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 More options Mar 10 2008, 8:07 pm
Newsgroups: alt.pagan, alt.satanism, alt.magick.tyagi
From: lorax666 <yronwode.com@nagasiva>
Date: 11 Mar 2008 00:07:07 GMT
Local: Mon, Mar 10 2008 8:07 pm
Subject: Allegiances to Gods

"lorax666" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
>>> you could just switch allegiances to a different
>>> god. that way the "sin" set would also change.
>"flower of romance" <flow...@inthattick.com> wrote in message
>> you could. some of us did.

"Tani Jantsang" <tjs...@spampost.com>:

>There is another way to see this.  

there are many.

>Let us say that your God is the Cosmos itself

I'll call this hypothesis A.

>- or the dark force in nature.  

I'll call this hypothesis B. I see no reason to
equate A with B.

> Let us say that this god has only what is absolutely
>and literally true to tell us.  

this is confused and nonsensical. the cosmos as a
whole doesn't speak, unless you take a certain
subset's expression as the expression FOR the whole.
why you identify this as you do is anybody's guess.

>This is what this god says:

I'll evaluate this contention below.

>1. Nothing is good or bad unless you think it is good or bad.

A: the Cosmos says nothing specifically and therefore
does not say this specifically.

B: since i have no data on this "dark force in nature"
and how it expresses anything, i see no justification
for considering 1. above to be accurate. explain how
it is that you have come the conclusion that any "dark
force in nature" says this.

>2. All things are permitted, the only exceptions being
>purely physical ones.
>(I.e., you are not permitted to breathe water because,
>as a human, you simply can't do that.  You are not
>permitted to walk through a wall, because as a being
>made of matter, you can't.)

A: this seems demonstrably accurate: that which is
beyond our abilities transcends natural principles.
this isn't really about "permission" but about the
extant operating principles constraining all of us.

B: since i have no data on this "dark force in nature"
and how it expresses anything, i see no justification
for considering 2. above to be accurate based on it.
explain how it is that you have come the conclusion
that any "dark force in nature" says this.

>Now, one might ask why have a god at all, if those
>are the only 2 things told to you by this god?  

you are maintaining to us that the Cosmos and the
dark force of nature told you these things, 1 and
2 above?

>Well, heh, if a GOD said it and it's written in a
>BOOK - then heh - you know how the rest of that goes.  

I wrote fictional stories about gods. there is no
reason that others could not have also done so.

>What kind of society would we have?  
> Maybe no society?  

speculation is baseless and endless.

> Anarchy leads to gangs....

try anarchism then, which is different.

> ..."tit for tat" doesn't always work out....

quite so.

nocTifer
luckymojo.com@nagasiva


 
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