Vent about Baby Photographers!
Jackie M.
Well, I FINALLY agreed to have one come for Conor's pic (one-year) a couple
of weeks ago after rescheduling it umpteen times because of either illnesses
in the house or nice gashes from his fingernails right across his face...
Well, anyhow, the guy calls me last night and says that he'll be in the
neighborhood today and would it possible for me to be home between 2:30-3:30
p.m. for me to view the prints and get my free 5 x 7 picture.
I say yes, figuring it's Conor's nap time, so why not.
Well, the guy shows up 10 minutes early (a RARE occasion!) and I'm just
finishing up cleaning lunch from my three kids plus two extras... well,
three extras (my mom came over for lunch too!)
Well, this guy starts off by showing me all the pictures that were taken --
adorable I must add <G> but then starts off on this tangent that I MUST
choose a package today, right here and right now, or just be satisfied with
my free 5 x 7 picture. WHAT?????
I'm going to sign off on the first professional pictures I've had taken of
my son and just write a check or charge off nearly $250 for pictures Martin
hasn't seen yet????? Umm..... I DON'T THINK SO!!!!
He went on with other payment options (which at this point were just
annoying me) on how he could post-date a charge on my VISA so it would be
clear when they went to do this.
So... I asked him if he were married or if he had children... His
answer.... NO!! LOL
He made another comment about all the other portraits of the other kids all
over my walls and how when those were taken we FOUND a way to afford
them.... ARGH!!!!!! If I didn't have guests and other kids over at the
time, I would have physically tossed this creep out the door myself!
I simply told him that I chose "this" picture and that it was time for him
to leave and that I would be contacting his company....
Was I a complete b**** or do you think I had a right to be offended by this
moron?
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
Jackie M.
when I wrote that out! I did feel better after I wrote it <G> though!
There's a Wal-Mart near us.... for $6-7 you say? That sounds like a deal to
me! I was thinking I had a bargain with a sitting for the baby at $12.95
with Sears! I'll call them tomorrow to see if they have a photographer on
site there!
Thanks for the tip! :o)
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"just me" <thede...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jackie M." <wizkids_...@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:ucva5.911$K04.5...@typhoon.snet.net...
> My heavens! He is an idiot to try to hard sell you instead of letting you
> consult with hubby!!!! I will bet that his sales are not as good as they
> should be! I don't blame you in the least for being upset with him. I
> would have told him to take a long walk off a short pier and just kept the
> free one. Then, off to Wal Mart for their $6. deal [seriously, excellent
> deal]. I hope that you do really like you pics, but, gee, what an idiot!
>
> -Aula
>
>
just me
Annemarie
I might have been rude even in front of visitors. Hard sales tactics like
that really get up my nose. I think you were very fair.
Annemarie
Jackie M.
I was going to call their offices today until I realized that it would be a
long-distance call for me.... I am not going to rack up my phone bill on
these people..... I think I'll just send a "nice" <vbeg> letter to them and
put a copy to the Better Business Bureau instead!
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"Annemarie" <annemari...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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Jude
photographers?
> Well, I FINALLY agreed to have one come for Conor's pic (one-year) a
couple
> of weeks ago after rescheduling it umpteen times because of either
illnesses
> in the house or nice gashes from his fingernails right across his
face...
> He made another comment about all the other portraits of the other
kids all
> over my walls and how when those were taken we FOUND a way to afford
> them.... ARGH!!!!!! If I didn't have guests and other kids over at
the
> time, I would have physically tossed this creep out the door myself!
> I simply told him that I chose "this" picture and that it was time
for him
> to leave and that I would be contacting his company....
> Was I a complete b**** or do you think I had a right to be offended
by this
> moron?
> Jackie M.
> P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
> ... and #4 due December 17, 2000
> Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
BRAVO! You reacted exactly as you should have, IMHO. I rather
expect he thinks young mothers are vulnerable & gullible & that is
what he plans on to build his bank account. He won't last long with
those tactics. You could even call the better business bureau with a
complaint.
I did have a very nice young photographer come to our home 30 years
ago when he was starting to build his customer base. After his
business grew, he stopped doing the house call photo shoots. I missed
that as he was a lovely young father whose wife worked with him. We
had them do our #2 daughter's wedding though we always did the
Penny's, K-Mart, & Sear's pictures on the days they advertised they
would be set up & in which store. They were always well done &
"cheap" enough that if they turned out bad I didn't feel bad.
Judy
Jackie M.
this new baby is going straight to Sears, etc., and bypassing the "free" at
home portrait studios all together.
