Silver Ravenwolf In Riverside CA
Konx Om Pax
On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
Please call us if you have any Questions! (909)351-1366
Blessings In Light,
Ken and Becky
10066 Magnolia RiversideCA
Light In Extension Homepage
Coming soon...
Donald Michael Kraig, April 24th
Paul Clark May 15th
Lon Milo DuQuette, May 22nd Preview his new book My Life With The
Spirits
Ed Fitch June 5th
Robert Anton Wilson at the end of June!!!
How to get here...
91 Freeway to Riverside, exit Tyler and go North, go about 3/4 mile
down to Magnolia turn Right go
about 1/2 mile and you will see a CoCo's restaraunt on your right and
we are located behind
CoCo's.
ren
> Robert Anton Wilson at the end of June!!!
Yep. He is a friend of mine.
Talesin
>
> Greetings to All!
> On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a
> Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name
> just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore
> in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by
> appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign
> books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and
> honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We
> will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
Oh I am sure you are just peeing all over yourself! And you must be
grateful that she has taken valuable time away from communing with the
gods to deign to speak to her little Fairy Princess Wiccan acolytes.
You didn't mention the price schedule. We all know that, like all
whores, Silver does not work for free.
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AIM name: tales1n
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Talesin <Witc...@psynet.net> wrote in message
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>
> In all fairness...do any of us work for free?
>
Indeed many do, sometimes by intent other times because of who was
worked for. Caetainly not all work for free, and very few can aford to
work for free all of the time.
<snip>
Rh...@pacbell.net
wrote:
>Konx Om Pax wrote:
>>
>> Greetings to All!
>> On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a
>> Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name
>> just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore
>> in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by
>> appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign
>> books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and
>> honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We
>> will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
>
>Oh I am sure you are just peeing all over yourself! And you must be
>grateful that she has taken valuable time away from communing with the
>gods to deign to speak to her little Fairy Princess Wiccan acolytes.
>You didn't mention the price schedule. We all know that, like all
>whores, Silver does not work for free.
>
>--
>Talesin- Priest and Witch
>
>AIM name: tales1n
talesin,
Chill out. Just because you don't agreed with her teachings, doesn't
give you (or anyone else) the right to insult anyone.
Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group. Rather
than attempting to sort the wheat from the dross, everyone would
rather complain and call names. Tale sin, Moon phase, Dragon Lady,
almost all of you do this.
Can we please PLEASE get away from the name calling? And get to some
honest discussion of the craft?
Rhel
DragonLady MKB
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Rh...@Pacbell.net wrote in message
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<snip>
>
>talesin,
>Chill out. Just because you don't agreed with her teachings, doesn't
>give you (or anyone else) the right to insult anyone.
Piss off dickweed. If a person feels like insulting someone else,
then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
FUCKING GOES HERE*.
>
>Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group.
Correction, *BULLSHIT* posts like *YOURS* are the biggest problem with
this group fuckface. If brainless morons like *YOU* wouldn't bitch
about name calling, etc, then we would see fewer posts like mine
bitching at the instigators of the flame fest.
>Rather
>than attempting to sort the wheat from the dross, everyone would
>rather complain and call names. Tale sin, Moon phase, Dragon Lady,
>almost all of you do this.
Screw you shitball. If your poor widdle eyes can't stand it, then
don't fucking read it you fucking waste of sperm.
>
>Can we please PLEASE get away from the name calling?
Could you *PLEASE* sprout a fucking brain you little dweezle?
>And get to some
>honest discussion of the craft?
Hey fuckwad! If you want *REAL DISCUSSION OF THE CRAFT* then *WHAT IN
THE FUCK IS KEEPING YOU FROM STARTING SAID DISCUSSION*?! Well, you
lazy shitbag dumbass, why don't you start a discussion? Hmm? If you
are going to fucking well *DEMAND* discussion, then why the fuck don't
you *START IT*?! Oh, that's right. You're too fucking brainless to
start a discussion. You'd rather bitch about the name calling and the
bitching rather than strain your poor widdle self by starting real
discussion.
>
>Rhel
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So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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Simoun
These newsgroups (plural) have recently expressed concern over Dr Laura and
her message that Wicca was not a religion. If she were to monitor these
newsgroups, she would have to conclude that the "angry" participants are
clearly not adherents of any acceptable value based system, in other words,
not adhering to any established or acceptable religion.
It seems that the bitching back and forth is NOT constructive conflict, but
rather, destructive conflict. It seems this behavior is from a group of
childish antagonists and not from mature seekers of truth.
I question the values of those who find they must use foul language, such
actions are usually signs of anger, and anger is usually a symptom of fear.
Those who are thus acting, ask yourselves, what is your fear?
A second observation is that all this unattractive AND dysfunctional name
calling, which focuses on people and not problems, is very aggressive. This
lowers those who name call to the same level as those whom we are purporting
to despise.
Grow up.
While FUNCTIONAL and ATTRACTIVE do not go hand in hand, there is something
very wrong when group members are UNATTRACTIVE and DYSFUNCTIONAL.
The objective is surely to be FUNCTIONAL? Again, back to Dr Laura's
observation.
For those of you who choose to show your values by name calling and by
personal attacks: just what values do you actually support?
I am truly interested.
Tell us what your values are.
Thank you
Rh...@Pacbell.net wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:50:16 -0500, Talesin <Witc...@psynet.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Konx Om Pax wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings to All!
> >> On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a
> >> Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name
> >> just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore
> >> in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by
> >> appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign
> >> books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and
> >> honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We
> >> will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
> >
> >Oh I am sure you are just peeing all over yourself! And you must be
> >grateful that she has taken valuable time away from communing with the
> >gods to deign to speak to her little Fairy Princess Wiccan acolytes.
> >You didn't mention the price schedule. We all know that, like all
> >whores, Silver does not work for free.
> >
> >--
> >Talesin- Priest and Witch
> >
> >AIM name: tales1n
>
> talesin,
> Chill out. Just because you don't agreed with her teachings, doesn't
> give you (or anyone else) the right to insult anyone.
>
> Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group. Rather
> than attempting to sort the wheat from the dross, everyone would
> rather complain and call names. Tale sin, Moon phase, Dragon Lady,
> almost all of you do this.
>
> Can we please PLEASE get away from the name calling? And get to some
> honest discussion of the craft?
>
> Rhel
Talesin
Excuse me. I speak out against her because she leads many in the wrong
direction, has taken the precious and power knowledge of the Ancient
Ones and turned it into mindless pap just to sell books, she acts like
she is a fucking goddess, and she is nothing but a fraud.
She is a public person so she better be able to handle public scrutiny.
Talesin
>
> My observation, for what it is worth is as follows.
>
> These newsgroups (plural) have recently expressed concern over Dr Laura and
> her message that Wicca was not a religion. If she were to monitor these
> newsgroups, she would have to conclude that the "angry" participants are
> clearly not adherents of any acceptable value based system, in other words,
> not adhering to any established or acceptable religion.
Why should we care what Dr. Laura thinks? Are we to mold ourselves until
we are acceptable to her?
>
> It seems that the bitching back and forth is NOT constructive conflict, but
> rather, destructive conflict. It seems this behavior is from a group of
> childish antagonists and not from mature seekers of truth.
>
Oh really? Then how SHOULD we resolve important issues among ourselves
if not by debating? You aren't going to find much truth just sitting
around and nodding sagely at each other.
> I question the values of those who find they must use foul language, such
> actions are usually signs of anger, and anger is usually a symptom of fear.
>
> Those who are thus acting, ask yourselves, what is your fear?
>
"Foul language?" Who the fuck are you to impose morality on others. I
happen to think that DLMKB is a little harsh but I am not going to
accuse her of hidden emotional damage. She, and all other Witches, may
speak as they wish.
> A second observation is that all this unattractive AND dysfunctional name
> calling, which focuses on people and not problems, is very aggressive. This
> lowers those who name call to the same level as those whom we are purporting
> to despise.
>
> Grow up.
>
All of this blundering in and tossing judgments about is rude and
unacceptable. Are you some kind of Fairy Princess Fluffy Bunny that
wilts at the sign of any conflict? You better grow up dude, this is
still the real world.
> While FUNCTIONAL and ATTRACTIVE do not go hand in hand, there is something
> very wrong when group members are UNATTRACTIVE and DYSFUNCTIONAL.
>
And how do you define such? What gives YOU the right to set the
standards?
> The objective is surely to be FUNCTIONAL? Again, back to Dr Laura's
> observation.
>
> For those of you who choose to show your values by name calling and by
> personal attacks: just what values do you actually support?
>
> I am truly interested.
>
> Tell us what your values are.
>
> Thank you
>
> Rh...@Pacbell.net wrote:
>
Easy.
1) Freedom to think and express myself as I will without society,
religion, or any one person setting rules and dictating to me what is
acceptable.
2) Allowing others the same freedom.
And what are YOUR values?
Simoun
thank you for your response. I shall address your points, even if they are
expressed in language not commonly accepted as effective. These are cultural
norms, and not mine, by the way!
> Why should we care what Dr. Laura thinks? Are we to mold ourselves until
> we are acceptable to her?
I agree. I used her since she has been the point of discussion in these groups
(plural). I care neither way, it seems that the collected group members think so,
otherwise why would there be so much traffic about her?
> Oh really? Then how SHOULD we resolve important issues among ourselves
> if not by debating? You aren't going to find much truth just sitting
> around and nodding sagely at each other.
I agree that there should be discussion. I recommend you read "Lisytening Skills"
by Madelyn Burley Allen. Commonly accepted "foul language" is commonly believed to
(1) show ingorance, and (2) often stops people listening. Whereas commonly
acceptable "good language" enhances listening.
Conflict resolution requires each to present their points and interests, obviating
positions. Thus there is a lot of benefit to be derived from conflict. I am in
full favor of CONSTRUCTIVE CONFLICT, this happens when a group is mature. An
immature group tends to have escallating and destructive conflict.
> "Foul language?" Who the fuck are you to impose morality on others. I
> happen to think that DLMKB is a little harsh but I am not going to
> accuse her of hidden emotional damage. She, and all other Witches, may
> speak as they wish.
I am not suggestinf fould language is an issue of morality. I suggest, confirmed
by those who work in these fields of communication and conflict, that fould
language shows (1) ignorance - insofar as other more effective words are neither
understood nor used by the transmitter, and (2) act as inhibiting word, thus
stopping listeners from listening.
