Skep-Ti-Cult business
JPRTIST
>
> Jim Phillips wrote:
> >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
> >
> >> Dan Pressnell wrote:
> >>
> >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> >> >without an official chant?
> >>
> >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
> >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
> >
> > If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
> >made available to the general public...
>
> I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>
> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>
> I'm open to suggestions, and if there is enough interest don't
> mind fronting up the initial cost of getting something produced.
I used to street vend quite a few years back, and the T-shirt salesmen
always baffled me. No matter how cool you make it, no matter how great a
tie dye artist somebody is. No matter how important the message; a
T-shirt is still just a T-shirt. To make matters worse, I was shopping
at a gun show last weekend with a buddy, and there was a table of
T-shirts, selling at low prices, I've never been a big fan of T-shirts,
but my shopping partner is a T-shirt conesuir(sp?). He would feel the
fabric of the stupid shirts and gripe at the quality of them. In spite
of the witty messages on the shirts he did not buy one because of the
low quality. These fucking shirts were only 13 bucks. What do people
expect.
The bottom line is this, anybody who makes money selling T-shirts has
been personally blessed by the hand of God, or is selling something else
under the counter.
I used to sell airbrushed shirts, but I knew airbrushing a T-shirt was a
waste of time, because no matter how fancy the art was, I could still
only sell the shirt for 15 bucks. I would buy white cotton sport shirts,
or white cotton dress shirts and paint those, selling them for as much
as eighty bucks, usually forty five bucks would be the price.
I think, that if you wanted a good promotional item to sell to members
and fans of the Skep-ti-cult. The hottest item would be coffee mugs, and
insulated beverage cups. I say this because when one is enjoying the
cult, he is usually in front of a computer, and even in an office where
one would never wear a T-shirt.
Although I can't think of any clever designs or art work right now, I
would be happy to work on some sort of Skepticult logo or gag. Perhaps
if somebody come up with a chant, like;
Ray, Kettler, Art Bell Show
Hoaxie, Strieber, Make Them Go
Ray, Kettler, Art Bell Show
Hoaxie, Strieber, Make Them Go
on and on and on....
Just my two cents worth.
>
> Feel free to email me or post your ideas on our webboard.
>
> Patefully Yours,
--
J.P.R.J.
"Give to us clear vision that we may know where to stand and what to
stand for -- because unless we stand for something, we shall fall for
anything".
Dr. Peter Marshal, Prayer to U.S. Senate 1947
Dan Pressnell
without an official chant?
Dan
Jon Walsh
>Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
>>Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>>without an official chant?
>
>t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>
I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
virgins.
--
Jon Walsh
Fearless Leader & True/False Prophet at Large
pro...@skepticult.org
http://skepticult.org
Jim Phillips
> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> >without an official chant?
>
> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
made available to the general public...
--
Jim Phillips, jphi...@bcpl.net
"Once again decent citizens will be able to enter this house of
worship, kneel down in front of a nearly-naked man hanging from a wooden
apparatus by a series of gruesome body piercings, and engage in their
bizarre practices of ritualized blood-drinking and cannibalism without
being assaulted by graphic images of attractive young women with bare
breasts". -- A. Whitney Brown, "The Daily Show"
Jon Walsh
>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
>
>> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>>
>> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>> >without an official chant?
>>
>> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>
> If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
>made available to the general public...
I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
I'm open to suggestions, and if there is enough interest don't
mind fronting up the initial cost of getting something produced.
Feel free to email me or post your ideas on our webboard.
Patefully Yours,
jfred
> Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> without an official chant?
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
OCTAGON!
--
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So, cozy up by the fire and watch the Sideaway Ballet--a new
christmassy classic! We can roast chestnuts, and PZ can roast
effigies as Tony dramatically swan dives off the stage.
Glen Quarnstrom
>Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>without an official chant?
YesYesOhYes! Hi! Hi there! I'm Dan!
Dan?
BTW, on an entirely different subject, did anybody hear Art say
"BASSACKWARDS" last night? Is he channeling bRay now? This might
explain is escalating incoherence.
--
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---J.P.R.J. demonstrates his erudition.
Glen Quarnstrom
>>Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>>t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>>
>>>Dan
>
>I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
>virgins.
Aw, Jon, you can have all my virgins.
Clave
news:38468DD7...@ns.vvm.com...
> Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> without an official chant?
Here's one for you, Dan.
Baa-Ram-Ewe
Don't tell anyone else, OK?
Jim
Clave
news:slrn84d8vp....@bolt.sonic.net...
> >>without an official chant?
> >
> >t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
> >
> >>Dan
>
> I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
> virgins.
You don't want the virgins, trust me. Have em send you their sluts.
Jim
Ken Anglesea
wrote:
>In article <al5d4s4iic7jhq2l2...@news.mindspring.com>, CFA wrote:
>>Dan Pressnell wrote:
>>
>>>Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>>>without an official chant?
>>
>>Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>>t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>>
>>>Dan
>
>I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
>virgins.
Vrigins, from Australia?.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
>--
>Jon Walsh
>Fearless Leader & True/False Prophet at Large
>pro...@skepticult.org
>http://skepticult.org
...
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Jon Walsh
>Jon Walsh wrote:
>>
>> I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
>> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
>> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>>
>> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>>
>> I'm open to suggestions, and if there is enough interest don't
>> mind fronting up the initial cost of getting something produced.
>
>always baffled me. No matter how cool you make it, no matter how great a
>tie dye artist somebody is. No matter how important the message; a
>T-shirt is still just a T-shirt. To make matters worse, I was shopping
>at a gun show last weekend with a buddy, and there was a table of
>T-shirts, selling at low prices, I've never been a big fan of T-shirts,
>but my shopping partner is a T-shirt conesuir(sp?). He would feel the
>fabric of the stupid shirts and gripe at the quality of them. In spite
>of the witty messages on the shirts he did not buy one because of the
>low quality. These fucking shirts were only 13 bucks. What do people
>expect.
>
I don't really care about making any money. Breaking even would
be cool though.
I do agree with your friend though. Some T-shirts just suck.
>The bottom line is this, anybody who makes money selling T-shirts has
>been personally blessed by the hand of God, or is selling something else
>under the counter.
Hmmm...all that I can find under my counter are boogers and a
weird yellow spot. Any offers?
>
>I used to sell airbrushed shirts, but I knew airbrushing a T-shirt was a
>waste of time, because no matter how fancy the art was, I could still
>only sell the shirt for 15 bucks. I would buy white cotton sport shirts,
>or white cotton dress shirts and paint those, selling them for as much
>as eighty bucks, usually forty five bucks would be the price.
>
>I think, that if you wanted a good promotional item to sell to members
>and fans of the Skep-ti-cult. The hottest item would be coffee mugs, and
>insulated beverage cups. I say this because when one is enjoying the
>cult, he is usually in front of a computer, and even in an office where
>one would never wear a T-shirt.
>
I think steins with plastic DAN flip-top lids would be awesome.
Unforunately, the time it takes to fill a mug is too great.
I'd rather just pour the beer directly into my mouth.
>Although I can't think of any clever designs or art work right now, I
>would be happy to work on some sort of Skepticult logo or gag. Perhaps
>if somebody come up with a chant, like;
>
I don't have a problem designing things, it's the money that is
the sticking point.
Jon Walsh
>"Jon Walsh" <pro...@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:slrn84d8vp....@bolt.sonic.net...
>wrote:
>> >Dan Pressnell wrote:
>> >
>> >>Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>> >>without an official chant?
>> >
>> >Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>> >t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>> >
>> >>Dan
>>
>> I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
>> virgins.
>
>
Can I just send them back that way?
Lou Minatti™
>
> Jim Phillips wrote:
> >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
> >
> >>
> >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> >> >without an official chant?
> >>
> >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
> >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
> >
> >made available to the general public...
>
> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>
> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
t-shirt.
For the bumper sticker, how about:
-------------------------
| KOOKS HAPPEN |
| skepticult.org |
-------------------------
Bumper stickers are the best form of cheap advertising.
--
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Enoch Discordia
<loumi...@budweiser.com> thpewed thith:
>Jon Walsh wrote:
>> Jim Phillips wrote:
>> >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
>> >> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>> >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>> >> >without an official chant?
>> >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>> >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>> > If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
>> >made available to the general public...
>> I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
>> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
>> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
>t-shirt.
>For the bumper sticker, how about:
>-------------------------
>| KOOKS HAPPEN |
>| skepticult.org |
>-------------------------
>Bumper stickers are the best form of cheap advertising.
I'll take 200 for local distribution. Email me when you're
ready, dude.
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Roachie
> > Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>
> I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
> t-shirt.
I'd buy a box... especially for the AFA show.
TURDI is gonna be there too, hot damn. Panty and turdi, <shudder, shake
shiver> Man, kook field day!!!! I will wear my Lincoln Welding T-shirt
one day then the Out Of Integrity the next... then the Skep-Ti-Cult
shirt the next.. geeeezus. It's gonna be a blast!
> For the bumper sticker, how about:
>
> -------------------------
> | KOOKS HAPPEN |
> | skepticult.org |
> -------------------------
I like :)
> Bumper stickers are the best form of cheap advertising.
pretty permanent, too ;)
roachie-
can I just come on over an pick em up? :)
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Roachie
> roachie-
> can I just come on over an pick em up? :)
oh, of course, an extremely generous donation to the Skep-Ti-Cult too,
no need for me to be cheap or nuthin :)
roachie-
I pay for what I take or break
skep-Ti-peasant™
> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> >without an official chant?
>
> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>
> >Dan
Notice ive already trademarked my name! provided your monitor can view
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DrPostman
>I don't really care about making any money. Breaking even would
>be cool though.
>
>I do agree with your friend though. Some T-shirts just suck.
Do what I did with my fellowship for our world convention on year. I
took orders, had a cut off date, and they were pre-paid. I made 35
of them and for the 3 bucks above my cost I sent them Priority Mail.
I will never do that again, though - unless I charge a buck or two
extra for all that work taking the orders and mailing out all those
shirts.
Still, it was worth it at that gathering of 10,000+ in St. Louis to see
a shirt that I designed and recognize one of the growing crowd
of us that were on-line. I still love the line I came up with, which
has since proliferated (my mother told me that I should have copy
written it - she was right): "Clean & Cyber".
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Dina O'Grogan
Dan Pressnell <dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
> Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> without an official chant?
>
Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
'Kooks' if we liked...)?
KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
Works for me...
~D~
'Nam-myoho-renge-kmiau' has its points as well.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
qtzc...@nospam.texas.net
wrote:
>Jon Walsh wrote:
>>
>> Jim Phillips wrote:
>> >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
>> >
>> >> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>> >> >without an official chant?
