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Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black! (#1 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:00:08 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

Yes they do have satellites in space. The tracking devise is intended to
allow them to beam my lungs so I will get lung cancer. I have aluminum foil
rapped around my chest. When it is rapped that way I do not cough and
wheeze. By the way the Stealth fighter on display at Wright Patterson
Airforce Base Museum isn’t even a real Stealth Fighter. The real Stealth
Fighter has over lapping layers of Black and White tiles. Flat black, glossy
white. Flat black absorbs, glossy white reflects. It traps the signal on the
inside so it can’t get out. I have a transmitter in my but also. Just
wearing white thermal underwear and black clothes over it is enough to foil
their instruments. The signal can not get out. Even better, spray paint your
black clothes with that flat black heat resistant paint. If you have a
transmitter that they inject that lodges itself in your brain then wear the
aluminum foil on your head. By the way. If they come out with planes to try
and knock out your computer then give them a little surprise by putting a
mirror on top of your tower. :-) If they send planes out to shine the
focused gas lights on you then get the mirror from your medicine cabinet and
it will be a shield. Point the mirror at the plane that is shining the light
at you. The Sheriff department in Clark County OH wears white underneath and
black uniforms. This started with the occult. Druids, Catholic Priest, now
the government and psychiatric workers. The Amish as well. They are not as
innocent as they seam. They are very occultic. They build round barns in the
belief that an evil spirit will trap them in a corner. They also placed
occultic round things on the side of their barns. You can’t serve two
masters. To neither you would be fair. If you are worshiping both Lucifer
and Jehovah God then your really worshipping Lucifer. Jerry Newport of
Madison County Psychiatric system used to come out harassing me and my
family in his attempt to get me placed on the psychiatric unit. One day me
and my mother refused to answer the door so he walked around the house
trying to look in the windows. Me and my family were being beamed at this
time and ever time old Jerry Newport came out he was dressed in black. EVERY
TIME! All the psychiatric workers I have seen nearly are all a bunch of New
Agers or Wiccans. Are you starting to get the picture? Can you see who the
real men and black are? Most psychiatrist are self proclaimed Marxist. I
have been beamed a lot already. I hope I don’t get lung cancer. This
incident with Jerry Newport who used to work for Clark County Mental Health
happened at the same time the planes came out to New Carlisle for the first
time. Jerry was concerned that I was staying at my parents house at that
time. It was because my parents would be exposed as well as the children.
Heck the Evil Empire doesn’t care who they hurt as long as they get their
man. Lot’s of people have been exposed including Dr. Nash’s brother Greg
Nash. They are probably unaware though that they have been exposed. I would
position myself between Greg’s house and the C 141 Starlifter flying in a
circle around me. Who do you think is more evil? The USA/Great Britain
Anglo-American duel world power or Saddam Hussein? Difficult choice. By the
way they are even using commercial airplanes with gas lights to get me. That
is just how wide spread the conspiracy is now. Stealth technology is based
on the Occult. This technology is mostly being handed to man from Satan
during dreams that people have at night. I thought I invented a gravity
calculating machine in my sleep that would make it possible to make planes
that work with gravity instead of against it. I realize Satan gave it to me
hoping I would join the Evil Empire and get rich of it. It is a hollow ball
like a hamster ball filled with mercury or some other liquid on top of a
spindle and rotated rapidly. The mercury moves upward through centrifugal
force and using scanning lasers which scan the mercury in triangulated
patterns around the sphere with the data fed into a computer using various
variables like mass of the Earth, Mass of the Sun, Mass of the Moon and Mass
of the Planets and their moons. Also atmospheric pressure, weight of the
mercury and the temperature because mercury expands and contacts with heat
and cold one could calculate the data necessary to make planes that work
with gravity instead of against it. This machine must be placed on one of
the poles. The south pole is the best choice. Airforce psychiatrist at Twin
Valley Psychiatric Center in Dayton Ohio stole my idea. A special Airforce
psychiatrist came and talked to me for a half hour in the presence of the
medical director of this State institution. After the half hour was up the
medical director told him “Your time is up”. Then they sat and talked about
me for a two hours in that little room. Strangely he resembled the CIA
psychiatrist that played the part in the movie Conspiracy Theory. When I
told this man I was a Jehovah’s Witnesses he gasped. I didn’t discuss
ANYTHING with him of a sensitive nature that they could use against me to
keep me in the institution. All I know is that the man came from Wright
Patterson Airforce Base and he wore a trench coat and he was out of uniform.
He may have been CIA for all I know. One of the Airforce psychiatrist that
was seeing “patient” there asked me if my Gravity Calculating Machine could
be placed on the North Pole. I told him that I guess it could be placed on
something like a oil rig. Motion monitors would have to be used in the
calculations as well or else use heavy stabilizers. An oil rig platform
would not be stable enough I don’t think so the best choice is the South
Pole. Since I refuse to work for anything but civilian projects and not
military my invention was stolen and I will never see a red cent from it.
Thieves! Stealth technology is based on the occult and now you know who the
men in black really are! Of course the flat angles on the Stealth fighter
are part of it two. Reflecting the signals in one direction instead of
dispersing in all directions. That is why if you shine a flash light into a
mirror it will reflect at an angle in a solid beam. A spherical mirror would
reflect in all directions. By the way the military is using water fuel
technology as well. The military’s biggest problem with tanks was heavy
consumption of fuel and the problems associated with refueling. They are now
making tanks that burn the hydrogen from water and they can even fill up on
sea water because the canister can be cleaned and reused. The electrodes
down in the water separate the oxygen from the hydrogen and the hydrogen is
used as fuel. Another thing. The Stealth Fighter can muffle it’s jets so it
is barely audible. Me and my nephew saw it fly over my parents house at
night before the planes came out that first time at night with those C 141
Starlifters with the focused gas lights that produce more then just visible
light!

Now Click on the link below for more shocking information!
www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

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The Transmitter in my Spine is powerful. (#2 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:09:15 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com


Only Aluminum foil has foiled their satilites. But it is hard to keep it
rapped around my chest. I wish I had aluminum foil mylar mesh clothing. By
the way, the beams that they beam at me are not simply microwaves. More like
gamma rays or some other ionizing radiation. At least the space rays that
make me cough and wheeze. The fucused gas lights on their planes are of
another nature. They make you confused and disoriented. Wear alumium foil
under your hat.

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Shiney Side Up! (#3 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 8:36:08 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

Wear it shiny side up.

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More Info in This Link Too. (#4 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 17:11:15 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

:-) Praise Jehovah may your name be sanctified! The Bible says that "they
shall have to know that I am Jehovah"!
www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=445&mmark=all

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Mormans Also Are Men In Black! (#5 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 18:02:58 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com


Mormanism was started by a Freemason during the time when Masonry was in
disrepute. See info in this link! And you got to watch out for Seventh Day
Adventist they are also New Age vegitarians. And the religion was started by
a WOMAN!
www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/mormonism.htm

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Mormans Also Are Men In Black! (#6 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 18:03:43 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com


Mormanism was started by a Freemason during the time when Masonry was in
disrepute. They send their young men out dressed in black suits with white
shirts. See info in this link! And you got to watch out for Seventh Day
Adventist they are also New Age vegitarians. And the religion was started by
a WOMAN!
www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/mormonism.htm

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Joseph Smith was a Freemason that Came Out of the Closet (#7 of 16)
Jerry Smith 4256896 - Wed Dec 23 19:16:54 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com


He openly revieled many of the Freemasons true feelings that so alarmed the
"christians" that he and his followers had to head out west.

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But of Cource Like They Say (#8 of 16)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Thu Dec 24 1:43:58 1998
New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

You do not find out that Mormans actually worship Lucifer untill you get to
the top of the ranks.
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Samuel A. Moser AKA Jerry Newport

Jerry Newport

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Where I Stand On "Evolution". (#1 of 2)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 18:55:20 1998

New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

It is hard to get everything written down when they keep beaming me with
ionizing radiation from space as I sit in front of my computer. Also they
have sent out their planes with their microwave electromagnetic giant
focused "flashlights" to try to make me disoriented and confused so I would
get institutionalized. I just wore aluminum foil on my head shiny side up
and carried a mirror and used it as a Shield. They would team up on me by
getting on both sides of me. After I posted that post "Secrets of Stealth
Technology and the Men in Black" dozens of planes came from Wright Patterson
Airforce Base and/or Dayton International Airport irradiating me with their
lights that shine like big stars. The ignorant have come to the wrong
conclusion and are saying they have seen "UFOs". The CIA/Airforce sent out a
big Stealth plane shaped like a boomerang twice to fly over my apartment and
my parents house to take MRI photographs of the dwellings for intelligence
gathering. The plane is bigger then a Stealth Fighter but much smaller then
a Stealth Bomber. They have recently declassified this plane only because I
witnessed it. There is no hollow earth. This theory promotes the false
doctrine of Hell fire and torment for the wicked. I have nothing against
Chinese Herbal medicine except when it is used in spiritism. I do not know
who Stephen Jay Gould is so I can not make any comments until I investigate.
The link below explains where I stand on evolution.

