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Chris Blaise

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Sep 21, 2001, 12:11:21 AM9/21/01
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The 11pm news on KCNC, the local CBS affiliate in Denver
started their program with a segment on Bush's speech to Congress.
The anchor framing the segment informed us that it's been a long time
since we as Americans have witnessed such an important address and
that already Mr. Bush was being compared to Theodore Roosevelt, the
President that led us into World War II.

Chris

Deirdre Sholto-Douglas

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Sep 21, 2001, 12:18:42 AM9/21/01
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Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:

> The 11pm news on KCNC, the local CBS affiliate in Denver
> started their program with a segment on Bush's speech to Congress.
> The anchor framing the segment informed us that it's been a long time
> since we as Americans have witnessed such an important address and
> that already Mr. Bush was being compared to Theodore Roosevelt, the

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


> President that led us into World War II.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

<sigh>

Deirdre


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Alan Gore

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:50:01 AM9/21/01
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Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:

>... Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.

Ooooh - a new Harry Turtledove is out that I haven't sen yet?

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Jim Hill

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:58:49 AM9/21/01
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Alan Gore wrote:
>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>
>>... Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>
>Ooooh - a new Harry Turtledove is out that I haven't sen yet?

No, dumbass. Theodore Roosevelt is the President who led us into World
War II and Harry Turtledove is the President who led us out after TR
died. Read a friggin' history book, ya Limey import.


Jim
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John Thomas - Lucent ASCC

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Sep 21, 2001, 8:14:48 AM9/21/01
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Oops, wrong Roosevelt.  Franklin was the WWII guy.  Teddy fought in Puerto Rico.
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Alan Gore

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Sep 21, 2001, 9:55:31 AM9/21/01
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jim...@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote:

>Alan Gore wrote:
>>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>>
>>>... Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>>
>>Ooooh - a new Harry Turtledove is out that I haven't sen yet?
>
>No, dumbass. Theodore Roosevelt is the President who led us into World
>War II and Harry Turtledove is the President who led us out after TR
>died. Read a friggin' history book, ya Limey import.

Fascinating. Is there a text of the Bull Moose Party's New Deal
available online anywhere?

Jim Hill

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Sep 21, 2001, 11:40:59 AM9/21/01
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Alan Gore wrote:
>jim...@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote:
>
>>Alan Gore wrote:
>>>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>... Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>>>
>>>Ooooh - a new Harry Turtledove is out that I haven't sen yet?
>>
>>No, dumbass. Theodore Roosevelt is the President who led us into World
>>War II and Harry Turtledove is the President who led us out after TR
>>died. Read a friggin' history book, ya Limey import.
>
>Fascinating. Is there a text of the Bull Moose Party's New Deal
>available online anywhere?

I'm not a search engine with feet. If you Google this up, make sure you
find the transcripts of TR's third inaugural address -- it's still quite
moving today, especially the part where he promises each of us forty
acres and a mule in every pot.

Chris Blaise

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Sep 21, 2001, 12:41:32 PM9/21/01
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:55:31 GMT, ag...@qwest.net (Alan Gore) wrote:

>jim...@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote:
>
>>Alan Gore wrote:
>>>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>... Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>>>
>>>Ooooh - a new Harry Turtledove is out that I haven't sen yet?
>>
>>No, dumbass. Theodore Roosevelt is the President who led us into World
>>War II and Harry Turtledove is the President who led us out after TR
>>died. Read a friggin' history book, ya Limey import.
>
>Fascinating. Is there a text of the Bull Moose Party's New Deal
>available online anywhere?

I couldn't find it, but I do remember hearing about a painting
of ol' Teddy Delano Roosevelt leading the Rough Riders into Berlin
during the final days of WWII from his trusty wheelchair. For some
reason a search for "theodore roosevelt berlin rough roiders" doesn't
bring up anything though.

Anyway, I'm told it brings a tear to every American's eye that
sees it.

*sniff*

Chris

jtchewfiless...@california.com

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Sep 21, 2001, 12:33:03 PM9/21/01
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> Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.

<kaff> You're thinking of Franklin Roosevelt.

Theodore Roosevelt (one of FDR's cousins or uncles, wasn't he?), a remarkable
and hugely influential man in his own right, served two terms as President
shortly after the turn of the century. He could conceivably have become the
President who led us into World War *I*, but his third-party candidacy in
1912 fell short; Woodrow Wilson was elected. He died long before World War
II. See for instance
http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/timeline.htm

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--Joe

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Ayse Sercan

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:04:45 PM9/21/01
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Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
> I couldn't find it, but I do remember hearing about a painting
>of ol' Teddy Delano Roosevelt leading the Rough Riders into Berlin
>during the final days of WWII from his trusty wheelchair. For some
>reason a search for "theodore roosevelt berlin rough roiders" doesn't
>bring up anything though.

That's probably just because you misspelled "raiders". HTH.

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rich

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:38:26 PM9/21/01
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Also schrieb ay...@idiom.com:

>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>> I couldn't find it, but I do remember hearing about a painting
>>of ol' Teddy Delano Roosevelt leading the Rough Riders into Berlin
>>during the final days of WWII from his trusty wheelchair. For some
>>reason a search for "theodore roosevelt berlin rough roiders" doesn't
>>bring up anything though.
>
>That's probably just because you misspelled "raiders". HTH.

