Personal Magick & Academic Astrology

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EVOLUTION VERSUS DEVOLUTION

the stages that accompany personal and
planetary evolution as concern astrology and magick

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ASTROLOGY

Since modern man is unnatural by definition, it is impossible to
persuade one into a primitive belief, such as in the real sky above
our heads. For modern superstition, the sky is in the computer. This
simple dogma is based on much more than 2000 years of European
superstition. That Mayan civilisation and Egypt made no errors is a
know fact. These and other cultures were in fact impeccable even with
megacycles that encompass precession as elementary unit. Today we know
that the horoscope has 22 zodiacal constellations and 16 ascendants
for the epoch, but in the past there was popular belief in 12 signs.
This belief implied sky devoid of precession and therefore rotation.
Solid belief in lack of change was necessary in order to establish
puppets and believers instread of c]scientific thought and real
astrology. Nowadays it is easy to avoid charlatans. Everyone that
makes mention of the 12 signs is safely avoided as superstitious, and
therefore dangerous charlatan. Such a demon has never seen the real
sky and can not know anything about your own original natal sky.

MAGICK

While truly magickal being of course needs no ritual, the modern man
craves for talismans, gadgets and all sort of silly paraphernalia.
Only a total loser can trust in the power of regaila and talismans,
since the said objects have hardly any power. Some objects do have
power, but are impracticable as well as improbable to find, after
being charged by beings with magickal power. Such beings are simply
not around, besides being obsolete for the initiate. All that the
initiate needs he already has, and that is difficult to understand in
a modern man. Often true initiation starts naturally in dream or dream
time, as initiates tend to daydream, that is enter a separate domain,
the astral domain or second attention, whatever the terminology. The
real time reality rendering tools are not technique as we do not need
any to produce magickal effects right here right now. All sort of
silly rituals of the past were just tools addressed ast reinforcing
intent.

Klaudio Zic

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On 16 May, 19:59, Candy West <rt...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

You crass, stupid autistic quivering imbecile. You don't even know how
to spell, 'magic', but have to use a letter 'k' to promolgate your
mystical ramblings.

And 'mystical' they ceratinly are. It's fucking mystical how anyone
could ever read such utter drivel.

Little green men may come in spacecraft for you soon. At least, I hope
so.

Werewolfy

mag·ick  (mjk)
n.
An action or effort undertaken because of a personal need to effect
change, especially as associated with Wicca or Wiccan beliefs.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Magick

On 16 May, 21:26, nos...@noway.net (Ralph) wrote:

You can play with your American dictionary all day..won't make any
difference. The word is 'magic'.
Now, should you by chance be a follower of the works of Aleister
Crowley, then I suppose you could use your made-up spelling..providing
you understand that; '"The Anglo-Saxon k in Magick, like most of
Crowley's conceits, is a means of indicating the kind of magic which
he performed. K is the eleventh letter of several alphabets, and
eleven is the principal number of magick, because it is the number
attributed to the Qliphoth - the underworld of demonic and chaotic
forces that have to be conquered before magick can be performed. K has
other magical implications: it corresponds to the power or shakti
aspect of creative energy, for k is the ancient Egyptian khu, the
magical power. Specifically, it stands for kteis (vagina), the
complement to the wand (or phallus) which is used by the Magician in
certain aspects of the Great Work."

Now fuck off Ralph, and use English, not mis-spelt mumbo-jumbo. Whilst
you are at it..pronounce 'Qliphoth' for me... Fucking ignorant
American.

Werewolfy

<snip>
Sorry, but most folks I know, and I've known a lot of people in the US
neopagan community in the last, um, 30-odd years, have used Magick to
distinguish it from prestidigitation/stage magic.

I think they're off, and busy selling themselves*, but it's a legitimate use
of the spelling.

        mark

* Q: What's the difference between a Real pagan training class and a
        newage one?
  A: One to two decimal places to the right of the dollar sign.

On 17 May, 04:07, mark <whitr...@rcn.com> wrote:

I don't know anyone in that...or any other ethereal cult, Mark. I do
know the English language however, and the American habit of spelling
words in an odd way. To you, 'color' is acceptable. To me, you all
appear frightened of the letter, 'u' and eschew it's use. The word is,
'colour'.

Language changes to accomodate new ideas...but there must be a line
where legitimate use can not be altered on a vague fancy, or an
inability to spell correctly.
But my point was not simply one of either spelling, or of usage. I
posted because the notion of 'astrology' and of 'magic' belongs to
Stone Age tribes who still bay at the moon. Call it, 'magic', or call
it 'magick'...it remains nonsense.

Werewolfy

On 17 May, 04:22, Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

I'm glad you set things straight, but I've got to tell you that no human
being has any spiritual or supernatural powers except to tap into the
power of spiritual beings, both good and evil.

Once my uncle was teaching me to dowse. Cut a dowsing rod from a nearby
willow tree next to a pond on my parents property. As I walked across
the spot he indicated had a underground spring the thing yanked out of
my tightly clintched hands and stuck into the ground while leaving bits
of bark in my hands. I knew it wasn't my power, because I wasn't trying
that hard and couldn't repeat it. Now I'm convinced it was Satan or a
demon trying to make me believe in my own power.

I'd leave that magick crap alone, because the only thing you'll get from
it is Satan teasing your soul straight into Hell.

<snip of spelling argument>

I, personally, would probably agree about astrology ("The fault, dear
Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves.")

Magick, on the other hand.... How do you feel about psi? Let me say that I
have personally been present at two or three events that had *no* other
explanation. Further, my definition of Magick is "a series of psychological
techniques used for controlling psi power."

        mark

Oy, as they say, vey, another Christian looser who's got nothing better to
do (certainly has no date, or friends to go out with) on a Friday night
(from the post's timestamp) than to witless, sorry, witness to the pagans.

Btw, as far as I can tell, given events ranging from the Holocaust down to
private matters (like my ...late... wife's death for no fucking reason), I
can't tell the difference between your definition of "Satan" and your
definition of "God", a spoiled, insecure bully.

        mark