> All of this blundering in and tossing judgments about is rude and
> unacceptable. Are you some kind of Fairy Princess Fluffy Bunny that
> wilts at the sign of any conflict? You better grow up dude, this is
> still the real world.
My prefession, in which I function very well, is conflict resolution, ADR,
intervention, and group dynamics. Conflict, as I mentioned earlier, is useful.
Conflict is energy and energey is needed to solve problems. Apathy on the pther
hand solves nothing. As a facilitator I am passive to assertve based on group
stages, as a mediator I am assertive to task assetive, and seem to have a lot of
success. I suggest, Talesin, that you consider these words, perhaps your fear and
anger might be channeled into more positive areas.
> > While FUNCTIONAL and ATTRACTIVE do not go hand in hand, there is something
> > very wrong when group members are UNATTRACTIVE and DYSFUNCTIONAL.
> >
>
> And how do you define such? What gives YOU the right to set the
> standards?
Again, these words are defined in the dictionaries, should you have one, and the
merging of functionality and attractiveness to produce effectiveness ( I often
define as Fair, efficient, wise, stable, effective, adaptable, participative) is
common in works that relate to conflict and to group dynamics.
> Easy.
> 1) Freedom to think and express myself as I will without society,
> religion, or any one person setting rules and dictating to me what is
> acceptable.
> 2) Allowing others the same freedom.
I would offer again, yet again, sigh!, that you consider three points.
First, no one posseses the unfettered right to yell "fire" in a crowded theatre.
That one has been tested.
Second, I fully support your right to say anything you wish as long as you do not
cause harm to others.
Third, do you want others to listen, or, do you simply want to make a lot of
noise. The former is effective, the later is a lot of fun but ineffective.
Thank you for listening.
Matthew Golec
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> On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:50:16 -0500, Talesin <Witc...@psynet.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Konx Om Pax wrote:
> >>
> >> Greetings to All!
> >> On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a
> >> Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name
> >> just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore
> >> in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by
> >> appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign
> >> books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and
> >> honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We
> >> will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
> >
> >Oh I am sure you are just peeing all over yourself! And you must be
> >grateful that she has taken valuable time away from communing with the
> >gods to deign to speak to her little Fairy Princess Wiccan acolytes.
> >You didn't mention the price schedule. We all know that, like all
> >whores, Silver does not work for free.
> >
> >Talesin- Priest and Witch
> >
> >AIM name: tales1n
>
> Chill out. Just because you don't agreed with her teachings, doesn't
> give you (or anyone else) the right to insult anyone.
>
> Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group. Rather
> than attempting to sort the wheat from the dross, everyone would
> rather complain and call names. Tale sin, Moon phase, Dragon Lady,
> almost all of you do this.
>
> Can we please PLEASE get away from the name calling? And get to some
> honest discussion of the craft?
>
> Rhel
I find it irritating that people always post to the pagan ngs assuming that
they are in fact Wiccan.
Not everyone practices the same "craft". People have to stop treating the
pagan newsgroups as purely Wiccan ones.
I frequently see people trying to end arguments by stating things such as
"we all believe in the same goddess/god" or some silly reference to the
wiccan rule of three that should disprove another's argument.
Just had to say this, these numerous cross posts are starting to bother
me(this one's not really bad but since it has little to do with pagan
magick, and more to do with religion.wicca I'm bothered by it).
DragonLady MKB
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Okay everyone. We have some dipshits running around, like the one
below, who think that the "big bad nasty posters" should "post nice".
Should we give these fuckwits what they want?
Simoun wrote in message <371A1989...@ix.netcom.com>...
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So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
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ren
O.k. by me. We should have a "Don't Type Fuck" day.
At the beginning of every post we should have [Don't Type Fuck] for the
whole day. What do you think?
On that day everybody has to be as dishonest as they can and be nice and
agree with everyone no matter how silly they are.
K Thorman
retreat? What are you hoping to accomplish by using strong language?
Perhaps insults and creative words are meant to make you feel better, cause
I don't think they're doing anything else.
DragonLady MKB wrote in message ...
Dawnwalker
wrote:
>Excuse me. I speak out against her because she leads many in the wrong
no excuse necessary. when you say "... leads many in the wrong
direction,..." who are you referring to? i lurked craft101 when they
worked thru' her book 'n most of them benefited from it as far as i
could see.
>direction, has taken the precious and power knowledge of the Ancient
>Ones and turned it into mindless pap just to sell books, she acts like
i agree that the level of content was -- very basic. considering
the level of the kids doing the book i thought it was appropriately
wrtten.
>she is a fucking goddess, and she is nothing but a fraud.
i don't know anything about her other work so how is she a
fraud?
>She is a public person so she better be able to handle public scrutiny.
true.
==
Dawnwalker
www.feri.com
Dor
>I find it irritating that people always post to the pagan ngs assuming that
>they are in fact Wiccan.
>Not everyone practices the same "craft". People have to stop treating the
>pagan newsgroups as purely Wiccan ones.
>I frequently see people trying to end arguments by stating things such as
>"we all believe in the same goddess/god" or some silly reference to the
>wiccan rule of three that should disprove another's argument.
>Just had to say this, these numerous cross posts are starting to bother
>me(this one's not really bad but since it has little to do with pagan
>magick, and more to do with religion.wicca I'm bothered by it).
Mr. Golec, I'd like very much to meet you and shake your hand. This
is precisely the reason I have waited so long to stop lurking -- I
didn't feel particularly welcome.
As can probably be told by my name, I am a follower of the Hellenistic
pantheon -- I serve Athene in her warrior aspect. Anyone who tells me
that I am in danger of being struck down by any 'rule of three' or
'karma' because of my path obviously doesn't know my beliefs very well
at all. In many cases I am forced to doubt their commitment to the
tolerance which nearly every pagan I've met pays at least lip service
to.
Dor (Short for Polydorases)
polyd...@yahoo.com
steward
: Piss off dickweed. If a person feels like insulting someone else,
: then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
: FUCKING GOES HERE*.
Which group, oh brilliant one?
You're posting to four. Learn to read headers.
: If brainless morons like *YOU* wouldn't bitch
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Wildmagick
> then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
> FUCKING GOES HERE*.
>
> >
>
> this group fuckface. If brainless morons like *YOU* wouldn't bitch
> about name calling, etc, then we would see fewer posts like mine
> bitching at the instigators of the flame fest.
<snipping the rest of the diatribe>
An *unmoderated* group usually relies on the maturity and self-restraint of
the members to maintain a socially acceptable level of decorum. You seem to
think that "freedom" means that all folks are entitled to drop their turds
wherever they wish because they *can*.
So, what do you think you are accomplishing with your command of gutter
language? Are you proving that you have *freedom*, if so, they your life
must be pathetic if that is the extent of your world contribution. Are you
seeking to show how powerful and discerning your *judgment* is <cough>?
Wow, can I grow up to be just like you????
So, revel in your chaos, little one. It seems to be all that you have going
for you. Enjoy the *unmoderated* forums, since no one else would want to
have your contributions. It must be quite a trip to live a life so devoid
of maturity, sensitivity, tolerance, or kindness. I pity you.
Rh...@pacbell.net
>
>Excuse me. I speak out against her because she leads many in the wrong
>Ones and turned it into mindless pap just to sell books, she acts like
>Talesin- Priest and Witch
talesin,
Think you for your much more rational response than Dragon Lady.
Personally, I've always found cursing and swearing to be a sign of
anger and bitterness rather than intelligence. Also, thank you, Mr.
who stood up for me. You spoke clearer than I could.
If I were interested in everybody saying the same things all the time,
and everybody agreeing with everybody else, then I'd look at the
moderated groups. I'm interested in differing opinions, differing
thoughts on these subjects.
Dragon Lady asked (suggested) I come up with a new topic. She'll
probably flame me some more, but here goes:
Practicing (whichever) craft by the handicapped and/or disabled. This
is something of interest to me, as for most of the past fifteen years
I've been a solitary. A couple years ago I was crippled; I'm now
paralyzed from the chest down. I have no use of my hands (I use
dictation software), and am mostly bed bound. How can I start
practicing again? Any thoughts?
Talesin, I don't necessarily agree with any of ravenwolf, but I also
passionately dislike Buckland. I find what truths that I can in
whatever writings I can. I don't necessarily agreed with much of your
teachings, either; but I do try to look at things with an open mind.
I actually didn't get as many flames as I expected ... thank you.
Rhel
Matthew Golec
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>
> >Chill out. Just because you don't agreed with her teachings, doesn't
> >give you (or anyone else) the right to insult anyone.
>
> then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
> FUCKING GOES HERE*.
It is moderated by common sense and courtesy. You seem to have none.
> >Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group.
>
> Correction, *BULLSHIT* posts like *YOURS* are the biggest problem with
> this group fuckface. If brainless morons like *YOU* wouldn't bitch
> about name calling, etc, then we would see fewer posts like mine
> bitching at the instigators of the flame fest.
You're as big a problem as he is.
> >Rather
> >than attempting to sort the wheat from the dross, everyone would
> >rather complain and call names. Tale sin, Moon phase, Dragon Lady,
> >almost all of you do this.
>
> Screw you shitball. If your poor widdle eyes can't stand it, then
> don't fucking read it you fucking waste of sperm.
The problems with the youth of today...
> >
> >Can we please PLEASE get away from the name calling?
>
> Could you *PLEASE* sprout a fucking brain you little dweezle?
Both of you are acting worse than children(toddlers not the intelligent
variety).
Thankfully you'll probably both destroy yourselves in your practices
allowing use to be rid of the both of you.
> >And get to some
> >honest discussion of the craft?
>
> Hey fuckwad! If you want *REAL DISCUSSION OF THE CRAFT* then *WHAT IN
> THE FUCK IS KEEPING YOU FROM STARTING SAID DISCUSSION*?! Well, you
> lazy shitbag dumbass, why don't you start a discussion? Hmm? If you
> are going to fucking well *DEMAND* discussion, then why the fuck don't
> you *START IT*?! Oh, that's right. You're too fucking brainless to
> start a discussion. You'd rather bitch about the name calling and the
> bitching rather than strain your poor widdle self by starting real
> discussion.
This isn't exacly starting a discusion either.
> >
> >Rhel
>
> - --
> DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
I enjoy flames. They remind me of all the flaws in humanity.