>> >>
>> >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>> >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>> >
>> > If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
>> >made available to the general public...
>>
>> I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
>> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
>> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>>
>> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>
>I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
>t-shirt.
>
>For the bumper sticker, how about:
>
>-------------------------
>| KOOKS HAPPEN |
>| skepticult.org |
>-------------------------
ROFL!
I love it!
Sign me up for one!
>Bumper stickers are the best form of cheap advertising.
>
>
>--
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Ken Anglesea
>Ken Anglesea wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 16:52:36 GMT, pro...@bolt.sonic.net (Jon Walsh)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <al5d4s4iic7jhq2l2...@news.mindspring.com>, CFA wrote:
>>>>Dan Pressnell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>>>>>without an official chant?
>>>>
>>>>Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>>>>t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>>>>
>>>>>Dan
>>>
>>>I'm still pissed that nobody sends me their worldly possesions and
>>>virgins.
>>
>>Vrigins, from Australia?.
>>
>>Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
>
>After seeing "Welcome to Woop-Woop"... Do you guys have flush toilets
>down there?
You watched that Turkey?.
Yes we do.
They even flush anti clockwise.
Actually there are some areas in outback Australia, that don't have
flush toilets.
>>>Jon Walsh
>>>Fearless Leader & True/False Prophet at Large
>>>pro...@skepticult.org
>>>http://skepticult.org
>>
>>
Iggie
wrote:
>
>Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
>'Kooks' if we liked...)?
>
>KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
>
>Works for me...
WWKD?
Melinda
Roald Humberg
> Jon Walsh wrote:
> >
> > Jim Phillips wrote:
> > >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> > >> >without an official chant?
> > >>
> > >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
> > >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
> > >
> > >made available to the general public...
> >
> > I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
> > sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
> > the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
> >
> > Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>
> I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
> t-shirt.
>
> For the bumper sticker, how about:
>
> -------------------------
> | KOOKS HAPPEN |
> | skepticult.org |
> -------------------------
--------------------------------
| I LOVE LUCI |
| psicounsel.com |
--------------------------------
Roald Humberg
> roachie-
> I pay for what I take or break
Trans: - Roachie keeps 'Salter' in business.
jfred
> Roald Humberg wrote:
>
> > --------------------------------
> > | I LOVE LUCI |
> > | psicounsel.com |
> > --------------------------------
>
> Trying to tell us something about you and Dan, Luci?
>
> Where's the heart with the little arrow through it?
Does bDAN sing the Bobbaloo?
Glen Quarnstrom
WWBDKD?
Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
with "K" for "Kook?"
Dan Pressnell
> Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> with "K" for "Kook?"
Don't forget Keppler.
Dan
Lou Minatti™
>
> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 05:16:49 -0600, in alt.astrology Neykomi Lee
> <XXney...@dtgnet.com> wrote:
>
> >X-No-Archive: Yes
> >
> >Dan Pressnell wrote:
> >
> >> Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
> >> without an official chant?
> >
> >Where is the official Skep-ti-Cult headquarters at? Once that is
> >revealed maybe bRay can get the FBI to show up there. It's a cult
> >right? And we all know that it isn't a "Compound" until the FBI
> >surrounds it. It isn't a religious sect until the FBI shows up, then
> >it's a real cult.
>
> It has been discussed... I think someone posted pictures on a web site
> someplace. Think a building in Texas...
Yes. It's in Houston. There are many SICK VILE CULTISTS here. Like our
founder.
Roachie
> Yes. It's in Houston. There are many SICK VILE CULTISTS here. Like our
> founder.
And a not so much cultist (COS I NEVER GET MY APP RETURNED ;) but I am
SICK and VILE and very close to Houston. :)
roachie-
pweeese? I wanna be in the Skep-Ti-Cult.. I'm eveil. I'm sick. I'm Vile.
I'm Texan. <sniff, sniff. rejection>
Dina O'Grogan
igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
> >'Kooks' if we liked...)?
> >
> >KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
> >
> >Works for me...
>
> WWKD?
>
Oh, do you have one of those bracelets, too?
<sigh> They've changed so many lives for the better!
~D~
Beep
wrote:
>Jon Walsh wrote:
>>
>> Jim Phillips wrote:
>> >On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, it was written:
>> >
>> >> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>> >> >without an official chant?
>> >>
>> >> Chant, hell. Think of the possibilities- mascot, official beer,
>> >> t-shirts, etc, etc, etc- a whole marketing campaign...
>> >
>> > If only there was a website where all of this stuff could be
>> >made available to the general public...
>>
>> I've sold t-shirts twice, and despite much "interest" I only
>> sold ten or so, and I lost money on all of them. I can't justify
>> the cost of getting things made if nobody will actually buy them.
>>
>> Bumperstickers would be groovy though.
>
>I'd buy a couple. I got a lot of interesting comments while wearing the
>t-shirt.
>
>For the bumper sticker, how about:
>
>-------------------------
>| KOOKS HAPPEN |
>| skepticult.org |
>-------------------------
>
>Bumper stickers are the best form of cheap advertising.
>
Is this what us woo-woos get you skeptics for Xmas? :)
Pam
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Iggie
wrote:
>Maybe they can form a group/club/cult. they can all dress in white
>robes and pointy hoods.
>
>Knights in White Muslin? Percale Posse?
^^^^^
YM Pink...HTH
Melinda
Iggie
wrote:
>In article <38474b27...@news.uswest.net>,
> igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
>>
>> WWKD?
>>
>
>Oh, do you have one of those bracelets, too?
>
><sigh> They've changed so many lives for the better!
Not a bracelet, but the other day my daughter tried to get a toy out
of a gumball machine, and ended up with a necklace with WWJD on it.
She was so disappointed.
Melinda
Lucianarchy
> In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> > with "K" for "Kook?"
>
> What are you implying.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
Lou Minatti™
>
> Lou Minatti <loumi...@budweiser.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes. It's in Houston. There are many SICK VILE CULTISTS here. Like our
> > founder.
>
> And a not so much cultist (COS I NEVER GET MY APP RETURNED ;) but I am
> SICK and VILE and very close to Houston. :)
>
> roachie-
> pweeese? I wanna be in the Skep-Ti-Cult.. I'm eveil. I'm sick. I'm Vile.
> I'm Texan. <sniff, sniff. rejection>
You're not a member yet? Why not?
Roachie
> Roachie wrote:
> >
> > Lou Minatti <loumi...@budweiser.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes. It's in Houston. There are many SICK VILE CULTISTS here. Like our
> > > founder.
> >
> > And a not so much cultist (COS I NEVER GET MY APP RETURNED ;) but I am
> > SICK and VILE and very close to Houston. :)
> >
> > roachie-
> > pweeese? I wanna be in the Skep-Ti-Cult.. I'm eveil. I'm sick. I'm Vile.
> > I'm Texan. <sniff, sniff. rejection>
>
> You're not a member yet? Why not?
Somehow I guess the application never got in and accepted or somethin. I
know I did it around August... maybe a little before. Perhaps a resubmit
would be in order :)
woachie-
Hi, Luci... that smart ass post confirmed you being that sock.
Enoch Discordia
(Bob Officer) thpewed thith:
>On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 05:16:49 -0600, in alt.astrology Neykomi Lee
><XXney...@dtgnet.com> wrote:
>>X-No-Archive: Yes
>>Dan Pressnell wrote:
>>> Shouldn't we have something like a cult chant? What good is a cult
>>> without an official chant?
>>> Dan
>>Where is the official Skep-ti-Cult headquarters at? Once that is
>>revealed maybe bRay can get the FBI to show up there. It's a cult
>>right? And we all know that it isn't a "Compound" until the FBI
>>surrounds it. It isn't a religious sect until the FBI shows up, then
>>it's a real cult.
>It has been discussed... I think someone posted pictures on a web site
>someplace. Think a building in Texas...
I might be able to help out here. In their old age, my
parents have decided to play around with real estate. They
want to purchase a 4-acre place in a backwards bit of
Morgantown and put me on it. It'd be an excellent spot for
an underground bunker, since it sits on a level cut above a
thirty or forty foot bank. We could have a shaft entrance or
a huge steel door in the bank. There's even a small stream
running by it that we could trap and use for water and a
small hydroelectric generator to supplement the solar
panels.
For food, we can have an underground hydroponic vegetable
farm and raise guinea pigs for meat. My family's company
could lend us a drill rig and some construction tools and we
could house every cultist in comfortable underground rooms.
:)
Enoch Discordia
<lucia...@dial.pipex.com> thpewed thith:
>> What are you implying.
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
Why, hello, Luci. Going to be around for a while? I have to
know so I'll be able to track your constant humiliation and
degredation into alcoholism and insanity.
Lucianarchy
> On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:40:03 -0000, "Lucianarchy"
> <lucia...@dial.pipex.com> thpewed thith:
>
> >Matt Kriebel wrote
> >> In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> >> gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
>
> >> > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> >> > with "K" for "Kook?"
>
> >> What are you implying.
>
> >BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
>
> Why, hello, Luci.
<to tune of 'Hello Dolly'>
....... It's so *nice* to have you back where yooou belong!
> Going to be around for a while?
Hard to tell, I'm hanging on to my Pipex account by a thread ATM.
>I have to know so I'll be able to track your constant humiliation and
> degredation into alcoholism
Hey now! My only vice is is well nurtured, bio- Durban.
> and insanity.
It's a Catch22 sort of situation .....
--
" .... Y'know, I think I recognise your face,
..... but I've never seen you before."
http://www.angelfire.com/me/lucianarchy
Dan Kettler
<snip>
> Jon Walsh
> Fearless Leader & True/False Prophet at Large
> pro...@skepticult.org
> http://skepticult.org
<snip>
=====================================================
What is "Skepticult"? Update Sept. 9, 1999
Q What about censorship on USENET?
A. Read "FAQ Of Newsgroup Chaos"
at...
http://www.psicounsel.com/faqchaos.html
and...
Discussion of Usenet Censorship
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
Q. How is past Usenet activity proven?
A. http://www.deja.com ( "power search" )
Q. What do "skepticult" members (the organization)
mostly do on Usenet?
A. They lie about, and denigrate the character of
those who find astrology and the paranormal
authentic. They are nice to other _supposed_
proponents who help them attack their principal
target proponents.
Q Where is the proof?
A. Here....
http://www.deja.com (use "power search")
Look for "skepticult" in signatures of posts, but it
is not in all of their posts.
First look to the newsgroups
to see which one's are currently active.