I've drafted a letter to the BBB in regard to this shifty operation (also
because I wasn't about to blow even a nickel making a long distance call to
Long Island to their home offices)! I'm sending the letter to them in the
form of a complaint and copying to the BBB.
Hopefully, that should open some eyes to what awful tactics are being used
to strong-arm some mom's into poverty through guilt!
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
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hamilton
<wizkids_...@snet.net> wrote:
> Thanks, Judy! I think now that I've earned my stripes as a "seasoned" mom,
> this new baby is going straight to Sears, etc., and bypassing the "free" at
> home portrait studios all together.
> I've drafted a letter to the BBB in regard to this shifty operation (also
> because I wasn't about to blow even a nickel making a long distance call to
> Long Island to their home offices)! I'm sending the letter to them in the
> form of a complaint and copying to the BBB.
> Hopefully, that should open some eyes to what awful tactics are being used
> to strong-arm some mom's into poverty through guilt!
some gratuitous advice. Get a decent 35 mm automatic camera with a bit of
a telfoto lense -- then take lots of snapshots. You will have lots of
pictures that you can blow up that will really capture the character of
your child far better than those boring, fako studio pictures. Even if
you aren't very good -- if you take lots of snapshots, a few will be
wonderful. Today they can be cropped and blown up on copier type machines
so it is easier than every to transform snapshots into 8 by 10
masterpieces. [a little bit of telefoto allows you to take pictures from
a distance so the child is not aware of or distracted by the event -- kids
staring like cows into snapshots are just as static as staring at the
Sears photographer's camera.]
I have a picture of my son at 11 mos in his backpack reaching over Dad's
shoulder to feel a pine cone -- that is so much more him and his curiosity
and charm than the one or two studio shots -- that are in a drawer
somewhere. I have a picture of my daughter at 15 months intently
ballancing a clumb of sand on her toe at the beach --- again, it capture
that wonderful baby intensity. And dozens more like them -- the problem
is picking out the ones to showcase.
For family shots -- the picture of me with my son at about a year on one
of those swinging horses at the park is far better than all of us dressed
up and sitting before the camera.
It is easier than you think -- and even a fairly crummy camera like a
disposable will work -- given the ability to crop and enlarge at any photo
store.
Laurie Fiori
hamilton wrote:
Or if you can afford $250 for a photographers package, invest it in full or
partial payment for a digital camera - you pay more up front but never again have
to buy film or pay for processing. And you can snap away, take as many pictures
as your kids can stand, pick out the ones you like best and dump the rest. I
have used the heck out of mine since I got it. There are many models to chose
from in the $200-400 range. As with anything, the more you pay the more you get.
Laurie
Laurie Fiori
Curlytoons wrote:
> Laurie Fiori wrote:
> >
> > Or if you can afford $250 for a photographers package, invest it in full or
> > partial payment for a digital camera - you pay more up front but never again have
> > to buy film or pay for processing. And you can snap away, take as many pictures
> > as your kids can stand, pick out the ones you like best and dump the rest. I
> > have used the heck out of mine since I got it. There are many models to chose
> > from in the $200-400 range. As with anything, the more you pay the more you get.
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> Just don't count on sending Aunt Bee a frameable 8 X 10.
>
> --
> ºOº Curlytoons
Not with the ones that only have low resolution choices. Email is good, small prints
are good, but you're right, the larger the print the grainier the pic. But you can get
digitals with decent resolution. Like I said, the more you pay the more you get. Mine
is an Olympus 450, and has several resolution settings. So you can take lots of e-mail
type pics or a few really good pics on the disk. It cost about $500 in December.
Laurie
KatNipper1
and most don't require an appointment, but will set up an appt.
if that is how you prefer it. I kind of like the no appt
necessary thing with DD, as her schedule seems to change daily,
and there's just no telling when she'll be too cranky for
pictures, and in need of a nap or a feeding.
The Wal-Mart that we have near us has a great deal for $5.95:
You get a nice package deal of (1) 10x13, (2) 8x10's, (4) 5x7's,
(4) 3-1/2x5's and (32) Wallet sized photos, with no sitting fees
or extra costs unless you wish to order charms or whatnot.
~Nancy~
Mom to Emily~2/14/00 and
Wally~1/13/84
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portraits. I know Sears does things differently now, but they made me angry
with emily's first 6 week pictures, and I refuse to go back. Also Walmart
ticked me off once (sister came from Germany -- had her kids and mine taken
together, the *cough* sweet lady at the camera cut off somebody's head in EVERY
SHOT she took. But kindly offered to re-do the sitting, only problem was that
my sister had already gone home, and they weren't willing to foot the bill for
them to come back to South Dakota from Germany), so I won't return there
either. Doesn't matter HOW good a deal it looks like, after all the effort of
getting everyone ready for portraits, I want to be SURE they'll turn out well.
