Titles for Sale
Morticha
free... I think all of you have heard of ULC or United Life Church....
Well they are now selling titles for $20.00 to those who have been
ordained by them.... Titles like Priest, High Priest, Priestess and High
Priestess ETC.. You can pay just $20.00 and be anything from any
religion out there....
Here is something for you it is also a legal title in the USA if you pay
the fees required in your state as well as get in touch with the IRS for
Tax purposes... Isn't this a hoot... You no longer have to study
anything just buy it from ULC.... and the USA...
Signed
Morticha
No sig yet just bought a new computer..
May Nature rap you in its arms and keep you safe within and out....
Rhyanon
xtian to become Ordained. I have an Ordination form them, and it qualifies
me in the state of TX to perform legal Pagan weddings, as well as other
services. I think paying for a Saint's title is silly too, but the
Ordination is free. If you wanna do a legal Handfasting and not just the
religious ceremony, you gotsta be a Rev. It definitely has its benefits.**
~Rev. Sz.~
Morticha <morti...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:373D2B22...@netscape.net...
Shez
<morti...@netscape.net> writes
>I found a web site that will ordain anyone to become a reverend for
>free... I think all of you have heard of ULC or United Life Church....
>Well they are now selling titles for $20.00 to those who have been
>ordained by them.... Titles like Priest, High Priest, Priestess and High
>Priestess ETC.. You can pay just $20.00 and be anything from any
>religion out there....
>Here is something for you it is also a legal title in the USA if you pay
>the fees required in your state as well as get in touch with the IRS for
>Tax purposes... Isn't this a hoot... You no longer have to study
>anything just buy it from ULC.... and the USA...
>Signed
>Morticha
>No sig yet just bought a new computer..
>May Nature rap you in its arms and keep you safe within and out....
>
I wonder if that is where Talesin got his priest title
from.....(chuckle)
a 20 dollar priest eh, that sounds about right
--
Shez sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk
The 'Old Craft' lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
muphasa
Shez wrote in message <0NDArkBf...@oldcity.demon.co.uk>...
:In article <373D2B22...@netscape.net>, Morticha
I saw the subject and thought it said: 'Titties for sale'
I was almost let down until I saw Tales' name...
That would go right along with his Xianity with tits'
propaganda.
Kirk
Shez
<mup...@gte.net> writes
would now be boasting he had titties (grin)
Talesin has unfortunately got the idea that a title gives instant
respect and conveys instant power, it simply hasn't dawned on him yet,
that respect has to be earned. it cant be bought. :)
not even for 20 dollars.
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <Azn%2.3545$mj.9...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, muphasa
><mup...@gte.net> writes
>>
>>Shez wrote in message <0NDArkBf...@oldcity.demon.co.uk>...
>>:In article <373D2B22...@netscape.net>, Morticha
>>:<morti...@netscape.net> writes
Snip
>>:>No sig yet just bought a new computer..
>>:>May Nature rap you in its arms and keep you safe within and out....
>>:>
>>:
>>:
>>:I wonder if that is where Talesin got his priest title
>>:from.....(chuckle)
>>:a 20 dollar priest eh, that sounds about right
>>:--
>>:Shez sh...@oldcity.demon.co.uk
>>:The 'Old Craft' lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
>>
>>I saw the subject and thought it said: 'Titties for sale'
>>I was almost let down until I saw Tales' name...
>>That would go right along with his Xianity with tits'
>>propaganda.
>>
>>Kirk
>>
>>
>Well he would have applied if it said titties for sale to, no doubt he
>would now be boasting he had titties (grin)
>
>
>Talesin has unfortunately got the idea that a title gives instant
>respect and conveys instant power, it simply hasn't dawned on him yet,
>that respect has to be earned. it cant be bought. :)
>not even for 20 dollars.
Hey! didn't we give Mousie some titties in a Shezite temple rite not
to long back? I think they were some nice big ones, too. Didn't want
him to complain... Little children are always happier, when given
more!
--
ZM*
"love dem lil" mousies
mousies whats I loves to eats
bites dey lil" heads off
nibble on dey tiny feets"
-Kilban
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <Azn%2.3545$mj.9...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, muphasa
>><mup...@gte.net> writes
>>
>>Talesin has unfortunately got the idea that a title gives instant
>>respect and conveys instant power, it simply hasn't dawned on him yet,
>>that respect has to be earned. it cant be bought. :)
>>not even for 20 dollars.
>
>Hey! didn't we give Mousie some titties in a Shezite temple rite not
>to long back? I think they were some nice big ones, too. Didn't want
>him to complain... Little children are always happier, when given
>more!
>
Yes not the real thing of course, in fact I believe he was pelted with
them, they were fake ones for a party.....
>--
>ZM*
>
>"love dem lil" mousies
>mousies whats I loves to eats
>bites dey lil" heads off
>nibble on dey tiny feets"
> -Kilban
--
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <3743040c...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>Shez wrote:
>>
>>>In article <Azn%2.3545$mj.9...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, muphasa
>>><mup...@gte.net> writes
>>s>
>>>
>>>Talesin has unfortunately got the idea that a title gives instant
>>>respect and conveys instant power, it simply hasn't dawned on him yet,
>>>that respect has to be earned. it cant be bought. :)
>>>not even for 20 dollars.
>>
>>Hey! didn't we give Mousie some titties in a Shezite temple rite not
>>to long back? I think they were some nice big ones, too. Didn't want
>>him to complain... Little children are always happier, when given
>>more!
>>
>
>Yes not the real thing of course, in fact I believe he was pelted with
>them, they were fake ones for a party.....
>
Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
<BG>
Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
sided tape.....<BG>
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <3743040c...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>Shez wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <Azn%2.3545$mj.9...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, muphasa
>>>><mup...@gte.net> writes
>>>s>
>>>>
>>>>Talesin has unfortunately got the idea that a title gives instant
>>>>respect and conveys instant power, it simply hasn't dawned on him yet,
>>>>that respect has to be earned. it cant be bought. :)
>>>>not even for 20 dollars.
>>>
>>>Hey! didn't we give Mousie some titties in a Shezite temple rite not
>>>to long back? I think they were some nice big ones, too. Didn't want
>>>him to complain... Little children are always happier, when given
>>>more!
>>>
>>
>>Yes not the real thing of course, in fact I believe he was pelted with
>>them, they were fake ones for a party.....
>>
>
>Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
><BG>
>Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
>Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
>sided tape.....<BG>
Yep some of em, and Fang used his lazer eyed helmet and frizzled tales,
who ran off crying as usual....
I do believe Fang enjoyed himself..... he,he.
>
>--
>ZM*
>
>"love dem lil" mousies
>mousies whats I loves to eats
>bites dey lil" heads off
>nibble on dey tiny feets"
> -Kilban
--
Cardinal Fang
Zephera MorningStar wrote:
> Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
> <BG>
> Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
> Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
> sided tape.....<BG>
I suggest we turn Tales into a pinata....so we can beat him with a stick
until he comes apart.
--
Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
************************************************************************
The Official Archbishop of Spanking
Zephera MorningStar
>
>
>Zephera MorningStar wrote:
>
>> Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
>> <BG>
>> Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
>> Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
>> sided tape.....<BG>
>
>I suggest we turn Tales into a pinata....so we can beat him with a stick
>until he comes apart.
I think he has already cracked. His 'Enough' post is proof of that.
Shez
<ho...@earthlink.net> writes
>
>
>Zephera MorningStar wrote:
>
>> Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
>> <BG>
>> Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
>> Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
>> sided tape.....<BG>
>
>I suggest we turn Tales into a pinata....so we can beat him with a stick
>until he comes apart.
I would be more than willing if I knew what a pinata was, (grin)
>
>--
>Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
>************************************************************************
>The Official Archbishop of Spanking
>
>
>
>
--
Cardinal Fang
Shez wrote:
> In article <3744F43B...@earthlink.net>, Cardinal Fang
> <ho...@earthlink.net> writes
> >I suggest we turn Tales into a pinata....so we can beat him with a stick
> >until he comes apart.
>
> I would be more than willing if I knew what a pinata was, (grin)
Well, pardon me, my newsreader can't put a letter and a tilda in the same
space.
Hmmph. +;-)
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <3744F43B...@earthlink.net>, Cardinal Fang
><ho...@earthlink.net> writes
>>
>>
>>Zephera MorningStar wrote:
>>
>>> Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
>>> <BG>
>>> Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
>>> Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
>>> sided tape.....<BG>
>>
>>I suggest we turn Tales into a pinata....so we can beat him with a stick
>>until he comes apart.
