Each one of us knows a section of the past through which he or she
already lived. But only to extremely rare people is granted the honour
to see a section of the distant future. I am one amongst these
immensely rare people. The extraordinary aspect of my visit in the
future is that I am a scientist who researches the work of time. So I
could NOT only watch, but also understand. Below I am going to
describe how it happened and what I saw in the distant future.

On my 63rd birthday in 2009 I received an extraordinary gift from some
mysterious power. Namely, in a post-birthday night I was flown from
New Zealand to visit Wszewilki-Stawczyk of the distant future (i.e. to
visit the village in which I was born). So with my own eyes I could
see the part of projects for Wszewilki-Stawczyk described on the web
page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm", that actually is to be implemented in
the real life. I must admit here that I was disappointed partially -
as only a few amongst numerous projects and ideas that were described
on the web page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" (addresses of which are
indicated near the end of this post), are really going to be
implemented in the future. So, as usual, NOT in everything the reality
turns out to follow my wishes. For example, these ugly holes in the
ground in the place of former central square of Wszewilki, will never
be removed, while the central square will never be rebuild. My Guide
through the future told me that the removal of these large holes will
be considered to be uneconomical, while the rebuilding of the central
square in this place will be considered to be unjustified because of
the future location and function of the centre of human settlement in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk. Therefore these holes in the ground will be only
beautified and utilised through planting a masking forest-park inside
of them. Similarly, the old church in Wszewilki will never be rebuild.
My Guide told me that if someone wishes to visit a church in times of
good public transport of the future, then it turns out to be more
rational to go to a church in Milicz. Fortunately, several other out
of my projects described on the web page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" will
actually be implemented in the future. I am going to describe them in
next parts of this post. But before I begin their presentation,
firstly a few words of information about my post-birthday visit in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk of the distant future.

From my research on the travelling through time (described, amongst
others, on the totaliztic web page "immortality.htm"), it is known
that shifting our body to the distant future is technically possible.
This is because it is possible to build so-called "time
vehicles" (described on the web page "timevehicle.htm").
Simultaneously, from my research on the nature and attributes of human
souls (described, amongst others, on the totaliztic web page
"soul_proof.htm"), it is known to me that the human soul have many
supernatural capabilities which, amongst others, include also the
ability to shift us into the distant future or distant past. So,
although I am NOT able to determine which one amongst these two
different ways of shifting me into a distant future was granted as my
birthday present of 2009, I am sure that I visited my native village
Wszewilki-Stawczyk in a distant future. Thus, with my own eyes I saw
how this village is going to look-like then.

My trip into the future was carried out during a New Zealand night (in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk was then a beautiful, lukewarm, sunny, summer day).
I was fully aware that I was taken for a visit into the future. Only
that I was NOT informed to what exactly year or time. This trip was
very mysterious and ambiguous. Technically we could consider it to be
a "night dream". But I noticed a whole array of attributes in it,
which all contradicted that it was just a "dream". For example, dreams
always take place "now" or "in past". In turn I was fully aware that I
am being taken to a distant future in which physically I am NOT going
to live. In a normal dream we always find ourselves directly in the
"place" where events are to happen. On the other hand, during my visit
in Wszewilki of the future I needed firstly to fly from New Zealand,
initially through a sea (water) and then through a land, sitting in a
very strange and extremely fast vehicle. A typical dream finishes with
waking up and we tend to forget it fast.
But my visit in Wszewilki of the future finished with a return flight
to New Zealand after which I still slept for a long time - while I had
no further dreams. Also this trip etched in my memory forever. In
fact, it was felt like a real event. For example, during the visit to
my native village described here, I felt burning of sun, flow of wind,
and even smell of water - in normal dreams nothing like this is felt.
I also saw things which later after my analysis turned out to be very
logical, but which I would never invent nor plan myself in just such a
form (e.g. the construction of another deep pond-lake that was
accumulating water at the doorstep of the village, or the development
of human settlement inside the forest). I also clearly heard talks and
words of people - although none of people by which we walked took any
notice of our presence - as if we were invisible for others.
Furthermore, in this trip to the future I was accompanied by a
"Guide". I do NOT know who he was nor how he looked-like, because all
the time he kept exactly behind me and only commented verbally
everything that I was watching with attentiveness. But I know that he
had a male voice, very pleasant in sound, and that I had an impression
that he is very close to me and I know him quite well - as if he was a
member of my family. I do NOT know how far into the future we went.
But from the diameters of trees which did NOT exist in my times, and
also from the architecture, clothing, and from a different accent and
wording of talks that I heard, I suspect that it was rather a lot of
years into the future, at least 50, but perhaps even around 250 years
into the future.