Or because he was looking for TR's weight lifting contingent.

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But the People in their weeping / Bare the iron hand
Beware the people weeping / When they bare the iron hand --Herman Melville

Alan Gore

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:40:41 PM9/21/01
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jim...@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote:

>>Fascinating. Is there a text of the Bull Moose Party's New Deal
>>available online anywhere?
>
>I'm not a search engine with feet. If you Google this up, make sure you
>find the transcripts of TR's third inaugural address -- it's still quite
>moving today, especially the part where he promises each of us forty
>acres and a mule in every pot.

TR's Republican/Bull Moose New Deal would probably have had as its
centerpiece a national profit sharing/401-K plan for the retirement of
American workers. A War Progress Administration would put the homeless
to work building B-25's, a Federal Art Project to promote capitalist
realism. Don't forget John Steinbeck's epic novel in which a young
Wall Street stockbroker, busted in the Crash, makes his way west in a
patched-up Duesenberg to find a new life in Beverly Hills.

And the NRA logo that companies would proudly display in their
advertising would mean that everyone at the office has passed his/her
marksmanship test.

Jim Hill

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:22:06 PM9/21/01
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Ayse Sercan wrote:
>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>> I couldn't find it, but I do remember hearing about a painting
>>of ol' Teddy Delano Roosevelt leading the Rough Riders into Berlin
>>during the final days of WWII from his trusty wheelchair. For some
>>reason a search for "theodore roosevelt berlin rough roiders" doesn't
>>bring up anything though.
>
>That's probably just because you misspelled "raiders". HTH.

Hey, YOU spend all day in a saddle and tell me the proper word isn't
"roiders".

Jim Hill

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Sep 21, 2001, 1:21:11 PM9/21/01
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wrote:

>> Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>
><kaff> You're thinking of Franklin Roosevelt.

Actually, he was thinking that the local newsdroid was an uneducated
prat -- hence the Subject: of thisyere thread.

>Theodore Roosevelt (one of FDR's cousins or uncles, wasn't he?)

Cousin.

>a remarkable
>and hugely influential man in his own right, served two terms as President
>shortly after the turn of the century.

TR was the greatest President of the Twentieth Century, well-deserving
of his enshrinement atop Mount Rushmore.

John Bonnett

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Sep 21, 2001, 5:12:42 PM9/21/01
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On 21 Sep 2001 10:04:45 -0700, ay...@idiom.com (Ayse Sercan) wrote:

>Chris Blaise <chris-@-blaise-dot-.-com> wrote:
>> I couldn't find it, but I do remember hearing about a painting
>>of ol' Teddy Delano Roosevelt leading the Rough Riders into Berlin
>>during the final days of WWII from his trusty wheelchair. For some
>>reason a search for "theodore roosevelt berlin rough roiders" doesn't
>>bring up anything though.
>
>That's probably just because you misspelled "raiders". HTH.

And you'd be *much* closer to the mark if you were typing "riders"
to begin with.

John (remember the Maine) Bonnett

E Varden

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Sep 22, 2001, 11:06:28 AM9/22/01
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jtchewfiless...@california.com wrote:
>
> > Theodore Roosevelt, the President that led us into World War II.
>
> <kaff> You're thinking of Franklin Roosevelt.
>
> Theodore Roosevelt (one of FDR's cousins or uncles, wasn't he?), a remarkable
> and hugely influential man in his own right


I'll say. He invented the Teddy Bear.


Pe

ObP: We never had a Theodora Bear. Although, now that I think of
it, the Teddy with the crotch-snaps is a nice heritage...

ObSyntaxP: CBC radio news: "...only ten percent are leaving the
country themselves."

Adrian Smith

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Sep 22, 2001, 3:02:34 PM9/22/01
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jim...@swcp.com (Jim Hill) wrote in message news:<9oekup$2...@boofura.swcp.com>...

> Read a friggin' history book, ya Limey import.

Alan, British?

Say it ain't so.

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Alan Gore

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Sep 22, 2001, 4:21:41 PM9/22/01
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adrian_...@yahoo.com (Adrian Smith) wrote:

>Say it ain't so.

Originally from Manchester.

Adrian Smith

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Sep 23, 2001, 6:30:15 AM9/23/01
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ag...@qwest.net (Alan Gore) wrote in message news:<3bacf2c4....@news.qwest.net>...

> adrian_...@yahoo.com (Adrian Smith) wrote:
>
> >Say it ain't so.
>
> Originally from Manchester.

But you *sound* even more American than the...

Oh. Yeah. OK.

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Alex Elliott

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Sep 24, 2001, 11:20:28 AM9/24/01
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ag...@qwest.net (Alan Gore) wrote in news:3bacf2c4....@news.qwest.net:
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> Originally from Manchester.

Now I have that fucking song from "Hair" stuck in my head going "Manchester,
England, England" over and over and over again.

Thanks a lot.

Alex.

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