>
>I would be more than willing if I knew what a pinata was, (grin)
>>
It is a paper mache effigy, colorfully decorated, filled with sweets a
treats. It usually hung about six foot from the ground. Children are
given sticks to whack at it while they are blind folded. They whack
until it breaks and the treats spill to the ground, which the children
scramble to pick up. It is a traditional game for many holidays in
this area. I heard that it is an old tradition, The original
effigies where made of un fired clay, in the shape of an animal.
Aside from the usual popular cartoon characters, bulls, donkeys, sheep
and goats are still most common.
Shez
<ho...@earthlink.net> writes
>
>
>Shez wrote:
>
>> In article <3744F43B...@earthlink.net>, Cardinal Fang
>> <ho...@earthlink.net> writes
>
>> >until he comes apart.
>>
>> I would be more than willing if I knew what a pinata was, (grin)
>
>space.
>Hmmph. +;-)
I I think I have found your pinata is it spelt piñata and its Mexican,
a hanging jar full of presents and sweets that you hit with sticks until
it breaks. ?
Its in an America dictionary I have on the computer.
I have never heard of that before it sounds like fun, if your thinking
of stuffing talesin in one, can I have a stick please. (grin)
>--
>Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
>************************************************************************
>The Official Archbishop of Spanking
>
>
>
>
--
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <3744F43B...@earthlink.net>, Cardinal Fang
>><ho...@earthlink.net> writes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Party!!!! okay! Well, things are a bit fuzzy after a shezite party
>>>> <BG>
>>>> Throwing fake titties at a fake Boob sounds like a typical game at a
>>>> Shezite party... Did any of them stick? I'm missing a roll of double
>>>> sided tape.....<BG>
>>>
>>>until he comes apart.
>>
>>I would be more than willing if I knew what a pinata was, (grin)
>>>
>
>treats. It usually hung about six foot from the ground. Children are
>given sticks to whack at it while they are blind folded. They whack
>until it breaks and the treats spill to the ground, which the children
>scramble to pick up. It is a traditional game for many holidays in
>this area. I heard that it is an old tradition, The original
>effigies where made of un fired clay, in the shape of an animal.
>Aside from the usual popular cartoon characters, bulls, donkeys, sheep
>and goats are still most common.
>
great, I would love to see that, what a wonderful custom.
Zephera MorningStar
Yes it is a lot of fun. Last Easter Feast we had one of a rabbit. It
was decorated quite fancifully. We were going to do it again this
year but, the dogs had other ideas. I had set the pinata on the porch
while getting things set up. Baby came to see what was up. He took a
fancy to the pretty pink bunny. Next thing I know he's scampering off
with it. Sheba and Bubba come to see what is happening and get in on
the fun. Not much pinata left..... Dogs!!!!
Lauren Foster-MacLeod
And when you make your pinata, make sure it's not TOO well-made, or the
kids will NEVER get it broken , like in that pinat scene in the Steve
Martin movie, "Parenting". It happened to a pinata I made. An adult
finally had to break the thing!
- Laurie
--
Yesterday is history
Tomorrow is a mystery
Today is a gift
That's why they call it "The Present".
Shez
Oh what a shame, you will have to give instructions on making a rabbit
like that for next Easter. it sounds like fun.
I know some of the Mexican customs are very colourful, and very pagan.
:)
Zephera MorningStar
>
>Zephera MorningStar (zeph...@deathsdoor.com) writes:
>> Shez wrote:
>>
>>>In article <374c0eb9...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>Shez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <3744F43B...@earthlink.net>, Cardinal Fang
>>>>><ho...@earthlink.net> writes
snip
>>>>It is a paper mache effigy, colorfully decorated, filled with sweets a
>>>>treats. It usually hung about six foot from the ground. Children are
>>>>given sticks to whack at it while they are blind folded. They whack
>>>>until it breaks and the treats spill to the ground, which the children
>>>>scramble to pick up. It is a traditional game for many holidays in
>>>>this area. I heard that it is an old tradition, The original
>>>>effigies where made of un fired clay, in the shape of an animal.
>>>>Aside from the usual popular cartoon characters, bulls, donkeys, sheep
>>>>and goats are still most common.
>>>>
>>>I found a description in an America dictionary, on line, it sounds
>>>great, I would love to see that, what a wonderful custom.
>>
>> Yes it is a lot of fun. Last Easter Feast we had one of a rabbit. It
>> was decorated quite fancifully. We were going to do it again this
>> year but, the dogs had other ideas. I had set the pinata on the porch
>> while getting things set up. Baby came to see what was up. He took a
>> fancy to the pretty pink bunny. Next thing I know he's scampering off
>> with it. Sheba and Bubba come to see what is happening and get in on
>> the fun. Not much pinata left..... Dogs!!!!
>> ZM*
>
>And when you make your pinata, make sure it's not TOO well-made, or the
>kids will NEVER get it broken , like in that pinat scene in the Steve
>Martin movie, "Parenting". It happened to a pinata I made. An adult
>finally had to break the thing!
>- Laurie
That was a great movie! So true! So true! I like a a lot of Steve
Martin movies. Do you remember is acts before his hair went white?
He's gets better as he gets older.
Lauren Foster-MacLeod
Zephera MorningStar (zeph...@deathsdoor.com) writes:
> ZM*
True. Except - the other night I caught a bit (I lost interest) of 'Father
of the Bride 2' on TV. Kind of like deja vu from 'Parenting', when his
wife becomes pregnant when they're both about to become grandparents. He
better not do that again in another movie, or I'll have a hard time
holding my popcorn down!
Shez
<dz...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> writes
>>>>
>>>I found a description in an America dictionary, on line, it sounds
>>>great, I would love to see that, what a wonderful custom.
>>
>> Yes it is a lot of fun. Last Easter Feast we had one of a rabbit. It
>> was decorated quite fancifully. We were going to do it again this
>> year but, the dogs had other ideas. I had set the pinata on the porch
>> while getting things set up. Baby came to see what was up. He took a
>> fancy to the pretty pink bunny. Next thing I know he's scampering off
>> with it. Sheba and Bubba come to see what is happening and get in on
>> the fun. Not much pinata left..... Dogs!!!!
>> ZM*
>
>And when you make your pinata, make sure it's not TOO well-made, or the
>kids will NEVER get it broken , like in that pinat scene in the Steve
>Martin movie, "Parenting". It happened to a pinata I made. An adult
>finally had to break the thing!
I don't think I have seen that movie, but I take your point, its got to
be just right I suppose, it must not break under the first couple of
blows, and it must break before you have to take an axe to it, (chuckle)
>- Laurie
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <37506d7a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>Shez wrote:
>>
>>Yes it is a lot of fun. Last Easter Feast we had one of a rabbit. It
>>was decorated quite fancifully. We were going to do it again this
>>year but, the dogs had other ideas. I had set the pinata on the porch
>>while getting things set up. Baby came to see what was up. He took a
>>fancy to the pretty pink bunny. Next thing I know he's scampering off
>>with it. Sheba and Bubba come to see what is happening and get in on
>>the fun. Not much pinata left..... Dogs!!!!
>
>Oh what a shame, you will have to give instructions on making a rabbit
>like that for next Easter. it sounds like fun.
Sure... You do know basic Paper mache technique, if you do we can
skip that part of the instructions... I'll type them up and send them
along.
>
>I know some of the Mexican customs are very colourful, and very pagan.
>:)
The Mexican churches are deep in the traditional paganism. There is a
Mexican witch in town. Anglos ignore her, she is very respected by
her own people though.
Zephera MorningStar
>
>Zephera MorningStar (zeph...@deathsdoor.com) writes:
snip
>>>
>>>And when you make your pinata, make sure it's not TOO well-made, or the
>>>kids will NEVER get it broken , like in that pinat scene in the Steve
>>>Martin movie, "Parenting". It happened to a pinata I made. An adult
>>>finally had to break the thing!
>>>- Laurie
>>
>> That was a great movie! So true! So true! I like a a lot of Steve
>> Martin movies. Do you remember is acts before his hair went white?
>> He's gets better as he gets older.
>> ZM*
>
>True. Except - the other night I caught a bit (I lost interest) of 'Father
>of the Bride 2' on TV. Kind of like deja vu from 'Parenting', when his
>wife becomes pregnant when they're both about to become grandparents. He
>better not do that again in another movie, or I'll have a hard time
>holding my popcorn down!