After a flight into the future firstly I found myself on this old road
(in my times - very dusty) that leads through the behind-railway part
of Wszewilki-Stawczyk, not far from houses which in my times were
inhabited by families of our neighbours, Dajczman and Krzy¿osiak.
Actually, all my visit into the future limited itself to the walk
along this road straight like a bullet. In the future this particular
road turned out to be like a kind of city street - i.e. with a
beautiful footpath on both sides, and with the flat like a table, tar-
sealed surface of the road. Immediately I was astonished by a number
of large, healthy trees of various species (non-fruiting) which grew
in every space not occupied by buildings or by roads, at distances of
around twenty meters from each other. In my times there were NO such
trees in there, while in order to grow to the thickness that I saw
they needed to be at least 50 to 100 years old. This in turn meant
that I visited the future which was distant by at least 50 years from
my times. There was a bus stop in the spot to which we arrived, for a
circular-line city bus that was just awaited by a group of loud
talking and laughing teenagers. The accent of their Polish language
was a different from the one that I remember, also their sentences
were very short - typically consisted only around 3 or 4 words. In
turn, there was a lot of new words - the meaning of which was unknown
to me. A thought flashed through my mind that SMSes from my times
clearly changed the language of Poles from the future. Far on this
straight road, in the area of burned forester's cottage from before
the World War Two (WW2), I saw a red-colour bus arriving. My Guide
told me that it arrives from Milicz, only that it drives here around
the entire settlement. When the bus stopped by the bus-stop at which
we stood with the Guide, the majority of awaiting teenagers entered it
and climbed at the upper deck, waving for goodbye and yelling jokes to
several local boys and girls which remained on the footpath. The bus
departed, while my Guide told me that this is just this particular
circular-line bus to Milicz, the establishing of which I proposed. The
propulsion of this bus was silent, so I deduced that it must be
electric. But the bus had normal wheels and normal tires, also it did
NOT hovered in the air - as it is typically shown in futuristic films.
Not far from the bus-stop by which we stood, the new tar-sealed road
turned towards S³awoszewice, to which the bus clearly drove before it
later arrived to Milicz. The bus itself was a strange design - I never
saw such a bus in Poland. It had two decks - like buses in London. But
only the lower deck had a roof - while the upper deck had sits opened
to the fresh air, while passengers were kept inside of a deck-platform
by a kind of railing extending to the height of human waist. It was
from this upper deck that the departing teenagers waved hands and
yelled goodbye messages to their local senders off. The bus was a bit
similar to Berliet from Jelcz - which I remember from my own times,
only that it had this additional second deck.

When looking at the departing bus I noticed that this ugly hole in the
ground on the other side of railway still does exist in there - only
that it is rarely overgrown with old, thick trees. It looked to me
like a small park. Between trees I saw park sits, and also something
like a monument.

I started to walk along this tar-sealed, straight, and flat like a
table road through the village. My Guide walked behind me. On both
sides of the road stood beautiful homes made of glass-like materials.
These homes were a different design than ones which I remember. For
example, they had NO separate windows, while their entire side walls
were made of like a transparent but "smoky" glass or plastic - similar
to the "smoky" glass that in present times is used in windows of
expensive ...

read more »

news:c3b3b0c4-1172-490a-b606-7b97fdc6eeb6@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
Each <SNIP>

Hello crackpot.