The listing at www.skepticult.org may be
helpful, but those on that list who are not
active in newsgroups are not relevant.
Q Who are, principally, the ones who help them?
The list is short. The number is 5 at this time.
Two females and one male post from the
astrology group.
Two males post from the paranormal group.
I may give names in a future revision. Some
have not participated in this activity for quite
some time, and I may delete them from the 5
mentioned if they continue that inactivity.
Q. How did the word "skepticult" come about?
A. I, Dan Kettler, coined the word years ago.
Q. What does it mean?
A. It means it's a cult...
http://www.psicounsel.com/cult.html
Q. Are they skeptics?
A. No, they call themselves "skeptics."
A few say they are paranormalists
and astrologers.
Q. What is the organization called "skepticult"
A. See http://www.skepticult.org
Q. Do they have to belong to that organization
to be cultists, or to be considered "skepticult"?
A. No
Q What is the difference between the organization
members, and just "skepticult" people?
Skepticult organization members have a principal
activity of lying denigration of character.
Hardly any attention is given to the subjects
astrology or the paranormal, even to disagree
with them.
Skepticult people, who are not members of that
organization, write that that do not believe the
paranormal or astrology have validity, with some
denigration of character of proponents from time
to time. Skepticult people are just pseudo-skeptics,
who do not necessarily belong to any named
organization.
Q. What are the (organization) members major activity
on USENET
A. Lying defamation about proponents.
Q. Who are some "skepticult" members?
A. Some are... Lou Minatti
Dan Pressnell
DrPostman
digger
Widdershins
Bob Officer
BlueAce69
LectrikEd
EMPATH
Phil Harrison
Jon Walsh
Q Explain "truth" and "falsehood" to the view of Skepticult
Organization Members
A Denigration of character is their mission. Between truth
and falsehood, neither is preferable, except
for the use of an element of truth they use to
build the lie.
Q What does Raymond Karczewski say about "Skepticult"?
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:27:51 GMT
What is becoming more and more obvious to the
readers of these newsgroups is the pettiness
and malevolence of the AFAB
Bully/Skepticultist disinformation agents who are
unable to express anything of substance beyond
these vague, denigrating, one-liner cheap shot
attacks they are noted for.
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:25:58 GMT
This type of mind control/disinformation tactic used
in titles and sig lines is a specialty of the
AFAB Bullies/Skepticultists and can be seen as
an almost daily occurance on the Internet...
Raymond Karczewski's Web Site
What is the history of alt.fan.art-bell (AFA-B)?
http://www.psicounsel.com/afabinfo.html
Q Where can I find out what "call themselves 'skeptics'" means,
and other information about newsgroup activities?
A. See
http://www.psicounsel.com/news
--
dan (at) psicounsel com
www psicounsel com / news
Dan Kettler
> > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >>Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
> > >>'Kooks' if we liked...)?
How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
at the
dictionary references, the links to
other sites
about Net Censorship, will see I
correctly interpret
both "censorship" and "terrorism" and
that NOTHING
IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
shown with
links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
How about what the "skepticult" is... shown and proven
at...
http://www.psicounsel.com/skeporg.html (you may have
to use DEJANEWS
and some time
to prove it)
Let's see, "skepticult" is a word, which the DEJANEWS
archives show,
I coined. Then a bunch of people decided to become
"skepticultists"
with a web site: www.skepticult.org
The "cancel.html" page was recently updated at NCAT. What is NCAT?
NCAT is...
Net Censorship and Terrorism
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
Guess who does a _lot_ of NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM?
You guessed it?
"Skepticult" members, that's who.
> > >>KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
> > >>
> > >>Works for me...
Yeah, works for you, huh? Say it over and over, right? No, it will not
work.
See, "Kettler did _not_ just "make it all up."
> > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> > with "K" for "Kook?"
Yeah, so funny, like is that your version of humor?
<snip?
BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
anonym™
>
> Matt Kriebel wrote:
>
> > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> > > igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
> > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > >>Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
> > > >>'Kooks' if we liked...)?
>
> How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
> at the
> dictionary references, the links to
> other sites
> about Net Censorship, will see I
> correctly interpret
> both "censorship" and "terrorism" and
> that NOTHING
> IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
> shown with
> links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
You have got to be fucking kidding me (YHGTBFKM)
Just when you thought his kooky formatting couldn't get any kookier...
>
...
>
> Guess who does a _lot_ of NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM?
>
> You guessed it?
>
Sure did. Ed Wollmann. What did I win?
>
> > > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> > > with "K" for "Kook?"
>
> Yeah, so funny, like is that your version of humor?
No, it's reality.
>
> <snip?
>
> BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
>
Exciting for who?
--
"Why am I an asshole?" -Edmond Wollmann
anonym™
A. He's a Kook.
Q. Is he pretty stupid?
A. Yes. He was declared "incoherent" by the New York Times, and filed
for bankruptcy.
Q. Is he the one with those ranting hate pages?
A. Yep.
Q. Should anyone take a kook like that seriously?
A. Nope.
anonym™
Re: FAQ Re: NCAT Skep-Ti-Cult business NCAT
Date:
Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:32:48 -0800
From:
anonym™ <ano...@pacbell.net>
Reply-To:
idontw...@goddamnemail.unut
Organization:
.
Newsgroups:
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology, alt.fan.art-bell, alt.astrology.metapsych
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6
Dan Kettler wrote:
>
...
>
> BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
Dan, that page has so much bullshit on it I couldn't find the link to
the cancelled posts page.
Where the fuck is it, kook?
And why did you file for bankruptcy? Are you as stupid with your
finances as you are with the written language?
jfred
> Matt Kriebel wrote:
>
> > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> > > igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
> > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > >>Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just
> > > >>stand for 'Kooks' if we liked...)?
>
> How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
> at the
> dictionary references, the links to
> other sites
> about Net Censorship, will see I
> correctly interpret
> both "censorship" and "terrorism" and
> that NOTHING
> IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
> shown with
> links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
>
> How about what the "skepticult" is... shown and proven
> at...
>
> http://www.psKA-BOOM! (you may have
> to use DEJANEWS
> and some time
> to prove it)
>
> Let's see, "skepticult" is a word, which the DEJANEWS
> archives show,
> I coined. Then a bunch of people decided to become
> "skepticultists"
> with a web site: www.skepticult.org
>
> The "cancel.html" page was recently updated at NCAT. What is NCAT?
> NCAT is...
>
> Net Censorship and Terrorism
>
>
>
> Guess who does a _lot_ of NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM?
>
> You guessed it?
>
> "Skepticult" members, that's who.
>
> > > >>KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
> > > >>
> > > >>Works for me...
>
> Yeah, works for you, huh? Say it over and over, right? No, it will not
> work.
> See, "Kettler did _not_ just "make it all up."
>
> > > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
> > > with "K" for "Kook?"
>
> Yeah, so funny, like is that your version of humor?
Many people's version of humor is noting the fucked up formatting of
your posts, bruDAN. Have you ever taken a good look at one of them? They
are visually illegible.
I've quoted this one asis (except for what happened to the URLs).
No kidding.
Now, don't you feel silly?
> <snip?
>
> BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
Clave
news:3849F8F1...@pacbell.net...
> Dan Kettler wrote:
> ...
> >
> > BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> > about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
>
> the cancelled posts page.
>
> Where the fuck is it, kook?
>
> finances as you are with the written language?
He couldn't possibly be. They obviously haven't repossessed his computer.
Jim
Tom Kerr
In article <3849F5D9...@psicounsel.com>, d...@psicounsel.com wrote:
<snip>
> How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
>at the
> dictionary references, the links to
>other sites
> about Net Censorship, will see I
>correctly interpret
> both "censorship" and "terrorism" and
>that NOTHING
> IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
>shown with
> links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
>
> How about what the "skepticult" is... shown and proven
>at...
>
> http://www.psicounsel.com/skeporg.html (you may have
>to use DEJANEWS
> and some time
>to prove it)
>
> Let's see, "skepticult" is a word, which the DEJANEWS
>archives show,
> I coined. Then a bunch of people decided to become
>"skepticultists"
> with a web site: www.skepticult.org
DAN, do you still deny being incoherent?
<snip>
Kevin Burnett
wrote:
>>> In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
>>> gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
>
>>> > Isn't it interesting that BruDan and bRay both have last names starting
>>> > with "K" for "Kook?"
>
>
>>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
>
>know so I'll be able to track your constant humiliation and
You're too late. That happened a long time ago.
--
k...@catnip.org http://www.catnip.org/
"CYNIC, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are,
not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among Scythiians of plucking
out a cynic's eyes to improve his vision." - Ambrose Bierce
jfred
LOL!!!!!!!
How could he? You can't can't go anywhere around here without tripping
over the evidence!
Dina O'Grogan
>
> > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> > > >wrote:
>
> > > >>Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up --- or that 'K' could just stand for
> > > >>'Kooks' if we liked...)?
>
> NOTHING
> IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
> shown with
> links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
>
But, 'KMIAU!' sounds so much better than 'NIMUSTAPSWLTDAP!'...
[---]
> > > >>KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU, KMIAU!
> > > >>
> > > >>Works for me...
>
> Yeah, works for you, huh? Say it over and over, right?
It's a chant, no?
> No, it will not
> work.
Ha! I got a new car, a new kitchen range, *and* a check for $64,000 since I
began chanting it...
(Prove I haven't! ;)
> See, "Kettler did _not_ just "make it all up."
>
...'KDNJMIAU!' doesn't sound that good either!
KMIAU!
~D~
[---]
Dan Kettler
> > How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
> > at the dictionary references, the links to other sites
> > about Net Censorship, will see I correctly interpret
> > both "censorship" and "terrorism" <snip>
The /cancel.html page has been updated.
> > NCAT > > Net Censorship and Terrorism
> > > > > > http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
> DAN, do you still deny being incoherent?
> > > > > > > All about the alleged incoherence is at...
> > > > > > > http://www.psicounsel.com/nyt.html
In answer to your question, which is fully explained and proven
at the above URL, one additional part of that answer is that
your former avoidance of it after our last exchange, indicates
you are a deceptive spin doctor.
> <snip>
Dan Kettler
> > > > > <a.a.m. snipped --- see a.a.m. charter in links to Edmond Wollmann's site --- from the
> > > > > /news site referenced below>
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@gte.net>
<_Qm24.1401$323....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>
That really _is_ "gte"? Oh my! I
have a copy of their TERMS OF SERVICE
linked _through_ the cancel.html page.
It's the cancel page to another, then
another.