>- Laurie
My father in law is the baby of his family, he has a nephew nine
months older. Looks like grandparents celebrated a bit
enthusiastically!!!!!!!
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <37506d7a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>Shez wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes it is a lot of fun. Last Easter Feast we had one of a rabbit. It
>>>was decorated quite fancifully. We were going to do it again this
>>>year but, the dogs had other ideas. I had set the pinata on the porch
>>>while getting things set up. Baby came to see what was up. He took a
>>>fancy to the pretty pink bunny. Next thing I know he's scampering off
>>>with it. Sheba and Bubba come to see what is happening and get in on
>>>the fun. Not much pinata left..... Dogs!!!!
>>
>>Oh what a shame, you will have to give instructions on making a rabbit
>>like that for next Easter. it sounds like fun.
>
>Sure... You do know basic Paper mache technique, if you do we can
>skip that part of the instructions... I'll type them up and send them
>along.
Sure I used to make small tables and trays, from paper mache, with
Chinese lacquer to harden it.
Lovely messy thing to do,
>
>>
>>I know some of the Mexican customs are very colourful, and very pagan.
>>:)
>
>The Mexican churches are deep in the traditional paganism. There is a
>Mexican witch in town. Anglos ignore her, she is very respected by
>her own people though.
I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
people, the customs and the magicks.
Magick is much the same the world over, but the way people window dress
it is very different.
Zephera MorningStar
Shez wrote:
>In article <37501f0c...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>Shez wrote:
>>
>>>In article <37506d7a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>Shez wrote:
snip>>
>>Sure... You do know basic Paper mache technique, if you do we can
>>skip that part of the instructions... I'll type them up and send them
>>along.
>
>Sure I used to make small tables and trays, from paper mache, with
>Chinese lacquer to harden it.
>Lovely messy thing to do,
When I start a project like that, it's out on the back porch. I have
ten little hands, all wanting to get into it. Everyone has a good
time! The picnic table gets well used. No matter how well I cover
it, some of the mess gets on it. India ink soaks into cedar real
well, don't you know!
>>
>>>
>>>I know some of the Mexican customs are very colourful, and very pagan.
>>>:)
>>
>>The Mexican churches are deep in the traditional paganism. There is a
>>Mexican witch in town. Anglos ignore her, she is very respected by
>>her own people though.
>
>I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
>people, the customs and the magicks.
>Magick is much the same the world over, but the way people window dress
>it is very different.
It is interesting, though, She is accepted and respected by her
people. Even the most Evangelic Fundy Mexican Church would not dare
preach against her. Their pagan roots are more intact.
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <37501f0c...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>Shez wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <37506d7a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>>Shez wrote:
>snip>>
>>>Sure... You do know basic Paper mache technique, if you do we can
>>>skip that part of the instructions... I'll type them up and send them
>>>along.
>>
>>Sure I used to make small tables and trays, from paper mache, with
>>Chinese lacquer to harden it.
>>Lovely messy thing to do,
>
>When I start a project like that, it's out on the back porch. I have
>ten little hands, all wanting to get into it. Everyone has a good
>time! The picnic table gets well used. No matter how well I cover
>it, some of the mess gets on it. India ink soaks into cedar real
>well, don't you know!
I know its quite a few years since I did any paper Mache, so it would be
fun to make the rabbit,
Your lucky to have cedar its really expensive in this country, and a
cedar storage chest would cost an arm and a leg.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I know some of the Mexican customs are very colourful, and very pagan.
>>>>:)
>>>
>>>The Mexican churches are deep in the traditional paganism. There is a
>>>Mexican witch in town. Anglos ignore her, she is very respected by
>>>her own people though.
>>
>>I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
>>people, the customs and the magicks.
>>Magick is much the same the world over, but the way people window dress
>>it is very different.
>
>It is interesting, though, She is accepted and respected by her
>people. Even the most Evangelic Fundy Mexican Church would not dare
>preach against her. Their pagan roots are more intact.
that is good, it shows that the two paths can run side by side,
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <37521b9a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>
>>Shez wrote:
>>
>>>In article <37501f0c...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>Shez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <37506d7a...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>>>Shez wrote:
>>snip>>
>>>>Sure... You do know basic Paper mache technique, if you do we can
>>>>skip that part of the instructions... I'll type them up and send them
>>>>along.
>>>
>>>Sure I used to make small tables and trays, from paper mache, with
>>>Chinese lacquer to harden it.
>>>Lovely messy thing to do,
>>
>>When I start a project like that, it's out on the back porch. I have
>>ten little hands, all wanting to get into it. Everyone has a good
>>time! The picnic table gets well used. No matter how well I cover
>>it, some of the mess gets on it. India ink soaks into cedar real
>>well, don't you know!
>
>I know its quite a few years since I did any paper Mache, so it would be
>fun to make the rabbit,
It is a lot of fun... As soon as I get a chance in the evening I'll
type up the instructions and send them.
>Your lucky to have cedar its really expensive in this country, and a
>cedar storage chest would cost an arm and a leg.
Well, my picnic table is old... It was my In Laws and was wobbly
when we got it... Hubby replace some parts and re-screwes it
together. Now it is nice and solid.... Come to think of it, most of
my furniture is old... Last time I bought any piece of new furniture
was 15 years ago..
>>>I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
>>>people, the customs and the magicks.
>>>Magick is much the same the world over, but the way people window dress
>>>it is very different.
>>
>>It is interesting, though, She is accepted and respected by her
>>people. Even the most Evangelic Fundy Mexican Church would not dare
>>preach against her. Their pagan roots are more intact.
>
>that is good, it shows that the two paths can run side by side,
>>
True, But I think of the two the Pagan roots are deeper. Unlike most
Anglos, they have not been so disassociated from their pagan past, It
is all around them in Mexico... I like the brightly colored art. I
have a Mexican friend, we are discussing writing down some of the old
stories her Grandmother use to tell her... Her family is Native
Mexican Indian... She is sort of reluctant... This is an oral
tradition of her family... Well, we will see. It is her decision and
I'm not going to press it.
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
Snip
>>I know its quite a few years since I did any paper Mache, so it would be
>>fun to make the rabbit,
>
>It is a lot of fun... As soon as I get a chance in the evening I'll
>type up the instructions and send them.
Thanks I would enjoy that.
>
>>Your lucky to have cedar its really expensive in this country, and a
>>cedar storage chest would cost an arm and a leg.
>
>Well, my picnic table is old... It was my In Laws and was wobbly
>when we got it... Hubby replace some parts and re-screwes it
>together. Now it is nice and solid.... Come to think of it, most of
>my furniture is old... Last time I bought any piece of new furniture
>was 15 years ago..
I bought some new bedroom cupboards and drawers and a new bed, in the
last few years, apart from that and my Kitchen which was completely
remodelled about 7 years ago, I don't think I have anything new in the
furniture line.
>
>>>>I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
>>>>people, the customs and the magicks.
>>>>Magick is much the same the world over, but the way people window dress
>>>>it is very different.
>>>
>>>It is interesting, though, She is accepted and respected by her
>>>people. Even the most Evangelic Fundy Mexican Church would not dare
>>>preach against her. Their pagan roots are more intact.
>>
>>that is good, it shows that the two paths can run side by side,
>>>
>
>True, But I think of the two the Pagan roots are deeper. Unlike most
>Anglos, they have not been so disassociated from their pagan past, It
>is all around them in Mexico... I like the brightly colored art.
Its wonderful, I have seen some of it in Britain, and seen some on Tv, I
have not unfortunately seen Mexico, but it looks colourful and full of
Sunshine, somehow very sunny cultures always seem to end up colourful
while the grey rainy ones, seem to end up using drab colours.
> I
>have a Mexican friend, we are discussing writing down some of the old
>stories her Grandmother use to tell her... Her family is Native
>Mexican Indian... She is sort of reluctant... This is an oral
>tradition of her family...
Most people with a family oral tradition are very reluctant to reveal it
to others I know I am, some of it is very private, I have mentioned the
odd story, and some of my own remembrances of my Grandmother, but much
of it is not discussion material its to private.
> Well, we will see. It is her decision and
>I'm not going to press it.
No don't, she might feel that she needs to keep it in the family.
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <37514975...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Snip
>>>I know its quite a few years since I did any paper Mache, so it would be
>>>fun to make the rabbit,
>>
>>It is a lot of fun... As soon as I get a chance in the evening I'll
>>type up the instructions and send them.
>
>Thanks I would enjoy that.
>>
>>>Your lucky to have cedar its really expensive in this country, and a
>>>cedar storage chest would cost an arm and a leg.