So are you going to buy some of that forest land as a long-term investment
for your grandkids?

news:c3b3b0c4-1172-490a-b606-7b97fdc6eeb6@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
Each one of us knows a section of the past through which he or she
already lived. But only to extremely rare people is granted the honour
to see a section of the distant future. I am one amongst these
immensely rare people. The extraordinary aspect of my visit in the
future is that I am a scientist who researches the work of time. So I
could NOT only watch, but also understand. Below I am going to
describe how it happened and what I saw in the distant future.

On my 63rd birthday in 2009 I received an extraordinary gift from some
mysterious power. Namely, in a post-birthday night I was flown from
New Zealand to visit Wszewilki-Stawczyk of the distant future (i.e. to
visit the village in which I was born). So with my own eyes I could
see the part of projects for Wszewilki-Stawczyk described on the web
page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm", that actually is to be implemented in
the real life. I must admit here that I was disappointed partially -
as only a few amongst numerous projects and ideas that were described
on the web page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" (addresses of which are
indicated near the end of this post), are really going to be
implemented in the future. So, as usual, NOT in everything the reality
turns out to follow my wishes. For example, these ugly holes in the
ground in the place of former central square of Wszewilki, will never
be removed, while the central square will never be rebuild. My Guide
through the future told me that the removal of these large holes will
be considered to be uneconomical, while the rebuilding of the central
square in this place will be considered to be unjustified because of
the future location and function of the centre of human settlement in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk. Therefore these holes in the ground will be only
beautified and utilised through planting a masking forest-park inside
of them. Similarly, the old church in Wszewilki will never be rebuild.
My Guide told me that if someone wishes to visit a church in times of
good public transport of the future, then it turns out to be more
rational to go to a church in Milicz. Fortunately, several other out
of my projects described on the web page "wszewilki_jutra_uk.htm" will
actually be implemented in the future. I am going to describe them in
next parts of this post. But before I begin their presentation,
firstly a few words of information about my post-birthday visit in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk of the distant future.

From my research on the travelling through time (described, amongst
others, on the totaliztic web page "immortality.htm"), it is known
that shifting our body to the distant future is technically possible.
This is because it is possible to build so-called "time
vehicles" (described on the web page "timevehicle.htm").
Simultaneously, from my research on the nature and attributes of human
souls (described, amongst others, on the totaliztic web page
"soul_proof.htm"), it is known to me that the human soul have many
supernatural capabilities which, amongst others, include also the
ability to shift us into the distant future or distant past. So,
although I am NOT able to determine which one amongst these two
different ways of shifting me into a distant future was granted as my
birthday present of 2009, I am sure that I visited my native village
Wszewilki-Stawczyk in a distant future. Thus, with my own eyes I saw
how this village is going to look-like then.

My trip into the future was carried out during a New Zealand night (in
Wszewilki-Stawczyk was then a beautiful, lukewarm, sunny, summer day).
I was fully aware that I was taken for a visit into the future. Only
that I was NOT informed to what exactly year or time. This trip was
very mysterious and ambiguous. Technically we could consider it to be
a "night dream". But I noticed a whole array of attributes in it,
which all contradicted that it was just a "dream". For example, dreams
always take place "now" or "in past". In turn I was fully aware that I
am being taken to a distant future in which physically I am NOT going
to live. In a normal dream we always find ourselves directly in the
"place" where events are to happen. On the other hand, during my visit
in Wszewilki of the future I needed firstly to fly from New Zealand,
initially through a sea (water) and then through a land, sitting in a
very strange and extremely fast vehicle. A typical dream finishes with
waking up and we tend to forget it fast.
But my visit in Wszewilki of the future finished with a return flight
to New Zealand after which I still slept for a long time - while I had
no further dreams. Also this trip etched in my memory forever. In
fact, it was felt like a real event. For example, during the visit to
my native village described here, I felt burning of sun, flow of wind,
and even smell of water - in normal dreams nothing like this is felt.
I also saw things which later after my analysis turned out to be very
logical, but which I would never invent nor plan myself in just such a
form (e.g. the construction of another deep pond-lake that was
accumulating water at the doorstep of the village, or the development
of human settlement inside the forest). I also clearly heard talks and
words of people - although none of people by which we walked took any
notice of our presence - as if we were invisible for others.
Furthermore, in this trip to the future I was accompanied by a
"Guide". I do NOT know who he was nor how he looked-like, because all
the time he kept exactly behind me and only commented verbally
everything that I was watching with attentiveness. But I know that he
had a male voice, very pleasant in sound, and that I had an impression
that he is very close to me and I know him quite well - as if he was a
member of my family. I do NOT know how far into the future we went.
But from the diameters of trees which did NOT exist in my times, and
also from the architecture, clothing, and from a different accent and
wording of talks that I heard, I suspect that it was rather a lot of
years into the future, at least 50, but perhaps even around 250 years
into the future.