Matthew Golec
news:7ff089$ojs$1...@cougar.golden.net...
Thank-you. I always find it much more interesting to find out about
paganism. I find it irritating that most of this ng is devoted to Wiccan's
trying to 'inform' us that our religions follow karma or the rule of three
as well.
Matthew Golec
emotions.
It is best not to make enemies amoung the powerful or competent.
Perhaps you should visit alt.whine
Simoun
I noticed that "alt.pagan.contacts" was in the listed group.
I have removed it from my reply.
Talesin, and others, can you tell me why "alt.pagan.contacts" is being included
in this message thread?
It seems to me that "alt.pagan.contacts" is for contacting people, of whatever
tradition, or religion.
Or, it "alt.pagan.contacts" simply included there to broadcast your language
skills?
Simon
Talesin
Bwah ha ha ha ha!
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Saki
steward wrote:
> DragonLady MKB (dragon...@netaddress.com) cluelessly wrote:
>
> : Piss off dickweed. If a person feels like insulting someone else,
> : then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
> : FUCKING GOES HERE*.
>
> Which group, oh brilliant one?
> You're posting to four. Learn to read headers.
Well, in this case, that doesn't matter. None of the groups in the
headers on your post were moderated ones.
<snip>
Saki
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> Okay everyone. We have some dipshits running around, like the one
> below, who think that the "big bad nasty posters" should "post nice".
> Should we give these fuckwits what they want?
I say NAY.
Cussin' is an art form, and those who don't like it are just no good at
it.
<snip>
Rhyanon
Matthew Golec wrote in message <7fg85q$8f8$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>I don't think this is exacly the best forum to release control of your
>emotions.
>It is best not to make enemies amoung the powerful or competent.
>
>Perhaps you should visit alt.whine
>
>
muphasa
I happen to be a frequent visitor to this store. I can tell you that
'wicca' is
not this store's main staple for existance. There are many other books
in there on the HOGD, OTO, chaos magic, qabbalah, Aleister Crowley (he
has quite an impressive selection of those, I might add), Israel Regardie,
etc.
If you took his books on wicca, hinduism, tao, buddhism, shamanism, etc and
added them all together, there would be just slightly more than what he has
on heremtic orders, chaos magick and the like. He also has ritual tools,
incense, candles, jewelry and other items.
Give the guy some space.
Do you know the difference between a whore and slut?
A whore gets paid...how big is your paycheck?
Kirk
Talesin <Witc...@psynet.net> wrote in article
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> Konx Om Pax wrote:
> >
> > Greetings to All!
> > On Monday May 3rd Silver Ravenwolf, (Author of Teen Witch, To Ride a
> > Silver Broomstick and her newest book To Light a Sacred Flame to name
> > just a few), will be visiting Konx Om Pax-Light In Extension bookstore
> > in Riverside! During the day she will be giving readings by
> > appointment and in the evening she will give a short lecture and sign
> > books. We are sorry that it has to be a weekday but we are pleased and
> > honored to have her presence during her short visit in California. We
> > will start setting appointments after May 23rd.
>
> Oh I am sure you are just peeing all over yourself! And you must be
> grateful that she has taken valuable time away from communing with the
> gods to deign to speak to her little Fairy Princess Wiccan acolytes.
> You didn't mention the price schedule. We all know that, like all
> whores, Silver does not work for free.
>
> --
> Talesin- Priest and Witch
>
> AIM name: tales1n
>
Talesin
Fuckin' a, Saki, fuckin a!
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Talesin
swhe...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> A quick question.
>
> I noticed that "alt.pagan.contacts" was in the listed group.
>
> I have removed it from my reply.
>
> Talesin, and others, can you tell me why "alt.pagan.contacts" is being
included
> in this message thread?
I think I have it narrowed down to three possible reasons:
1) aliens gave the original poster an anal probe and only agreed to do it
again if he crossposted to alt.pagan.contacts
2) the original poster it a dedicated Pagan who is tired of wearing glasses
3) the original poster is under the false impression that Siver Ravenwhore is
a Pagan and that a group of Pagans who are also mislead might attend her
event, resulting in "contact."
>
> It seems to me that "alt.pagan.contacts" is for contacting people, of whatever
> tradition, or religion.
>
And see, I did it.
> Or, it "alt.pagan.contacts" simply included there to broadcast your language
> skills?
>
> Simon
No, I think it's there for losers like you to pick up girls.
Now Talesin says, leave me the fuck alone.
Talesin
"muphasa" <mup...@gte.net> wrote:
> Talesin:
>
> I happen to be a frequent visitor to this store. I can tell you that
> 'wicca' is
> not this store's main staple for existance. There are many other books
> in there on the HOGD, OTO, chaos magic, qabbalah, Aleister Crowley (he
> has quite an impressive selection of those, I might add), Israel Regardie,
> etc.
> If you took his books on wicca, hinduism, tao, buddhism, shamanism, etc and
> added them all together, there would be just slightly more than what he has
> on heremtic orders, chaos magick and the like. He also has ritual tools,
> incense, candles, jewelry and other items.
>
> Give the guy some space.
>
> Do you know the difference between a whore and slut?
> A whore gets paid...how big is your paycheck?
>
> Kirk
Listen, bucko, I am not the one taking ancient and sacred knowledge and
serving it up like a Big Mac just to make a buck. The difference is not
betweem whores and sluts, but between whores and lovers. How much do you pay
yours? -- Talesin- Priest and Witch
Matthew Golec
news:371C616D...@REMOVECAPSnetcom.ca...
>
>
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> > Okay everyone. We have some dipshits running around, like the one
> > below, who think that the "big bad nasty posters" should "post nice".
> > Should we give these fuckwits what they want?
>
> I say NAY.
>
> Cussin' is an art form, and those who don't like it are just no good at
> it.
>
> <snip>
I think they only wish for you to be reasonably polite.
You're wording is unnecessary.
'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
DragonLady MKB
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Matthew Golec wrote in message
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>Saki <Sa...@REMOVECAPSnetcom.ca> wrote in message
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<snip>
>> I say NAY.
>>
>> Cussin' is an art form, and those who don't like it are just no
good at
>> it.
>>
>> <snip>
>
>I think they only wish for you to be reasonably polite.
Look dickweed, it's people who wish someone else would change that
need to get clued in to reality in one hell of a hurry. How is
"wishing somone to be reasonably polite" any different from a woman
wishing her husband would put the toilet seat down? Would it not be
better for the wife to adapt rather than trying to get her hubby to
change?
>You're wording is unnecessary.
Bend over and shove your damn fucking head up your ass until you
implode you fuckwit.
>'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
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Mari
You don't even know her. She's the one who started me remembering. . and that
means a alot to me. she also helps my lifebonded out a lot, which means much
more to me. Anyone that helps Scowen out with his many problems deserves a
medal. HOW DARE YOU speak of her that way. You have no right, you don't even
know her. As for what's his face who actually defended her, i'm glad that
someone did.
Sorry, wuzziz face is Kirk. Thank you.
Ok, that's my 2 cents anyway. And Taliesin, shuddup. Why do you continually
spout bullshit? I used to actually read your posts. Now I dunno.
AND SHE IS NOT A WHORE.
Mariannia
Denise H. Setchko
Matthew Golec wrote in message <7fg85q$8f8$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>I don't think this is exacly the best forum to release control of your
>emotions.
>It is best not to make enemies amoung the powerful or competent.
>
>Perhaps you should visit alt.whine
>
Oh my, I like this ng! What a riot you all are!!
<Amethyst Moonflower
muphasa
this:
Are you jealous because she's out there trying to spread at lease SOME
version of the old ways, and you're stuck here conversing with people you
don't even know? You posted a message about wicca's direction. At least
she's out spreading information (you thought of her legs didn't you?) about
wicca. In case you didn't know, she does have books about other paths
than wicca. But of course, you find anything she does frivolous. If you
don't like it, step up, write a book, and right her wrongs. Put up or shut
up.
And now, peck, the answer to your question, mine is give and take
situation,
mutually equitable, no deposit, no return.
Kirk
By the way, are you against people who make a buck?
Take your argument to the Ordo Templi Orientis.
Talesin <paga...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in article
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Alexandra Ceelie
legs...there is a _big_ difference between trying to "make a buck" and making a
_living_ doing something you love and believe in.
While I don't agree with everything Silver Ravenwolf has to say, I do respect
her for _attempting_ to do something positive for the pagan community. Even if
you don't agree with her message, it doesn't negate the fact that writing is
hard work. Even writing shitty books is hard work. Why shouldn't she get
something for all the long hours she spends on each one?
Three cents a word for 6 months labor? Some whore.
Damn, it's almost charity!
Xandra
PS...
I have never noticed anything particularly ancient or sacred in one of her
books... are you sure we are talking about the same author? ::smirk::
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Mari
(everything wicca, anyways) anad are meant (in my mind at least) for the younger
generation. Hell, she even says that. And she does believe, or so I've always
thought. Uhmm, I actually never thought that her writing was shitty, I like the way
she writes in her own voice. I like the fact that she is out to teach the world, to
spread the pagan message. I don't know her at all, but to me being a celebrity is
the worst possible thing. I read somewhere that she has to have bodyguards. can you
believe that?
she's an amazing, amazing Lady. If even just for realizing her own dreams. How many
of you can say taht you have done that in your lifetime?
And as for the whorea nalogy, She is no such thing.
Mari.
Aldwyn
>Not so much sacred, but more that her books have a little bit of everything
>(everything wicca, anyways) anad are meant (in my mind at least) for the younger
>generation. Hell, she even says that. And she does believe, or so I've always
>thought. Uhmm, I actually never thought that her writing was shitty, I like the way
>she writes in her own voice. I like the fact that she is out to teach the world, to
I only found that she did this in "Broomstick" and in "HexCraft" (now
renamed something else, but cant remember!). After HexCraft, she
started to get more stiff, and lecture like more and more. (though I
haven't read Teen Witch, this may be different).
>spread the pagan message. I don't know her at all, but to me being a celebrity is
>the worst possible thing. I read somewhere that she has to have bodyguards. can you
>believe that?
I can't and know she doesn't use bodyguards. :-)
>she's an amazing, amazing Lady. If even just for realizing her own dreams. How many
>of you can say taht you have done that in your lifetime?
>And as for the whorea nalogy, She is no such thing.
