I was introdcued to Carlin a few years back from my Son, who got into
standup for a bit. George and Bill Hicks sure were leading lights in in ur
face social opinion. Loved it! They never got much air time in australia
though.
Youtube is a winner! :-)
cheers
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