After a flight into the future firstly I found myself on this old road
(in my times - very dusty) that leads through the behind-railway part
of Wszewilki-Stawczyk, not far from houses which in my times were
inhabited by families of our neighbours, Dajczman and Krzy�osiak.
Actually, all my visit into the future limited itself to the walk
along this road straight like a bullet. In the future this particular
road turned out to be like a kind of city street - i.e. with a
beautiful footpath on both sides, and with the flat like a table, tar-
sealed surface of the road. Immediately I was astonished by a number
of large, healthy trees of various species (non-fruiting) which grew
in every space not occupied by buildings or by roads, at distances of
around twenty meters from each other. In my times there were NO such
trees in there, while in order to grow to the thickness that I saw
they needed to be at least 50 to 100 years old. This in turn meant
that I visited the future which was distant by at least 50 years from
my times. There was a bus stop in the spot to which we arrived, for a
circular-line city bus that was just awaited by a group of loud
talking and laughing teenagers. The accent of their Polish language
was a different from the one that I remember, also their sentences
were very short - typically consisted only around 3 or 4 words. In
turn, there was a lot of new words - the meaning of which was unknown
to me. A thought flashed through my mind that SMSes from my times
clearly changed the language of Poles from the future. Far on this
straight road, in the area of burned forester's cottage from before
the World War Two (WW2), I saw a red-colour bus arriving. My Guide
told me that it arrives from Milicz, only that it drives here around
the entire settlement. When the bus stopped by the bus-stop at which
we stood with the Guide, the majority of awaiting teenagers entered it
and climbed at the upper deck, waving for goodbye and yelling jokes to
several local boys and girls which remained on the footpath. The bus
departed, while my Guide told me that this is just this particular
circular-line bus to Milicz, the establishing of which I proposed. The
propulsion of this bus was silent, so I deduced that it must be
electric. But the bus had normal wheels and normal tires, also it did
NOT hovered in the air - as it is typically shown in futuristic films.
Not far from the bus-stop by which we stood, the new tar-sealed road
turned towards S�awoszewice, to which the bus clearly drove before it
later arrived to Milicz. The bus itself was a strange design - I never
saw such a bus in Poland. It had two decks - like buses in London. But
only the lower deck had a roof - while the upper deck had sits opened
to the fresh air, while passengers were kept inside of a deck-platform
by a kind of railing extending to the height of human waist. It was
from this upper deck that the departing teenagers waved hands and
yelled goodbye messages to their local senders off. The bus was a bit
similar to Berliet from Jelcz - which I remember from my own times,
only that it had this additional second deck.

When looking at the departing bus I noticed that this ugly hole in the
ground on the other side of railway still does exist in there - only
that it is rarely overgrown with old, thick trees. It looked to me
like a small park. Between trees I saw park sits, and also something
like a monument.

I started to walk along this tar-sealed, straight, and flat like a
table road through the village. My Guide walked behind me. On both
sides of the road stood beautiful homes made of glass-like materials.
These homes were a different design than ones which I remember. For ...

read more »

On Jun 8, 8:18 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote:

How can you be sure that you were not just dreaming this, not really
experiencing it?

------------------------------

Dr. Know & the Braino Helmet

Imagime that a superscientist invents machine--we shall call it a
"braino," - that enables him to produce hallucianations in certain
subjects . The machine operates by influencing the brain of a subject
who wears a special cap, called a "braino cap." when the braino cap is
placed on a subject's head, the operator of the braino can affect his
brain so as to produce any hallucination in the subject that the
operator wishes. The braino is a hallucination-producing machine. The
hallucinations produced by it may be as incomplete, systematic, and
coherent as the operator of the branio desires to make them.