Hey, in some cultures, whores were sacred!
Silver has always taken flack, as any public witch, and she just
laughs it off. I'm sure she would probably find some joke to laugh
about when someone calls her RavenWhore.
Blessings,
Aldwyn
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muphasa
I stood up for her, because she is the one who's books first got me
interested in the spiritual side of the craft. Not to say I'm wiccan, but
many of the principles are ones I've tried to live by before I read any
books.I don't completely agree with everything she says and how she
goes about doing it, but she does deserve at least a modicum of respect
for trying. She gives a good jumping off point for people who are or will
be serious about this path.
I disagree with Tales about this basically, because he's posted messages
about the future of wicca becoming something like Christianity with breast
implants, and criticizes many of the wiccan authors writings. He is either
afraid or unwilling to do anything about it on his own, other than post
messages about it here. He strikes me as a coward on anything outside
of this NG. I've even tried to have a conversation through AOL's Instant
Messenger, and as soon as I brought it up, he first became defensive,
then 'had to go' because he had visitors. Many of his posts here are
gleeming with intellect, but if he's asked to really delve into his
reasoning
he turns tail.
Brightest blessings on your journeys,
Kirk
Mari <mjma...@wam.umd.edu> wrote in article
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Talesin
"Alexandra Ceelie" <netkitte...@home.com> wrote:
> I don't know if I like the parallel you've drawn between spread pages and
spread
> legs...there is a _big_ difference between trying to "make a buck" and making
a
> _living_ doing something you love and believe in.
>
> While I don't agree with everything Silver Ravenwolf has to say, I do respect
> her for _attempting_ to do something positive for the pagan community.
>
HA! All she is doing is trying to make a buck.
Talesin
Mari <mjma...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> Not so much sacred, but more that her books have a little bit of everything
> (everything wicca, anyways) anad are meant (in my mind at least) for the
younger
> generation. Hell, she even says that. And she does believe, or so I've always
> thought. Uhmm, I actually never thought that her writing was shitty, I like
the way
> she writes in her own voice. I like the fact that she is out to teach the
world, to
celebrity is
> the worst possible thing. I read somewhere that she has to have bodyguards.
can you
> believe that?
How many
> of you can say taht you have done that in your lifetime?
> And as for the whorea nalogy, She is no such thing.
>
You are just the kind of Fairy Princess Wiccan that Ravenwhore loves. You
will swallow her pap hook line and sinker. Worst of all, you think she is
some sort of Goddess. Well let me fill you in on your Goddess. She is a short
arrogant little woman who dresses like a slob and talks like a sailor. She
most certainly does not have body guards. She is a snob and will not even
talk to those she considers beneath her station (which is just about
everyone). I was at a fest with her two years ago and she attempted to do
past life regression on a group of people in an open field with a bunch of
folks milling around. Most of the participants were lucky, they just suffered
an hour or so of boredom. But a couple were badly shaken up do to a lack of
close guidance.
Talesin
Mari <mjma...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> First off, Taliesin, I hate to say this, BUT HOW DARE YOU say that about her.
> You don't even know her. She's the one who started me remembering. . and that
> means a alot to me. she also helps my lifebonded out a lot, which means much
> more to me. Anyone that helps Scowen out with his many problems deserves a
> medal. HOW DARE YOU speak of her that way. You have no right, you don't even
> know her. As for what's his face who actually defended her, i'm glad that
> someone did.
> Sorry, wuzziz face is Kirk. Thank you.
> Ok, that's my 2 cents anyway. And Taliesin, shuddup. Why do you continually
> spout bullshit? I used to actually read your posts. Now I dunno.
> AND SHE IS NOT A WHORE.
>
> Mariannia
>
>
Poor little Princess Mari.
AAMOF I do know her. I have met her a couple of times.
And she is a whore.
Mardon Soiruk
with it carry the negitive energy we put behind it. Swearing then whatever
the phrase F*ck You or darn You carry the same impact if stated with the
same intent. We must not think in 2 deminsions here, nor in black and
white, but in three dims. and the energy We send out with what We say. My
teacher taught me to never swear in vein. If I wanted to dam'n it I should
really want to dam'n it, and not just say it. Words can hurt, and sometimes
kill. This is the nature of the beast. And We are a part of it.
Blessed Be!
Mardon Soiruk
http://www.angelfire.com/in/werewolf
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> Okay everyone. We have some dipshits running around, like the one
> below, who think that the "big bad nasty posters" should "post nice".
> Should we give these fuckwits what they want?
>
>
>
> Simoun wrote in message <371A1989...@ix.netcom.com>...
> >Talesin:
> >
> >thank you for your response. I shall address your points, even if
> they are
> >expressed in language not commonly accepted as effective. These are
> cultural
> >norms, and not mine, by the way!
> >
> >> Why should we care what Dr. Laura thinks? Are we to mold ourselves
> until
> >> we are acceptable to her?
> >
> >I agree. I used her since she has been the point of discussion in
> these groups
> >(plural). I care neither way, it seems that the collected group
> members think so,
> >otherwise why would there be so much traffic about her?
> >
> >> Oh really? Then how SHOULD we resolve important issues among
> ourselves
> >> if not by debating? You aren't going to find much truth just
> sitting
> >> around and nodding sagely at each other.
> >
> >I agree that there should be discussion. I recommend you read
> "Lisytening Skills"
> >by Madelyn Burley Allen. Commonly accepted "foul language" is
> commonly believed to
> >(1) show ingorance, and (2) often stops people listening. Whereas
> commonly
> >acceptable "good language" enhances listening.
> >
> >Conflict resolution requires each to present their points and
> interests, obviating
> >positions. Thus there is a lot of benefit to be derived from
> conflict. I am in
> >full favor of CONSTRUCTIVE CONFLICT, this happens when a group is
> mature. An
> >immature group tends to have escallating and destructive conflict.
> >
> >> "Foul language?" Who the fuck are you to impose morality on others.
> I
> >> happen to think that DLMKB is a little harsh but I am not going to
> >> accuse her of hidden emotional damage. She, and all other Witches,
> may
> >> speak as they wish.
> >
> >I am not suggestinf fould language is an issue of morality. I
> suggest, confirmed
> >by those who work in these fields of communication and conflict, that
> fould
> >language shows (1) ignorance - insofar as other more effective words
> are neither
> >understood nor used by the transmitter, and (2) act as inhibiting
> word, thus
> >stopping listeners from listening.
> >
> >> All of this blundering in and tossing judgments about is rude and
> >> unacceptable. Are you some kind of Fairy Princess Fluffy Bunny that
> >> wilts at the sign of any conflict? You better grow up dude, this is
> >> still the real world.
> >
> >My prefession, in which I function very well, is conflict resolution,
> ADR,
> >intervention, and group dynamics. Conflict, as I mentioned earlier,
> is useful.
> >Conflict is energy and energey is needed to solve problems. Apathy on
> the pther
> >hand solves nothing. As a facilitator I am passive to assertve based
> on group
> >stages, as a mediator I am assertive to task assetive, and seem to
> have a lot of
> >success. I suggest, Talesin, that you consider these words, perhaps
> your fear and
> >anger might be channeled into more positive areas.
> >
> >> > While FUNCTIONAL and ATTRACTIVE do not go hand in hand, there is
> something
> >> > very wrong when group members are UNATTRACTIVE and DYSFUNCTIONAL.
> >> >
> >>
> >> And how do you define such? What gives YOU the right to set the
> >> standards?
> >
> >Again, these words are defined in the dictionaries, should you have
> one, and the
> >merging of functionality and attractiveness to produce effectiveness
> ( I often
> >define as Fair, efficient, wise, stable, effective, adaptable,
> participative) is
> >common in works that relate to conflict and to group dynamics.
> >
> >> Easy.
> >> 1) Freedom to think and express myself as I will without society,
> >> religion, or any one person setting rules and dictating to me what
> is
> >> acceptable.
> >> 2) Allowing others the same freedom.
> >
> >I would offer again, yet again, sigh!, that you consider three
> points.
> >
> >First, no one posseses the unfettered right to yell "fire" in a
> crowded theatre.
> >That one has been tested.
> >
> >Second, I fully support your right to say anything you wish as long
> as you do not
> >cause harm to others.
> >
> >Third, do you want others to listen, or, do you simply want to make a
> lot of
> >noise. The former is effective, the later is a lot of fun but
> ineffective.
> >
> >Thank you for listening.
> >
>
>
> - --
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>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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Whisper
They pull them selves down, and they pull others down.
I for one seldom post to any group, not for lack of words to say, but for
lack of seemingly good intention from posters...
Who are we people? Are we not a little more clued in to the world's
workings? Are we not just a little higher up the evolutionary chain, both
spiritually, and mentally? Well those of us who practice the art are...
If a third of us actually cooperated instead of back stabbed do you not
think
we could help bring some peace, wisdom, and light back in to this world?
Be not sharp in your words my brethren! We are one in purpose. That our
paths may differ, and or practices seam strange is not reason for war! We
are part of a brotherhood, a circle that has stretched back to the oldest of
days, and will stretch on in to the years to come.
Be at peace with one another, and let your hearts look inwards. If we are
faultless then we can correct, but if we are not, then we should be looking
into those darkened places within. Those would correct do so by all
means, but do it with a gentile hand, one that teaches the folly of the
wrong...
I sit and I watch... I teach those whom I chose, and Learn from those who
would teach, but those who are fools are like the blowing of the wind -
noise, furry but of no concern to any who are firm and determined...
-And so he said unto me, "Though you are old, you are but I child. If you
refuse to learn then you are dead! Never lose those things you hold dear,
but never hold them so close as to kill them"
-Timothy, my first teacher, and dearest of departed
friends...
-A very quiet Whisper
Quality
>
>DragonLady MKB <dragon...@netaddress.com> wrote in article
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>> Okay everyone. We have some dipshits running around, like the one
>> below, who think that the "big bad nasty posters" should "post nice".
>> Should we give these fuckwits what they want?
It really doesn't matter. This is an unmoderated NG and people will say what
they will say. The question is whether or not you choose to read and/or
respond.
CL
Cardinal Fang
DragonLady MKB wrote:
Matthew Golec wrote in message
> >'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
>
> Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
Just so you know: Obscene language is not protected by the 1st Amendent.So
your "right" isn't a right at all. Whether someone chooses to prosecute is
a whole other ball game.