You say I'm a Bitch like it's a bad thing ...
Krystal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A careless word may kindle strife; a cruel word may wreck a life; a timely word
may level stress; a loving word may heal and bless.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eat the "treat" in my address to e-mail me.
just me
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Actually there is now a group called Ofoto [search on www. for it] where you
can post 100 pics and get them printed on excellent film quality paper, get
blow ups that are great, etc. Our digital is worth it's weight in gold.
With the way we were going through rolls of film [and sending of to Seattle
Film Works] I am sure I was supporting someone quite nicely. And, since I
am my Dad's daughter, I take several shots of essentially the same thing,
trying to get the really good shot. With the digital, you save what you
want, delete the rest.
One big word of advice for those of you who missed my thread last Sept. when
our hard drive crashed: store your photos somewhere *other* than your hard
drive. We bought a cd stamper just for this purpose. You will feel
absolutely horrible if you loose those years of photos when your drive
crashes and cannot be resurrected.
-Aula
Jackie M.
I used to shoot and develop my own black and whites when I was single and
living at home (had room for a dark room then! <G>).....
But you're right!
I still have a pretty good Pentax K-1000 camera (must be almost 20 years old
by now) and I've been meaning to get a zoom for it, replace the tripod I
loaned out to God-knows-who ages ago.....
I'll go and price out the zoom this weekend and update everybody as to my
new venture <G>!
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
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Jackie M.
my anniversary is in November (which is when my hubby wants to do it), I
told him it would make a better birthday present. This will be our 10 year
this year and I want JEWELRY! :o)
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"Laurie Fiori" <patm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jackie M.
don't know how many times I've had to cancel things because naps changed,
somebody was ill, etc.
There's one near my hubby's office, so I'll check it out this week!
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"KatNipper1" <nlbader6...@usa.net.invalid> wrote in message
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hamilton
curly...@anon.nymserver.com wrote:
> just me wrote:
> >
> > Actually there is now a group called Ofoto [search on www. for it] where you
> > can post 100 pics and get them printed on excellent film quality paper, get
> > blow ups that are great, etc. Our digital is worth it's weight in gold.
> > With the way we were going through rolls of film [and sending of to Seattle
> > Film Works] I am sure I was supporting someone quite nicely. And, since I
> > am my Dad's daughter, I take several shots of essentially the same thing,
> > trying to get the really good shot. With the digital, you save what you
> > want, delete the rest.
> >
> > One big word of advice for those of you who missed my thread last Sept. when
> > our hard drive crashed: store your photos somewhere *other* than your hard
> > drive. We bought a cd stamper just for this purpose. You will feel
> > absolutely horrible if you loose those years of photos when your drive
> > crashes and cannot be resurrected.
> >
>
> Just don't expect to get the quality of prints that you get
> with the 35 mm format. And don't expect the prints to last
> as long with the current ink printers. Oh, and forget about
> quality 8 x 10 prints, unless you have a $5000 digital
> camera. But they do look good on a computer screen.
good point -- while color prints don't last forever -- as black and white
almost do -- anything computerized is like dust in the wind.
Kendra
>I use JC Pennys and have always been thrilled with the outcome of the
>portraits. I know Sears does things differently now, but they made me angry
>with emily's first 6 week pictures, and I refuse to go back. Also Walmart
>ticked me off once (sister came from Germany -- had her kids and mine taken
>together, the *cough* sweet lady at the camera cut off somebody's head in
>EVERY
>SHOT she took. But kindly offered to re-do the sitting, only problem was
>that
>my sister had already gone home, and they weren't willing to foot the bill
>for
>them to come back to South Dakota from Germany), so I won't return there
>either. Doesn't matter HOW good a deal it looks like, after all the effort
>of
>getting everyone ready for portraits, I want to be SURE they'll turn out
>well.
We have a tiff with Sears. The photos always come out good but we when we were
visiting my brother and his wife we took the kids to have theirs taken
together. Since we were a walk in they made us wait for 5 HOURS. I was so mad.
The kids were being so good and it wasn't like the visit was long enough to
waste a whole day on this, we just wanted the kids together. I got to the point
where I told the woman behind the counter that we WERE going to be next and NOW
there was NO WAY we were going to buy more than one pose.
We were next.
One thing I did hear about Walmart though is that the photographers rarely are
hired for their experience.