X-Complaints-To: ab...@gte.net
Clave wrote:
> > > BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> > > about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
> > > > http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
> > > > NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM (NCAT)
Net Censorship and Terrorism, in the newsgroups alt.paranormal,
alt.fan.art-bell, and
alt.astrology is done by PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS (PSF) I've proven that
through links
from the above WEB SITE.
> > Dan, that page has so much bull**it on it I couldn't...
That's propaganda folks. It's written to keep you from referencing the
site. Other propaganda
I've seen in the newsgroups is about other people's sites, sites that
expose the sick, power-hungry
fanatics. They were saying that at Lucianarchy's site, she allegedly
had some virus that infected
anyone's computer who accessed it. Another, recently, from EMPATH about
my site was about
"invading privacy." Nearly every site sends out feelers to see what
domains are
accessing, and what search engines they are from, for statistical
gathering.
It's all lies. Go look at the site. See what these deceptive
spin-doctors have done to
these newsgroups. See how they took over alt.fan.art-bell, and how once
the newsgroup
was ACTUALLY PROMINENTLY USED BY FANS OF ART BELL. See the /news site,
and click on
the reference about the afa-b newsgroup.
>>>>>>> [couldn't] ... find the link to the cancelled posts page.
Oh, you are so full of crap! All anyone has to do is click at
"cancelled" in the outline
of number 5. I scrolled down a small fraction of the page to find
that. There are
7 points shown with small paragraphs near the top of the page.
> > Where the f**k is it, kook?
See, this is what I mean. Look at the arrogance of this
creep in the above writing. See how irrational they write.
> > And why did you file for bankrputcy?
Like bankruptcy is supposed to have something to do with what I write
here, or that
it's any of your business.
It's all spin, all meant to discredit a person, so that what that person
writes on Usenet will not be read, or believed by those who do read it.
Dan Kettler
> > > > > The subject of this post
> > > > > is...
----------- NCAT... and it is
----------- appropriate
----------- to include the URL that it's about...
NCAT Net Censorship and Terrorism
> > > http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
jfred wrote:
> Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote:
> > Matt Kriebel wrote:
> > > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> > > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> > > > igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
> > > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up... <snip>
However, I did _not_ make it all up. See the
above referenced site with PROOFS, and the
wording of a debate about the truth of the matter.
Click near the top of the page for the
"dictionary" reference, and that includes
a link to another site about Net Censorship.
> > Net Censorship and Terrorism
> >
> > http://www.psKA-BOOM!
Oh, so you don't want readers to see the site?
Why else would you change it, as shown above?
> > BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> > about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
Yes, very interesting additions to
that page.
Thank you, jfred, for your input.
Dan Kettler
> > > > > a.a.m. snipped
CFA, (DECEPTIVE SPIN-DOCTOR) @. wrote:
> >Dan Kettler wrote:
> >> BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> >> about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM (NCAT)
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
> CFA: Well, I took a peek ...
>
> http://www.psicounsel.com/cancel.html
It is nearly impossible to PROVE CONCLUSIVELY that segment, yet. One
can only add evidence.
However, what you conveniently leave out is the fact that there are
___13___ points,
and cancel.html is only ___one___ of that 13. "Rogue" cancelling of
posts is
often covered by false identity, and done by experts to avoid revealing
that
identity. I placed posts of people, who wrote to NANAU, about
cancellations.
Many other of the 13 points HAVE BEEN PROVEN with links to DEJA
ARCHIVES.
The readers who access the site will get a much more accurate and
complete picture of it, than you
could ever "supply" with your deceptive spin doctoring.
Reading the site, and the many links, they will decide for themselves,
whether, in fact ...
> > > > > PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS do NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM...
They will take into consideration all that you deceptively, and
selectively leave
out from your writing of the site, such as...
Some of the 7 types of Censorship are not conclusively
proven
as having taken place from the activities of
Pseudo-Skeptic-Fanatics.
The same is true of Net Terrorism with the 6 types shown.
However,
the proofs presented for certain important points are
enough to show
that Net Censorship and Terrorism (NCAT) from
Pseudo-Skeptic-Fantics
is a proven fact.
<snip -- the debate with you was concluded, and copied to the WEB PAGES>
Dan Kettler
> ...You can't can't go anywhere around here without tripping over the evidence!
Which evidence? Evidence that fanatics continually say the same lies
over and
over, even after what they say was proven a lie?
http://www.psicounsel.com/nyt.html
New York Times alleged "incoherence"
Since you mention, again, NCAT Net Censorship and Terrorism...
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
Thank you for your input, jfred.
Widdershins
wrote:
>
>> > > > > The subject of this post
>> > > > > is...
>
>----------- NCAT... and it is
>----------- appropriate
>
>----------- to include the URL that it's about...
>
>NCAT Net Censorship and Terrorism
>
>> > > http://www.psicoKaBLAM!
>
>jfred wrote:
>
>> Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote:
>> > Matt Kriebel wrote:
>> > > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
>> > > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
>> > > > igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
>> > > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
>> > > > >wrote:
>
>> > > > > Howzabout KMIAU (Kettler Made It All Up... <snip>
>
>However, I did _not_ make it all up. See the
>above referenced site with PROOFS, and the
>wording of a debate about the truth of the matter.
Dan, Dan, Dan. Referencing your own site, where you
post your skewed opinion, is not, never has been, never will
be PROOF. Proof comes from outside, neutral, independent verification,
not you Pages o' Hate.
Thanks for playing.
>
>Click near the top of the page for the
>"dictionary" reference, and that includes
>a link to another site about Net Censorship.
>
>> > Net Censorship and Terrorism
>> >
>> > http://www.psKA-BOOM!-KERASH!
>
>Oh, so you don't want readers to see the site?
>Why else would you change it, as shown above?
>
>> > BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
>> > about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
>
>Yes, very interesting additions to
>that page.
>
>Thank you,
You're welcome. Not at all. My pleasure
Widdershins
Skepticult Member #159-904378-909
My inner child is a mean little fucker.
Dan Pressnell
all screwed up by BDKook.
Even the subject line is screwed up now. Look at it. It doesn't even
make sense!
Just try to have a discussion here!
Dan
Dan Kettler
> This was a very simple thread about skep-ti-cult business, and now it's
> all screwed up by BDKook.
Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
Let's see, the "skepticult"?
What is that, exactly?
> > > > > > http://www.psicounsel.com/skeporg.html
This is about Art Bell, a paranormal discussion talk-show-host. It's
about astrology, not anti-astrology. Isn't "anti" what the cult is
about, primarily? Does anything indicate "anti" paranormal
in the title of the newsgroup?
What about NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
<snip>
Dan Kettler
>
> Dan Kettler wrote:
> >
> > Dan Pressnell wrote:
<snip>
...about NCAT, since that is the thread title, now.
What, exactly, is NCAT?
It's N et C ensorship A nd T errorism
...and the URL is...
............... http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
Dan Pressnell
>
> Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
> > all screwed up by BDKook.
>
> Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
That might be a good chant.
What does everybody think?
Dan
Dan Kettler
> On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 06:18:11 -0800, Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> > > > > The subject of this post
> >> > > > > is...
> >
> >----------- NCAT... and it is
> >----------- appropriate
> >
> >----------- to include the URL that it's about...
> >
> >NCAT Net Censorship and Terrorism
> >
> >> > > http://www.psicoKaBLAM!
I really appreciate your input WIDDERSHINS. Now you have
called my attention, and that of the readers, to the fact
that there is a site about NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM
as PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS do it...
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
> >jfred wrote:
> >
> >> Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote:
> >> > Matt Kriebel wrote:
> >> > > In article <f4cg4sogghb24lpcr...@4ax.com>,
> >> > > gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
> >> > > > igg...@uswest.net (Iggie) wrote:
> >> > > > >On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:12:38 GMT, Dina O'Grogan <kle...@yahoo.com>
> >> > > > >wrote:
Widdershins:
> Dan, Dan, Dan. Referencing your own site, where you
> post your skewed opinion, is not, never has been, never will
> be PROOF...<snip>
As the readers will discover, there is far more than my "opinion,"
rather there are references from the DEJANEWS ARCHIVES which
show the CENSORSHIP activities.
There is reference to a University site, which shows the correct
definition of "censor" as it applies to NET activity, as well
as a dictionary reference. Click at "dictionary" at the top
part of the page.
<snip>
Dan Pressnell
> ...about NCAT, since that is the thread title, now.
No, sorry. You'll have to talk about the new thread title.
Dan
jfred
How about "Skeptics and spinics and culties, oh my!"
Followed reassuringly with, "There's no place like my alternate
reality," chanted three times while tapping one's heels together?
(or maybe, in the case of bruDAN, "If I only had a brain...")
Matt Kriebel
<dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
> Dan Kettler wrote:
> >
> > Dan Pressnell wrote:
> >
> > > This was a very simple thread about skep-ti-cult business, and now it's
> > > all screwed up by BDKook.
> >
> > Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
>
> That might be a good chant.
>
> What does everybody think?
>
> Dan
Hmmmmmmm.
Oh....my....my....my
Yes,yes,ohyes
Oh....my....my....my
Yes,yes,ohyes
Oh....my....my....my
Yes,yes,ohyes
<chorus>
PinktittyPinkpate/pinktittypinkpate
PinktittyPinkpate/PinktittyPinkpate
</chorus>
Hi....Hi...hithere
Yes,yes,ohyes
Hi....Hi...hithere
Yes,yes,ohyes.
Hi....Hi...hithere
Yes,yes,ohyes.
<chorus>
--
Matt Kriebel * The Hessian Page
got...@netaxs.com * http://www.netaxs.com/~gothic/Hessian.html
*********************************************************************
No, I do *not* sharpen my teeth, its a movie!
Dan Kettler
<snip>
DK: > > Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
Someone wrote: That might be a good chant.
> Oh....my....my....my
> Yes,yes,ohyes
> Oh....my....my....my
> Yes,yes,ohyes
> Oh....my....my....my
> Yes,yes,ohyes
>
> <chorus>
>
> PinktittyPinkpate/pinktittypinkpate
> PinktittyPinkpate/PinktittyPinkpate
What of the skepticult?
.... http://www.psicounsel.com/skeporg.html
> </chorus>
>
> Hi....Hi...hithere
> Yes,yes,ohyes
> Hi....Hi...hithere
> Yes,yes,ohyes.
> Hi....Hi...hithere
> Yes,yes,ohyes.
>
> <chorus>
Yes, yes, oh yes, there is NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM (NCAT)
.........http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
> --
> Matt Kriebel * The Hessian Page
> got...@netaxs.com * http://www.netaxs.com/~gothic/Hessian.html
> *********************************************************************
> No, I do *not* sharpen my teeth, its a movie!