BTW, I can dictate how another posts as I please. Just as you dictate to
the "newbies" how they shouldn't post, hypocrite.
Cardinal Fang ho...@earthlink.net
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Comharsa
Cardinal Fang <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Whether they're right or wrong, not everyone on newsgroups is American so
quoting the 1st Amendment isn't particularly relevant either way.
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Cardinal Fang
Comharsa wrote:
> Cardinal Fang <ho...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:372145F4...@earthlink.net...
> >
> >
> > DragonLady MKB wrote:
> > Matthew Golec wrote in message
> >
> > > >'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
> > >
> > > Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
> >
> > Just so you know: Obscene language is not protected by the 1st Amendent.So
> > your "right" isn't a right at all. Whether someone chooses to prosecute is
> > a whole other ball game.
> >
> > BTW, I can dictate how another posts as I please. Just as you dictate to
> > the "newbies" how they shouldn't post, hypocrite.
> Whether they're right or wrong, not everyone on newsgroups is American so
> quoting the 1st Amendment isn't particularly relevant either way.
Its relevant because some folks go on about it being their right to post bad
language...and a lot of the posters are in the US. Maybe even the people I was
addressing.But the second part was the main point anyways.
--
Matthew Golec
> Matthew Golec wrote in message
> >Saki <Sa...@REMOVECAPSnetcom.ca> wrote in message
> >news:371C616D...@REMOVECAPSnetcom.ca...
> <snip>
> > I say NAY.
> >
>>> Cussin' is an art form, and those who don't like it are just no
good at
>>> it.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>
>>I think they only wish for you to be reasonably polite.
>
>Look dickweed, it's people who wish someone else would change that
>need to get clued in to reality in one hell of a hurry. How is
>"wishing somone to be reasonably polite" any different from a woman
>wishing her husband would put the toilet seat down? Would it not be
>better for the wife to adapt rather than trying to get her hubby to
>change?
How do you define better?
Is it better that she learns that she sometimes has to submit? Is it better
that she learns how to adapt to a new situation?
Doesn't that mean that it is better to change yourself to suit the
environment that you're in?
Doesn't that mean that any way you interpret what you say your message
indicates that it is better for YOU to adapt to the civil environment of
this newsgroup?
>>Your wording is unnecessary.
>
>Bend over and shove your damn fucking head up your ass until you
>implode you fuckwit.
What is a fuckwit? I think you should start using ENGLISH. The majority of
words you use are silly composite words invented by elementary school
children because of their limited vocabulary.
By my interpretation of fuck(getting laid) and wit(possessing of
intelligence). Calling someone a 'fuckwit' is more of a compliment than an
insult.
>>'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
>
>Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
It is not only myself who have warned you.
>DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
>(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
>email address for fear of being spammed again.)
>For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
I'd expect much more from a dragon.
Your time shall come DragonLady. Your rudeness has grown out of control.
Julie Fernandez
like this is to exchange ideas and encourage others to learn and yes, even
the "oldies" can probably learn a new trick or two. The bashing is way too
dramatic. My 15 yr old child was with me when I first came to this ng and
she thought it was some little kids. What is the point of spewing
nastiness? If you want to discourage others from joining in, then maybe you
don't want to be part of an ng. I've seen that some of you are capable of
expressing ideas. If you disagree with others, let them know so they can
learn from you.
Go ahead and bash all you like. I really don't give a s***.
mystycmagyck
Wildmagick wrote in message <7fg357$q6i$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>> Piss off dickweed. If a person feels like insulting someone else,
>> then they can do so. This is an *UNMODERATED NG*, ergo, *ANYTHING
>> FUCKING GOES HERE*.
>>
>> >
>> >Actually, that's actually the biggest problem with this group.
>>
>> Correction, *BULLSHIT* posts like *YOURS* are the biggest problem with
>> this group fuckface. If brainless morons like *YOU* wouldn't bitch
>> about name calling, etc, then we would see fewer posts like mine
>> bitching at the instigators of the flame fest.
>
><snipping the rest of the diatribe>
>
>An *unmoderated* group usually relies on the maturity and self-restraint of
>the members to maintain a socially acceptable level of decorum. You seem
to
>think that "freedom" means that all folks are entitled to drop their turds
>wherever they wish because they *can*.
>
>So, what do you think you are accomplishing with your command of gutter
>language? Are you proving that you have *freedom*, if so, they your life
>must be pathetic if that is the extent of your world contribution. Are you
>seeking to show how powerful and discerning your *judgment* is <cough>?
>Wow, can I grow up to be just like you????
>
>So, revel in your chaos, little one. It seems to be all that you have
going
>for you. Enjoy the *unmoderated* forums, since no one else would want to
>have your contributions. It must be quite a trip to live a life so devoid
>of maturity, sensitivity, tolerance, or kindness. I pity you.
>
>
>
>
Quality
Matthew Golec wrote in message <7fvvip$n4d$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>DragonLady MKB wrote:
>> Matthew Golec wrote in message
<flamewar snippage>
>
>>>'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
>>
>>Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
>
>It is not only myself who have warned you.
*Warned* ???!!!! WARNED!!!!???? You have GOT to be kidding.
Colorful discourse concerning NG ettiquette is one thing; but where do you
get off
"warning" someone about what they say in an *un* moderated NG?
What are YOU going to do to impose the consequence that a warning implies?
<snip DLMKB sig>
>
>Your time shall come DragonLady. Your rudeness has grown out of control.
Is that a threat? Empty or not, threats are not taken lightly here.
Perhaps the "warning" should, instead, be issued to you.
While I agree that it would be nice if the anger level of this NG could be
toned down a bit, no one is going to change thier style of posting to suit
another persons sensibilities.
It's just not going to happen. Deal with it, or go to a moderated group.
CL
>
DragonLady MKB
Hash: SHA1
Quality wrote in message <7g0d9n$2...@news-central.tiac.net>...
>
>Matthew Golec wrote in message
<7fvvip$n4d$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
<snip>
>>
>>It is not only myself who have warned you.
>
>
>*Warned* ???!!!! WARNED!!!!???? You have GOT to be kidding.
Oh, he's gibbering about the stuff Cardinal Fang and Tony Vecca have
posted in regards to lawsuit shit.
<court>
Defense Lawyer: Mr. Golec, you do not like the way DragonLady
expresses herself, is that correct?
Golec: Yes
Defense Lawyer: Mr. Golec, have you ever tried to use a killfile or
use a moderated group?
Golec: No
Defense Lawyer: Then why should DragonLady be asked to curtail her
"colorful language" if you are unwilling to use other alternatives
that are available to anyone on Usenet?
</court>
Let's keep in mind people, you choose to read these posts. Don't
blame me if your poor widdle eyes can't handle it, because *YOU*,
*YOURSELF* are to blame for reading the post in the first fucking
place.
>Colorful discourse concerning NG ettiquette is one thing; but where
do you
>get off
>"warning" someone about what they say in an *un* moderated NG?
Beats me. Maybe that's the whole point though. Maybe, Golec
masturbates furiously every time someone "warns" me about the way I
post.
>What are YOU going to do to impose the consequence that a warning
implies?
Oh! I know! The fuckwit probably intends to start casting bad mojo
at me. Do you have any idea how many magickers out there want to make
my life a miserable hell just for the way I post?
><snip DLMKB sig>
>
>>
>>Your time shall come DragonLady. Your rudeness has grown out of
control.
>
>
>Is that a threat? Empty or not, threats are not taken lightly here.
>Perhaps the "warning" should, instead, be issued to you.
>
>While I agree that it would be nice if the anger level of this NG
could be
>toned down a bit, no one is going to change thier style of posting to
suit
>another persons sensibilities.
How true. The fuckwit Golec has other options, but he doesn't bother
to use them. I mean, hell, I expect people to say I don't show much
in the common sense department, but what about fuckwits like this
Golec person? He can killfile, ignore, refuse to read, or go to a
moderated NG, but does he? Nooooooo. He stays on his unmoderated NG
and runs around threatening posters like me.
>It's just not going to happen. Deal with it, or go to a moderated
group.
If the fuckwit Golec had a brain, then you could probably talk sense
to him. But he doesn't have a brain.
>CL
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So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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Matthew Golec
news:7g0d9n$2...@news-central.tiac.net...
> >> Matthew Golec wrote in message
>
>
> >
> >>>'Swear' words should be used in the proper context or not at all.
> >>
> >>Piss off dipshit. You don't dictate how another should post.
> >
>
>
> *Warned* ???!!!! WARNED!!!!???? You have GOT to be kidding.
> get off
> "warning" someone about what they say in an *un* moderated NG?
Every newsgroup is moderated in some way or another.
> >
> >Your time shall come DragonLady. Your rudeness has grown out of control.
>
>
> Is that a threat? Empty or not, threats are not taken lightly here.
> Perhaps the "warning" should, instead, be issued to you.
>
> While I agree that it would be nice if the anger level of this NG could be
> toned down a bit, no one is going to change thier style of posting to suit
> another persons sensibilities.
> It's just not going to happen. Deal with it, or go to a moderated group.
> CL
My warning was primarily for two reasons.
1. She was discussing purely Wiccan topics in unrelated newsgroups.
2. She attempted to insult me which is not acceptable.
There are actually others but I don't wish to discuss them.
DragonLady MKB
Hash: SHA1
Matthew Golec wrote in message
<7g2m0s$it4$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
<snip>
>
>Every newsgroup is moderated in some way or another.
Here, class, we can see that Matthew Golec has absolute no fucking
clue between a moderated and an unmoderated NG. Moderated NGs have
some grand high bigshit saying what can/can't be posted and is able to
enforce it. For example, if there were an alt.satanism.moderated,
Xians won't be allowed to "witness" there. But in an *UNMODERATED*
NG, no one can keep someone from posting something everyone else
hates. Sure, you can have a fucking dipshit twit like Matthew Golec
running around telling folks what they can/can't post, but they can't
do diddly shit about the posts.
Now for a real challenging bit of homework class, I'd sure as hell
love to see any of you post the links to the charters for
alt.witchcraft, alt.pagan.magick, and alt.religion.wicca, and show me
where it explicitly states that Matthew Golec owns, moderates, and/or
has exclusive control over any of these three groups.
<snip>
>
>My warning was primarily for two reasons.
>1. She was discussing purely Wiccan topics in unrelated newsgroups.