Kendra
~*~*~*~
Fight like a real man! Get on your knees and pray!
< ><
Kendra
> I think I'll just send a "nice" <vbeg> letter to them and
>put a copy to the Better Business Bureau instead!
Lol, at the bottom of the letter to them, make sure they know where the other
copy is going! You might just have another photographer at your door with a
free package offer.
Kendra
>some gratuitous advice. Get a decent 35 mm automatic camera with a bit of
>a telfoto lense -- then take lots of snapshots. You will have lots of
>pictures that you can blow up that will really capture the character of
>your child far better than those boring, fako studio pictures. Even if
>you aren't very good -- if you take lots of snapshots, a few will be
>wonderful. Today they can be cropped and blown up on copier type machines
>so it is easier than every to transform snapshots into 8 by 10
>masterpieces. [a little bit of telefoto allows you to take pictures from
>a distance so the child is not aware of or distracted by the event -- kids
>staring like cows into snapshots are just as static as staring at the
>Sears photographer's camera.]
I do this a lot. We still do the kids milestones but I've got a dress for
Kaitlyn that I didn't want to take her in to any studio. It's delicate and big
and looks like a miniature wedding dress. I've got a spot in my yard with a
very low rock wall (2 rocks high) with a flat rock step that will be perfect
for it. Nothing but pine in the background. With my son in his suit it should
be perfect.
The problem with doing this is you end up with tons of photos! I have frames
on almost every available surface. Wish I had more time to scrapbook.
Jkknfollett
Sorry for the lousy experience with your pics -- We just had our kids' taken AT
the studio though and although they were over 500.00 they are well worth it!
I've goen the Wal-mart route and to be honest, you get what you pay for! I
found them to be horrible and from now on we are going professional :)
Kari
mommy to Kaylie (4) and Noah (15 mos)
Cindy Kee
photographers that came to your house also. Even though it was not
a "great" experience (he came like 1-1/2 hours late and then was pushy
with the purchasing of pictures), looking back, I would have never been
able to get portraits done any other way that early on. Robert was a
coliky baby, they weren't on a fixed schedule, and I never knew when
one would be asleep and the other awake. So I was paranoid about
having to pick a time of day that would be good for both of them and
make an appointment at Sears! (My sister had a great experience there
and that's where I wanted to go.) And my dh at the time, wasn't big on
professional photos because they are traditionally so costly. So I
felt timid about asking him to come along to help, and knew I would
have a difficult time handling a photo session with both of them by
myself!
So even though the photographer was late, it was a good thing on one
hand - Robert started a colic spell when he was SUPPOSED to show up and
he was over it by the time he DID show up! Though Michael looks a
little drowsy in the photos because he did just wake up. I also did
not like the sales tactics, but I am glad I have their pictures at 10-
1/2 weeks.
By the time they were 9 months, I convinced my dh to give me a hand, we
went to Sears, and were both VERY pleased! It was a great experience,
and we didn't feel like we had to pay through the roof for our prints
(we had their famous coupons, of course!) We liked the experience so
much that we bought the SmileSavers plan ($25, and unlimited sittings
for 2 years.) In 2 sittings, it pays for itself. It is highly
recommended to make an appointment, and I have found that the earlier
in the morning, the more "on-time" they are. But we will keep going
there for quality and price. (We love the instant feedback using the
video camera to show us if a shot is good or not. It insures that we
get 6 good shots to choose from, instead of 6 maybes that you can't see
until the proofs come back.)
--
Cindy, Twins Mommy to Robert and Michael, 6/28/98
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Before you buy.
hamilton
"just me" <thede...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "hamilton" <hami...@dnvln.com> wrote in message
> news:hamilton-120...@host-209-214-114-130.bna.bellsouth.net...
> But, the digital back up lasts forever and can be reprinted as often as you
> like. No negatives to archive and loose!
I've gone through ten computers in the past 15 or so years and none of my
disks and files form the early years are worth diddly today. computer
data from early NASA missions is now worthless junk etc etc Save some
important letter e.g. from Grandaddy to infant granddaughter or whatever
on a floppy and it will be nothing but a coaster by the time granddaughter
grows up. Computer storage is
dust in the wind.
just me
RICECRISPI
Hey! We have a tripod just like that one!
Jackie M.
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
> Lol, at the bottom of the letter to them, make sure they know where the
other
> copy is going! You might just have another photographer at your door
with a
> free package offer.
>
>
Jackie M.
I "used" to have a really great zoom but loaned it out to a brother of mine
and it accidentally got broken (well, it ended up dropping off a table that
unfortunately wasn't stable and the table went down, as did the zoom and
shattered the lenses! :o( I was SO mad at the time, but as I have my own
kids now, stuff happens!)