>>
>>Well, my picnic table is old... It was my In Laws and was wobbly
>>when we got it... Hubby replace some parts and re-screwes it
>>together. Now it is nice and solid.... Come to think of it, most of
>>my furniture is old... Last time I bought any piece of new furniture
>>was 15 years ago..
>
>I bought some new bedroom cupboards and drawers and a new bed, in the
>last few years, apart from that and my Kitchen which was completely
>remodelled about 7 years ago, I don't think I have anything new in the
>furniture line.
I went furniture shopping with Taz and Wife, just a little while back.
You know how hard it is, when you are just starting out... Tight
budget and all. They wanted some nice stuff, that would last. My
advice is. You get what you pay for. Why buy something cheap, that
you just have to replace in a couple years? Taz is a Big guy, so he
wanted something that would hold up. I went along on their first
shopping trip, to show them what to look for in well made furniture.
Gee! It's fun when you can point to a couch and say " lift that up
and lets take a look to how it is made underneath" Taz just lifted up
one end, with one hand and held it there, as His little Wife and I,
stood under and checked the construction... I think the Salesman was
a little concerned with our lifting the furniture, but he kept looking
at Taz.. So, he waited till we approached him. They bought a lovely
Living room set. I loaned them the extra fifty bucks, to cover the
little extra it went over, what they had planned to spend. But, they
won't have to worry about replacing it for quite a while.
I have recovered my couch quite a few times. The last time was in
wide wale corduroy. Boy! that has held up very well. It is starting
to show a little wear in some spots... I think it will be ready for a
new look in a year.... I'm thinking of an Navajo Rug look... I'll
have to see what is available in sturdy fabric....
>>
>>>>>I should imagine she would be, again its someone who understands the
>>>>>people, the customs and the magicks.
>>
>>True, But I think of the two the Pagan roots are deeper. Unlike most
>>Anglos, they have not been so disassociated from their pagan past, It
>>is all around them in Mexico... I like the brightly colored art.
>
>Its wonderful, I have seen some of it in Britain, and seen some on Tv, I
>have not unfortunately seen Mexico, but it looks colourful and full of
>Sunshine, somehow very sunny cultures always seem to end up colourful
>while the grey rainy ones, seem to end up using drab colours.
>> I
>>have a Mexican friend, we are discussing writing down some of the old
>>stories her Grandmother use to tell her... Her family is Native
>>Mexican Indian... She is sort of reluctant... This is an oral
>>tradition of her family...
>
>Most people with a family oral tradition are very reluctant to reveal it
>to others I know I am, some of it is very private, I have mentioned the
>odd story, and some of my own remembrances of my Grandmother, but much
>of it is not discussion material its to private.
My friend has told me a little bit of her peoples tribal myths... I
was very interested... But these are oral stories and she feels
uncomfortable with having them written... So like I said, I am not
pushing it and I will not write any thing she told me, without her
permission. The stories are quite insightful of her tribe. I think
it is fortunate that her people were able to keep these stories.
My mother is now a family Historian. She is making copies of family
stories that have been horded over the generations... I will have a
set as will each of my sisters. She is making one for my brother, but
he has no interest in it, neither does his currant wife... Maybe his
daughter will want it someday. But, as you say, a lot of it is
private family stuff.
>
>> Well, we will see. It is her decision and
>>I'm not going to press it.
>
>No don't, she might feel that she needs to keep it in the family.
I was pleased she shared a little of it with me..
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
snip
>.
>>
>>I bought some new bedroom cupboards and drawers and a new bed, in the
>>last few years, apart from that and my Kitchen which was completely
>>remodelled about 7 years ago, I don't think I have anything new in the
>>furniture line.
>
>I went furniture shopping with Taz and Wife, just a little while back.
>You know how hard it is, when you are just starting out... Tight
>budget and all. They wanted some nice stuff, that would last. My
>advice is. You get what you pay for. Why buy something cheap, that
>you just have to replace in a couple years? Taz is a Big guy, so he
>wanted something that would hold up. I went along on their first
>shopping trip, to show them what to look for in well made furniture.
>Gee! It's fun when you can point to a couch and say " lift that up
>and lets take a look to how it is made underneath" Taz just lifted up
>one end, with one hand and held it there,
That is a very powerful man , and I bet he married a tiny little
delicate thing . :)
> as His little Wife and I,
>stood under and checked the construction... I think the Salesman was
>a little concerned with our lifting the furniture, but he kept looking
>at Taz.. So, he waited till we approached him. They bought a lovely
>Living room set. I loaned them the extra fifty bucks, to cover the
>little extra it went over, what they had planned to spend. But, they
>won't have to worry about replacing it for quite a while.
It was kind to let them have the extra money, but I would have haggled,
comes from being of a long line of Northern women, nearly everything I
own I have haggled the price down on,
I have often saved myself a hundred pounds or more, people want to sell
you things, and at the moment its a buyers market.
>
>I have recovered my couch quite a few times. The last time was in
>wide wale corduroy.
My couches are covered in corduroy to, and yes I am thinking of
recovering them again. they are getting a bit worn.
snip
>>
>>
>>Most people with a family oral tradition are very reluctant to reveal it
>>to others I know I am, some of it is very private, I have mentioned the
>>odd story, and some of my own remembrances of my Grandmother, but much
>>of it is not discussion material its to private.
>
>My friend has told me a little bit of her peoples tribal myths... I
>was very interested... But these are oral stories and she feels
>uncomfortable with having them written... So like I said, I am not
>pushing it and I will not write any thing she told me, without her
>permission. The stories are quite insightful of her tribe. I think
>it is fortunate that her people were able to keep these stories.
Yes usualy such stories are handed down generation to generation. when a
family is in the same location, I have a clock that belonged to my great
grandmother Maude and a small blue vase that belonged to my great,
great Grandmother Philamina.
>
>My mother is now a family Historian. She is making copies of family
>stories that have been horded over the generations... I will have a
>set as will each of my sisters. She is making one for my brother, but
>he has no interest in it, neither does his currant wife... Maybe his
>daughter will want it someday. But, as you say, a lot of it is
>private family stuff.
That's a lovely idea, I have been keeping such old stories for a very
long time now, many of them are still in my head, but I do write them
down when I can, sometimes a conversation or a memory will jog them
lose, and that's the best way, they come back like a flood
>
>>
>>> Well, we will see. It is her decision and
>>>I'm not going to press it.
>>
>>No don't, she might feel that she needs to keep it in the family.
>
>I was pleased she shared a little of it with me..
Yes, its wonderful she did, that is a very personal thing.
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <37537eca...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>Shez wrote:
>snip
>
>>.
>>>
>>>I bought some new bedroom cupboards and drawers and a new bed, in the
>>>last few years, apart from that and my Kitchen which was completely
>>>remodelled about 7 years ago, I don't think I have anything new in the
>>>furniture line.
>>
>>I went furniture shopping with Taz and Wife, just a little while back.
>>You know how hard it is, when you are just starting out... Tight
>>budget and all. They wanted some nice stuff, that would last. My
>>advice is. You get what you pay for. Why buy something cheap, that
>>you just have to replace in a couple years? Taz is a Big guy, so he
>>wanted something that would hold up. I went along on their first
>>shopping trip, to show them what to look for in well made furniture.
>>Gee! It's fun when you can point to a couch and say " lift that up
>>and lets take a look to how it is made underneath" Taz just lifted up
>>one end, with one hand and held it there,
>
>That is a very powerful man , and I bet he married a tiny little
>delicate thing . :)
She is 4 ft 7 in. very small bones. She is 20 and looks 14.
Watching them together is sweet... Taz is like a giant bear, she is
like a tiny little kitten..
>> as His little Wife and I,
>>stood under and checked the construction... I think the Salesman was
>>a little concerned with our lifting the furniture, but he kept looking
>>at Taz.. So, he waited till we approached him. They bought a lovely
>>Living room set. I loaned them the extra fifty bucks, to cover the
>>little extra it went over, what they had planned to spend. But, they
>>won't have to worry about replacing it for quite a while.
>
>It was kind to let them have the extra money, but I would have haggled,
>comes from being of a long line of Northern women, nearly everything I
>own I have haggled the price down on,
Oh! we haggled the price down, saved about a 100 dollars. Taz and I
loaded the furniture into the back of the pick up ourselves. Taz paid
me back out of his next pay check... I don't worry about loaning
money to them...