Now here class, we can see that Matthew Golec doesn't know a fucking
damn thing about interpreting the contents of a post. This whole
thread came about because some dipshit insisted that if you cuss, then
you're ignorant. Now how in the name of the 9 blazing hells is that a
"purely Wiccan" topic?
>2. She attempted to insult me which is not acceptable.
And here we can see a perfect example of Matthew Golec's unwillingness
to accept that he's responsible for reading the posts. If he didn't
read the posts, he wouldn't feel insulted. This twit has many
alternatives available, including just skipping my posts, but he
insists on reading them and then getting so fucking bent out of shape
he makes a contortionist look like a straight line.
<snip>
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So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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Matthew Golec
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>
>
> <snip>
> >>
> >>It is not only myself who have warned you.
> >
> >
> >*Warned* ???!!!! WARNED!!!!???? You have GOT to be kidding.
>
> posted in regards to lawsuit shit.
>
> <court>
> Defense Lawyer: Mr. Golec, you do not like the way DragonLady
> expresses herself, is that correct?
> Golec: Yes
> Defense Lawyer: Mr. Golec, have you ever tried to use a killfile or
> use a moderated group?
> Golec: No
> Defense Lawyer: Then why should DragonLady be asked to curtail her
> "colorful language" if you are unwilling to use other alternatives
> that are available to anyone on Usenet?
> </court>
>
> Let's keep in mind people, you choose to read these posts. Don't
> blame me if your poor widdle eyes can't handle it, because *YOU*,
> *YOURSELF* are to blame for reading the post in the first fucking
> place.
>
> do you
> >get off
> >"warning" someone about what they say in an *un* moderated NG?
>
> masturbates furiously every time someone "warns" me about the way I
> post.
>
> implies?
>
> at me. Do you have any idea how many magickers out there want to make
> my life a miserable hell just for the way I post?
That many?
> ><snip DLMKB sig>
> >
> >>
> >>Your time shall come DragonLady. Your rudeness has grown out of
> control.
> >
> >
> >Is that a threat? Empty or not, threats are not taken lightly here.
> >Perhaps the "warning" should, instead, be issued to you.
> >
> >While I agree that it would be nice if the anger level of this NG
> could be
> >toned down a bit, no one is going to change thier style of posting to
> suit
> >another persons sensibilities.
>
> How true. The fuckwit Golec has other options, but he doesn't bother
> to use them. I mean, hell, I expect people to say I don't show much
> in the common sense department, but what about fuckwits like this
> Golec person? He can killfile, ignore, refuse to read, or go to a
> moderated NG, but does he? Nooooooo. He stays on his unmoderated NG
> and runs around threatening posters like me.
Actually you're the only one.
> >It's just not going to happen. Deal with it, or go to a moderated
> group.
>
> If the fuckwit Golec had a brain, then you could probably talk sense
> to him. But he doesn't have a brain.
>
> >CL
I do intend to use other options. That was why I was warning you.
1. I could have this Ng become moderated.
2. I could have your Internet access revoked
3. I could have your email address shut down
There are many plans of action that could be employed.
In future please take out alt.pagan.contacts they don't like unrelated
posts.
Matthew Golec
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>
>
> <snip>
> >
> >Every newsgroup is moderated in some way or another.
>
> Here, class, we can see that Matthew Golec has absolute no fucking
> clue between a moderated and an unmoderated NG. Moderated NGs have
> some grand high bigshit saying what can/can't be posted and is able to
> enforce it. For example, if there were an alt.satanism.moderated,
> Xians won't be allowed to "witness" there. But in an *UNMODERATED*
> NG, no one can keep someone from posting something everyone else
> hates. Sure, you can have a fucking dipshit twit like Matthew Golec
> running around telling folks what they can/can't post, but they can't
> do diddly shit about the posts.
Actually I do understand the difference between a moderated newsgroup and an
'unmoderated' newsgroup.
If you read my previous message you'd have noticed that I stated that all
newsgroups are moderated by common sense.
Speaking of which an unmoderated newsgroup can easily become moderated.
> Now for a real challenging bit of homework class, I'd sure as hell
> love to see any of you post the links to the charters for
> alt.witchcraft, alt.pagan.magick, and alt.religion.wicca, and show me
> where it explicitly states that Matthew Golec owns, moderates, and/or
> has exclusive control over any of these three groups.
You said yourself that numerous people want you to stop. I didn't say that
I am the moderator of this newsgroup.
Perhaps you should restudy the language you're apparently typing.
> <snip>
> >
> >My warning was primarily for two reasons.
> >1. She was discussing purely Wiccan topics in unrelated newsgroups.
>
> Now here class, we can see that Matthew Golec doesn't know a fucking
> damn thing about interpreting the contents of a post. This whole
> thread came about because some dipshit insisted that if you cuss, then
> you're ignorant. Now how in the name of the 9 blazing hells is that a
> "purely Wiccan" topic?
That was not the post. It diverged afterwards. The blame also goes to
another who's name I don't have on record.
> >2. She attempted to insult me which is not acceptable.
>
> And here we can see a perfect example of Matthew Golec's unwillingness
> to accept that he's responsible for reading the posts. If he didn't
> read the posts, he wouldn't feel insulted. This twit has many
> alternatives available, including just skipping my posts, but he
> insists on reading them and then getting so fucking bent out of shape
> he makes a contortionist look like a straight line.
Am I angry?
I could see if I had spoken to you in person you would have enough
information to make judgements.
Do you really think that I devote my life to some silly Ng thread?
DragonLady MKB
Hash: SHA1
Matthew Golec wrote in message
<7g5ccc$djk$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
<snip>
>
>I do intend to use other options. That was why I was warning you.
>1. I could have this Ng become moderated.
Let's see... Once an unmoderated NG is created, it can't become
moderated. Period. You *CAN* however, make a moderated version of
it, like alt.pagan.contacts.moderated. However, that means the
unmoderated one remains unmoderated.
>2. I could have your Internet access revoked
>3. I could have your email address shut down
BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA! I've had several little shits like you try
both of those, and *I'M STILL HERE*! They don't give a flying damn
about it, because I post to *UNMODERATED* NGs.
>
>There are many plans of action that could be employed.
*YAWN*
>
>In future please take out alt.pagan.contacts they don't like
unrelated
>posts.
Hey you fucking piece of braindead cybershit! The newsgroups header
doesn't have alt.pagan.contacts in it anyway! So if
alt.pagan.contacts isn't in the header, then what the *FUCK* are you
doing still posting? Hmm? Maybe you ought to go see a proctologist
about pulling your head out of your ass.
- --
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So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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DragonLady MKB wrote in message ...
<snip>
>>2. I could have your Internet access revoked
>>3. I could have your email address shut down
>
>BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA! I've had several little shits like you try
>both of those, and *I'M STILL HERE*! They don't give a flying damn
>about it, because I post to *UNMODERATED* NGs.
One other factoid I should point out here for your dubious "benefit"
dumbass Golec, if I had been sending you unwanted email, you asked me
to stop, and I continued, then chances are that you would be able to
get my Internet access and email account shut down. However, I post
to unmoderated NGs, which are a *PUBLIC* venue, not a *PRIVATE* one
like email. Even if you did get my access yanked over mere NG posts
fuckwit Golec, I'll just get another account elsewhere.
Besides fuckwit Golec, you told us you're upset because I was
crossposting to alt.pagan.contacts. However, the recent newsgroups
header doesn't even show alt.pagan.contacts in it. So... If you're
still posting to alt.religion.wicca when alt.pagan.contacts is *GONE*
from the headers, then wouldn't you think that constitutes harassment
on your part? Hmm? I wonder how that would go down with *YOUR*
ISP... I'm sure they wouldn't give a damn if you were insulted by me
or not. Just because someone spits on your shoes doesn't give you
leave to shoot the perpetrator dead.
<snip>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
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Diana
Diana
> they are in fact Wiccan.
Ya!
> Not everyone practices the same "craft".
That's right!
> People have to stop treating the
> pagan newsgroups as purely Wiccan ones.
> I frequently see people trying to end arguments by stating things such as
> "we all believe in the same goddess/god" or some silly reference to the
> wiccan rule of three that should disprove another's argument.
Thank you!
> Just had to say this, these numerous cross posts are starting to bother
> me(this one's not really bad
it's been lots of fun!
> but since it has little to do with pagan
> magick, and more to do with religion.wicca I'm bothered by it).
I'm not! It just illustrates why I'm not Wiccan. It's lots of fun to be a fly
on the wall tho ;-)
Matthew Golec
> Matthew Golec wrote in message
> <snip>
> >2. I could have your Internet access revoked
> >3. I could have your email address shut down
>
> BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA! I've had several little shits like you try
> both of those, and *I'M STILL HERE*! They don't give a flying damn
> about it, because I post to *UNMODERATED* NGs.
It isn't worth the effort for me to do any of those.
Your tagline itself states that you don't give out your email address
anymore becuase of spammers. Doesn't that seem to indicate some limited
success of your enemies?
> >There are many plans of action that could be employed.
>
> *YAWN*
Your point?
> >In future please take out alt.pagan.contacts they don't like
> unrelated
> >posts.
>
> Hey you fucking piece of braindead cybershit! The newsgroups header
> doesn't have alt.pagan.contacts in it anyway! So if
> alt.pagan.contacts isn't in the header, then what the *FUCK* are you
> doing still posting? Hmm? Maybe you ought to go see a proctologist
> about pulling your head out of your ass.
Actually I was refering to another of your posts. It was also as a reminder
to other people that might have read that message.
What are you talking about me still posting?
I don't subscribe to alt.pagan.contacts
> - --
> DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
Do you happen to know if anyone else is reading our little discussion?
Oh well...I'm enjoying it and that's all I care about.
Matthew Golec
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>
> <snip>
> >>2. I could have your Internet access revoked
> >>3. I could have your email address shut down
> >
> >BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA! I've had several little shits like you try
> >both of those, and *I'M STILL HERE*! They don't give a flying damn
> >about it, because I post to *UNMODERATED* NGs.
>
> dumbass Golec, if I had been sending you unwanted email, you asked me
> to stop, and I continued, then chances are that you would be able to
> get my Internet access and email account shut down. However, I post
> to unmoderated NGs, which are a *PUBLIC* venue, not a *PRIVATE* one
> like email. Even if you did get my access yanked over mere NG posts
> fuckwit Golec, I'll just get another account elsewhere.