Samuel A. Moser AKA Jerry Newport

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How to Wear Aluminum Foil (#2 of 2)
Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 19:00:02 1998


New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

Just place it over your head and mold to fit. Then put on your hat.
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Jerry Newport

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We want more Jerry Newport
Societal Decoy 9211730 - Mon Dec 28 19:00:02 1998 Whiteland,

Sir

I want more of your interesting theories. Please don't hold back. Post
everything you have. I cannot get enough. What do you think about the
hollow earth theory? What about Evolution? What about Stephen Jay Gould?
What is your opinion about Chinese Herbal meds?

Go for it Jerry

A BIGGGGGG FANNNN
Societal Decoy

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Where I Stand On "Evolution". (#1 of 2)

Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 18:55:20 1998


New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

It is hard to get everything written down when they keep beaming me with


ionizing radiation from space as I sit in front of my computer. Also they
have sent out their planes with their microwave electromagnetic giant
focused "flashlights" to try to make me disoriented and confused so I would
get institutionalized. I just wore aluminum foil on my head shiny side up
and carried a mirror and used it as a Shield. They would team up on me by
getting on both sides of me. After I posted that post "Secrets of Stealth
Technology and the Men in Black" dozens of planes came from Wright Patterson
Airforce Base and/or Dayton International Airport irradiating me with their
lights that shine like big stars. The ignorant have come to the wrong
conclusion and are saying they have seen "UFOs". The CIA/Airforce sent out a
big Stealth plane shaped like a boomerang twice to fly over my apartment and
my parents house to take MRI photographs of the dwellings for intelligence
gathering. The plane is bigger then a Stealth Fighter but much smaller then
a Stealth Bomber. They have recently declassified this plane only because I
witnessed it. There is no hollow earth. This theory promotes the false
doctrine of Hell fire and torment for the wicked. I have nothing against
Chinese Herbal medicine except when it is used in spiritism. I do not know
who Stephen Jay Gould is so I can not make any comments until I investigate.
The link below explains where I stand on evolution.

Samuel A. Moser AKA Jerry Newport

www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

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How to Wear Aluminum Foil (#2 of 2)

Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 19:00:02 1998


New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

Just place it over your head and mold to fit. Then put on your hat.
www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

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HOT DAMN! I didn't think I'd be the first to point this out but...
...YOU MISSPELLED TECHNOLOGY, YOU UNEDUCATED RAVING IDIOT!

(gawd, that felt good!)

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Jerry Newport

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I suggest that you read my report on Psychiatric drugs that you can find in
the link off that post before dissing me as a unintellectual! One misspelled
word does not an idiot make!

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Here you go. Scroll thill you find it.

Jerry Newport


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Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>
Subject: Re: Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black!

> I suggest that you read my report on Psychiatric drugs that you can
> find in the link off that post before dissing me as a unintellectual!
> One misspelled word does not an idiot make!

OK, how many misspelled words and grammatical errors does it take to make
you an idiot? Let's examine your original article(s), shall we?

> >Jerry Newport wrote:

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>>> Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black! (#1 of 16)

[Technology] We already know about that one.

>>> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:00:08 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
>>>
>>> Yes they do have satellites in space. The tracking devise is intended

[device]


>>> to allow them to beam my lungs so I will get lung cancer. I have
>>> aluminum foil rapped around my chest. When it is rapped that way I do

[wrapped] I'll only count this as 1.[wrapped]

>>> not cough and wheeze. By the way the Stealth fighter on display at
>>> Wright Patterson Airforce Base Museum isn’t even a real Stealth
>>> Fighter.

The aircraft on display at Wright Patterson AFB is the "Have Blue" proof
of concept demonstrator that was built to show that stealth technology
would work. It is smaller than the F-117, and has no RAM on the outside.

>>> The real Stealth Fighter has over lapping layers of Black and

[overlapping] one word [black]
>>> White tiles.
[white] Colors aren't capitalized.

No, it has RAM (Radar Absorbent Material) on the outside of a classified
composite skin. The skin and RAM do work together to trap radar waves,
but it has *nothing* to do with their color. The F-117 is painted black
because the USAF brass thought that it was a sexy color for a stealth
fighter. Lockheed wanted to paint it gray, which is less visible at
night than a total black.

> Flat black, glossy white. Flat black absorbs, glossy white reflects.

Only in the visible spectrum. The 2 colors are equally transparent to
microwaves, which is what radar uses.

>>> It traps the signal on the inside so it can’t get out.

It traps *part* of the signal, especially any that might penetrate the
skin and be reflected off of the plane's internal parts.

>>> I have a transmitter in my but also. Just wearing white thermal

[butt], if you're talking about your ass.


>>> underwear and black clothes over it is enough to foil their
>>> instruments. The signal can not get out.

Then their instruments must work in the visible spectrum, since radio
waves go right through cloth, regardless of its color.

>>> Even better, spray paint your black clothes with that flat black heat
>>> resistant paint. If you have a transmitter that they inject that
>>> lodges itself in your brain then wear the aluminum foil on your head.

Why not just use it to line a baseball cap? That way, you don't look
like an idiot. 8-]

>>> By the way. If they come out with planes to try and knock out your
>>> computer then give them a little surprise by putting a mirror on top
>>> of your tower. :-)

Why? So they can look at themselves? A mirror only works on visible
light, just like your black & white clothing. It would not affect
microwaves or other EMR frequencies.

>>> If they send planes out to shine the focused gas lights on you then
>>> get the mirror from your medicine cabinet and it will be a shield.

Gas lights. Haven't they discovered electricity? 8-]

>>> Point the mirror at the plane that is shining the light at you.
>>> The Sheriff department in Clark County OH wears white underneath
>>> and black uniforms.

Gee, they wear white underwear. Now, who'd have ever thought of that?

>>> This started with the occult. Druids, Catholic Priest, now
>>> the government and psychiatric workers. The Amish as well. They are
>>> not as innocent as they seam. They are very occultic. They build

[seem]


>>> round barns in the belief that an evil spirit will trap them in a
>>> corner. They also placed occultic round things on the side of their
>>> barns. You can’t serve two masters. To neither you would be fair.
>>> If you are worshiping both Lucifer and Jehovah God then your really

[worshipping]
>>> worshipping Lucifer.

If you believe in God, then you also belive in the Devil, right? You
worship one, and the other is your enemy. Where's the problem?

>>> Jerry Newport of Madison County Psychiatric system used to come out
>>> harassing me and my family in his attempt to get me placed on the
>>> psychiatric unit.

It's a pity he failed. You really do seem to need some help.

>>> One day me and my mother refused to answer the door so he walked

[my mother and I]


>>> around the house trying to look in the windows. Me and my family were

[My family and I]


>>> being beamed at this time and ever time old Jerry Newport came out he
>>> was dressed in black. EVERY TIME!

The guy's a consistent dresser. He should have been an undertaker. 8-]

>>> All the psychiatric workers I have seen nearly are all a bunch of
>>> New Agers or Wiccans. Are you starting to get the picture? Can you
>>> see who the real men and black are?

I think they inhabit your dreams.

>>> Most psychiatrist are self proclaimed Marxist.

Wow! Where'd you get that one?

>>> I have been beamed a lot already. I hope I don’t get lung cancer.

Is that Jim Beam that you get "beamed" with? If so, I'd worry more about
pserosis of the liver than lung cancer. 8-]

>>> This incident with Jerry Newport who used to work for Clark County
>>> Mental Health happened at the same time the planes came out to New
>>> Carlisle for the first time. Jerry was concerned that I was staying
>>> at my parents house at that time. It was because my parents would be

[parents']


>>> exposed as well as the children.

Exposed to you? Now *that's* scary.

>>> Heck the Evil Empire doesn’t care who they hurt as long as they get
>>> their man. Lot’s of people have been exposed including Dr. Nash’s
>>> brother Greg Nash. They are probably unaware though that they have
>>> been exposed. I would position myself between Greg’s house and the C
>>> 141 Starlifter flying in a circle around me. Who do you think is more
>>> evil? The USA/Great Britain Anglo-American duel world power or Saddam

[dual], if you mean 2.


>>> Hussein? Difficult choice. By the way they are even using commercial
>>> airplanes with gas lights to get me. That is just how wide spread
>>> the conspiracy is now. Stealth technology is based on the Occult.