>I have often saved myself a hundred pounds or more, people want to sell
>you things, and at the moment its a buyers market.
Oh, I get the best price I can for what I buy.. I work hard for my
money, I'm gonna squeeze everything I can out of it. I also do a bit
of barter....
>>
>>I have recovered my couch quite a few times. The last time was in
>>wide wale corduroy.
>My couches are covered in corduroy to, and yes I am thinking of
>recovering them again. they are getting a bit worn.
The corduroy has been the best stuff I have covered it in... It also
has that soft comfortable look and feel. I am very tempted to use it
again... I look at that soft old thing and try to see what would
suit... It looks good in a dark moss green... The color it is now.
Maybe if I take a nap on it... It will tell me which color it would
like to be..<SG>
>
>snip
>
>Yes usualy such stories are handed down generation to generation. when a
>family is in the same location, I have a clock that belonged to my great
>grandmother Maude and a small blue vase that belonged to my great,
>great Grandmother Philamina.
I have a lot of little treasures... When, my mother's mum died, I got
some of her dressmaking things... One thing that I treasure Highly is
a very old candy tin, inside are several dozen wooden spools of silk
sewing thread. Underneath the spools is a card, with a "very"
personal note from my grandad... That tin is in my cedar chest. What
also pleases me about it was.. My cousin had run off with the lion's
share of Gran's sewing stuff. She has disregarded the old worn tin
and its old threads... No one knew about the note in the bottom. I
guess Gran meant for me to have it... It is also interesting is that
Gran and Pop separated long before I was born.. Yet she kept that tin
and note... I grew up seeing that tin on her sewing table... I now
know it was special to her. I also have her wooden darning ball and
her shears... These thing stay together, to me they say the most
about my grandmother. My cedar chest was my G'G' Aunt's and it is
full of things of that nature.
One day I was putting a memento away. My daughter was watching me.
She like to see all my treasures. I have a clay cat that my Baby
sister made me in when she was in kindergarten. It is all lumpy and
painted crudely. She was 5 when she made it. It is the cat I had at
the time. I picked it up and kissed it. My daughter asked why I did
that. I told her I was giving my Baby Sis a kiss that way... Really,
I was giving my 5 year old Baby Sis a kiss.
>
>That's a lovely idea, I have been keeping such old stories for a very
>long time now, many of them are still in my head, but I do write them
>down when I can, sometimes a conversation or a memory will jog them
>lose, and that's the best way, they come back like a flood
My cedar chest treasures are documented, for my children. When I get
my copy of the Family History that will go in the bottom drawer of my
Marble top Dresser, which is also a family heirloom.
I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
things.
Shez
I have found often that large or very tall men tend to marry tiny
delicate types, and those lady's know how to get the best out of their
men, they might look like delicate china. but they tend to have more in
common with tigers. (chuckle)
>
>>> as His little Wife and I,
>>>stood under and checked the construction... I think the Salesman was
>>>a little concerned with our lifting the furniture, but he kept looking
>>>at Taz.. So, he waited till we approached him. They bought a lovely
>>>Living room set. I loaned them the extra fifty bucks, to cover the
>>>little extra it went over, what they had planned to spend. But, they
>>>won't have to worry about replacing it for quite a while.
>>
>>It was kind to let them have the extra money, but I would have haggled,
>>comes from being of a long line of Northern women, nearly everything I
>>own I have haggled the price down on,
>
>Oh! we haggled the price down, saved about a 100 dollars. Taz and I
>loaded the furniture into the back of the pick up ourselves. Taz paid
>me back out of his next pay check... I don't worry about loaning
>money to them...
Their are folks that you know you can trust and others that no matter
what their good intentions are they never get round to paying you back.
I rarely lend money only to those who are very close, and I don't borrow
money.
Mind you saying that, Linda my friend and I seem to have £5 going
between us like a yo-yo, I either owe it to her , or she owes it to me.
:)
>
>>I have often saved myself a hundred pounds or more, people want to sell
>>you things, and at the moment its a buyers market.
>
>Oh, I get the best price I can for what I buy.. I work hard for my
>money, I'm gonna squeeze everything I can out of it. I also do a bit
>of barter....
I enjoy it actually, its fun, and it means you got value for money, I
know many wiccans will not bargain for their tools or equipment, and I
find that quite strange, especially when I see the hiked up prices in
some of the pagan stores.
In one local to me, I can usually haggle the price down by a third at
least, and we both enjoy it. (grin)
In Arabian country's your regarded as an idiot if you pay the full
price, you can get up to 50% off by haggling, sometimes even more. the
prices are doubled and trebled for tourists.
>
>>>
>>>I have recovered my couch quite a few times. The last time was in
>>>wide wale corduroy.
>>My couches are covered in corduroy to, and yes I am thinking of
>>recovering them again. they are getting a bit worn.
>
>The corduroy has been the best stuff I have covered it in... It also
>has that soft comfortable look and feel. I am very tempted to use it
>again... I look at that soft old thing and try to see what would
>suit... It looks good in a dark moss green... The color it is now.
>Maybe if I take a nap on it... It will tell me which color it would
>like to be..<SG>
In fact I am going to a dark moss green when I can find the colour, my
carpet is beige with a moss green stripe running around the centre of
the carpet giving a look of a roman or Greek border. I am changing the
curtain and covers to match that green stripe.
Mine are black at the moment and were brown before that.
>
>>
>>snip
>>
>>Yes usualy such stories are handed down generation to generation. when a
>>family is in the same location, I have a clock that belonged to my great
>>grandmother Maude and a small blue vase that belonged to my great,
>>great Grandmother Philamina.
>
>I have a lot of little treasures... When, my mother's mum died, I got
>some of her dressmaking things... One thing that I treasure Highly is
>a very old candy tin, inside are several dozen wooden spools of silk
>sewing thread. Underneath the spools is a card, with a "very"
>personal note from my grandad... That tin is in my cedar chest. What
>also pleases me about it was.. My cousin had run off with the lion's
>share of Gran's sewing stuff. She has disregarded the old worn tin
>and its old threads... No one knew about the note in the bottom. I
>guess Gran meant for me to have it... It is also interesting is that
>Gran and Pop separated long before I was born.. Yet she kept that tin
>and note... I grew up seeing that tin on her sewing table... I now
>know it was special to her. I also have her wooden darning ball and
>her shears... These thing stay together, to me they say the most
>about my grandmother. My cedar chest was my G'G' Aunt's and it is
>full of things of that nature.
A sort of family memory box, we have a pair of china fire dogs,
Staffordshire china, that were popular in about 1750 from my hubby's
side of the family they are in a glass cabinet in the kitchen we had to
insure them and several other things separately including oil paintings
and an Indian dinner service in a lovely blue pattern.
We have a china tea set for two that even has china teaspoons, Three
large Norfolk milk jugs, in brown and beige slip with a silver rim, and
the pattern of horses ploughing on the top of the jugs. we have three of
those all different sizes. which was normal, the biggest is big enough
for about 5ltrs of milk. the maid would take it out to the milk cart to
be filled, for the household for that day. I even have some of the
little cotton and lace covers weighted with beads, to keep the top of
the jug covered, stopping flies and insects flying in.
I have an Indian Teapot in the most brilliant jewel colours Its an
elephant and its keeper. its trunk is the spout and its tail the handle,
and the covers on its back are jewel bright.
I have quite a bit of Indian stuff, and some Chinese from one of Ken's
great Grandfathers who travelled to those country's.
In fact I have a loft full of things that were passed on that I don't
have the room to display, they will be passed on to my family in due
time.
>
>One day I was putting a memento away. My daughter was watching me.
>She like to see all my treasures. I have a clay cat that my Baby
>sister made me in when she was in kindergarten. It is all lumpy and
>painted crudely. She was 5 when she made it. It is the cat I had at
>the time. I picked it up and kissed it. My daughter asked why I did
>that. I told her I was giving my Baby Sis a kiss that way... Really,
>I was giving my 5 year old Baby Sis a kiss.
I have an ashtray still used but now for pot pourie its the shape of a
brick and the inside is enamelled its beautiful my cousin made it for
me about 3o years ago, I also have a tiny bedroom chair in wood, with a
little mouse running up it,
It was made by a very famous carpenter in Yorkshire, 60 years or so ago,
and his trademark was the little mouse.
>
>>
>>That's a lovely idea, I have been keeping such old stories for a very
>>long time now, many of them are still in my head, but I do write them
>>down when I can, sometimes a conversation or a memory will jog them
>>lose, and that's the best way, they come back like a flood
>
>My cedar chest treasures are documented, for my children. When I get
>my copy of the Family History that will go in the bottom drawer of my
>Marble top Dresser, which is also a family heirloom.