>
> Besides fuckwit Golec, you told us you're upset because I was
> crossposting to alt.pagan.contacts. However, the recent newsgroups
> header doesn't even show alt.pagan.contacts in it. So... If you're
> still posting to alt.religion.wicca when alt.pagan.contacts is *GONE*
> from the headers, then wouldn't you think that constitutes harassment
> on your part?
I'm not upset. I just think it's pointless to post to an unrelated
newsgroup.
> Hmm? I wonder how that would go down with *YOUR*
> ISP... I'm sure they wouldn't give a damn if you were insulted by me
> or not. Just because someone spits on your shoes doesn't give you
> leave to shoot the perpetrator dead.
Why would my ISP care? My actions do not constitute harassment.
There's nothing sadder than responding to one's own posts.
Quality
Matthew Golec wrote in message <7gahlh$1rd$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>Do you happen to know if anyone else is reading our little discussion?
>Oh well...I'm enjoying it and that's all I care about.
Actually, I have been reading your discussion. Quite frankly, I think you're
full of it.
If you've been on Usenet for any length of time, you already know that DLMKB
has done absolutely nothing to abuse her terms of service. Usenet, with the
exception of moderated NGs (and the content of those are regulated *only* by
private moderators and thier mod-bots), is unregulated. First Ammendment
aside...as this is international,
There is absolutely no way *to* regulate Usenet. If there was, someone would
just create something else somewhere else on the web. Even if, in your
wildest dreams,
you were able to have her service discontinued, she could have another
provider within minutes.
You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy, that
really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail. It's
common practice.
You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made. Everything
else you've said falls flat.
'nuff said .
Ciao
CL
DragonLady MKB
Hash: SHA1
Quality wrote in message <7gappd$h...@news-central.tiac.net>...
>
>Matthew Golec wrote in message
<7gahlh$1rd$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>
>>Do you happen to know if anyone else is reading our little
discussion?
>>Oh well...I'm enjoying it and that's all I care about.
>
>
>Actually, I have been reading your discussion.
It seems anal sphincter boy (Golec) is under the delusional impression
that if no one responds, then no one reads it. However, the realistic
amongst us know that lack of response doesn't mean no one is reading.
It just means no one wishes to respond.
>Quite frankly, I think you're
>full of it.
The scientific community is still trying to figure out what this
intestinal parasite's shit (Golec) is full of. Whatever he's full of
hasn't been classified by science yet, and it's bewildered the best
scientists so much, that it doesn't look like what he's full of is
going to be classified any time soon.
>If you've been on Usenet for any length of time, you already know
that DLMKB
>has done absolutely nothing to abuse her terms of service. Usenet,
with the
>exception of moderated NGs (and the content of those are regulated
*only* by
>private moderators and thier mod-bots), is unregulated. First
Ammendment
>aside...as this is international,
>There is absolutely no way *to* regulate Usenet.
Many try, but it's the shithead Net martyrs like Golec that haven't a
fucking damn clue between their empty heads that they're just fighting
a lost cause. One can only hope this bleeding shit waffle slime Golec
will grow out of his martyrhood fuckery, but I'm not going to hold my
breath. I've seen his kind before, and they're all too fucking thick
to understand folks are going to be themselves on unmoderated Usenet
without his permission.
>If there was, someone would
>just create something else somewhere else on the web.
How true. It's not like I sent this dipshit email anyway.
>Even if, in your
>wildest dreams,
>you were able to have her service discontinued, she could have
another
>provider within minutes.
Just like Carmlo. And we all know what happens when Carmlo gets
canned from one ISP. He finds another, and starts cranking out posts
again.
>You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy,
that
>really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail.
It's
>common practice.
Hell, I tell folks in my sig line that my email addy is a spammer
trap. At least I'm honest about it. Those folks that want to contact
me usually post a request for me to email them. That way, I know the
email will be acceptable to the recipient, because he/she asked me to
contact him/her.
>You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made.
Everything
>else you've said falls flat.
Mainly because this gnat's limp dick (Golec) smacked into a brick
wall. The fuckwit told us he was upset over crossposting to
alt.pagan.contacts. When caught in that lie, he says he's just
enjoying the responses to his bullshit posts. Golec is a shit
stirring fuckwit. 'Nuff said.
>'nuff said .
>Ciao
>CL
>
- --
DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
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Reaper X
it, I'm sure everyone else did. I always read the posts that have
DL's name in them and if there's a response from her, I watch the
thread. Sorry 'bout using you for my scanning purposes, DL, but
whereever you are there are usually "fuckwits" "idiots" and the like
in the thread somewhere. Usually gets a laff. I didn't respond to
the post cuz, well, he ain't worth wastin' the time on. You, my dear,
are worth wasting AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE on.
Reaper X
DragonLady MKB
Hash: SHA1
Reaper X wrote in message
<084CDF9AD05B3BCD.0416CAB1...@library-proxy.airne
ws.net>...
>I do believe that most of the regs are scanning the threads. If I
did
>it, I'm sure everyone else did. I always read the posts that have
>DL's name in them and if there's a response from her, I watch the
>thread.
I'm sort of the source of entertainment around here.
>Sorry 'bout using you for my scanning purposes, DL, but
>whereever you are there are usually "fuckwits" "idiots" and the like
>in the thread somewhere. Usually gets a laff.
Hey, no prob. I usually like it when I manage to get some laughter
out of somone else.
>I didn't respond to
>the post cuz, well, he ain't worth wastin' the time on. You, my
dear,
>are worth wasting AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE on.
Hmm... Looks like I managed to get another guy chasing after me, but
for my posts.
I was wondering what happened to you Reaper X. You "disappeared"
after serving yourself for dinner.
>
>Reaper X
- --
DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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Reaper X
at which time, I was liquidated in a water stream and went through a
reverse decomposition process in the pond. I came out, and now am
ready to fratenize again! (Now it's a self-proclaiming,
self-preparing, self-cooking, self-basting, self-serving,
self-resurrecting, re-edible, somewhat tasty Reaper Roast!
Blessed Be,
Reaper X
BTW, (You were thinking about me while I was gone! If you were
anything but a ferocious flaming dragon, I would have thought you
missed me! But since you are a ferocious flaming dragon, I will not
assume such idiocy...)
:)
shewolf
Reaper X <rea...@celtic.com> wrote in message
news:F06F421D8A197EAA.90E3A0AD...@library-proxy.airnew
s.net...
> What did you expect? I was ingested and had to wait to be excreted,
> at which time, I was liquidated in a water stream and went through a
> reverse decomposition process in the pond. I came out, and now am
> ready to fratenize again! (Now it's a self-proclaiming,
> self-preparing, self-cooking, self-basting, self-serving,
> self-resurrecting, re-edible, somewhat tasty Reaper Roast!
all that & a bag of chips too
kaia
muphasa
WHOA DUDE! You mean you're like, perpetual foodage?
Kewl
</keanureeves voice>
Let's divide you and send you to the less fortunate people.
Kirk
Reaper X wrote in message ...
:What did you expect? I was ingested and had to wait to be excreted,
:at which time, I was liquidated in a water stream and went through a
:reverse decomposition process in the pond. I came out, and now am
:ready to fratenize again! (Now it's a self-proclaiming,
:self-preparing, self-cooking, self-basting, self-serving,
:self-resurrecting, re-edible, somewhat tasty Reaper Roast!
:
:Blessed Be,
Matthew Golec
>
> Matthew Golec wrote in message <7gahlh$1rd$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
>
> >Do you happen to know if anyone else is reading our little discussion?
> >Oh well...I'm enjoying it and that's all I care about.
>
you're
> full of it.
DLMKB
> has done absolutely nothing to abuse her terms of service. Usenet, with
the
> exception of moderated NGs (and the content of those are regulated *only*
by
> private moderators and thier mod-bots), is unregulated. First Ammendment
> aside...as this is international,
would
> just create something else somewhere else on the web. Even if, in your
> wildest dreams,
You just stated yourself that personal moderators could solve the problem.
> you were able to have her service discontinued, she could have another
> provider within minutes.
Yes.
> You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy, that
> really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail. It's
> common practice.
I didn't say that I don't like her muddling her email 'addy'. I said that
since she had problem with spammers before it can undoubtably happen again.
> You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made.
Everything
> else you've said falls flat.
> 'nuff said .
> Ciao
> CL
Not really.
The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
Quality
DragonLady MKB wrote in message ...
>Hash: SHA1
>Just like <snip ultimate obsenity>. And we all know what happens when
<ditto snip> gets
>canned from one ISP. He finds another, and starts cranking out posts
>again.
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHRGH!!!!!!!
You dare to invoke the evil ones name???!!!!!!
Shhhhhhhhh! You'll wake it up.
Just a suggestion......"C#$@$o" shall heretofor etc. be referred to as
"Cshit".....unless you have a "more colorful" suggestion <g>
CL
Aurora
>
> Mari <mjma...@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
> > HOW DARE YOU say that about her. <snip>
> > AND SHE IS NOT A WHORE.
> >
> > Mariannia
>
> Poor little Princess Mari.
> AAMOF I do know her. I have met her a couple of times.
> And she is a whore.
> --
> Talesin- Priest and Witch
--------------------------------
I've met Silver Ravenwolf myself. She seems like a very personable
lady. We spent several hours chatting at Starwood and I enjoyed her
point of view. I ran into her a year later at Invocation and I
found she was just as nice as when I had met her before, although
she was a lot busier. However her personality is not what I would
like to comment on.
I have a problem with the use of the word "whore" in this context.
You may dislike her work, (which is what the debate seems to be
about) or you may dislike her as a person, everyone is entitled to
their opinion. However speaking about her sexual practices really
doesn't have anything to do with her work.
I especially object to the fact that by calling a woman a "whore"
in the context in which you use it, you are reinforcing negative
male stereotypes. These stereotypes claim that women are "bad" if
they are sexually active. Even if Silver chose to have multiple
partners, that does not make her a bad person. For many Pagans I
know sexuality is a beautiful part of their spirituality.
I also think that on the whole that denegrating women in a feminine
based spirituality is really a dumb thing to do.
Merry Meet,
Aurora
Aurora
< a bunch of stuff expressing her point of view>
I spent most of my NG time in a place where quite a few people used
such language and it was socially acceptable there. Perhaps you
might want to check it out Dragon Lady, you might enjoy it.