--
Widdershins
wrote:
>Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
>> This was a very simple thread about skep-ti-cult business, and now it's
>> all screwed up by BDKook.
>
>Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
>
>Let's see, the "skepticult"?
>
>What is that, exactly?
>
>> > > > > > http://www.psicouBOOM
>
>This is about Art Bell, a paranormal discussion talk-show-host. It's
>about astrology, not anti-astrology. Isn't "anti" what the cult is
>about, primarily? Does anything indicate "anti" paranormal
>in the title of the newsgroup?
>
>What about NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM?
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See http://www.psicKaboom!
>
><snip>
"<snip>" in deed.
Dan, why not just reference the Skepticult's own web site? People
can then see first hand what we're all about, and not have to rely
on the filtered input of a Kook.
Don't mention it. Glad to help.
Widdershins
wrote:
>Dan Pressnell <dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan Kettler wrote:
>> >
>> > Dan Pressnell wrote:
>> >
>> > > This was a very simple thread about skep-ti-cult business, and now
>> > > it's all screwed up by BDKook.
>> >
>> > Oh, my, the "skepticult" Oh... my... my... my...
>>
>> That might be a good chant.
>>
>> What does everybody think?
>
>How about "Skeptics and spinics and culties, oh my!"
>
>Followed reassuringly with, "There's no place like my alternate
>reality," chanted three times while tapping one's heels together?
>
>(or maybe, in the case of bruDAN, "If I only had a brain...")
Or, some nerve.
Widdy
DrPostman
>Roachie <r...@think.different> wrote in message news:82a7bj$f9i$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
>> roachie-
>> pweeese? I wanna be in the Skep-Ti-Cult.. I'm eveil. I'm sick. I'm Vile.
>> I'm Texan. <sniff, sniff. rejection>
>
>Trans: The Skepti's Stonwall racists. ( Yay! )
>
>
Hey Luci, I thought you were already a member. Didn't you join about a
year ago?
--
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
High Counselor of the New Usenet Order & Existentialist Philosophos
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You can email me at: jamiemps(at)mindspring.com
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children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex."
-- Jack Handy
anonym™
>
> anonym™ wrote:
>
> >Dan Kettler wrote:
> >>
> >
> >...
> >>
> >> BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting information
> >> about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
> >
> >the cancelled posts page.
> >
> >Where the fuck is it, kook?
>
Here's a GREAT page about cancelled posts by Net Censor and Terrorist Ed
Wollmann, presented in a straightforward, easy to read, nicely formatted way!
"Edmond Wollmann Censors by Illegitimately Cancelling
Others' Usenet Posts
Ed Wollmann has never owned up to his own censorious activities. In July
of 1997, he issued a rash of over 50 illegitimate third-party cancels
for Usenet posts with which he apparently had some issue with. Many of
the posts he attempted to cancel made it to DejaNews, so that it can be
seen that posters were sometimes merely criticising him. Wollman's
outrageous "Netcopping" behavior is grevious Net Abuse. These cancel
posts were made primarily from Wollmann's now-defunct Aznet account
(cancelled due to multiple, seemingly endless complaints about his
abusive behavior in Usenet.)
Wollmann complains often about his critics "censoring" him despite
failing to ever show evidence of cancels by anyone but the notorious
"HipCrime" crew; a not-too-surprising result of Wollmann's off-topic
whining on nanau.In fact, many times, posts that Wollmann complains
about being cancelled are offered up to him as viable from any number of
posters and servers. Indeed, he has on one occasion been tripped up
trying to "frame" a cancellation of his post on others, only to have the
cancel message turn out to be authored by Wolmann himself.
The cancel messages below turned up in a Dejanews search, and only apply
to third party cancels issued by Wollmann; however the list is not
all-inclusive and it does not include cancels made for his own posts."
Continued (with solid proof) at:
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/edcancels.html
jfred
> Thank you, jfred, for your input.
You're welcome, bruDAN. I hope my contributions will help you to one day
become a less incoherent being.
jfred
> jfred wrote:
>
> > ...You can't can't go anywhere around here without tripping over the
> >evidence!
> >
> Which evidence?
bruDAN, have you ever LOOKED at one of your posts? They look like they
were formatted in a blender!
<snip!>
> Thank you for your input, jfred.
You're welcome.
anonym™
>
> Widdershins wrote:
>
...
> > >
> > >> > > http://www.psicoKaBLAM!
>
> I really appreciate your input WIDDERSHINS. Now you have
> called my attention, and that of the readers, to the fact
> that there is a site about NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM...
You mean to say you'd titled a shitload of subject headers on the topic
and your attention wasn't there?
I believe it.
anonym™
>
> Dan Pressnell wrote:
> >
> > Dan Kettler wrote:
> > >
> > > Dan Pressnell wrote:
>
>
> ...about NCAT, since that is the thread title, now.
>
>
> It's N et C ensorship A nd T errorism
>
> ...and the URL is...
>
> ...............
a joke.
anonym™
>
> Matt Kriebel wrote:
...
>
> > </chorus>
> >
> > Hi....Hi...hithere
> > Yes,yes,ohyes
> > Hi....Hi...hithere
> > Yes,yes,ohyes.
> > Hi....Hi...hithere
> > Yes,yes,ohyes.
> >
> > <chorus>
>
> Yes, yes, oh yes,
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAH!
Sing WITH us, DAN!
Clave
I didn't write any of this, you fucking kook.
Jim
"Dan Kettler" <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote in message
news:384A71BF...@psicounsel.com...
>
> > > > > > <a.a.m. snipped --- see a.a.m. charter in links to Edmond
Wollmann's site --- from the
> > > > > > /news site referenced below>
>
> "Clave" <ClaviusNo...@gte.net>
> <_Qm24.1401$323....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>
>
> That really _is_ "gte"? Oh my! I
> have a copy of their TERMS OF SERVICE
> linked _through_ the cancel.html page.
> It's the cancel page to another, then
> another.
>
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@gte.net
>
> Clave wrote:
>
> > > > BTW, the new /cancel.html page shows some new and exciting
information
> > > > about cancelled posts, linked from the NCAT page.
>
> > > > > http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
>
> > > > > NET CENSORSHIP AND TERRORISM (NCAT)
>
Glen Quarnstrom
>>(or maybe, in the case of bruDAN, "If I only had a brain...")
>
>Or, some nerve.
Or some hair.
--
"I do not permit excess verbiage on my web site. I don't want
readers to fall asleep, so I leave in what is essential.
---BruDan pins the Irony Meter
Dan Kettler
Howard Goldstein
of http://www.psicounsel.com/goldstein.html fame
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:11:32 -0500, CFA, @. <CFA,@.> wrote:
> : CFA: Well, I took a peek ...
> :
> : http://www.psicoBOOM
Okay, I see that NCAT is in the subject header. Well,
what *IS* NCAT?
Net Censorship and Terrorism
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
On the cancel.html page:
> : It seems
> : that if these posts actually do get cancelled by "anonym," I enterpret
> : that according to recent posts from ADMIN Howard Goldstein, mention of
> : these URLs by EHW or any other person will then be cause for automatic
> : cancellation of posts.
> Great, now we've got BDKook trying (and failing) to "enterpret" my
> writings...<snip>
Let's see, there's the goldstein.html pages. There's DEJANEWS in which
I
quote nearly all your posts about this subject. www.deja.com (use
"power search")
I recall your point being that once a certain post is declared "spam"
because of
excessive posting by a number of people, (the combination of people
bringing
the total to unacceptable levels) the same information will then be
automatically
cancelled when posted.
So, I have rewritten the paragraph on the WEB PAGE:
...........It seems that if these posts were cancelled by "anonym,"
...........and if they had also been placed by a number of people
...........that caused the spam count to be excessively high, I
...........enterpret that according to recent posts from ADMIN
...........Howard Goldstein, mention of these URLs by EHW or
...........any other person would then be cause for
...........automatic cancellation of posts.
HG: [dk] inability to express himself clearly.
DK: Oh, bu****it!
> [dk] increased reliance on Wollmann's mere claims of victimization.
I *READ* the fuc***g newsgroups! I have for 4 fu*****g years.
This is the fact. It might not have been necessary to even
FORM the newsgroup alt.astrology.metaphsych which most this
fuss is about, if it were not for the CRAZED, SICK, MENATALITY
OF PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS.
I see that wben EHW just posts astrology, no attacks,
no personal remarks, he is CONTINUALLY DENIGRATED.
If the PSF would just let him post ON-TOPIC, and mind their
own friggen business, none of these "problems" would exist.
It is no PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATIC's business whether he reposts,
answers their INANE comments, or starts a newsgroup about
astrology. If they don't like his complaints to ISPS, let
them post in alt.astrology, why a.a.m. which EHW started
and wrote a charter for?
There's a wide, expansive, space on the INTERNET. Why
alt.astrology.metapsych for PSF to demand charters about,
to demand the "right" to harass astrologers in?
What the hell is wrong with these people? What
the hell is wrong with you defending them?
Clave
By the way, if you actually did submit this to GTE, I expect you to now
submit a retraction. I won't wait long.
Misattributing fuckwit.
Jim
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote in message
news:3gA24.2662$323....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
Dan Kettler
>
> By the way, if you actually did submit this to GTE, I expect you to now
I didn't write anything to GTE.
See NCAT: Net Censorship and Terrorism (NCAT)
linked from the page at the end of this
post -- the sig.
anonym™
>
> sini...@concentric.net (Widdershins) wrote:
>
> >>(or maybe, in the case of bruDAN, "If I only had a brain...")
> >
> >Or, some nerve.
>
> Or some hair.
Or financial aptitude.
> --
>
> "I do not permit excess verbiage on my web site. I don't want
> readers to fall asleep, so I leave in what is essential.
> ---BruDan pins the Irony Meter
--
anonym™
>
> <aam snipped>
>
> Howard Goldstein
>
> of http://www.psicounsel.com/goldstein.html fame
>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:11:32 -0500, CFA, @. <CFA,@.> wrote:
> > : CFA: Well, I took a peek ...
> > :
> > : http://www.psicoBOOM
>
> Okay, I see that NCAT is in the subject header. Well,
>
It's your kooky delusion, DAN.
>
> So, I have rewritten the paragraph on the WEB PAGE:
>
> ...........It seems that if these posts were cancelled by "anonym,"
> ...........and if they had also been placed by a number of people
> ...........that caused the spam count to be excessively high, I
> ...........enterpret that according to recent posts from ADMIN
> ...........Howard Goldstein, mention of these URLs by EHW or
> ...........any other person would then be cause for
> ...........automatic cancellation of posts.