These things get passed on, their will be more when my mother and Aunt
die, no doubt. But china cabinets full of the little bits and pieces
ornaments and so on, are not my style. I don't like ornaments that much
Which is why I had built in cupboards with glass doors built into the
kitchen to keep some of those things on display, I am not fond of
ornaments so it was about the only Way I could do it, We also have a
Welsh Dresser type cupboard, and the Indian dinner service is displayed
on that. We use it at least once a year (very carefully) such things
should be used.
>I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
>gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
>identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
>my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
>things.
Very much so, the Grandmother clock that has passed down the female side
of the family has a small brass plaque inside with the name of all the
women in the family it belonged to.
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <3754c677...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>Shez wrote:
>>
>>>In article <37537eca...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>><zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>>>>Shez wrote:
>snip
>>
>>>That is a very powerful man , and I bet he married a tiny little
>>>delicate thing . :)
>>
>>She is 4 ft 7 in. very small bones. She is 20 and looks 14.
>>Watching them together is sweet... Taz is like a giant bear, she is
>>like a tiny little kitten..
>
>I have found often that large or very tall men tend to marry tiny
>delicate types, and those lady's know how to get the best out of their
>men, they might look like delicate china. but they tend to have more in
>common with tigers. (chuckle)
I have to say, she brings out the best in him... Their baby is going
to be a girl... He is going to be one proud and protective daddy...
snip>>
>>Oh! we haggled the price down, saved about a 100 dollars. Taz and I
>>loaded the furniture into the back of the pick up ourselves. Taz paid
>>me back out of his next pay check... I don't worry about loaning
>>money to them...
>
>Their are folks that you know you can trust and others that no matter
>what their good intentions are they never get round to paying you back.
>I rarely lend money only to those who are very close, and I don't borrow
>money.
>Mind you saying that, Linda my friend and I seem to have ?5 going
>between us like a yo-yo, I either owe it to her , or she owes it to me.
One girlfriend and I are always trading a lunch back and forth...
Pocket change gets exchanged a lot, too..
snip
>I enjoy it actually, its fun, and it means you got value for money, I
>know many wiccans will not bargain for their tools or equipment, and I
>find that quite strange, especially when I see the hiked up prices in
>some of the pagan stores.
Most times I find or make what I need.... A friend of mine, gave me
some buffalo bones a couple of weeks ago, when we were at the Lake. I
plan to make runes from them. He said he is going to try to get a
skull. He has a friend that works at a specialty slaughter house...
>In one local to me, I can usually haggle the price down by a third at
>least, and we both enjoy it. (grin)
A good haggle is always enjoyable
>In Arabian country's your regarded as an idiot if you pay the full
>price, you can get up to 50% off by haggling, sometimes even more. the
>prices are doubled and trebled for tourists.
Always aim for the suckers.
snip
>In fact I am going to a dark moss green when I can find the colour, my
>carpet is beige with a moss green stripe running around the centre of
>the carpet giving a look of a roman or Greek border. I am changing the
>curtain and covers to match that green stripe.
>Mine are black at the moment and were brown before that.
My couch started out red, then a deep rust.... I'm thinking of a
terra cotta, now. I have some quilt squares made from some bright
Indian Madras Plaids... They would look so good as throw pillows on a
terra cotta couch.
snip
>A sort of family memory box, we have a pair of china fire dogs,
>Staffordshire china, that were popular in about 1750 from my hubby's
>side of the family they are in a glass cabinet in the kitchen we had to
>insure them and several other things separately including oil paintings
>and an Indian dinner service in a lovely blue pattern.
>We have a china tea set for two that even has china teaspoons, Three
>large Norfolk milk jugs, in brown and beige slip with a silver rim, and
>the pattern of horses ploughing on the top of the jugs. we have three of
>those all different sizes. which was normal, the biggest is big enough
>for about 5ltrs of milk. the maid would take it out to the milk cart to
>be filled, for the household for that day. I even have some of the
>little cotton and lace covers weighted with beads, to keep the top of
>the jug covered, stopping flies and insects flying in.
I don't have things setting out... Not with 5 kids and 5 cats... My
china cabinet has my parents wedding china, my G'aunt's Amethyst glass
Tea and Dessert set and my G' grandmothers Pink Glass punch set. I
have some miss-matched antique plates hanging on the wall in the
Dinning room wall for decoration. But most of my keepsakes and
treasures are put safely away.
>
>I have an Indian Teapot in the most brilliant jewel colours Its an
>elephant and its keeper. its trunk is the spout and its tail the handle,
>and the covers on its back are jewel bright.
I love Tea Pots... I don't buy them cuz I've no place to put them to
be seen that's safe.
>
>I have quite a bit of Indian stuff, and some Chinese from one of Ken's
>great Grandfathers who travelled to those country's.
>In fact I have a loft full of things that were passed on that I don't
>have the room to display, they will be passed on to my family in due
>time.
I have so much put away for the kids...
>I have an ashtray still used but now for pot pourie its the shape of a
>brick and the inside is enamelled its beautiful my cousin made it for
>me about 3o years ago, I also have a tiny bedroom chair in wood, with a
>little mouse running up it,
>It was made by a very famous carpenter in Yorkshire, 60 years or so ago,
>and his trademark was the little mouse.
I have a matching wicker Doll Pram and Child's Rocking Chair.. My dad
got them from a friend of a relative just after I was born. They were
made in 1894... The maker signed and dated all of his work.. He was
quite famous in the Lake George area, for his childrens' furniture....
He died in 1931.
>
>These things get passed on, their will be more when my mother and Aunt
>die, no doubt. But china cabinets full of the little bits and pieces
>ornaments and so on, are not my style. I don't like ornaments that much
I'm not a Knick Knack person either... Husband is a Packrat but he's
not a Knick Knack person... Tables and shelves are used for books and
such.
>
>Which is why I had built in cupboards with glass doors built into the
>kitchen to keep some of those things on display, I am not fond of
>ornaments so it was about the only Way I could do it, We also have a
>Welsh Dresser type cupboard, and the Indian dinner service is displayed
>on that. We use it at least once a year (very carefully) such things
>should be used.
Of course they should be used. At least once a year. I set my table
in splendor... China, silver, crystal, linen and flowers... and the
best food to go on them.
>
>>I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
>>gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
>>identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
>>my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
>>things.
>
>Very much so, the Grandmother clock that has passed down the female side
>of the family has a small brass plaque inside with the name of all the
>women in the family it belonged to.
>>
My Daughter can't wait to be the 7th name on the inside of the Marble
top Dresser.
Shez
Snip
>She is 4 ft 7 in. very small bones. She is 20 and looks 14.
>>>Watching them together is sweet... Taz is like a giant bear, she is
>>>like a tiny little kitten..
>>
>>I have found often that large or very tall men tend to marry tiny
>>delicate types, and those lady's know how to get the best out of their
>>men, they might look like delicate china. but they tend to have more in
>>common with tigers. (chuckle)
>
>I have to say, she brings out the best in him... Their baby is going
>to be a girl... He is going to be one proud and protective daddy...
They usualy are, my tall husband is just the same. and my daughter is
definitely a daddy's girl, she thinks her dad is wonderful.
>
>snip>>
>
Bargains and haggling.
>>I enjoy it actually, its fun, and it means you got value for money, I
>>know many wiccans will not bargain for their tools or equipment, and I
>>find that quite strange, especially when I see the hiked up prices in
>>some of the pagan stores.
>
>Most times I find or make what I need.... A friend of mine, gave me
>some buffalo bones a couple of weeks ago, when we were at the Lake. I
>plan to make runes from them. He said he is going to try to get a
>skull. He has a friend that works at a specialty slaughter house...
Oh I have no interest in bones, but I love my tiny roman oil lamp, and a
few other bits and pieces I have collected or been given, the lamp is
2000 years old, and still works, I put olive oil and a mullen wick into
it, and it gives a wonderful steady light.
I couldn't resist, I just had to see how well they worked, it they
seeped oil (they do but very slowly) and how bright the illumination
was, its more than a couple of candles.
>
>>In one local to me, I can usually haggle the price down by a third at
>>least, and we both enjoy it. (grin)
>
>A good haggle is always enjoyable
Yes especially when you go home display your treasure and tell hubby how
much you have saved him (grin) men don't really understand about that,
they say but it cost so and so, and we say, Yes but I saved so and so,
(grin) it confuses them.