[occult]


>>> This technology is mostly being handed to man from Satan during
>>> dreams that people have at night. I thought I invented a gravity
>>> calculating machine in my sleep that would make it possible to make
>>> planes that work with gravity instead of against it. I realize Satan
>>> gave it to me hoping I would join the Evil Empire and get rich of it.
>>> It is a hollow ball like a hamster ball filled with mercury or some
>>> other liquid on top of a spindle and rotated rapidly. The mercury
>>> moves upward through centrifugal force and using scanning lasers
>>> which scan the mercury in triangulated patterns around the sphere
>>> with the data fed into a computer using various variables like mass
>>> of the Earth, Mass of the Sun, Mass of the Moon and Mass of the

[mass] [mass] [masses]


>>> Planets and their moons. Also atmospheric pressure, weight of the

[planets]


>>> mercury and the temperature because mercury expands and contacts with

[contracts]


>>> heat and cold one could calculate the data necessary to make planes
>>> that work with gravity instead of against it. This machine must be
>>> placed on one of the poles. The south pole is the best choice.

Why, because it's colder?

>>> Airforce psychiatrist at Twin Valley Psychiatric Center in Dayton
>>> Ohio stole my idea. A special Airforce psychiatrist came and talked
>>> to me for a half hour in the presence of the medical director of this
>>> State institution. After the half hour was up the medical director
>>> told him “Your time is up”. Then they sat and talked about me for a
[]
>>> two hours in that little room. Strangely he resembled the CIA
>>> psychiatrist that played the part in the movie Conspiracy Theory.
>>> When I told this man I was a Jehovah’s Witnesses he gasped. I didn’t
>>> discuss ANYTHING with him of a sensitive nature that they could use
>>> against me to keep me in the institution. All I know is that the man
>>> came from Wright Patterson Airforce Base and he wore a trench coat
>>> and he was out of uniform.

He was probably a civilian. We have those at Tinker AFB too.

>>> He may have been CIA for all I know. One of the Airforce psychiatrist
>>> that was seeing “patient” there asked me if my Gravity Calculating
>>> Machine could be placed on the North Pole. I told him that I guess it
>>> could be placed on something like a oil rig. Motion monitors would

[an]


>>> have to be used in the calculations as well or else use heavy
>>> stabilizers.

I think that *you* need some "heavy stabilizers". 8-]

>>> An oil rig platform would not be stable enough I don’t think so the
>>> best choice is the South Pole. Since I refuse to work for anything
>>> but civilian projects and not military my invention was stolen and I
>>> will never see a red cent from it.

>>> Thieves! Stealth technology is based on the occult and now you know
>>> who the men in black really are! Of course the flat angles on the
>>> Stealth fighter are part of it two. Reflecting the signals in one

[too]


>>> direction instead of dispersing in all directions.

Or, more specifically, reflecting the signal *away* from its source,
instead of back toward it.

>>> That is why if you shine a flash light into a mirror it will reflect
>>> at an angle in a solid beam. A spherical mirror would reflect in all
>>> directions. By the way the military is using water fuel technology as
>>> well. The military’s biggest problem with tanks was heavy consumption
>>> of fuel and the problems associated with refueling. They are now
>>> making tanks that burn the hydrogen from water and they can even fill
>>> up on sea water because the canister can be cleaned and reused. The

[cannister]


>>> electrodes down in the water separate the oxygen from the hydrogen
>>> and the hydrogen is used as fuel.

The process of electrolysis has been known for hundreds of years. The
problem is that it takes more electricity to separate the 2 gasses
(hydrogen and oxygen) than you can generate from burning them again. So,
you have to put more energy into the thing than you get out.

>>> Another thing. The Stealth Fighter can muffle it’s jets so it
>>> is barely audible.

Both the F-117 and the B-2 have the engines buried inside the fuselage,
and both of them have the exhaust diffused, but neither of them is
totally silent. In fact, the F-117 is pretty damned noisy, on takeoffs.

>>> Me and my nephew saw it fly over my parents house at night before the
>>> planes came out that first time at night with those C 141
>>> Starlifters with the focused gas lights that produce more then just
>>> visible light!

Ah, they make other frequencies of EMR? Which ones?

>>> Now Click on the link below for more shocking information!
>>> www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

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>>> The Transmitter in my Spine is powerful. (#2 of 16)


>>> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:09:15 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

>>> Only Aluminum foil has foiled their satilites. But it is hard to keep

[satellites]


>>> it rapped around my chest. I wish I had aluminum foil mylar mesh

[wrapped]


>>> clothing. By the way, the beams that they beam at me are not simply
>>> microwaves. More like gamma rays or some other ionizing radiation.

Gamma rays can only be produced from nuclear reactions, like radioactive
decay, nuclear bombs, or particle accelerators. X-rays would be more
believable, and they can ionize also.

>>> At least the space rays that make me cough and wheeze. The fucused

[focused]


>>> gas lights on their planes are of another nature. They make you
>>> confused and disoriented.

No, they make *you* confused and disoriented, and since you are that way
already, they don't even have to be turned on. 8-]

>>> Wear alumium foil under your hat.

Will that make my hair grow back? 8-]

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>>> Shiney Side Up! (#3 of 16)
> >> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 8:36:08 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
>>>
>>> Wear it shiny side up.

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>>> More Info in This Link Too. (#4 of 16)


>>> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 17:11:15 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

>>> :-) Praise Jehovah may your name be sanctified! The Bible says that
>>> "they shall have to know that I am Jehovah"!
>>> www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=445&mmark=all

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>>> Mormans Also Are Men In Black! (#5 of 16)


>>> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 18:02:58 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
>>>
>>> Mormanism was started by a Freemason during the time when Masonry
>>> was in disrepute. See info in this link! And you got to watch out for
>>> Seventh Day Adventist they are also New Age vegitarians. And the

[vegetarians]


>>> religion was started by a WOMAN!

Oh, God. Anything started by a woman must be evil, huh? 8-]

>>> www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/mormonism.htm

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>>> Mormans Also Are Men In Black! (#6 of 16)
> >> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 18:03:43 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

>>> Mormanism was started by a Freemason during the time when Masonry was
>>> in disrepute.

You said that already.

>>> They send their young men out dressed in black suits with white
>>> shirts. See info in this link!

That's called a "uniform".

>>> And you got to watch out for Seventh Day Adventist they are also New
>>> Age vegitarians. And the religion was started by a WOMAN!

You said that already too.

> >> www.bloomington.in.us/~lgthscac/mormonism.htm

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>>> Joseph Smith was a Freemason that Came Out of the Closet (#7 of 16)
>>> Jerry Smith 4256896 - Wed Dec 23 19:16:54 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

>>> He openly revieled many of the Freemasons true feelings that so

[reviled/revealed] I'm not sure which you mean here.


>>> alarmed the "christians" that he and his followers had to head out
>>> west.

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>>> But of Cource Like They Say (#8 of 16)
[course]


>>> Jerry Newport 2865600 - Thu Dec 24 1:43:58 1998
>>> New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

>>> You do not find out that Mormans actually worship Lucifer untill you

[until]


>>> get to the top of the ranks.

I thought that was the Scientologists. 8-]

>>> www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=445&mmark=all

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>>> Samuel A. Moser AKA Jerry Newport

>>> SNIPPED SOME QUOTES <<<

Well, here's the score. After the large number of misspelled words and
errors in grammar do not make you an idiot. On the other hand, they do
indicate that you didn't pay too much attention in grade school.

As for the actual content of this article, you are not well versed in
military technology or the laws of physics. Also, I think it's safe to
say that you are a paranoid schizophrenic. Don't worry though, this
isn't the looniest stuff I've read on USENET, and an airplane load of
Thorazine would probably fix you right up.

Richard

BlueBird

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On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:43:44 -0500, "Jerry Newport" <4...@44.com> wrote:

>It is hard to get everything written down when they keep beaming me with
>ionizing radiation from space as I sit in front of my computer.

Indeed!

>Also they
>have sent out their planes with their microwave electromagnetic giant
>focused "flashlights" to try to make me disoriented and confused

I *HATE* it when they do that!

>After I posted that post "Secrets of Stealth
>Technology and the Men in Black" dozens of planes came from Wright Patterson
>Airforce Base and/or Dayton International Airport irradiating me with their
>lights that shine like big stars.

Yes, I told them to, Jerry. You are getting far too close to The
Trvth(tm) and -- worse yet -- sharing it with others.

You simply must be stopped.

-BlueBird


Jerry Newport

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If I am not mistaken Albert Einstein one of the worlds greatest geniuses
almost was a flunky in school and his teachers tried to get his parents to
institutionalize him. I am a poor speller because I cheated during my middle
and high school years. I enjoyed math and science however and got A's.

Again I suggest that the report I wrote on neuroleptic psychiatric drugs be
read. Click on this link and scroll untill you find it.

www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

Jerry Newport


Richard Caldwell wrote in message ...

David Fogerson

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Congrats, Richard, you certainly have more patience than I do. I don't
think I could have read through all that tripe. Thank the maker we have
patient men like you.

Write On!