Wow. There sure are a lot of "ifs" in there, DAN. "It seems"? That's a
lot of speculation, DAN.
You can't offer your dimwitted speculation as "proof" of *anything*, DAN.
>
> HG: [dk] inability to express himself clearly.
>
> DK: Oh, bu****it!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Irony Meter goes to 9.9!
I am unclear on your response, Dan. Why are you using asterisks?
>
> > [dk] increased reliance on Wollmann's mere claims of victimization.
>
> I *READ* the fuc***g newsgroups! I have for 4 fu*****g years.
If the asterisks are supposed to stand in for letters, what word starts
with "fu", ends with "g", and has 5 letters in between?
It's not the word "fucking", because that only has FOUR letters in
between th "fu" and the "g".
Y'see how you don't express youself clearly?
>
> This is the fact. It might not have been necessary to even
> FORM the newsgroup alt.astrology.metaphsych
It wasn't.
>which most this
> fuss is about, if it were not for the CRAZED, SICK, MENATALITY
> OF PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS.
Well, we've already seen how Ed Wollmann admitted that he created it to
be used as a trap, but that failed.
>
> I see that wben EHW just posts astrology, no attacks,
> no personal remarks, he is CONTINUALLY DENIGRATED.
>
Um, but that's so rare for Ed to post astrology, with no attacks.
Could you point out the astrology content of the following quotes?
They're all by Ed. Thanks!
"I STARTED NOTHING BUT I AM GOING TO END IT.
NO!!!! I am not going to stop anything, I have been taken advantage of,
decieved and abused here, and now that they have made the most
determined person on the planet angry they are going to suffer the
consequesnces. I asked and tried all the polite stuff and was still
abused. Now I shall FORCE the issue to conclusion." -Ed Wollmann
"What the fuck are you talking about drug addict? Are you ODing again on
them?" -Ed Wollmann, the sensitive, nurturing, professional counselor-NOT!
"Why would I have to trust someone to borrow money? " -Ed "the dumbshit" Wollmann
"Well, if this is true, then he is not the friend I have on video
praising my attributes."- Ed, about Noel
HOW DOES IT SERVE YOU TO TELL YOU OF YOUR OUT OF INTEGRITY YOU????
"I have thousands of spam mail complaints I have sent..." -Ed Wollmann
"I thought he was my friend." -Ed 7/20/99 about Tyl, admitting yet
another of his delusions
"Why did you remove metapsych? I will note this." Ed to Gail Klein
"Your days of denigrating people by calling them kooks when they expose
your control freakishness is over people!"
"Maybe next time Mr. Bailey, you might wish to hire a "silly"
professional astrologer like myself to consult before you put up sites"
-Ed Wollmann
"There's not even time for masturbation!" -Ed Wollmann
"Chinese, Japanese, Americanese. Get on them anonym! You lousy
astrologer! Your master calls to you!! Bow!! Come to ME and I will give
YOU a masters course!!!!" -Ed Wollmann
"Its YOUR VENGANCE SEEKING OVERGROWN 5 year old that is wrecking this
group you spoiled abusive arrogant brat. All because he has to go out
and get revenge for your inability to handle your own life, and keep
your legs closed.
Get out. Or post astrology." -Ed Wollmann
"You really don't
think you are explaining something to me-- do you you arrogant fucking
bitch? " -Ed Wollmann
"I will train you or him, there is no test you can construct to test me,
I test you." -Ed Wollmann
"QQQQUUUUAAAAKKKKEEESSSS and FFFFFLLLLLOOOOODDDDSSSS
are DE-structurizing" -Ed Wollmann
"I answered in non-pretyped form. TWICE." -Ed
"Why am I an asshole?" -Ed Wollmann
"Whhat is you moon in?" -Ed
"I have even received letters from confused readers who have purchased
my text and were baffled..." -Ed Wollmann
"Yeah, yeah, yeah Mr. Big man hides behind Deja News." -Ed
"Where do you want to meet? How about the roller coaster-be warned I will
have officers with me." -Ed Wollmann, coward.
"You are abusing this group again asshole. Are you going to put a page up
on yourself ?? You dumb fuck. Why don't you answer the SDSU staff as to
why you put your fucking idiotic page up? I am speaking to the President
of the university soon to have you and Bailey shut down. And ask the
owner's wife how I stood over the little booth at SDSU and told every
single student not to get Aznet-she'll tell you. And everytime they try
to sell accounts there I will stop it. Until your fucking defamation
page comes down-you got that you dumb fuck???
A POST TO NANAU WILL GO FOR EVERY ONE OF YOUR ABUSIVE POSTS--GOT THAT
PUNK?" -Ed Wollmann, peacefully asking to peacefully communicate.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." Ed
Wollmann, liar,
12/7/97
"If you wish to keep trying I am sure someone will. I am leaving town."
Ed
Wollmann, 4/2/98
"Cencorship continues, so here's my last post" - Ed Wollmann, lying
again, 3/18/99
"I am no longer posting and all messages you see are forgeries." Ed
Wollmann,continual liar
5/26/99 (and various dates thereafter)
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/20/99 --Ed Wollmann, proven liar
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/29/99" - Ed Wollmann, pathological liar
"ARCTURUS- ... This star is the center of many solar systems " -Ed the
idiot
"I am going to send complaints to Bellsouth and Pacbell from every
account I can get on thwe (sic) planet."-Ed Wollmann
"Be careful people you have moved right into my grip now".-Ed Wollmann
"I contacted an FBI agent and corruption in the legal system was found."
-Edmo the Paranoid Moron.
YOU imbecile-YOOOOOOUUUUU attacked me-YOUU idiot. I simply talked to a
few people. YOOOOUUU guys are intent on censoring me and removing me
from a public group.-Ed Wollmann
"She gave me nothing-I on the other hand gave her a nice pair of tweety
bird panties, a nice silk get up, and a camping trip to look at the real
constellation of Scorpio." -Ed the tweety bird panty giver.
"I would never do to a past love what you did to me. You are disgusting, and
it will be my pleasure watching you grow old alone." Ed the no-so
sensitive, not-too mature, and unstable nutcase.
"Good thing your opinions are worthless." Ed, being as tolerant as he can
possibly be.
""If you are a male, avoid this viper, she is known as the rich bitch on
the hill." Ed the wierdo.
"I do do laundry. I have to because there will be no females in this house
for the next 20 years." Ed Wollmann, Masturbator.
Your days are numbered..." - Ed Wollmann, threatening again.
S.N.I.P.
Your client continues to yelp, whine, and astro-screed on usenet while
wearing panties on his head in clear violation of any logic. Please take
action.
"...they should be aware that not all customers are
"oh really" people who don't think they know how to read things themselves."
"You need to see a chirpractic perspective adjuster bud." -Edmo
"You insulting fucking bastard." -Ed the "counselor"
"YOU condescending assholes, you are as arrogant as they come aren't you?"
"Perhaps if you could stop judging me for a while and listen to what I
say, you might find I AM walking the talk." -Edmo
"I have the FORESIGHT to KNOW what is going to happen " -Edmo
"Wrong. I am going to SUE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU."
"You do?
Then why were you crowing about me getting kicked off when I wasn't?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH! -nymmie
"The records show that I remove every post from metapsych you abusers
make. This is IRRELEVANT." -Edmo
"When you stop pimping whores, beating your wife, abusing drugs, and are
not forging headers." -Ed Wollmann
"She is the shitball"--Ed Wollmann.
"Tell me people what court would find me guilty of ANYthing?"- Spoken 4
months after being declared GUILTY and CONVICTED of a MISDEMEANOR (Penal
Code VIolation 555, Unlawful Entry) by Ed Wolmann, 10/31 (scary, huh?)
"How does abusing people make them nice?" -Edmo
"Please tell me how aggravating, harassing, spamming, posting off topic,
and violating all of usnet and Southwestbell.net's policies everyday
is>nice or is going to make me "nice"?"-Edmo.
"Now why are you continuing to crosspost to metapsych you fucking
troublemaker!!!" Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Now they are gone and 2 complete imbeciles (Ellis and anonym) have
replaced them, and instead of making it 2 separated groups like I
intended with them spamming this one and those who were serious about
counsel and might wish to discuss with me and others and NOT download
800 "astrology is bunk" posts all day, they try to change the charter
and spam that group WORSE, now YOU LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN GOOD, IF THAT
IS NOT OCD CONTROL FREAKISH BEHAVIOR, YOU BEST GO GET A BOOK AND READ
UP"-
"Losing what you fucking idiot? You've lost it."
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Inconsiderate fucking cynic." Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Whoopdiedoodledaday! Cynics can post all fucking year
-but let me post a couple of remarks and whooooooaaaa!"
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"YOU are a sock puppet you lying piece of shit!"
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"And ugly as fuck to boot!!!"Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"I am unlike anyone you have ever met and ever will-
don't pigeon hole me you son of a bitch!"
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"I am Just analytically correct-
you are ugly as fuck inside and out."
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Now whos the fucking bully asshole?" Edmond
Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Wait till we meet in person ass hole I'll rip you
a new one then too." Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Got a problem with it TV? Killfile me bitch."
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Snipped your 196th spam of you fucking URL I will
never go to and no one gives a shit about."
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
" Get out-if you think I'll ever let go of your ass you've got another
thing
coming." Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
> "I guess when you stop pimping whores, molesting children, forging
> headers, raping and killing people" Edmond Wollmann, unbalanced
> unlicensed fraudulent non-counselor, 6/14/99
"...if the son of a bitch was in front of
me he'd have some bones crushed in his skull as well" --Ed "Sensitive hony
Counselor and Violently-Tempered Kook" Wollmann, PMAFA
"You haven't posted anything but bullshit-the difference between me nd
you idiots is that I can get in a bar brawl (I was a hoodlum biker
for>years) down a 5th of Tequlia, kick the fuck out of you, talk like
this-AND STILL
post something of value, counsel persons and meitate on nature, and do a piece
of art to find center. You see I've been thee done that-I CHOOSE to do
this now."
Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"WHat a buch of out of integrity losesers."-Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Well then, why are these posts an many others being censored from AOL? I
go to AOL and only half (usually my objections) are the only ones that
make it? These guys have the NOCEM affect behind them. I notice now you
are posting from mindspring, which means like the C4A fake you are
trying either to assess me or spin me to protect the abusers. Most
likely then an admin who is biased against me and wants evidence to
further spin me. Most who are posting about astrology to not use tricky
configurations. You guys NOCEM just in case I make sense and you can't
answer and I make you look foolish-which you know will happen if you try
to argue long enough with me." -Edmo, dipping deeeeeeeep into the sweet
nectar of his paranoia....