>
>>In Arabian country's your regarded as an idiot if you pay the full
>>price, you can get up to 50% off by haggling, sometimes even more. the
>>prices are doubled and trebled for tourists.
>
>Always aim for the suckers.
that's the one, and I hate to say it, but Americans are their favourite
tourists. the French Germans, and English and the Italians all haggle.
:)
>
>snip
>
>>In fact I am going to a dark moss green when I can find the colour, my
>>carpet is beige with a moss green stripe running around the centre of
>>the carpet giving a look of a roman or Greek border. I am changing the
>>curtain and covers to match that green stripe.
>>Mine are black at the moment and were brown before that.
>
>My couch started out red, then a deep rust.... I'm thinking of a
>terra cotta, now. I have some quilt squares made from some bright
>Indian Madras Plaids... They would look so good as throw pillows on a
>terra cotta couch.
That sounds nice.
>
>snip
>
>I don't have things setting out... Not with 5 kids and 5 cats... My
>china cabinet has my parents wedding china, my G'aunt's Amethyst glass
>Tea and Dessert set and my G' grandmothers Pink Glass punch set. I
>have some miss-matched antique plates hanging on the wall in the
>Dinning room wall for decoration. But most of my keepsakes and
>treasures are put safely away.
I couldn't when the children were small, but when we remodelled the
kitchen, we could include those large cupboards with leaded glass which
suits the antiques, most of the stuff in it is very much kitchen things,
like the teapot, milk jug, and tea, and dinner service, I also have a
half a dozen small bowls made by one of the best potters this country
has ever produced. His daughter gave them to me on his death. they are
superb. with an almost rainbow like glaze as the light touches them its
like looking at oil on water. the colours constantly change,
>
>>
>>I have an Indian Teapot in the most brilliant jewel colours Its an
>>elephant and its keeper. its trunk is the spout and its tail the handle,
>>and the covers on its back are jewel bright.
>
>I love Tea Pots... I don't buy them cuz I've no place to put them to
>be seen that's safe.
I have about a dozen, from the old brown betty's made at the end of the
last century, to the Indian Elephant which is late 18th century.
>
>>
>>I have quite a bit of Indian stuff, and some Chinese from one of Ken's
>>great Grandfathers who travelled to those country's.
>>In fact I have a loft full of things that were passed on that I don't
>>have the room to display, they will be passed on to my family in due
>>time.
>
>I have so much put away for the kids...
I have a suitcase full of antique dolls wrapped in tissue paper.
and all sorts of other odds and ends, and several very old oil
paintings, large and small including one of gillys in Scotland leading a
horse with a great stag slung over its back, and wonderful mountains in
the background.
>
>>I have an ashtray still used but now for pot pourie its the shape of a
>>brick and the inside is enamelled its beautiful my cousin made it for
>>me about 3o years ago, I also have a tiny bedroom chair in wood, with a
>>little mouse running up it,
>>It was made by a very famous carpenter in Yorkshire, 60 years or so ago,
>>and his trademark was the little mouse.
>
>I have a matching wicker Doll Pram and Child's Rocking Chair.. My dad
>got them from a friend of a relative just after I was born. They were
>made in 1894... The maker signed and dated all of his work.. He was
>quite famous in the Lake George area, for his childrens' furniture....
>He died in 1931.
That will be lovely to pass on to.
>
>>
>>These things get passed on, their will be more when my mother and Aunt
>>die, no doubt. But china cabinets full of the little bits and pieces
>>ornaments and so on, are not my style. I don't like ornaments that much
>
>I'm not a Knick Knack person either... Husband is a Packrat but he's
>not a Knick Knack person... Tables and shelves are used for books and
>such.
>
Books are my real love, and I collected some very old editions,
including a hand made on parchment copy, of Oscar Wilds Little prince,
>>
>>Which is why I had built in cupboards with glass doors built into the
>>kitchen to keep some of those things on display, I am not fond of
>>ornaments so it was about the only Way I could do it, We also have a
>>Welsh Dresser type cupboard, and the Indian dinner service is displayed
>>on that. We use it at least once a year (very carefully) such things
>>should be used.
>
>Of course they should be used. At least once a year. I set my table
>in splendor... China, silver, crystal, linen and flowers... and the
>best food to go on them.
We do to, the full silver service, and all the wine glasses, water
glasses and a centre piece, usualy at Yule, so we also set out Xmas
Crackers on every plate which everyone enjoys pulling
>
>>
>>>I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
>>>gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
>>>identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
>>>my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
>>>things.
Its important to people to feel they have a history, which is why I am
always so suprised that America knocks down so much of their history.
>>
>>Very much so, the Grandmother clock that has passed down the female side
>>of the family has a small brass plaque inside with the name of all the
>>women in the family it belonged to.
>>>
>
>My Daughter can't wait to be the 7th name on the inside of the Marble
>top Dresser.
My daughter cant wait until she gets her clock, and that will be soon,
because its always passed on before whoever owns it dies, so that no
mistakes are made.
Zephera MorningStar
>In article <37555cc6...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>Snip
>>
>>I have to say, she brings out the best in him... Their baby is going
>>to be a girl... He is going to be one proud and protective daddy...
>
>They usualy are, my tall husband is just the same. and my daughter is
>definitely a daddy's girl, she thinks her dad is wonderful.
My daughter is her Daddy's Girl, too. She also favors his looks. She
got my blonde hair and blue eyes, but she has more of his features and
has his tall slender build.
>>
>>snip>>
>>
>Bargains and haggling.
>>>I enjoy it actually, its fun, and it means you got value for money, I
>>>know many wiccans will not bargain for their tools or equipment, and I
>>>find that quite strange, especially when I see the hiked up prices in
>>>some of the pagan stores.
>>
>>Most times I find or make what I need.... A friend of mine, gave me
>>some buffalo bones a couple of weeks ago, when we were at the Lake. I
>>plan to make runes from them. He said he is going to try to get a
>>skull. He has a friend that works at a specialty slaughter house...
>
>Oh I have no interest in bones, but I love my tiny roman oil lamp, and a
>few other bits and pieces I have collected or been given, the lamp is
>2000 years old, and still works, I put olive oil and a mullen wick into
>it, and it gives a wonderful steady light.
I have made such an oil lamp... Long time ago... They work very
well.
>I couldn't resist, I just had to see how well they worked, it they
>seeped oil (they do but very slowly) and how bright the illumination
>was, its more than a couple of candles.
I like lamps and candles... I like flames... I like to have a candle
lit on my desk when I am working.
>>
>>>In one local to me, I can usually haggle the price down by a third at
>>>least, and we both enjoy it. (grin)
>>
>>A good haggle is always enjoyable
>
>Yes especially when you go home display your treasure and tell hubby how
>much you have saved him (grin) men don't really understand about that,
>they say but it cost so and so, and we say, Yes but I saved so and so,
>(grin) it confuses them.
Generally, I never get questioned about what I buy... He looks at my
latest treasures and listens to me chatter about it... We keep each
other informed about what we are spending, and we both know our
budget. We are both happy if we don't spend as much as we thought we
would. He is a Haggler, too. Actually I think he is much better than
I am.
>>snip
snip the Terra Cotta Couch
>>snip
>>
>>I don't have things setting out... Not with 5 kids and 5 cats... My
>>china cabinet has my parents wedding china, my G'aunt's Amethyst glass
>>Tea and Dessert set and my G' grandmothers Pink Glass punch set. I
>>have some miss-matched antique plates hanging on the wall in the
>>Dinning room wall for decoration. But most of my keepsakes and
>>treasures are put safely away.
>
>I couldn't when the children were small, but when we remodelled the
>kitchen, we could include those large cupboards with leaded glass which
>suits the antiques, most of the stuff in it is very much kitchen things,
>like the teapot, milk jug, and tea, and dinner service, I also have a
>half a dozen small bowls made by one of the best potters this country
>has ever produced. His daughter gave them to me on his death. they are
>superb. with an almost rainbow like glaze as the light touches them its
>like looking at oil on water. the colours constantly change,
I have several pottery items that were made by friends... 1 teapot
and Two matching cups... They were a wedding gift.. Some bowls and
vases.... I like the muted and earth tone glazes... I do have a vase
that a silver metallic glaze was used... It almost glows. It was a
gift from a very close friend.. He gave it to me the last time we
ever saw each other.... He had made it just for me. It is a lovely
thing.
>>I have so much put away for the kids...