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David Fogerson

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Jerry Newport wrote:
>
> I suggest that you read my report on Psychiatric drugs that you can find in
> the link off that post before dissing me as a unintellectual! One misspelled
> word does not an idiot make!
>
Further proof that you are an uneducated idiot:

1) "dissing me an AN unintellectual" would be the proper grammar. Most
intellectuals have at least a rudimentary understanding of grammar and
spelling. It seems you can't even learn to click on the spell check
button.

2) Admitting that you have taken psychiatric drugs.

3) Thinking that using poly-syllabic words make you smart. When you use
them incorrectly, or spell the wrong, it just exposes you for the
uneducated idiot you are. Go to some trade school and learn how to fix
my air conditioning, because your hot gas is steaming up my windows.

David Fogerson

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Now he's delusional. He's comparing himself to Einstein.
Dude, stop it, your really beginning to scare me.

--

Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>

> If I am not mistaken Albert Einstein one of the worlds greatest
> geniuses almost was a flunky in school and his teachers tried to get
> his parents to institutionalize him.

No, they advised his parents to send him to a trade school, where he
could learn a useful vocation. He got bad grades in school because he
didn't pay attention. He spent too much time daydreaming about things
that his teachers diddn't understand.

Like I said, it doesn't make you an idiot, it just means that you didn't
pay attention.

> I am a poor speller because I cheated during my middle and high school
> years.

Yup. That'll do it. Now you are paying the price for it. 8-]

> I enjoyed math and science however and got A's.

That's good.

> Again I suggest that the report I wrote on neuroleptic psychiatric
> drugs be read.

No thanks. I'm not interested in drugs, and they have *nothing* to do
with the subject of this newsgroup (alt.alien.visitors).

> Click on this link and scroll untill you find it.

> www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all
>
> Jerry Newport

I don't surf the web, much, and I don't read articles that I can't
respond to, at least not on the INTERNET. Thanks anyway.

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind that you are a loonie toon. The world
is full of 'em, and some of them have made some big contributions to the
arts, and even science.

I don't mind that you post to USENET.

I'm not even saying that the Govt. isn't trying to do evil things to you.
They do evil thins to me every time I see how much of my paycheck they
take away. 8-]

All that I ask is that you make a little more effort to get your
scientific mumbo jumbo halfway right. If you're interested in science,
try reading something by Stephen Hawking or Carl Sagan. Or, better yet,
try working your way through a highschool physics text, especially one on
electromagnetic radiation.

Have a nice day.

Richard

Richard Caldwell

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From: David Fogerson <dfr...@home.com>


> Congrats, Richard, you certainly have more patience than I do. I don't
> think I could have read through all that tripe. Thank the maker we
> have patient men like you.
>
> Write On!

Thank you for the kind words.

Please understand that it was not my intent to flame Mr. Newport. He may
be as crazy as a March hare, but he has as much right posting to USENET
as any of us has. I agree that a lot of his post was off-topic for this
newsgroup, but he's not the first to commit that sin.

My only reason for responding was to try to pursuade him to take a look
at some of his scientific claims, from a more rational perspective.
Maybe I'm wasting my time doing that. Maybe not. I guess we'll find
out. It never hurts to treat a human being like a human being.

Richard

Jerry Newport

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Art Bell is a Freemason Conspirator. The flames from people below are from
snooty British upper-class Freemason dipsticks. As you can see this post is
crossposted to several news groups and the Art Bell news group is one of
these. The conspirators hang out on this news group. Go to this link if you
want to learn more about Art Bell the Freemason Illuminati Conspirator.

http://www.harvest-trust.org/artbsbell.htm

http://www.harvest-trust.org/majestyt.htm

But remember William Cooper is a New Age Wolf in Sheep's Clothing who is
goading the fundamentalist into taking up arms so they will be slaughtered.

Sam Moser AKA Jerry Newport

Jerry Newport

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Nope! They are beaming people with ionizing radiation. THEY have the entire
USA mapped and THEY know who are the profane and not on THEIR side. The
ionizing radiation causes you to cough and wheeze and make sounds in your
throat like bronchitis. Also if they are beaming you heavily you will pass
gas. If they are beaming you extremely heavily you will break out in an
itchy rash all over your body.

Sam Moser AKA Jerry Newport


Hotplate wrote in message <368A25B1...@ozemail.com.au>...
>
>
>BirdTribe passed this along:


>
>> > > Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black! (#1 of 16)
>> > > Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:00:08 1998
>> > > New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
>

><helluva snip>
>
>I heard that joke before Birdman.
>
>Anyway, it's true about the rays, the foil -- I wear a foil bra myself --
and the
>guy is not such a nut-bag. Because they're also injecting microscopic dust
mites
>under the skin of all newborn babies to produce allergens so people have to
buy more
>asthma inhalers and you'll never guess who owns all the interconnecting
asthma pump
>factories? Yep -- *them.*
>
>signed... LaffGETTER
>

Jim Cox

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Jerry Newport wrote:
>
> Nope! They are beaming people with ionizing radiation. THEY have the entire
> USA mapped and THEY know who are the profane and not on THEIR side. The
> ionizing radiation causes you to cough and wheeze and make sounds in your
> throat like bronchitis. Also if they are beaming you heavily you will pass
> gas. If they are beaming you extremely heavily you will break out in an
> itchy rash all over your body.
>
> Sam Moser AKA Jerry Newport
>
> Hotplate wrote in message <368A25B1...@ozemail.com.au>...
> >
> >
> >BirdTribe passed this along:
> >
> >> > > Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black! (#1 of 16)
> >> > > Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:00:08 1998
> >> > > New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
> >
> ><helluva snip>
> >
> >I heard that joke before Birdman.
> >
> >Anyway, it's true about the rays, the foil -- I wear a foil bra myself --
> and the
> >guy is not such a nut-bag. Because they're also injecting microscopic dust
> mites
> >under the skin of all newborn babies to produce allergens so people have to
> buy more
> >asthma inhalers and you'll never guess who owns all the interconnecting
> asthma pump
> >factories? Yep -- *them.*
> >
> >signed... LaffGETTER
> >

And here all along I thought it was the chili with beans


Jerry Newport

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Concerning the over lapping layers of BLACK and WHITE tiles is NOT something
I just dreamed up. For your information a man at Wright Patterson Airforce
Base strangely volunteered the information. But of course there is a little
more to it then just color. Materials are part of it too. Absorbent material
and reflective material. I recommend having a car painted with overlapping
layers of the blackest primer and the most glossy white paint. I believe
they use silicon in the glossy paint to make it glossy and we know what that
is right? Glass! Tiny quartz crystals reflecting the rays. Microwaves are
not that far out of the visible spectrum and black heat resistant paint
spray painted on your clothes would be an effective way to block a good deal
of the microwaves from their mind control rays. And a mirror is reflective
because of the paint containing mercury that is coated on the back of the
glass. It does reflect microwaves quite well. Or you could get an old
microwave oven door and use it as a shield. By the way if it was not for the
honeycomb grid of little holes on a microwave oven door the microwaves would
come right out and fry you!

Jerry Newport

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We want more Jerry Newport
Societal Decoy 9211730 - Mon Dec 28 19:00:02 1998 Whiteland,

Sir

I want more of your interesting theories. Please don't hold back. Post
everything you have. I cannot get enough. What do you think about the
hollow earth theory? What about Evolution? What about Stephen Jay Gould?
What is your opinion about Chinese Herbal meds?

Go for it Jerry

A BIGGGGGG FANNNN
Societal Decoy

Post a message
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Where I Stand On "Evolution". (#1 of 2)

Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 18:55:20 1998


New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

It is hard to get everything written down when they keep beaming me with
ionizing radiation from space as I sit in front of my computer. Also they


have sent out their planes with their microwave electromagnetic giant

focused "flashlights" to try to make me disoriented and confused so I would
get institutionalized. I just wore aluminum foil on my head shiny side up
and carried a mirror and used it as a Shield. They would team up on me by

getting on both sides of me. After I posted that post "Secrets of Stealth


Technology and the Men in Black" dozens of planes came from Wright Patterson
Airforce Base and/or Dayton International Airport irradiating me with their

lights that shine like big stars. The ignorant have come to the wrong
conclusion and are saying they have seen "UFOs". The CIA/Airforce sent out a
big Stealth plane shaped like a boomerang twice to fly over my apartment and
my parents house to take MRI photographs of the dwellings for intelligence
gathering. The plane is bigger then a Stealth Fighter but much smaller then
a Stealth Bomber. They have recently declassified this plane only because I
witnessed it. There is no hollow earth. This theory promotes the false
doctrine of Hell fire and torment for the wicked. I have nothing against
Chinese Herbal medicine except when it is used in spiritism. I do not know
who Stephen Jay Gould is so I can not make any comments until I investigate.
The link below explains where I stand on evolution.