The present argument starts from the premise that the braino is a
logical possibility, and consequently that there should be
hallucinations that are coherent, complete, and systematic in every
way. From the premise of logical possibility, we conclude that we in
fact have no way of telling whether or not we are hallucinating.

If the braino is a logical possibility, then how can we tell that
hallucinations are not in fact so hard to detect? On the contrary, we
may suffer hallucinations that we cannot detect. If it is logically
possible that hallucinations should be coherent, complete, and
systematic in every way, then there is no way of detecting at any
moment that we are not suffering from a hallucionation.

How we can tell that we are not hallucinating. The braino argument is
intended to establish that we can never tell this, even if we can
sometimes tell that we are hallucinating. Consider some perceptual
belief that you would maintain does not from hallucinations. what
experiences guarantee this? Indeed, what experiences provide you with
any evidence of it?

Notice that whatever experience you indicate, the braino argument will
be quite sufficient to prove that such an experience is no guarantee
against hallucianation. All we need do is imagine that you have,
unknown to yourself, the braino cap on your head. the operator of the
braino is producing the very experiences you claim guarantee that you
are not hallucinating.

Imagine that all people are controlled by the braino and that the
machine is run by some evil being, Dr. Know, who plots to keep us
completely in error through hallucinations. Dr. Know does not wish to
be detected, so he supplies hallucinations that are coherent,
complete, and systematic. Indeed, the hallucinations he produced in us
are a PERFECT COUNTERFEIT OF REALITY.

Our experiences fulfill our expectations and contain no more surprises
than we would expect from reality. But is it not reality we
experience; our perceptual beliefs about the world are quite mistaken,
for the source of our experiences is a mere machine, the braino, which
creates hallutionations. In such a predicament we might have just the
sort of perceptual beliefs we now have, based on experiences exactly
similar to those we now have. But our perceptual beliefs would be
altogether false.

The imagined situation is exactly similar to ours with respect to the
reasons or evidence we would have for our perceptual beliefs.
Experience is virtually the same in both cases. Consequently, if we
lack knowledge in one situation, we must surely lack it in the other.
Obviously, we lack knowledge when we are controlled by the braino, for
then our perceptual beliefs are false. Hence, we also lack knowledge
in our present situation. More precisely, our perceptual beliefs fail
to constitute knowledge in either case.

We believe that we are not controlled by such a machine, and if we are
fortunate in this belief, then no doubt many of our perceptual beliefs
are true. It is, however, good fortune and not good evidence that we
should thank for correctness of these beliefs.

We are just lucky if there is no Dr. Know controlling us with a
braino; and from that good fortune may result the further good fortune
that most of our perceptual beliefs are true. it is just a matter of
luck, however, and nothing epistemologically more glorious than that.

If a belief is true as a result of luck, then it is a lucky guess--not
knowledge.

Adapted from Keith Lehrer
Philosophical Problems and Arguments: An Introduction
by James W. Cornman, Keith Lehrer, George Sotiros Pappas
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0872201244/
http://books.google.com/books?id=cRHegYZgyfUC&printsec=frontcover

There is no past.  All is a construct of the Devil.

"'Poenitentiam agite adpropinquavit enim regnum caelorum' omnem vitam
fidelium penitentiam esse voluit." "Non tamen solam intendit
interiorem, immo interior nulla est, nisi foris operetur varias carnis
mortificationes."

God said it, you heard it, that's it.

[snip crap]

delusional idiot

Go ahead, win a state lottery.  We won't mind.

[snip more crap]

http://www.luckymojo.com/crossroads.html
 A CROSSROADS IS THE OFFICE OF SATAN HERSELF!

[snip still more crap]

of course.  idiot

[snip rest of crap]

idiot

440 lines of crap snipped net.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

"Giga" <"Giga" <just(removetheseandaddmatthe end)ho...@yahoo.co> wrote
in message news:-c6dnVWzMsUHc7DXnZ2dnUVZ8kydnZ2d@giganews.com...

Wow... repost the entire crap post next time you quote and respond.

