Mark Probe wrote:
<<<<[Gastaldo] is a specie of anti-Jew who attempts to re-write Judaic Law to fit
his own agenda.>>>>
I am no more of an “anti-Jew” than the “pro-Jew” who, sincere in his or her
spiritual motives, holds down the infant Jew and mutilates his penis.
I believe I am just as sincere - and more informed about Jewish history - than
many if not most who call themselves Jews... Indeed, I believe I am a Jew - in
the sense noted by former U.S. Justice Department Attorney John Loftus and
Australian Mark Aaron in their book, The Secret War Against the Jews. [1994] See
below.
I have not attempted to “re-write Judaic law.”
Rather, I have offered good evidence that ancient rabbis OFTEN re-wrote "Judaic
Law"; that is, I have offered good evidence that ancient rabbis often re-wrote
their interpretations of Biblical law.
Here is the pertinent excerpt from my “Talmudic rabbis” post which Mr. Probe
dismissed without comment...
<<<<<<< BEGIN excerpt from Gastaldo's Talmudic rabbis post >>>>>>>>>
Hershel Shanks, editor of Moment, recently noted that “the rabbis of the Talmud
OFTEN changed the Biblical rules” (emphasis added):
“A friend...[argued]...with regard to the Orthodox rabbis’ pronouncement
declaring Reform and Conservative not Judaism...[that]...[i]t’s all
traceable to the [U.S.] Reform decision nearly 15 years ago to adopt
patrilineality - a child born of a Jewish father, if raised as a Jew, is
Jewish....
“....[I]n Biblical times, Jewish descent was determined by the Jewishness
of the father...The rabbis changed that 2,000 year-old tradition...Indeed
the rabbis of the Talmud OFTEN changed the Biblical rules (emphases
added)...”
[Shanks H. Tolerance v. Halachah. Moment. (Jun)1997;22(3):6, 8-9]
Shanks’ 1997 Moment article says about patrilineality what I am saying
about infant mutilation. Specifically, I am saying that the rabbis of the Talmud
switched from foreskin tip amputation to total foreskin amputation - to deny Jews
religious freedom.
Edward Wallerstein writes:
"Originally, the surgery involved only cutting the tip of the foreskin.
This was changed in the Hellenic Period to prevent [Jews from]
elongat[ing] the foreskin stump in order to appear uncircumcised."
[Wallerstein E. Humanistic Judaism 1983;11(4):46]
Wallerstein’s research is supported by The Jewish Encyclopedia which
indicates that a Jewish “rage for athletics” occurred around 175 BCE
when the Seleucid king Antiochus IV offered citizenship to those who
adopted the athletic Greek way of life. Jason, high priest of Jerusalem,
offered to increase his tribute to Antiochus IV if he would build a
Greek-style gymnasium in Jerusalem. The gymnasium was built. As Jews
began participating in the nude games, “devout Jews” (a minority of Jews)
found to their horror that a partially exposed glans (i.e., a
”mini”-circumcised penis) was considered vulgar. Compounding the horror
(of this minority of “devout Jews”) was the fact that many Jews -
including perhaps Jewish priests - were stretching their “mini”
circumcisized foreskins so as not to appear circumcised.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia:
“[D]evout Jews began to look upon the exercises with horror, especially
because most of them were practised "in puris naturilibus" and the
Covenant of Abraham had become an object of derision. Nevertheless, for
a time at least, the rage for Athletics spread even to the priests...
[See Athletics in Singer I (and 400 others, eds.) The Jewish
Encyclopedia. New York: Ktav 1901.]
"...[T]he consequence was [the] attempt to appear like the Greeks by
epispasm ('making themselves foreskins')... [See Circumcision in Singer I
(and 400 others, eds.), 1901]
Forty years later (134 BCE), the high priest of Jerusalem, John Hyrcanus,
forcibly circumcised the Idumeans, “leading them to think they were
Jews.” [Gribetz J, Greenstein EL, Stein RS. The Timetables of Jewish
History. New York: Simon and Schuster 1993. Judah Gribetz is president
of the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York.]
It was during this period that Jewish priests apparently decided that
stretching the foreskin was wrong and threatened the extermination of
those Jews who stretched their foreskins:
“The Book of Jubilee (xv. 26-27), written in the time of John Hyrcanus,
has the following: '...God's anger will be kindled against the children
of the covenant if they make the members of their body appear like those
of the Gentiles, and they will be expelled and exterminated from the
earth.'“ [Charles, The Book of Jubilees iv.-ix. iii. 190-192, under
Circumcision in Singer I (and 400 others, eds.) The Jewish Encyclopedia.