Samuel A. Moser AKA Jerry Newport

www.parascope.com/cgi-bin/psforum.pl/topic=matrix&disc=417&mmark=all

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How to Wear Aluminum Foil (#2 of 2)

Jerry Newport 2865600 - Mon Dec 28 19:00:02 1998


New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com

Just place it over your head and mold to fit. Then put on your hat.
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Steve Fritts

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> Secrets of Stealth Technoligy and the Men in Black! (#1 of 16)
>Jerry Newport 2865600 - Wed Dec 23 5:00:08 1998
>New Carlisle OH USA, ta...@donet.com
>
>Yes they do have satellites in space. The tracking devise is intended to
>allow them to beam my lungs so I will get lung cancer. I have aluminum foil
>rapped around my chest. When it is rapped that way I do not cough and


Good grief......no wonder it is difficult to do serious research with
idiots like this dude.....

Chive Mynde

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On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:30:14 GMT, Blue...@BB.gov.mil (BlueBird)
wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:43:44 -0500, "Jerry Newport" <4...@44.com> wrote:
>
>>It is hard to get everything written down when they keep beaming me with
>>ionizing radiation from space as I sit in front of my computer.
>

>Indeed!


>
>>Also they
>>have sent out their planes with their microwave electromagnetic giant
>>focused "flashlights" to try to make me disoriented and confused
>

>I *HATE* it when they do that!
>

>>After I posted that post "Secrets of Stealth
>>Technology and the Men in Black" dozens of planes came from Wright Patterson
>>Airforce Base and/or Dayton International Airport irradiating me with their
>>lights that shine like big stars.
>

>Yes, I told them to, Jerry. You are getting far too close to The
>Trvth(tm) and -- worse yet -- sharing it with others.
>
>You simply must be stopped.
>
>-BlueBird

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Is Jerry Newport Blue Resonant Human?

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AJ Samuels

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Richard Caldwell wrote in message ...

The aircraft on display at Wright Patterson AFB is the "Have Blue" proof
of concept demonstrator that was built to show that stealth technology
would work. It is smaller than the F-117, and has no RAM on the outside.

The aircraft in the WPAFB museum is a pre-production model of the F-117.
There are no surviving Have Blues, both of the ones built were destroyed in
flight test accidents.

AJ


Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>


> Nope! They are beaming people with ionizing radiation. THEY have the
> entire USA mapped and THEY know who are the profane and not on THEIR
> side. The ionizing radiation causes you to cough and wheeze and make
> sounds in your throat like bronchitis.

I do some of that. I thought it was my allergies acting up.

> Also if they are beaming you heavily you will pass gas.

Well that cuts it! Those assholes must be focusing *all* of their beams
on me at night, especially after I've had pizza for supper. 8-[

> If they are beaming you extremely heavily you will break out in an
> itchy rash all over your body.

Fortunately, I haven't gotten to that stage, yet.

> Sam Moser AKA Jerry Newport

Thanks for the tips, Jer. I'm checking all my specialty catalogs for
aluminum foil or mylar lined long-johns. So far, no luck. If I find
anything, I'll let you know.

Richard


Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>

> Concerning the over lapping layers of BLACK and WHITE tiles is NOT

> something I just dreamed up. For your information a man at Wright
> Patterson Airforce Base strangely volunteered the information.

The man was probably employed as a janitor, or some equally technical,
top-secret type of position. Did he know that the aircraft on display at
Wright-Pat isn't even the same airframe as the F-117? It's only about
3/4 as big as the F-117, to begin with.

> But of course there is a little more to it then just color.

Color is irrelevant to radar.

> Materials are part of it too.

Materials, and their spacing, is *all* of it.

> Absorbent material and reflective material.

Yup, and they are layered with just the right spacing, to match the
wavelength of radar.

> I recommend having a car painted with overlapping layers of the
> blackest primer and the most glossy white paint. I believe they use
> silicon in the glossy paint to make it glossy and we know what that
> is right? Glass!

No, glass is "silica", which is silicon dioxide (SiO2). It is found in
quartz and several other minerals. Silicon is an element, number 14 on
the periodic table. It is the second most common element on Earth,
behind oxygen. Let's keep these little details straight, shall we?

> Tiny quartz crystals reflecting the rays. Microwaves are not that far


> out of the visible spectrum and black heat resistant paint spray
> painted on your clothes would be an effective way to block a good deal
> of the microwaves from their mind control rays.

Wrong. Black, white, and all other colors are perfectly transparent to
microwaves, as long as they are not metallic.

> And a mirror is reflective because of the paint containing mercury that
> is coated on the back of the glass.

Actually, that "paint" contains silver, not mercury.

> It does reflect microwaves quite well.

Some mirrors might, if the silvering is heavy enough. Most would not.

> Or you could get an old microwave oven door and use it as a shield.

Or you could get a roll of metal wire screen, like the kind they use for
screen doors and windows. That will stop microwaves. Just build a
wooden frame and staple the screen wire to it. But, make sure that the
screen is *metal* (usually aluminum) and not the more common nylon or
polymer stuff that they make today.

> By the way if it was not for the honeycomb grid of little holes on a
> microwave oven door the microwaves would come right out and fry you!

Not fry, just par-boil you a little. It would be a quick way to get a
sun-tan, huh? 8-]

> Sam Moser AKA Jerry Newport

Richard (just keeping old Jer honest)


Richard Caldwell

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From: AJ Samuels <ajsa...@dolomite.win-uk.net>


> The aircraft in the WPAFB museum is a pre-production model of the
> F-117. There are no surviving Have Blues, both of the ones built were
> destroyed in flight test accidents.

Yeah, but one of them was patched back together (sans engines and
avionics) and is on display somewhere. I was sure it was WPAFB, but I
may have gotten it wrong. I'll check with the people at
rec.aviation.military.

Richard


Jerry Newport

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Radar is microwaves. Microwaves fall slightly out of the visible spectrum.
Stealth Technology is not as complicated as Richard Caldwell is trying to
make it look like. I effectively fixed a car so it could not be clocked by
what I did to it with paint and aluminum foil. Stealth Technology is very
simple. Materials is NOT all of it. Black absorbs more then just visible
light. Why do you think they make stereo equipment black? It is so the
electromagnetic interference from the electronics inside can not get out and
interfere with the neighbors TV. Stealth Technology is not complicated like
Richard Caldwell would like you to believe. White reflects more then just
visible light. Why do you think the inside of a microwave oven is white? It
is to reflect those microwaves around. Check out what the materials are in a
microwave oven and you will get a good idea how to set up the over lapping
layers of black and white to trap the signal on the inside and implement
your own Stealth Technology. Richard Caldwell is a SPIN DOCTOR.

Samuel A. Moser

Jerry Newport

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I got this information from an Airforce man on the inside and I have a tech
buddy who has confirmed it. The Stealth Fighter has over lapping layers of
Black and White tiles. Flat Black, Glossy White, Flat Black, Glossy White,
Flat Black, Glossy White, Flat Black, Glossy White. Do you really want to
believe the government sanctioned disinformation? I know this to be a FACT,
A FACT. Look in your microwave oven. If you can get a hold of some of that
white glossy paint the inside of your microwave is painted with and combine
this with flat black heat resistant paint and paint a vehicle with over
lapping layers alternating the colors with flat black on the outside you
will make your vehicle rather Stealthy. Not as good as Stealth Aircraft but
you will reduce your vehicles radar signature quite a bit.

IceNine

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Dr. No wrote in message ...

>>
>Man, ya just can't argue with logic like this! Fuckin priceless!
>
>Dr. No
>(my stereo equipment is silver - maybe that's why I can't get the Playboy
>channel)
>
>I'm with you on this. Try dunking your reciever in a bucket of flat white
latex. Maybe Anna Nicole Smith will pop out. :)

I9

Jerry Newport

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Randy Sweeney wrote in message ...
>Jerry... the inside of your microwave is white plastic because it is easier
>to clean, looks nice and is cheap. The real microwave reflector is a cheap
>steel box on the other side of the plastic.

My microwave is painted metal inside. White and glossy. Metal is not to be
put in a microwave because it generates plasma. So in the microwave ovens
that have the molded plastic then I suggest that this must be a special
reflecting plastic because everyone knows that metal generates plasma.

>the purpose of the steel box is more than shielding YOU from getting
>cooked... microwave ovens are multimode cavities... the steel box reflects
>microwaves back into the cavity where they bounce around until your meal
>absorbs them.

Again it is not the metal it is the white. Manufactures warn about placing
metal in a microwave oven because of the plasma it generates. (sparks). They
are not using metal to reflect the microwaves.


>also, stereo equipment is frequently black because it looks nice and black
>pigment (carbon black ) is cheap. Put an ohm meter on the plastic...
>insulator... and the carbon pigment is too finely divided to absorb longer
>wavelengths. Look inside and you will see real metal shields around your
RF

General Moters has started painting all their engines black because it holds
in the heat withing the engine allowing the engine to burn hotter and
cleaner. Black also blocks microwaves.

>section. Also, there are a lot of black pagers around... and I don't see
any
>antennas sticking out of them.


No but I am sure there is an unshielded area where the signal can get in
though.