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
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Barchet
<wizkids_...@snet.net> writes:
>I still have a pretty good Pentax K-1000 camera (must be almost 20 years old
>by now) and I've been meaning to get a zoom for it, replace the tripod I
>loaned out to God-knows-who ages ago.....
>I'll go and price out the zoom this weekend and update everybody as to my
>new venture <G>!
>
>--
>Jackie M.
Can't beat those old Pentax K-1000. Most new cameras are made of plastic and
have computer chips in them. When the cameras get banged around or the chips
fail, it costs more than the camera is worth to repair it. I also have a
K-1000 that has been camping, hiking, and backpacking with me for over 20 years
and the only thing wrong is the hot shoe for the flash doesn't work.
However, be careful about getting a zoom--I don't know if anybody out there
makes a bayonet mount like that anymore! <G> If you find one, would you let
me know the brand? I'm looking for a zoom that goes from 28 or 35mm to about
80 or 100mm, since I already have the telephoto.
Happy shooting!
Denise
...ah, the smell of fixer and developer (cough, cough)...
To e-mail me directly, remember an object at rest tends to stay at rest...
Barchet
print out and save on pictures in their Portrait Studio section. Or check the
coupons in the Sunday papers or in the coupon mailings that seem to come out
about once a week.
You might want to check KMart and Wal-Mart's websites and see if they offer
coupons, too.
Denise
In article <%5Ha5.986$K04.5...@typhoon.snet.net>, "Jackie M."
<wizkids_...@snet.net> writes:
>Thanks, Judy! I think now that I've earned my stripes as a "seasoned" mom,
>this new baby is going straight to Sears, etc., and bypassing the "free" at
>home portrait studios all together.
>I've drafted a letter to the BBB in regard to this shifty operation (also
>because I wasn't about to blow even a nickel making a long distance call to
>Long Island to their home offices)! I'm sending the letter to them in the
>form of a complaint and copying to the BBB.
>Hopefully, that should open some eyes to what awful tactics are being used
>to strong-arm some mom's into poverty through guilt!
>
>--
>Jackie M.
>P&PSAHM to three wond
sue
that we had the photographers in, he was very good, but felt
pushed when it came to purchasing pictures. After that time, I
relied on myself and have become quite good at it; now I am
asked to photograph other people's kids, not that I have the
time. We now have a 7 month old girl and I love to take
pictures of her. I think, as the parent, you can get some
really good shots and responses. Some hints I may share is to
get down on the ground on your tummy if they are doing something
at floor level that you want to photograph. Also, I used a big
white sheet, draped it over the couch and onto the floor, place
some blue silk hydrangeas around and my naked Holly on the
floor. They look like Anne Geddes pictures. I also take B&W on
occassion. There is something about a B&W infant picture that
is just so attention getting. My family wall downstairs is all
gold frames of different textures, sizes and shapes filled with
candid photos that I have taken and blown up or down-sized to
fit the frames. They always get such wonderful comments that it
isn't like looking at kids that are posed and it's not too
formal. I find I get the most wonderful expressions and I can
wait to get the right smile or look, as I'm not on anyone else's
time. I do have an automatic telephoto which works really well
and fast with kids. My only need is a much better flash.
Anyway, I agree with how you handled the situation and your
frustrations. I think these people sometimes think (and know)
they have you a bit over a barrel when it comes to your kids.
Jackie M.
making room for it in the budget <S>! They've gotten SO expensive in the
past 10 years!
Oh, memories of the developer smell..... <gag>.... being pregnant right now
doesn't help the ol' factory senses! LOL
--
Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"Barchet" <bar...@aol.commotion> wrote in message
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> In article <ir%a5.1110$K04.6...@typhoon.snet.net>, "Jackie M."
Jackie M.
got LOADS of them around in full bloom right now (I have some weird ones...
I didn't think they were supposed to bloom for another month or so!
LOL).....
I think I'm going to be my own photographer too! Although, I think I will
still have a family photo done at Sears, etc., to add to the collection!
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Jackie M.
P&PSAHM to three wonderful kids: 8, 7, & 14 months...
... and #4 due December 17, 2000
Everything is funny, as long as it's happening to someone else.
"sue" <i-s.livel...@sympatico.ca.invalid> wrote in message
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My husbands supervisor helped a friend video-tape our wedding ... he stood
behind the alter and got the facial shots ... anyhoo ... he used DH's tripod,
and we never saw it again. We're military, so we've both moved on since then
... sure it's gone for good.