New York: Ktav 1901.]
But Jews of this period apparently construed the “no stretching” decree
to mean that it was all right not to circumcise; for when the son of John
Hyrcanus took power in 104 BCE (by imprisoning his mother and killing his
brother), he forced circumcision on the residents of Galilee - “many of
them Jews.”
The shift to total foreskin amputation is believed to have occurred one
hundred years later, after the unsuccessful Bar Kokba uprising against
the Roman Emperor Hadrian (who had completely outlawed circumcision):
"In order to prevent the obliteration of the "seal of the covenant"...the
Rabbis, probably after the war of Bar Kokba (see Yeb. l.c.; Gen. R.
xivi.), instituted the 'peri'ah' (the laying bare of the glans), without
which circumcision was declared to be of no value (Shab. xxx. 6)." [See
Circumcision in Singer I (and 400 others, eds.), 1901]
"Thenceforward [total foreskin amputation - the laying bare of the glans]
was the mark of Jewish loyalty." [See Circumcision in Singer I (and 400
others, eds.), 1901]
<<<<<<< END excerpt from Gastaldo's Talmudic rabbis post >>>>>>>>>
The historical evidence that the ancient rabbis threatened to “exterminate” Jews
who tried to appear uncircumcised and then made a switch to TOTAL foreskin
amputation indicates that the penile mutilation originally/allegedly commanded by
God left most of the foreskin on the penis...
Instead of addressing these matters, Mr. Probe engages in libel, labelling me a
“Jew-Hater” and a “critter.”
<<<<I have met these critters before.>>>>
Mr. Probe's "critter" comment reminds me of Israeli President Chaim Weizmann's
comment early in this century: "[T]here arises in me a terrible hatred towards
‘Jews’ who turn away from [Zionism]. I perceive them as animals unworthy of the
name homo sapiens.” [Weizmann quoted in Rose Chaim Weizmann 1986]
Mr. Probe continues:
<<<<Usually ["critters" like Gastaldo] take the form of the person who tries to
disprove the existence of the Holocaust by re-writing what happened...>>>>
I have NEVER tried to disprove the existence of the Holocaust. My understanding
is that the Allies knew what was going on in those camps and did nothing.
Ultra-Orthodox Neturey Karta rabbis rather openly claim (in periodic ads in the
New York Times) that "Israel is the enemy of the Jews" because it was founded
before the coming of the Messiah. More "mainstream" Orthodox rabbis openly
claim that Israel "never was a Jewish state"; both of which sentiments accord
well with the evidence that "the four great powers" hijacked Judaism by
"adopting" Zionism - at a time when most European Jews - and Orthodox Palestinian
Jews - were opposed to Zionism. See Mansfield The Arabs 1985 quoted in the
“religious” note to the pediatricians listed in my “Dr. Poland suing Gastaldo??”
post...
http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@25384@misc%2ekids%2...
In 1920, Churchill told the British that Jews created “the Antichrist”
(Bolshevism) and that Zionism was “the antidote.” [Churchill. Zionism vs.
Bolshevism: a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people. Illustrated Sunday
Herald, Feb. 8, 1920]
Years before, Weizmann (future first president of Israel) first approached the
British and told them that, “An imperial synthesis between England and Jewry
would be the greatest thing imaginable” [Weizmann quoted in Reinharz Chaim
Weizmann 1993]...
Weizmann also told the British that, “[Zionists], too...believe that Germans of
the Mosaic faith are an undesirable, demoralizing phenomenon” [Weizmann quoted in
Reinharz Chaim Weizmann 1993];
Even pro-Zionists admit "the essential accuracy" of author Aharon Megged's
statement that "hundreds of [Israel's] leading writers, intellectuals, academics,
authors and journalists" believe that Zionism amounts to "an evil colonialist
conspiracy to exploit the people dwelling in Palestine, enslave them, and steal
their land." [Halkin H. Israel against itself. Commentary 1994;98(5):33-39.]
Mysteriously, as Hitler was consolidating his power in Germany, the AMA began
advocating the circumcision of all infant American males. In 1935, JAMA editor
Morris Fishbein, MD began publishing a chapter entitled “Sex Hygiene,” authored
by Thurman B. Rice, M.D., in every edition of his (Fishbein’s) Modern Home
Medical Advisor (1935, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1948, 1951, 1953, 1956). The same
falsehoods appeared in the 1958 edition of Fishbein’s Illustrated Medical and
Health Encyclopedia.