>white is white because it reflects the sub micron visible spectrum... you
>can have a nice white sheet which is absolutely transparent to
microwaves...
>like a piece of Corningware... you can't see through it but they can.


Folks if you could see the non visable spectrom you would see that it is
reflecting more then just visable light.

Try this folks. Get yourself a glass container and some glossy heat
resistent paint and spray paint your glass container and see if you can cook
anything in it. Place food inside the painted container and outside the
painted container. See which cooks and which doesn't.

>the secret of stealth technology is not making something absorb one
>wavelength... it is making it absorb a variety of wavelengths while not
>reflecting others.

The flat black of the stealth fighter absorbs more then just visable light.
Also the stealth fighter has over lapping layers of flat black and glossy
white which traps the signal on the inside so it can not get out.

Randy Sweeney

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Jerry... the inside of your microwave is white plastic because it is easier
to clean, looks nice and is cheap. The real microwave reflector is a cheap
steel box on the other side of the plastic.

the purpose of the steel box is more than shielding YOU from getting


cooked... microwave ovens are multimode cavities... the steel box reflects
microwaves back into the cavity where they bounce around until your meal
absorbs them.

also, stereo equipment is frequently black because it looks nice and black


pigment (carbon black ) is cheap. Put an ohm meter on the plastic...
insulator... and the carbon pigment is too finely divided to absorb longer
wavelengths. Look inside and you will see real metal shields around your RF

section. Also, there are a lot of black pagers around... and I don't see any
antennas sticking out of them.

white is white because it reflects the sub micron visible spectrum... you


can have a nice white sheet which is absolutely transparent to microwaves...
like a piece of Corningware... you can't see through it but they can.

the secret of stealth technology is not making something absorb one


wavelength... it is making it absorb a variety of wavelengths while not
reflecting others.

Jerry Newport <4...@44.com> wrote in message ...

Randy Sweeney

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he's not a bot... just off his meds.

Thorazine can stop the voices better than alternating aluminum foil and
white paint.

Marty Fouts wrote in message ...
>
>it's a 'bot folks.
>
>there is no 'jerry newport'.
>
>these posts are being posted by a spam-'bot.
>
>marty

Glen Quarnstrom

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"Jerry Newport" <4...@44.com> wrote:

>Randy Sweeney wrote in message ...

>>section. Also, there are a lot of black pagers around... and I don't see


>any
>>antennas sticking out of them.
>
>

>No but I am sure there is an unshielded area where the signal can get in
>though.

All my "handy-talkie" ham radios have "rubber ducky" antennas. All
those antennas are... Guess what? Flat black!

And they work just fine. You don't have a clue, FoilBoy. Are you
sure you're not Gary Stollman?

--
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Knight

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Glen Quarnstrom wrote:
>
> "Jerry Newport" <4...@44.com> wrote:
>
> >Randy Sweeney wrote in message ...
>
> >>section. Also, there are a lot of black pagers around... and I don't see
> >any
> >>antennas sticking out of them.
> >
> >
> >No but I am sure there is an unshielded area where the signal can get in
> >though.
>
> All my "handy-talkie" ham radios have "rubber ducky" antennas. All
> those antennas are... Guess what? Flat black!
>
> And they work just fine. You don't have a clue, FoilBoy. Are you
> sure you're not Gary Stollman?

Let's try a little experiment. Cross-post this to sci.physicis, and see
what happens :).

Jerry Newport

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No but I am very close to the truth. Black absorbs, White reflects.

Jerry Newport

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Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
which is low frequencies right above infra red.

Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
Signals

Jerry Newport

Jerry Newport

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Beeb

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Jerry Newport <4...@44.com> wrote in message ...
>No but I am very close to the truth. Black absorbs, White reflects.


BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Flatulent with glee,
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Wouldn't you really rather have a Buick?
>
>

DrPostman

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"Jerry Newport" <4...@44.com> wrote:

>No but I am very close to the truth. Black absorbs, White reflects.
>


Yea, why the hell didn't I know that when I bought this
dark gray sports car I have - gets hot as hell in the summer!

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Jerry Newport

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Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it gets through
the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.

Jerry Newport

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Jerry Newport

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Jerry Newport

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Dave Bethke

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Jerry Newport wrote:
>
> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
> which is low frequencies.................

Do you have to display your lack of knowledge of radio waves FOUR
times?

DrPostman

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"Jerry Newport" <4...@4-4.com> wrote:

>Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar

>which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it gets through
>the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
>Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
>Signals
>
>Jerry Newport
>
>


Are you really, truly, sure about this?

Michael Edelman

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Jerry Newport wrote:

> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
> which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it gets through
> the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
> Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
> Signals

This guy is just a treasure chest of ignorance!

Microwaves are radio waves. His EM spectrum is, well, confused. "Infa red"?


Glen Quarnstrom

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"Jerry Newport" <4...@4-4.com> wrote:

>Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
>which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it gets through
>the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
>Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
>Signals

Oh, bullshit. Radio signals are used far up into the microwave
region. Some portable phones operate on 2.4 GHz or thereabouts, and
the antennas are black "rubber ducks" just like on the ham rigs. It's
all electro-magnetic force, and obeys the laws of physics no matter
what use is being made of it.

It's entirely possible to make a radio device on a frequency used for
radar and use an antenna painted black, or covered with a black
material (depending on the dielectric properties of the material used)
and have it work quite well.
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Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@4-4.com>

> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave
> radar which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it
> gets through the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
> Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
> Signals

Wrong, Jer. You've been missing a lot of them lately. Here is a rough
list of the electro-magnetic spectrum, from the longest wavelength
(lowest frequency) to the shortest wavelenght (highest frequency):

1. Long Radio Waves - This includes the ELF radio used by the Navy.
2. Broadcast Radio - Wavelengths are around 1 kilometer.
3. Short-wave Radio - wavelengths in meters
4. Micro-wave - wavelengths in centimeters
5. Infra-red - wavelengths less than a centimeter
6. Visible light - wavelengths around 1 micron (10^-3m)
7. Ultra-violet - wavelengths less than a micron (10^-6m)
8. X-rays - wavelengths around 1 nanometer (10^-9m)
9. Gamma rays - wavelengths less than a nanometer

So, Jer, you can see that you got it almost exactly backward. Perhaps
you got wavelength and frequency mixed up, since they are inversely
proportional to each other.

This is right out of an old physics text, so I'm sure that Jerry will
consider it all to be a lie. 8-]

Richard

Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>

> My microwave is painted metal inside. White and glossy.

Yup. So is mine. So are *all* of them.

> Metal is not to be put in a microwave because it generates plasma.

Metal is not to be put *inside* the cooking chamber, because it can do
one of 2 things. If its a large surface, it bounces the microwaves
around, instead of absorbing them, which prevents your food from cooking.
If it's small, like a piece of wire, it absorbs the microwaves, gets
*very* hot and starts causing sparks inside the oven. I know, 'cause I
forgot and left the twist-tie on a baggie of left-over fried chicken,
once. 8-]

As for "plasma", theres *nothing* you can put in your microwave that will
generate plasma. Do you even know what plasma is? I doubt it.

> So in the microwave ovens that have the molded plastic then I suggest
> that this must be a special reflecting plastic because everyone knows
> that metal generates plasma.

No, the inside surfaces of a microwave oven are all metal, either steel
or aluminum. The reason is that the metal reflects the microwaves back
into the cooking chamber, where they will eventually be absorbed by the
food, which is what causes the food to get hot. The metal surfaces are
painted white to make them easier to clean, and to increase visibility.

> Again it is not the metal it is the white.

This is just plain bullshit.

> Manufactures warn about placing metal in a microwave oven because of
> the plasma it generates. (sparks).

That warning is about putting metal *inside* the cooking chamber. The
walls of the chamber are metal.

> They are not using metal to reflect the microwaves.

Metal is the *only* thing that will reflect the microwaves. Have you
ever seen a wave guide? Wave guides are what they use to conduct the
microwaves from the magnatron tube to the antenna on a radar set. These
wave guides have a square cross-section that is tuned exactly to the
wavelength of the microwaves. They are made of metal (usually aluminum)
because metal reflects microwaves.

> General Moters has started painting all their engines black because it
> holds in the heat withing the engine allowing the engine to burn hotter
> and cleaner.

Wrong. Besides being a better absorber, flat black is also a better
radiator. Have you ever noticed that *all* car radiators are painted
black. That's because black radiated heat *away* better than any other
color. Since car engines operate at temperatures that are *much* higher
than the surrounding air, a flat-black engine radiates the heat away more
efficiently, which helps it to run *cooler*. There was *never* a problem
with getting engines hot enough. Burning all that gasoline produces
*plenty* of heat. The problem has always been *cooling* the engine.

> Black also blocks microwaves.

Absolute total bullshit.

> No but I am sure there is an unshielded area where the signal can get
> in though.

Yeah, like the *entire* case.