On Jun 9, 6:24 pm, "VMCM1905" <VMCM1...@gmail.com> wrote:

He want's to, but his theory of time which he somehow has been
extraordinarily gifted to receive says that since all events are
"written" since the Big Bang, hard as he tries to use his rare
knowledge to make money he can't do it. He buys the land but then
something happens and it ends up being owned by some guy names
Hister!

I'm glad to see all the Kooks have come out to insure that an
important topic such as the nature of time cannot be rationally
discussed here.

1. Past is fixed. It already happened. You already traveled that
trajectory fixing history. You cannot go back and "change" the past.
Hence theoretically you might "time travel" back and view what
happened, but you can't kill your father etc. That's all nonsense.

2. Present doesn't exist. Since causality is a natural law in the
earth every event is preceded by a cause. The speed of light limits
transmission of information, hence what we call the "present" is
actually slightly lagging the true present.

3. The future is by reason of free will is never fixed. Prophesy is
bullshit. Best you can do is to calculate an estimate of the "most
probable" future. The reason is that while all physics is causal,
causes can also be due to will. "Events set in motion in a straight
line (in time) will tend to keep traveling in that straight line
unless acted upon by will". Hence if everybody coasts the future is
predictable. If people start exercising choices and will, then
prophesy is shit. Happily humans love to coast and to think very
seldom, which makes the future nice and predictable.

I'm sure nobody here is making any choices that will divert any future
happenings...

On Jun 10, 12:38 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
...
Happily humans love to coast and to think very

Actually, when one considers it carefuly, we do NOT have even a shred
of evidence that a single person could ever change the future from
what this future is pre-programmed to be. Even if a person does
something, and then changes it, this really could happen only because
such a change was pre-programmed in his or her "program of life and
fate". The only our chance to check empirically whether the future is
pre-programmed, is to build "time vehicles" - as I described this in
the web page "immortality.htm" (e.g. see http://totalizm.20fr.com/immortality.htm
).

With the totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak

On Jun 9, 11:07 pm, janpa...@gmail.com wrote:

Jeeze. Nice Kook-site, Jan!

But in case you didn't notice and as anyone in alt-health can tell
you, at the cellular level your body is already immortal. There is no
microscopic reason that cellular reproduction should not go on forever
like a tree. Hence nobody needs a "time vehicle", but rather a
"forever shot" to control the macro reasons that the perfect micro
structure gets contaminated over time.

On Jun 10, 6:49 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
...

Well, I leave this manner of visiting the future for you. I personaly
prefer much more reliable way - which is by a "time vehcile". The only
problem is that people with minds like that of yours prevent me from
building a time veicle. But there is a justice in all this - i.e.
since I am forbidden to have a time vehicle, every other person also
is NOT going to have it. After all, as the web page http://prism.20fr.com/immortality.htm
explains it, there is NO many people on the Earth who know how to
develop a time vehicle.

With the totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak

On Jun 10, 10:19 pm, "Prof. dr inz. Jan Pajak" <janpa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

And the way you know this is "much more reliable" is?  You already
admit you are forbidden to have a "time vehicle" so how can you have
any idea of it's reliability.  And then you say it is MY Mind that
keeps you from building your "time machine"? BWAHAHAHahahaha!

Hey asshole. Here's the big hint: Your mind IS the time machine!  And
here's the bad news: You don't have a mind, so you have no equipment,
nothing, with which to travel in time!

idiot.  Nay, worse! Mentally ill person.

"there is NO many people"? You don't get around much do you,
"professor"? I'd suggest if you wish to visit a REAL "time vehicle"
lab, you first take time to learn a language other than your native
dialect so you can communicate with those you'll find there. Then you
might learn something.

With the Total One Fingeristic Salute,
Benj

On Jun 12, 3:07 am, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> wrote:
...
...
Who pays you for spreading such "hate" on a forum which was created
for people to discuss contructively various vital and new subject
areas. Are one of these creatures about  which I wrote on the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.origins/browse_thread/thread/f43b...
? Is what you are writing a proper thing to come out from a creature
created by God?

With the totaliztic salute,
Jan Pajak