JAMA editor Morris Fishbein, M.D. informed readers that circumcision “diminishes”
the possibility of venereal disease and prevents “inflammation and irritation.”
These latter, he said, are associated with bed-wetting and with “complications of
the sexual life...”
Ignoring the fact that the foreskin is not retractable in 95% of infants (or
perhaps capitalizing on this fact), Fishbein claimed, “If the foreskin can be
completely and easily retracted most authorities think that circumcision should
not be done; but when there is the least doubt about the matter decision should
be made in favor of the operation, which is a trivial one when done within the
first week or two of life.”
Dr. Fishbein ignored the fact that babies scream, writhe and bleed - and
sometimes die - from their circumcisions. And he ignored the fact that
retracting the foreskin causes the very “inflammation and irritation” that
circumcision ostensibly prevents.
Dr. Fishbein offered advice known to cause the “need” for circumcision, writing
that if a baby is not circumcised, “the mother or nurse should carefully retract
the foreskin each day.”
Dr. Fishbein further advised American mothers that, “Many ‘nervous,’ restless,
and ‘fidgety’ boys can be helped by circumcision”...
Why would America’s physicians become so suddenly enamored with infant
mutilation???
Why would they claim that babies can’t feel pain??
This question has nagged me ever since Ronald Poland, MD perpetuated phony
“babies can’t feel pain” neurology in 1987...
People will scoff. They will laugh. But I think American medicine’s mass infant
mutilation project was a Zionist intelligence operation... I got this idea from
former U.S. Justice Department Attorney John Loftus and Australian Mark Aarons,
who authored a book entitled, The Secret War Against the Jews [1994], discussed
below.
Loftus and Aarons [1994] are not talking about the sincere masses of Zionist Jews
who profess a love of the Bible with its promise that if Jews mutilate their
infants they will own all the land between the Nile and the Euphrates...
Indeed, according to Loftus Aarons [1994], in the eyes of the intelligence
community we are all, in effect, sincere Zionist Jews. We don’t know our
history. We don’t know how Israel really came into existence...
Loftus and Aarons [1994] - or rather “the intelligence sources” they interviewed
- are talking about Zionism’s inner sanctum - represented perhaps by the Zionist
bankers who encouraged the Allied administrator of Germany (John J. McCloy) to
free all the Nazi industrialists who had been convicted at Nuremburg. [Chernow R.
The Warburgs. New York: Vantage 1993]
According to Loftus and Aarons [1994], Zionists owned long-standing CIA
intelligence chief Jesus Angleton; and long-standing CIA Director Allen Dulles
(placed on the Warren Commission shortly after Kennedy fired him) wittingly or
unwittingly placed “Max” at the core of Western intelligence.
Chernow’s [1993] claim that Zionist bankers gave John J. McCloy the green-light
to free all Nazi industrialists, is only a little less astonishing than Loftus
and Aaron’s [1994] claim that a super-secret Zionist organization code-named
“Max” ran World War II...
To those who are rolling their eyes, NONE of this is any more bizarre than the
FACT that the American medical profession was rather suddenly commandeered to
inflict onto all American males a mutilation identical to the fraudulent Jewish
Covenant (total foreskin amputation)...
According to Loftus and Aarons [1994]: “Soviet intelligence used a network of
‘Fascist Jews,’ codenamed Max...to destroy the German army on the Eastern
front...Stalin agreed to support the partition of Israel in return for Zionist
silence about Soviet penetration of the CIA...[Max] revealed [CIA director-to-be]
Allen Dulles’ secret deals with the Nazis...In effect, the extra votes for
passage [of the partition of Palestine] in the UN were bought with the blood of 6
million Jewish victims of the Holocaust.
Loftus and Aarons forget to mention the blood of the 20 million OTHER people who
died in this ostensible grisly intelligence operation...
According to Loftus and Aarons [1994], “Ben-Gurion kept his part of the bargain.
Rosters of fugitive Nazis were quietly buried in the Israeli intelligence
archives. Plans for presenting evidence at ongoing war crimes trials were
shelved for years while Ben-Gurion was either prime minister or defense minister.
For the next twelve years, Israel never published a wanted list, never
extradited a Nazi, never held a war crimes trial.” [Loftus J, Aarons M. The
Secret War Against the Jews New York: St. Martin’s Press 1994]
Weizmann, who thought an “imperial synthesis” between Britain and the Jews would
be “the greatest thing imaginable,” regarded Jews who rejected Zionism as
"animals unworthy of the name homo sapiens.” [Weizmann quoted in Rose Chaim
Weizmann 1986]
I say that Judaism was hijacked by “the four great powers” and Zionism was the
vehicle. Again, see the "religious" note in my post "Dr. Poland suing
Gastaldo"...
http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@25384@misc%2ekids%2...