> Folks if you could see the non visable spectrom you would see that it
> is reflecting more then just visable light.

It is certainly possible for materials to reflect more than just visible
light. It is also possible to get paint that is reflective in the IR
and/or UV part of the spectrum. It is even possible to get pain that
reflects microwaves, but the color would not be relevant. It would be
the metal flakes in the paint that made it reflective to microwaves.

> Try this folks. Get yourself a glass container and some glossy heat
> resistent paint and spray paint your glass container and see if you can
> cook anything in it. Place food inside the painted container and
> outside the painted container. See which cooks and which doesn't.

I already have a glossy black coffee cup. It works just fine in the
microwave. Coffee heats up in it just as fast as it does in my glossy
white cups. No difference. Color is irrelevant.

> The flat black of the stealth fighter absorbs more then just visable
> light.

The RAM coating on stealth aircraft is more than just paint. It contains
metallic "bits" that absorb radar waves. The exact size, shape,
composition and spacing of these metallic "bits" is classified.

> Also the stealth fighter has over lapping layers of flat black and

> glossy white which traps the signal on the inside so it can not get
> out.

Not true. The RAM is applied in layers, but none of the layers is white.
The *inside* of the bombays, wheel wells, and other internal areas of the
F-117 are painted glossy white, for better visibility when servicing the
aircraft. Perhaps this is what is confusing Jerry, aside from his brain
chemistry, of course. 8-]

Richard

Richard Caldwell

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From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>

> No but I am very close to the truth. Black absorbs, White reflects.

Black also radiates.

Richard

Andrea Chen

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Richard:

Cut this crap out! I remember when you were telling everyone that you
can't see in a vacuum and that if anyone went into space they'd better
take some air or they'd cut themself shaving. But you didn't even
mention the mirror (without which the air would do no good because you'd
still cut yourself.)

If you really believe this stuff why don't you cross[post it to
alt.sci.physics.new-theories and have some real scientists look at it.

Michael Edelman

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Richard Caldwell wrote:

> From: Jerry Newport <4...@44.com>
>
> ...> The flat black of the stealth fighter absorbs more then just visable


> > light.
>
> The RAM coating on stealth aircraft is more than just paint. It contains
> metallic "bits" that absorb radar waves. The exact size, shape,
> composition and spacing of these metallic "bits" is classified.

Correct. The Blackbird, the world's first stealth aircraft, had a paint
containing small iron balls that was intended to improve radiation but also
helped cut radar reflection. Note that it, too, was painted black to improve
heat radiation!

> > Also the stealth fighter has over lapping layers of flat black and
> > glossy white which traps the signal on the inside so it can not get
> > out.
>
> Not true. The RAM is applied in layers, but none of the layers is white.
> The *inside* of the bombays, wheel wells, and other internal areas of the
> F-117 are painted glossy white, for better visibility when servicing the
> aircraft. Perhaps this is what is confusing Jerry, aside from his brain
> chemistry, of course. 8-]

No doubt ;-)

BTW, there's also a radar absorbing putty that is "buttered" over all door
and panel joints after the pilot enters the craft. This cuts reflections
from what would otherwise be significant areas of radar return.

Glen Quarnstrom

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Richard Caldwell <rcal...@oklaosf.state.ok.us> wrote:

>
> From: Jerry Newport <4...@4-4.com>
>
>> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave
>> radar which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it
>> gets through the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.

"Radio" INCLUDES microwave frequencies, so radar IS a form of radio.

=====================================================================
radio spectrum

radio spectrum noun

The entire range of electromagnetic communications frequencies,
including those used for radio, radar, and television; radio-frequency
spectrum.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third
Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights
reserved.
=====================================================================

>>
>> Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
>> Signals
>
>Wrong, Jer. You've been missing a lot of them lately. Here is a rough
>list of the electro-magnetic spectrum, from the longest wavelength
>(lowest frequency) to the shortest wavelenght (highest frequency):
>
> 1. Long Radio Waves - This includes the ELF radio used by the Navy.
> 2. Broadcast Radio - Wavelengths are around 1 kilometer.
> 3. Short-wave Radio - wavelengths in meters
> 4. Micro-wave - wavelengths in centimeters
> 5. Infra-red - wavelengths less than a centimeter
> 6. Visible light - wavelengths around 1 micron (10^-3m)
> 7. Ultra-violet - wavelengths less than a micron (10^-6m)
> 8. X-rays - wavelengths around 1 nanometer (10^-9m)
> 9. Gamma rays - wavelengths less than a nanometer

Here's another approach:

====================================================================
radio frequency

radio frequency noun

Abbr. RF

1. The frequency of the waves transmitted by a specific radio
station.

2. A frequency in the range within which radio waves may be
transmitted, from about 10 kilocycles per second to about 300,000
megacycles per second. The radio frequency groups are:

very low frequency (vlf), 10 to 30 kilohertz;
low frequency (lf), 30 to 300 kilohertz;
medium frequency (mf), 300 to 3,000 kilohertz;
high frequency (hf), 3,000 to 30,000 kilohertz;
very high frequency (vhf), 30 to 300 megahertz;
ultrahigh frequency (uhf), 300 to 3,000 megahertz;
superhigh frequency (shf), 3,000 to 30,000 megahertz;
extremely high frequency (ehf), 30,000 to 300,000 megahertz.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third
Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights
reserved.
===================================================================

Richard Caldwell

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From: Andrea Chen <fallin...@earthlink.net>

> Cut this crap out! I remember when you were telling everyone that you
> can't see in a vacuum and that if anyone went into space they'd better
> take some air or they'd cut themself shaving.

Nope. That was Myke Reynolds, who insisted that mirrors didn't work in a
vacuum. Ah, those were the good old days.

> But you didn't even mention the mirror (without which the air would do
> no good because you'd still cut yourself.)

The mirror thing wasn't my idea, it was Mykey's. I just pointed out that
it was full of s**t.

> If you really believe this stuff why don't you cross[post it to
> alt.sci.physics.new-theories and have some real scientists look at it.

What stuff? I haven't posted any new theories. The stuff I post comes
out of physics texts that are at least 30 years old (I graduated in
1971.), so I don't think that any of it is new or revolutionary. So, I
don't want to bore/offend the folks in sci.physics or a.s.p.n. with this
sort of ho-hum stuff.

Richard


Richard Caldwell

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From: Glen Quarnstrom <gee...@nursing.home>

> Richard Caldwell <rcal...@oklaosf.state.ok.us> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: Jerry Newport <4...@4-4.com>
> >
> >> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave
> >> radar which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it
> >> gets through the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
> "Radio" INCLUDES microwave frequencies, so radar IS a form of radio.

True. In fact, the first "R" in "RADAR", which is an acronym, is for
"Radio". Also, older descriptions of the EM spectrum do no separate out
microwaves as a separate band, but simply include them in the short-wave
radio band. Later descriptions separate out micro-waves because those
frequencies, and the term have found more use in recent years.

Thanks, Glen, for the excellent detailed breakdown of the radio bands of
the EM spectrum. This description covers bands 1 - 4 of my description,
but in much greater detail.

Richard


Richard Caldwell

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From: Love Lies Squealing <Lo...@corrode.demon.co.uk>

> On 04 Jan 1999 13:02:34 -0800, Marty Fouts
> <al...@usenet.nospam.fogey.com> put paid to all suspicions, thus:
>
> <snip>
> >Blackbird wasn't first. The German Horton brothers built
> >low-radar-profile planes in WW-II. There may have been others.

The Horton Bros. designs were made of wood, covered with ordinary paint.
Therefore, radar would penetrate the wooden skin and bounce off of the
internal structural parts, engines, etc. So, without a reflective paint
or aluminum skin, they would not have been particularly stealthy.

Also, none of the original documentation found with the Hortons' designs
mentions anything about reducing the radar visibility of the aircraft.
This idea was introduced in later books, written about the Horton Bros.
well after the idea of stealth had been demonstrated by other aircraft.
Still, with the proper surface treatments, the Horton Bros.' designs
could have been stealthy, especially against the radars of WW-II.

> >Do you have a citation for the the blackbird paint reference? It
> >doesn't appear in the blackbird literature I have, and would
> >contradict some of the information about high temperature problems
> >with the plane.

> No citation, but I do have something that refers to 'iron ball' paint
> to increase radiation surface as a standard countermeasure for the
> first generation of IR seeking missiles.

The SR-71 is generally acknowledged as being the first aircraft to employ
a RAM in its outer skin. This RAM was *not* the same stuff that is used
on the F-117, which is *not* the same stuff that is used on the B-2. As
you point out, the paint on the SR-71 had to be able to withstand *very*
high temperatures, since it commonly cruised at speeds over Mach 3.

The SR-71 is also acknowledged for having the first stealthy shape,
although this was accomplished using a more general approach to stealth,
rather than the specific stealth design techniques employed on the F-117
and later stealth aircraft. The full-length chines, blended wings, and
inward sloping vertical stabilizers were all stealthy design factors.