"It demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt, that without unfair
advantage economically, and by social position, that you and all others
you support in your abuse campaign would have lost your accounts because
of your belief in domination and powerless beliefs that are out of
integrity. "-Edmo 7/14/99
" Perhaps if you could stop judging me for a while and listen to what I
> say, you might find I AM walking the talk." -ed, 7/15/99
"She is the shitball" - Ed Wollmann.
"Now why are you continuing to crosspost to metapsych you fucking
troublemaker!!!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Losing what you fucking idiot? You've lost it." - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Inconsiderate fucking cynic." - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
"Whoopdiedoodledaday! Cynics can post all fucking year -but let me post
a
couple of remarks and whooooooaaaa!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"YOU are a sock puppet you lying piece of shit!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"And ugly as fuck to boot!!!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"I am unlike anyone you have ever met and ever will-
don't pigeon hole me you son of a bitch!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Got a problem with it TV? Killfile me bitch." - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"Snipped your 196th spam of you fucking URL I will never go to and no
one
gives a shit about." - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"GGGGGEEEETTTT IIIIIITTTTT OOOOOUUUUUUTTTTTTT!!!!!" - Edmond Wollmann
P.M.A.F.A
"Get out-if you think I'll ever let go of your ass you've got another
thing
coming." - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"EAT SHIT YOU UGLY BITCH!!!!!!" - Edmond Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
"I have been the man in many women's lives."
"Really Rick, you are the lowest waste of carbon molecules I think
I have ever run across."
"And I said rip you a new one in person as I have on usenet-I
didn't say
what."
"You have made a life enemy, aren't you proud of yourself?"
"I can give nothing"
"SNIP! Of garbage from young punk wet behind the ears."
"And you are full of crap."
"Now wake up and stop it."
"I honor my anger because it is correct."
"I told you my polite days were over."
"you are ugly as fuck inside and out."
"I am a good counselor WITHOUT any degree."
"Wait till we meet in person ass hole I'll rip you a new one then
too."
"I am the richest, most successful person on the planet!
Yeeeeeehaaaaaw!!!"
"I did not you lying B$#%#@#%#!"
"why you can't get a date so you have something to do on Saturday nights
besides chase my posts around"
"You spin doctoring piece of crap"
"SNIP! Of garbage from young punk wet behind the ears."
"And you are full of crap."
"Snipped your 196th spam of you fucking URL I will never go to and no one
gives a shit about."
"you are ugly as fuck inside and out."
"Wait till we meet in person ass hole I'll rip you a new one then too."
"I did not you lying B$#%#@#%#!"
"You are a pile of garbage."
"when do scum deserve any truth"
"Really Rick, you are the lowest waste of carbon molecules I think
I have ever run across."
"WRONG YOU LYING SON OF A BITCH!!!"
"GGGGTGEEEETTTT IIIIITTTTT OOOOUUUUTTT!!!!!"
"Its [sic] not me with OCD Ricky-its you spinics."
"You are a brown nosing and gutless person who seems to have no
principles or guide by which they live-other than agreeing with
everyone."
"First day on campus! AAAAAiiiiiiieeeeee! 30,000 femininas! So little
time!!!!"
"Pam is a slime for supporting anonym"
"Wow another immature ignoamous, why couldn't you explain your point first
before I refute it?"
"LYING DISINGENOUS ABUSER"
"Have you ever had sex or even a woman Ricky?"
"Are you really so stupid and insulting?"
"DISCOVERY is for a criminal case idiot"
"She is the shitball."
"I see Rick Ellis illegally canceled it."
"Forwarded to the state attorney general and my congressman. You screwed
up this time buddy, this is against the law."
"Don't confuse me with the facts. I have groupies."
"Abuser kicked off Pacbell.net, now spamming from Southwest Bell.net."
"I know you are but what am I?"
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=327570875 - Ed flames himself and
tells
himself "NOW PUT A STOP TO IT."
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=491840484 - a quite remarkable post.
Ed
tells himself to act before losing all credibility (you lost that a long
time
ago, Pantyhead), and then threatens to sue himself. What a KOOK!
"Please act before you lose all credibility. And money damages."
anonym™
>
> Clave wrote:
> >
> > By the way, if you actually did submit this to GTE, I expect you to now
> > submit a retraction...<snip>
>
> I didn't write anything to GTE.
>
What part of "if" don't you understand?
Dan Kettler
> Dan Kettler wrote:
> >Okay, I see that NCAT is in the subject header. Well,
> >what *IS* NCAT?
CFA: Your way of getting massive amounts of attention.
DK:.. I don't _need_ attention on USENET. Unlike you, I
..... have a life, jerk!
You bring on the attention, CFA. You constantly, and
obsessively, answer each and every post from me about
the subject of the URL below.
There would not even be 1/4 of the mention of this from me, if not
for your obsessions. The other obsessed fanatics make up another
1/4, which brings it to about 1/2 of the Usenet exposure _because_
of those who object to the URL and mention of it.
Crazy, huh? They fight the mention of the URL, and bring more
mention of it. You do too. What people resist persists.
The more resistance, the more it comes on.
> > Net Censorship and Terrorism
> >
> > http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
If the pages are _so_ incorrect, (like you write) that should be
self-evident to the readers, and there would be no reason for you
to be so obsessed about it?
GOLDSTEIN > >On the cancel.html page:
> >
> >> : It seems
> >> : that if these posts...
DK:.. I covered the above in a post to the writer -- to Goldstein. You
..... are not part of that, meddler, jerk, fool!
<snip>
CFA: > If? Any evidence there, Dan?
DK: Fool, that's not a subject for discussion with you. It
.....has been discussed between you and I, and what discussion
.....we did have, it's in previous posts today, and it's on
.....the /discsens.html pages.
DK: You are a fool, and it shows from a number of your
.....stupid posts. However, this is one of the many
.....indications. You continually try to discuss details
.....with me that I told you I will not discusss any
.....more with you.
DK: As I wrote previously, the reader can determine of what
value the PROOFS are at NCAT. They do not need your writing
of it, nor do they need mine.
TO HG:
> >This is the fact. It might not have been necessary to even
> >FORM the newsgroup alt.astrology.metaphsych which most this
> >fuss is about, if it were not for the CRAZED, SICK, MENATALITY
> >OF PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS.
> >I see that wben EHW just posts astrology, no attacks,
> >no personal remarks, he is CONTINUALLY DENIGRATED.
CFA: Though he posts pure astrology rather less than
......his "other" messages.
DK: I *READ* the newsgroups, have for 4 years. His
"other" are rebuttals.
DK: That EHW and "spam" discussion was with HG. He
.....at least knows something about what he's
writing about. Bye.
<snip>
Dan Kettler
bo...@nospam.vornet.com (Bob Officer)
<384cdef6...@news.supernews.com>
news...@supernews.com
of
...... http://www.psicounsel.com/bobofficer.html
fame
wrote,
...as if much of what he writes is truthful, intelligent,
or of worth to any sensible person:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:49:25 GMT, in alt.astrology hgol...@mpcs.com
> (Howard Goldstein) wrote:
<snip>
BO: No I think down deep [dk]... has some problem understand [ing] the
written word.
BO: Case point one, the FACIM copyright. FACIM requires prior
notification...
Listen, read, observe. I covered that. I put a FAX up on my web site.
The fax is from FACIM. It mentions your name. You got that yet?
I wrote that. You have read parts of my web site, since you have
been quoting it. It's linked from...
http://www.psicounsel.com/spamans1.html
FACIM does not have any problems with my postings of their material.
I wrote that. I proved that. So, if anyone has a problem with the
"written word," it's obviously you.
..... Here's the FAX! -- the FACTS!
http://www.psicounsel.com/facmfax1.jpg
BO: ... of any reprint or quotations of their materials.
DK: See the above FAX from FACIM.
BO: ...the material belongs to someone else...
DK: It's all "fair use," and so you don't understand any law, right?
BO: ...If I owned a car, would sure wouldn't want people
BO: borrowing once every 2 or so weeks to drive where
BO: ever they want.
DK: Quoting from a book is, to you, analogous to borrowing a car?
DK: Get real!
> Case point two, Tim Skirvin's FAQ on Spam is so mangled by Kettler...
Oh, get real... http://www.psicounsel.com/spam.html does not
"mangle" anything.
BO: ...Dan on the other hand has completely screwed it up...
DK: Who screwed with your head?
HG: [dk] increased reliance on Wollmann's mere claims of victimization.
DK: Covered in another post. It's an HG matter, not a BO one.
BO: Now that Wollmann has been offer Timmy Thorne's help,
BO: (with hannigan's backing). We can see a multi pronged
BO: assault coming in the future.
DK: See the /cancel.html page for more from Tim Thorne, about
DK: cancelled posts.
BO: The abuse is about to increase several fold.
DK: There is no abuse from EHW or myself. We are
DK: here defending our rights, and those of other
DK: proponents of the paranormal/astrology.
DK: The abuse comes from PSEUDO-SKEPTIC-FANATICS who
DK: attempt censorship and terrorism, as proven here...
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
Lou Minatti™
> How about NCAT? Anyone reading that, looking carefully
> at the
> dictionary references, the links to
> other sites
> about Net Censorship, will see I
> correctly interpret
> both "censorship" and "terrorism" and
> that NOTHING
> IS "MADE UP" since there are proofs
> shown with
> links to DEJANEWS archived posts.
>
> How about what the "skepticult" is... shown and proven
> at...
>
> http://www.psicounsel.com/skeporg.html (you may have
> to use DEJANEWS
> and some time
> to prove it)
>
> Let's see, "skepticult" is a word, which the DEJANEWS
> archives show,
> I coined. Then a bunch of people decided to become
> "skepticultists"
> with a web site: www.skepticult.org
DAN, I'm curious as to why you format your messages like this. This
formatting makes you appear, well, incoherent. Can you please explain?
Thanks.
--
Happy Holidays from SpOOk Central!
http://www.watchingyou.com
"I am the James Bond of astrologers." - Edmond Heinz Wollmann
Lou Minatti™
>
> jfred wrote:
>
> > ...You can't can't go anywhere around here without tripping over the evidence!
>
> Which evidence?
DWFP = DAN's weirdly-formatted posts
Your wacko messages are a pretty good start. Why doo you apply you
Incoherentizer™ to all of your messages?
Lou Minatti™
SNIP!
After two weeks, it looks like DAN has fully recharged! Are your kook
cells recharged via solar power, or doo your handlers just plug you in?