<<<<Debating [“critters” like Gastaldo] is pointless and gives their so-called
ideas credence. Calling them what they are - Jew Haters - is all they
deserve.>>>>
I believe that Mr. Probe is quite sincere in his belief that holding down infant
Jews and mutilating their penises isn't "Jew-Hating"; but I am just as sincere in
my belief that marshalling the information necessary to stop the mutilation of
infant Jews and non-Jews is not "Jew-Hating."
<<<<Unfortunately, ["critters" like Gastaldo] infest every group....Even more
unfortunately, there is no vaccine to prevent their spread....>>>>
Mr. Probe’s mention of “vaccine” to prevent the spread of people like me is
interesting. The U.S. Supreme Court used vaccination to prevent the spread of
people in America and this use of vaccination to justify sterilization reportedly
played a role in the Nazi’s justification of their first steps toward the
Holocaust.
According to Kühl [1994], “the entire German sterilization discussion prior to
the implementation of the Law on Preventing Hereditarily Ill Progeny, passed on
July 14, 1933, was strongly influenced by American models.” [Kühl S. The Nazi
connection: eugenics, American racism, and German National Socialism. New York:
Oxford University Press 1994.]
Writes Kühl [1994], “...German sterilization expert Otto Kankeleit also published
a book...[which]...referred to the 1927 Supreme Court decision that [invoked
vaccination and - TDG] ruled in favor of the constitutionality of compulsory
sterilization.”
Kühl [1994] quotes the U.S. Supreme Court decision: “The principle that
sustained compulsory vaccination, is broad enough to cover the cutting of the
Fallopian tubes.”
Kühl notes that Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, “was full of praise for the fact that
the [U.S.] Immigration Restriction Act excluded ‘undesirables’ on the basis of
hereditary illness and race.”
Kühl also notes that “The Rockefeller Foundation played the central role in
establishing and sponsoring major eugenic institutes in Germany, including the
Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for
Anthropology, Eugenics, and Human Heredity.” [Kühl S. The Nazi connection:
eugenics, American racism, and German National Socialism. New York: Oxford
University Press 1994.]
Mr. Probe closes his post with an allusion to the Holocaust...
<<<<NEVER AGAIN!>>>>
Again, I say Judaism was hijacked and Zionism was the vehicle. I think Loftus
and Aarons are right. We ARE all Jews in the eyes of the British/American
intelligence community - with its covert ties all over the world.
I think the Holocaust was just a warm-up - and I think us Jews (including “real”
circumcizing Jews) can prevent another Holocaust by:
1) Publicly working to stop the infant screams thus INSTANTLY saving America $200
millon dollars per year - by PRESERVING the mutilation as a CHOICE American males
can make for themselves in adulthood; and
2) Publicly working to stop the multi-billion dollar per year American taxpayer
gift that goes to support Israel.
Again, Orthodox rabbis admit that Israel, “never really was a Jewish state”; and
the Ultra-Orthodox Neturey Karta rabbis call Israel “the enemy of the Jews.”
American taxpayers sending $3 billion dollars per year to support a political
entity that “never really was a Jewish state” makes about as much sense as Jews
amputating whole foreskins after God told them to leave most of the foreskin on
the penis...
I am sorry that Mr. Probe believes I am a “Jew-Hater.” I don’t think I am. I
have given my reasons here and in my "religious" note in my post "Dr. Poland
suing Gastaldo"...
http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@25384@misc%2ekids%2...
Todd D. Gastaldo, D.C.
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IMPORTANT NOTE: I am not currently practicing chiropractic - except
insofar as the practice of chiropractic includes freedom of speech.
While in Oregon doing library research I have voluntarily forfeited my
California chiropractic license so as not to have to pay the annual
licensing fee. (Under California law, any licensed D.C. may voluntarily
forfeit his/her license, and may, at any time, reactivate said license
by providing the Board of Examiners with "twice the annual amount of
the renewal fee...[He or she]...shall not be required to submit to an
examination for the reissuance of the certificate." [Section 12, Act
Regulating the Practice of Chiropractic...Issued by the Board of
Chiropractic Examiners...Act Includes Amendments Through October 1993]
"Yes, I sold [Gastaldo] a modem. That was one of the biggest mistakes
of my entire life and I regret it more than any other error of my life."
Howard Leighty, D.C.