Richard


Andrea Chen

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Love Lies Squealing wrote:
>
> There you go, exposing some of those obvious things that really put
> the whole thing into sharp relief. Of course you can't see in a
> vacuum, the partial pressure would cause the vitreous humours in the
> eye to explode making the shaving surface quite slippery.
>


Yeah and it took them around 200 posts to figure this out even though
Paul Murphy put in lots of clues. There was lots of good physics on the
nature of light though along with a bunch of Robert ASF typer saying
"what a nut" and feeling very proud of themselves because they knew you
could see in a vacuum.

saf...@busprod.com

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> [dual], if you mean 2.
>>>> Hussein? Difficult choice. By the way they are even using commercial
>>>> airplanes with gas lights to get me. That is just how wide spread
>>>> the conspiracy is now. Stealth technology is based on the Occult.
> [occult]
>>>> This technology is mostly being handed to man from Satan during
>>>> dreams that people have at night. I thought I invented a gravity
>>>> calculating machine in my sleep that would make it possible to make
>>>> planes that work with gravity instead of against it. I realize Satan
>>>> gave it to me hoping I would join the Evil Empire and get rich of it.
{off}
>>>> It is a hollow ball like a hamster ball filled with mercury or some
>>>> other liquid on top of a spindle and rotated rapidly. The mercury
>>>> moves upward through centrifugal force and using scanning lasers
>>>> which scan the mercury in triangulated patterns around the sphere
>>>> with the data fed into a computer using various variables like mass
With infinity, probability becomes moot.

Randy Sweeney

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...and don't forget the U2 covered with ferite beads!

but speaking of Horten... there is a BEAUTIFUL website at
http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/Horten_Nurflugels/horten_nurflugels.html
you gotta admit, the planes were pretty


Richard Caldwell wrote in message ...

BlueBird

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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:12:35 +0000, Andrea Chen
<fallin...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Yeah and it took them around 200 posts to figure this out even though
>Paul Murphy put in lots of clues. There was lots of good physics on the
>nature of light though along with a bunch of Robert ASF typer saying
>"what a nut" and feeling very proud of themselves because they knew you
>could see in a vacuum.

OF COURSE you can see in a vacuum -- there's lots of lint and
dustballs and stuff in mine.

Sheesh, you guys are a bunch of goofballs!

-Brother Blue
Maintenance Technician


BirdTribe

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BlueBird wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:12:35 +0000, Andrea Chen
> <fallin...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Yeah and it took them around 200 posts to figure this out even though
> >Paul Murphy put in lots of clues. There was lots of good physics on the
> >nature of light though along with a bunch of Robert ASF typer saying
> >"what a nut" and feeling very proud of themselves because they knew you
> >could see in a vacuum.
>
> OF COURSE you can see in a vacuum -- there's lots of lint and
> dustballs and stuff in mine.

And the end covers of the older ones make convincing UFOs when thrown and
photographed.

Your Pal
BirdTribe

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On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:34:22 GMT, BirdTribe <cor...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>>Blue:


>> OF COURSE you can see in a vacuum -- there's lots of lint and
>> dustballs and stuff in mine.

>And the end covers of the older ones make convincing UFOs when thrown and
>photographed.

"On the advice of a local contact, he [Terrence McKenna] sat down one
day to watch a portion of the sky where, reportedly, a UFO might
appear. After awhile, he noticed a strange, thin, horizontal cloud
forming near the horizon. The cloud grew in length, then divided in
two. The parts separated some distance, then moved back together
again. Then the cloud appeared to move slowly toward him. McKenna
wanted to rush to the nearby hut and wake his sleeping friends to come
and see, but he was afraid to take his eyes off the moving cloud -- so
he sat staring as it moved closer. Before long, he says, it was
directly overhead, now clearly a flying saucer and so close he could
see rivets in the metal.

"There was just one thing wrong. 'I recognized this thing,' he says.
'It looked like the end cap of a Hoover vacuum cleaner, exactly the
same fake saucer as in George Adamski's photos. This thing
flew right over my head, and it was as phoney as a three dollar bill.
I knew it was a fake.'"

Excerpt from:

The Transcendental Object From Beyond the End of History
http://www.brotherblue.org/libers/mckenna2.htm

-Brother Blue
Brotherhood of Galactic Science


Wizard

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In article <36982d01...@news.cyberhighway.net>, gl...@cyberhighway.net wrote:
>Richard Caldwell <rcal...@oklaosf.state.ok.us> wrote:
>
>>
>> From: Jerry Newport <4...@4-4.com>
>>
>>> Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave
>>> radar which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it
>>> gets through the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>
>"Radio" INCLUDES microwave frequencies, so radar IS a form of radio.
>
>=====================================================================
>radio spectrum
The frequencys used in early radar are what we now use for radios in taxicabs.

KB1AUP


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Richard Caldwell <blac...@spamblock.com> wrote:
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>Did he know that the aircraft on display at
>Wright-Pat isn't even the same airframe as the F-117? It's only about
>3/4 as big as the F-117, to begin with.

The Wright-Pat plane is the original Have Blue demonstration proto, right?
The Crazy Diamond or whatever it was they called it when they were testing
it at TTR?

--The Elder Dan


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> --
> MY disgruntled postal worker can beat up YOUR disgruntled postal worker.


And Jamie can beat 'em both up!!

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no...@nospam.com (Agent Sir Ed) wrote:

>In article <7760bj$375$1...@shell15.ba.best.com>, cri...@best.com (Crisper
>Than Thou) wrote:
>
>> --
>> MY disgruntled postal worker can beat up YOUR disgruntled postal worker.
>
>
>And Jamie can beat 'em both up!!


Only if I am armed ;)

Jason Gorringe

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>>Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar
>>which is low frequencies right above infra red that is why it gets through
>>the black rubber on the walky talky antenna.
>>
>>Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
>>Signals
>>
>>Jerry Newport
>>
Sorry, you have got your information a little mixed up. The Electromagnetic
Spectrum runs (from high to low frequency)
Gamma Rays - XRays - UV - Visible Light - Infra Red - Microwaves - Radio
Frequencies.

Radar can use any frequency from Microwave down (hence RADAR, RAdio
Direction And RAnging.)

You may be getting Frequency mixed up with Wavelength, as they are inversly
proportional. ie a high frequency gives a short wavelength and a low
frequency gives a long wavelength.

Wm James

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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:49:05 -0500, "Jerry Newport" <4...@4-4.com>
wrote:

>Radio waves are high frequencies and are not the same as microwave radar

>which is low frequencies right above infra red.


>
>Visible Light - Infa Red - Microwaves and Radar - High Frequency Radio
>Signals
>
>Jerry Newport

Your list is backwards. Right to left is showing high to low.
Microwave is higher frequencies than high frequency radio. Visable
light is the highest on your list. UV is even higher.

William R. James


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Light and ultraviolet radiation

Different wave-bands of the visible spectrum have been given names
according to their colour, as seen by the human eye.
Different wave-bands of ultaviolet radiation have been given the
arbitrary names A, B, and C. The table below reflects what is
usually understood by these names in the context of plant photobiology
research. The meaning is not consistent for all bands:
for example the wavelengths used to define RED and FAR-RED in this
context are based on the peaks of absorption of
phytochrome, while in the case of UV the definition of the bands is
arbitrary, although usually used consistently in the literature.
(The limit between UV-A and UV-B is sometimes put at 315 nm instead of
the more commomly used 320 nm.)

Table. Light and ultraviolet radiation.
The names of different spectral bands of
importance in plant photobiology.
Name of band
Wavelength (nm)
ULTRAVIOLET-C <280
ULTRAVIOLET-B 280-320
ULTRAVIOLET-A 320-400
BLUE approx. 400-500
GREEN approx. 520-550
RED 655-665
FAR-RED 725-735

ALSO: References--
http://cc.joensuu.fi/photobio/mrainbow.html
http://www.meto.umd.edu/~owen/CHPI/IMAGES/planck2s.html
http://www.adi.uam.es/Docs/spectro/light/em-rad.htm
http://www.adi.uam.es/Docs/spectro/light/em-spec.htm


Electromagnetic Spectrum

Type/Rad Freq.(Hz) Range Type/Transition
gamma-rays 1020-1024 <10-12 m nuclear
x-rays 1017-1020 1 nm-1 pm inner electron
ultraviolet 1015-1017 400 nm-1 nm outer electron
visible 4-7.5x1014 750 nm-400 nm outer electron
near-infrared 1012-4x1014 2.5 um-750 nm outer electron/
molecular vibrations
infrared 1011-1012 25 um-2.5 um molecular vibrations
microwaves 108-1012 1 mm-25 um molecular rotations/

electron spin flips*
radio waves 100-108 >1 mm nuclear spin
flips*

*energy levels split by a magnetic field

=========================


Lugnut
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