>
>I have a suitcase full of antique dolls wrapped in tissue paper.
>and all sorts of other odds and ends, and several very old oil
>paintings, large and small including one of gillys in Scotland leading a
>horse with a great stag slung over its back, and wonderful mountains in
>the background.
Yep, all kinds of stuff like that. Packed away. Maybe when the kids
are out and on their own I pull some of it out and display...
Probably change it around as it suits me.
>>I'm not a Knick Knack person either... Husband is a Packrat but he's
>>not a Knick Knack person... Tables and shelves are used for books and
>>such.
>>
>Books are my real love, and I collected some very old editions,
>including a hand made on parchment copy, of Oscar Wilds Little prince,
We have books all over the house... 'Sept the bathrooms... If there
were any in there, no one would ever come out!!!!!! <gggg>
>>>
>>>Which is why I had built in cupboards with glass doors built into the
>>>kitchen to keep some of those things on display, I am not fond of
>>>ornaments so it was about the only Way I could do it, We also have a
>>>Welsh Dresser type cupboard, and the Indian dinner service is displayed
>>>on that. We use it at least once a year (very carefully) such things
>>>should be used.
>>
>>Of course they should be used. At least once a year. I set my table
>>in splendor... China, silver, crystal, linen and flowers... and the
>>best food to go on them.
>
>We do to, the full silver service, and all the wine glasses, water
>glasses and a centre piece, usualy at Yule, so we also set out Xmas
>Crackers on every plate which everyone enjoys pulling
Yes, it is usually during Yule, I do the Big Bash... It is the Family
Tradition of a special feast at that time of year. My Daughter loves
getting out Aunty Opal's relish dish collection and setting up the
condiments on the buffet.
>>
>>>
>>>>I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
>>>>gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
>>>>identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
>>>>my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
>>>>things.
>
>Its important to people to feel they have a history, which is why I am
>always so suprised that America knocks down so much of their history.
My Brother doesn't give a Hooty about history.... I don't think many
do... Old house... Needs fixed... Tear it down, build new one that
doesn't need fixed all the time.... He thought of our old Carriage
house was a hole in which we threw money....
>>My Daughter can't wait to be the 7th name on the inside of the Marbletop dresser.
>
>My daughter cant wait until she gets her clock, and that will be soon,
>because its always passed on before whoever owns it dies, so that no
>mistakes are made.
Yea, will be doing that... However, everyone knows who gets what.
Shez
<zeph...@deathsdoor.com> writes
>Shez wrote:
>
>>In article <37555cc6...@news.amaonline.com>, Zephera MorningStar
>>Snip
>>>
>>>I have to say, she brings out the best in him... Their baby is going
>>>to be a girl... He is going to be one proud and protective daddy...
>>
>>They usualy are, my tall husband is just the same. and my daughter is
>>definitely a daddy's girl, she thinks her dad is wonderful.
>
>My daughter is her Daddy's Girl, too. She also favors his looks. She
>got my blonde hair and blue eyes, but she has more of his features and
>has his tall slender build.
I guess most daughters are daddy's girls, I was to, I loved my Dad very
much.
>
>>>
>>>snip>>
>>>
snip
>>
>>Oh I have no interest in bones, but I love my tiny roman oil lamp, and a
>>few other bits and pieces I have collected or been given, the lamp is
>>2000 years old, and still works, I put olive oil and a mullen wick into
>>it, and it gives a wonderful steady light.
>
>I have made such an oil lamp... Long time ago... They work very
>well.
Amazingly well.
>
>>I couldn't resist, I just had to see how well they worked, it they
>>seeped oil (they do but very slowly) and how bright the illumination
>>was, its more than a couple of candles.
>
>I like lamps and candles... I like flames... I like to have a candle
>lit on my desk when I am working.
I love candles to, and oil lamps, they are so much softer and more
suited to the night.
>
>>>
>>>>In one local to me, I can usually haggle the price down by a third at
>>>>least, and we both enjoy it. (grin)
>>>
>>>A good haggle is always enjoyable
>>
>>Yes especially when you go home display your treasure and tell hubby how
>>much you have saved him (grin) men don't really understand about that,
>>they say but it cost so and so, and we say, Yes but I saved so and so,
>>(grin) it confuses them.
>
>Generally, I never get questioned about what I buy... He looks at my
>latest treasures and listens to me chatter about it... We keep each
>other informed about what we are spending, and we both know our
>budget. We are both happy if we don't spend as much as we thought we
>would. He is a Haggler, too. Actually I think he is much better than
>I am.
That's unusual mostly men get confused if you tell them how much you
saved, they cant quite correlate it with your spending money, Ken
doesn't mind what I buy, he just gets confused when I try to explain how
much money I saved. (grin)
>>>snip
>>
>>I couldn't when the children were small, but when we remodelled the
>>kitchen, we could include those large cupboards with leaded glass which
>>suits the antiques, most of the stuff in it is very much kitchen things,
>>like the teapot, milk jug, and tea, and dinner service, I also have a
>>half a dozen small bowls made by one of the best potters this country
>>has ever produced. His daughter gave them to me on his death. they are
>>superb. with an almost rainbow like glaze as the light touches them its
>>like looking at oil on water. the colours constantly change,
>
>I have several pottery items that were made by friends... 1 teapot
>and Two matching cups... They were a wedding gift.. Some bowls and
>vases.... I like the muted and earth tone glazes... I do have a vase
>that a silver metallic glaze was used... It almost glows. It was a
>gift from a very close friend.. He gave it to me the last time we
>ever saw each other.... He had made it just for me. It is a lovely
>thing.
it sounds beautiful.
>
>>>I have so much put away for the kids...
>>
>>I have a suitcase full of antique dolls wrapped in tissue paper.
>>and all sorts of other odds and ends, and several very old oil
>>paintings, large and small including one of gillys in Scotland leading a
>>horse with a great stag slung over its back, and wonderful mountains in
>>the background.
>
>Yep, all kinds of stuff like that. Packed away. Maybe when the kids
>are out and on their own I pull some of it out and display...
>Probably change it around as it suits me.
>>>I'm not a Knick Knack person either... Husband is a Packrat but he's
>>>not a Knick Knack person... Tables and shelves are used for books and
>>>such.
>>>
>>Books are my real love, and I collected some very old editions,
>>including a hand made on parchment copy, of Oscar Wilds Little prince,
>
>We have books all over the house... 'Sept the bathrooms... If there
>were any in there, no one would ever come out!!!!!! <gggg>
Well we have a separate toilet upstairs so I keep the odd short story or
cartoon book in their , Giles, usually, people really do appreciate
reading materials in the toilet, I even put a huge crossword on one
wall, and a pen attached to a huge piece of string, it suprised me how
quickly it got filled in,
>
snip
>>
>>We do to, the full silver service, and all the wine glasses, water
>>glasses and a centre piece, usualy at Yule, so we also set out Xmas
>>Crackers on every plate which everyone enjoys pulling
>
>Yes, it is usually during Yule, I do the Big Bash... It is the Family
>Tradition of a special feast at that time of year. My Daughter loves
>getting out Aunty Opal's relish dish collection and setting up the
>condiments on the buffet.
Children enjoy family ritual, and that is a ritual, that has many happy
memories attached.
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I believe that this sort of thing is important for the children... It
>>>>>gives them a way to feel connected to where they came from. They can
>>>>>identify with the people who had a part in making them. Even though
>>>>>my daughter never met her G' Gran... She can know her by these little
>>>>>things.
>>
>>Its important to people to feel they have a history, which is why I am
>>always so suprised that America knocks down so much of their history.
>
>My Brother doesn't give a Hooty about history.... I don't think many
>do... Old house... Needs fixed... Tear it down, build new one that
>doesn't need fixed all the time.... He thought of our old Carriage
>house was a hole in which we threw money....
Sigh) I can never understand why people want to tear down their history,
I guess its just something I never will understand
>
>>>My Daughter can't wait to be the 7th name on the inside of the Marbletop
>dresser.
>>
>>My daughter cant wait until she gets her clock, and that will be soon,
>>because its always passed on before whoever owns it dies, so that no
>>mistakes are made.
>
>Yea, will be doing that... However, everyone knows who gets what.
With the clock its not left to chance, believe me in a large family its
suprising what some people will walk away with if they got the chance,
we had an Aunt by marriage, that would come to any funeral and sort
picking up knack knacks, she ended up being banned, she was picking up
stuff where one partner was still alive, and that can cause a lot of
distress.