I would like to buy you an AC adapter so that you can kook continuously.
Lou Minatti™
>
> Roachie <r...@think.different> wrote in message news:82a7bj$f9i$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
> > roachie-
> > pweeese? I wanna be in the Skep-Ti-Cult.. I'm eveil. I'm sick. I'm Vile.
> > I'm Texan. <sniff, sniff. rejection>
>
> Trans: The Skepti's Stonwall racists. ( Yay! )
Buy yourself a dictionary, Luci. While you're at it, buy yourself a
clue.
anonym™
>
> Bob Officer
>
> bo...@nospam.vornet.com (Bob Officer)
> <384cdef6...@news.supernews.com>
> news...@supernews.com
>
> of
>
> ...... http://www.psicounsel.com/bobofficer.html
>
> fame
You motherfucker! Where's *MY* page, you underage child-luring,
titty-trolling, bald, incoherent, criminally fraudulent, bankrupt,
stupid, paranoid fat fuck!
...
>
> > Case point two, Tim Skirvin's FAQ on Spam is so mangled by Kettler...
>
> Oh, get real... http://www.psicounsel.com/spam.html does not
> "mangle" anything.
Sure it does. You chop up posts and string together quotes from
different posts and mangle the fuck out of what someone said.
...
>
> DK: There is no abuse from EHW or myself.
Then why are you the assholes who have lost nearly 20 ISP accounts
between you?
anonym™
>
> CFA wrote:
>
> > Dan Kettler wrote:
>
> > >Okay, I see that NCAT is in the subject header. Well,
> > >what *IS* NCAT?
>
> CFA: Your way of getting massive amounts of attention.
>
> DK:.. I don't _need_ attention on USENET.
Yeah! He needs it on his WEBSITE!
> Unlike you, I
> ..... have a life, jerk!
>
BWAHAHAHAHAH!
/Burgess Meredith mode ON
You call that livin'?
It's a *WASTE* OF LIFE!
/OFF
Glen Quarnstrom
>I'm beginning to think he doesn't get much of what he writes, either.
KettleBanger doesn't get much. Period.
HTH
--
"I do not permit excess verbiage on my web site. I don't want
readers to fall asleep, so I leave in what is essential.
---BruDan pins the Irony Meter
anonym™
>
> In article <384ADF62...@psicounsel.com>, d...@psicounsel.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >There's a wide, expansive, space on the INTERNET. Why
> >alt.astrology.metapsych for PSF to demand charters about,
> >to demand the "right" to harass astrologers in?
> >
>
> you?
>
> I'm interested to know why, despite the incoherent garbage you wrote above,
> people ought not to think you're incoherent.
>
> Please explain.
>
> In English.
>
> Thanks.
>
> <snip>
.............Perhaps
...........Dan should
............have used more
............periods.
Clave
news:384bf7f5....@news.supernews.com...
> On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:41:13 -0800, in alt.astrology anonymT
> <ano...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Dan Kettler wrote:
> >>
> >> Clave wrote:
> >> >
> >> > By the way, if you actually did submit this to GTE, I expect you to
now
> >> > submit a retraction...<snip>
> >>
> >> I didn't write anything to GTE.
> >>
> >
> >What part of "if" don't you understand?
>
I'm beginning to think he doesn't get much of what he writes, either.
Jim
Tom Kerr
Tom Kerr
In article <384A6BB0...@psicounsel.com>, d...@psicounsel.com wrote:
>Tom Kerr wrote:
<snip>
>In answer to your question, which is fully explained and proven
>at the above URL, one additional part of that answer is that
>your former avoidance of it after our last exchange, indicates
>you are a deceptive spin doctor.
Our last "exchange" ended with the following post from me:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=553229588
....
In article <383d55d9...@news.compuserve.com>,
dan@psicounselSPAM_BLOCK.com wrote:
>
>Tom Kerr is a word-twisting propagandist, and one major activity of
>his on USENET is LYING DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER.
>
>Use DEJANEWS to verify this fact. Replies to his posts prove he is
>deceptive, because the facts in those replies are verifiable on
>USENET.
Please post some examples.
(PPSE)
<snip>
....
You never replied to that post, which, by your *own* definition, indicates you
are a deceptive spin doctor.
Talking about avoidance, perhaps you would like to explain your own avoidence
of the following post:
http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=556784671
DAN?
Dan Pressnell
>
> <aam snipped>
>
> Howard Goldstein
>
> of http://www.psicounsel.com/goldstein.html fame
>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 05:11:32 -0500, CFA, @. <CFA,@.> wrote:
> > : CFA: Well, I took a peek ...
> > :
> > : http://www.psicoBOOM
>
> what *IS* NCAT?
It WAS just "Skep-Ti-Cult Business," but you stuck a bunch of your kooky
stuff in the subject!
Dan
Tom Kerr
In article <384B13...@budweiser.com>, loumi...@budweiser.com wrote:
>DAN Kettler wrote:
>SNIP!
>
>After two weeks, it looks like DAN has fully recharged! Are your kook
>cells recharged via solar power, or doo your handlers just plug you in?
>I would like to buy you an AC adapter so that you can kook continuously.
>
It's possible to overcharge batteries. I've seen it done myself and you can
get some really odd effects. The strangest occurrence I've seen was when my
cellular phoned itself.
--
"Well, I am a skeptic, and I'm not credulous." - DAN
Clave
news:384B6735...@pacbell.net...
>
> ...........Dan should
>
>
> ............have used more
> ............periods.
I think
he
could
have been
more
creative with
his
indenting.
Jim
Jon Walsh
(From http://skepticult.org/cult/faq.html)
SKEP-TI-CULT® Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
This document will serve the purpose of answering the most often asked
questions about the organization and dispelling some of the common myths that
the whackjob faction would have you believe about us. It will probably be
revised quite frequently as I think of new items, so make sure you are viewing
the current version. If you have any suggestions for additions, please send
them to pro...@skepticult.org.
1. What is the SKEP-TI-CULT®?
The CULT® is a militant anti-kook organization with the duel goals of
eliminating idiocy and promoting free speech for everyone including those
idiots. We are comprised of both self-proclaimed psychics, and die hard
skeptics with a chikken sacrificer thrown in for good measure. Our members
range in age from high school to crazy old coots. Well, only one crazy old
coot. According to the kookiest Kook on the net
(May 1997 Kook of the Month, and 1997 Kook of the Year, Bruce Daniel Kettler)
we are "brainwashed computer generated clones" and "fanatical maniacs."
Whichever definition you choose, I'm sure there is something for you here.
2. Why was the CULT® formed?
The CULT® was formed because the Pink Father (an endearing term for BDK,
bestowed upon him because of his exceptionally rosy bald pate.) demanded it.
Bruce Daniel Kettler complained frequently that a cult of skeptics was
attempting to censor, defame, harrass, and discredit him. I formed the CULT®
as a joke to goof on him, and it has since grown into the monster that you
see today.
3. Who came up with the name "SKEP-TI-CULT®"?
Bruce Daniel Kettler came up with the word. We began using it in jest, and
added the now familiar ® symbol to it because of many posts where he claimed
"SKEP-TI-CULT -- Mine all mine." It's a joke. He later actually claimed that
it is a registered trademark of his, but despite several requests for
verification he has failed to back this up, and I haven't seen him mention
it again. If anyone has the means to verify this for me, I'd be interested
in knowing the truth.
4. Who is Bruce Daniel Kettler?
BDK is a well know internet kook. He won the prestigous kook of the month
award for May, 1997, and the Kook of the Year for 1997. He is also a recipient
of Dr. Digger's Angstrom award. He is Queen of alt.paranormal, and Village
Idiot of alt.fan.art-bell. He is a known spammer, often making 15+ and 35+
post multi-posts to unrelated groups asking for help when he is getting
his ass kicked on usenet. He is notorious for posting commercial ads to
unrelated groups, included alt.personals.teen, where he solicited teens
to buy psychic readings and contractual web services from him without
parental permission. At the time this happened he also was displaying
large pink breasts all over his webpage. He has permanently altered
alt.paranormal by attracting hoardes of skeptics to it when he attempted
to character assassinate them without their knowledge. He is 56 years old,
but appears to have the mind of a 15 year old. He runs "Psi Counsel, Inc.,"
a psychic advice service. He claims to test his psychics, but refuses to
say how, even in the face of evidence that he doesn't test them. He is the
reason the CULT® was formed, and for that we are eternally grateful.
He viciously attacks anyone who disagrees with him, claiming that they
started it. In fact, usenet archives show that Dan's first usenet posts were
unprovoked attacks. He has no clue how usenet works, yet attempts to write
newsgroup faqs, and dicatate over unmoderated groups. He advocates censoring
those who do not hold his opinions. That's our Dan.
5. You really seem to hate that guy.
That's pity, not hate.
6. Do you guys really brainwash people?
Go to our brainwashing chamber and find out.
7. If I join, do I have to get a funny haircut or hang out at airports?
No. We have also been suicide free for a while now.
8. Do I have to go to meetings or anything?
If you want to organize a meeting, feel free. Make sure you provide fermented
refreshments for all of us to enjoy, and remove all of the breakable and/or
valuable items from the meeting place.
9. So is this a real cult or a joke? I'm confused.
Yes, you are. Luckily for you we'll accept anyone with open arms. Especially
if you have a lot of cool stuff, and maybe a nice car, or a lot of rich
friends. After a thorough brainwashing and CULT® indoctrination, I'm sure
you will be less confused about our organization. We can't tell you any of
our Sooper Sekrit stuff until you have signed up. We have around 300 members
at the present time. (I believe the real number is like 700 now, but there's
no telling until I process the apps. --FL)
10. How much does it cost to sign up?
Nothing. We're like the tollway, you don't have to pay until you leave.
Join now. You know you want to.
11. So if I join up can I be your friend?
If you are an idiot, no.
12. Am I an idiot?
If you have to ask...
13. So where do you guys hang out? If we're going to be friends we have to
hang out.
The Usenet groups alt.fan.art-bell, alt.paranormal, and sci.skeptic
would be good places to start. If you prefer real time interaction I advise
that you check out our IRC (Internet Relay Chat.) page.
14. Okay, sounds good, how can I get more information?
Well, if you don't believe what you've read here, you probably aren't
going to believe anything else we tell you. Try asking on one of those
newsgroups, IRC, or write me directly. I'm more than happy to answer email as
long as you aren't trying to show me how to "Make Money Fast."
--
Jon Walsh
pro...@skepticult.org
http://skepticult.org
"Now, with older stuff!"