It is: alt.slack (The NG for the Church of the SubGenius)
They tend to enjoy flaming each other as well as anyone else who
happens to wander by. Just a suggestion.
Rev K
> > Matthew Golec wrote:
> The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
Isn't that why many folks left the "old country"?
Rhyanon
Rev K wrote in message <5fIW2.7531$%L2.3...@news6.ispnews.com>...
>
>> > Matthew Golec wrote:
>
>> The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
>
>Isn't that why many folks left the "old country"?
>
>
YOOOOOOU, Matty Go - lick! You must be jealous or something. Can't one say
"FUCK YOU" in the middle of the street in your Bacon Republic? Scum like you
is what's wrong with the world.**
~Sz.~
Matthew Golec
Seems to have faded out after I made that alt.whine comment.
Oh well...I really do enjoy our little discussions. They are so much more
interesting than reading posts by people requesting love spells or teachers.
DragonLady MKB <dragon...@netaddress.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hey Talesin! You used to be such a proponent for Free Pagan Usenet,
> right? Then how come you're not carving this Golec dumbfuck and
> serving him for dinner?
>
> Matthew Golec wrote in message
> <7gd8ja$r4t$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
> >The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
> >
> >
>
Matthew Golec
problem.
>
> alt.religion.wicca.moderated, or start your own. I'm sure someone from
one
> of the moderated groups would be happy to give you the info on how to get
> started.
I'm not wiccan, incidentally my news server appears to have 0 moderated
pagan 'forums'.
> <snip>
> >> You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy,
that
> >> really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail. It's
> >> common practice.
> >I didn't say that I don't like her muddling her email 'addy'. I said
that
> >since she had problem with spammers before it can undoubtably happen
again.
>
> I beg to differ, your statement implied that other people had attempted to
> "warn" or otherwise target her for the purposes of removing her from the
> NG.
I stated that she evidently had email 'problems' in the past and therefore
that is an effective method for one to discourage her from the NG scene.
> >
> >> You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made.
> >Everything
> >> else you've said falls flat.
> >> 'nuff said .
> >> Ciao
> >> CL
> >Not really.
> >The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
>
> Yes Mr. Huxley, there *is* a Sanity Clause.
> You have something against people expressing themselves freely?
People are always able to express themselves freely. There should be
consequences though.
Wouldn't you have liked me to have been punished for posting that anti-free
speech thingy to begin with?
I do have problems in regards to excessive freedoms.
Especially when these freedoms lead to death.
> (DOH!...nothing like stating the obvious)
> You have something against Americans?
> Turn back now, you *really* don't want to go there.
>
> Ciao,
> CL
I have a problem with Christian fundamentalist Americans.
abdul_a...@my-dejanews.com
Golec to a heap of ashes, scattered in the wind:
<snip>
> It seems anal sphincter boy (Golec) is under the delusional impression
> that if no one responds, then no one reads it. However, the realistic
> amongst us know that lack of response doesn't mean no one is reading.
> It just means no one wishes to respond.
I´ve checked on Golec´s dejanews record and it seems that, apart from turning
him into lunch, there really is no reason to respond...
<snip>
> The scientific community is still trying to figure out what this
> intestinal parasite's shit (Golec) is full of. Whatever he's full of
> hasn't been classified by science yet, and it's bewildered the best
> scientists so much, that it doesn't look like what he's full of is
> going to be classified any time soon.
Wow. Did you see the beautiful colors in those flame? Excelente!
<snip>
> Many try, but it's the shithead Net martyrs like Golec that haven't a
> fucking damn clue between their empty heads that they're just fighting
> a lost cause. One can only hope this bleeding shit waffle slime Golec
> will grow out of his martyrhood fuckery, but I'm not going to hold my
> breath. I've seen his kind before, and they're all too fucking thick
> to understand folks are going to be themselves on unmoderated Usenet
> without his permission.
"bleeding shit waffle slime"? The best I had heard before was "son of a
thousand slime pools". I must be missing out on something...
<snip>
> How true. It's not like I sent this dipshit email anyway.
<snip>
> Hell, I tell folks in my sig line that my email addy is a spammer
> trap. At least I'm honest about it. Those folks that want to contact
> me usually post a request for me to email them. That way, I know the
> email will be acceptable to the recipient, because he/she asked me to
> contact him/her.
>
> >You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made.
> Everything
> >else you've said falls flat.
>
> Mainly because this gnat's limp dick (Golec) smacked into a brick
> wall. The fuckwit told us he was upset over crossposting to
> alt.pagan.contacts. When caught in that lie, he says he's just
> enjoying the responses to his bullshit posts. Golec is a shit
> stirring fuckwit. 'Nuff said.
Once upon a time there were the Usenet Olympics Discipline of Flaming, sad to
say that´s some time gone, this would have been a winner.
> - --
> DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
>
Now, you may wonder, what on earth or over yonder is that guy talking about.
Well, I just wanted to say that this has got to be one of the best flames I´ve
read for a long time. Where (outside Usenet) did you learn to post like that?
Can anybody learn it? And finally, would it help if I put myself and the
computer inside a magic circle, spoke three curses and burned black candles
while posting?
Moments later, I put on my protective charms and rings, got the amulets and
chanted the chants then ventured to http://www.neto.com/wildcard/ and well,
it´s very nice ;)
P.S.: What do the letters MKB mean? -- Abdul Alhazred - the Mad Arab, not
afraid of flames, since being eaten alive by invisible monsters in the
marketplace in broad daylight some centuries ago... "cat /dev/zero >
/dev/null" - the Meaning of (99% of) Usenet Blessed Be all ye who enter here.
- sign above Usenet Tavern Flamed Be all ye who entered here. - sign inside
Usenet Tavern
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Matthew Golec
news:7gdteh$acj$2...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Aurora <aur...@terracom.net> wrote in message
> news:372A274F...@terracom.net...
> > I have a problem with the use of the word "whore" in this context.
>
> not implied. Ravenwolf is (supposedly) a whore because she is not
> interested in "true Wicca" (whatever that is), but in making a quick buck.
> In the same context a musician (male or female) who doesn't create true
art
> but caters to the masses with watered-down music can be called "whore".
>
> --
> Rainer Deyke (rai...@earthlink.net)
> "Bearer of my stigma, thou art of me / Yet claim no gift but guidance
> For I am the giver of temptation / Thou art the executor of Thy rewards"
> - Emperor
> "Deyke....You would have to be inherently moronic to beleive it." -
> Mondhaut, who claims to have read every history book in existence
But there is no such thing as 'art' so there can be no whores who peddle
'art'.
Rainer Deyke
news:N0FW2.14598$B55.777690@dfiatx1-snr1...
> Therefore, by your own definitions, if You have a job in which you get
paid,
> YOU could also be considered a whore, since YOU are offering YOUR time,
> knowledge, abilities, etc. in exchange for monetary reward. (No sex
implied)
Yes, unless my job is doing what I truly love/believe in and the money is
just an added bonus.
muphasa
alt.religion.wicca.moderated, alt.astrology.moderated,
alt.atheism.moderated, alt.meditation.moderated, and
alt.religion.psychedelic.moderated (although the latter is quite slow). If
you don't get them, complain to your ISP.
Kirk
muphasa
nothing. Are you?
Kirk
Rainer Deyke wrote in message <7gfm5d$i7q$2...@birch.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
:muphasa <mup...@gte.net> wrote in message
:
:
:
muphasa
Kirk
Mark T. Jones wrote in message
<372a430e....@news1.lig.bellsouth.net>...
:On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:15:59 GMT, Talesin <paga...@my-dejanews.com>
:wrote:
:>You are just the kind of Fairy Princess Wiccan that Ravenwhore loves. You
:>will swallow her pap hook line and sinker. Worst of all, you think she is
:>some sort of Goddess. Well let me fill you in on your Goddess. She is a
short
:>arrogant little woman who dresses like a slob and talks like a sailor. She
:>most certainly does not have body guards. She is a snob and will not even
:>talk to those she considers beneath her station (which is just about
:>everyone). I was at a fest with her two years ago and she attempted to do
:>past life regression on a group of people in an open field with a bunch of
:>folks milling around. Most of the participants were lucky, they just
suffered
:>an hour or so of boredom. But a couple were badly shaken up do to a lack
of
:>close guidance.
:
:I was also at that Gathering.
:
: After a couple of decades of growth in my faith, (...and still
:needing more growth for sure!), I wonder still at the need some people
:have to pull down anything and/or anyone that is making headway in
:his/her life. Such is Silverwolf. Snob? Not in my experience. Will not
:talk? You've got to be kidding! This woman knows something about
:talking. We talked for hours on subjects from herbs to hair loss.
:Rarely have I enjoyed a conversation so much. She is an acomplished
:listener too. Short is true. "Dresses like a slob"? Come on. We were
:living in a pasture.
: I have to ask: What the heck happened in your life to make you so
:insecure?
:
:Mornstar*
Quality
Matthew Golec wrote in message <7gfml0$h3t$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
<snip>>
>I'm not wiccan, incidentally my news server appears to have 0 moderated
>pagan 'forums'.
Me either, so start your own mod group then. If your current server doesn't
provide the services you require then find a better provider. If you want,
I'll ask a couple of moderators if they would be willing to give you
assistance through e-mail. You may e-mail me to provide me with the address
you wish to use for that purpose, but please bear in mind that I do not wish
to carry this particular conversation with you to e-mail.
>> <snip>
>> >> You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy,
>that
>> >> really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail. It's
>> >> common practice.
>> >I didn't say that I don't like her muddling her email 'addy'. I said
>that
>> >since she had problem with spammers before it can undoubtably happen
>again.
>>
>> I beg to differ, your statement implied that other people had attempted
to
>> "warn" or otherwise target her for the purposes of removing her from the
>> NG.
>
>I stated that she evidently had email 'problems' in the past and therefore
>that is an effective method for one to discourage her from the NG scene.
That's not how it was perceived, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
<snip>.
>> >The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
>>
>> Yes Mr. Huxley, there *is* a Sanity Clause.
>> You have something against people expressing themselves freely?
>
>People are always able to express themselves freely. There should be
>consequences though.
Ummmmm, no. People are not always able to express themselves freely.
Ask anyone from countries like China, Iraq, USSR (when it was
that)......give me time, I'll think of more countries and republics where
voicing your opinion can get you killed.
>Wouldn't you have liked me to have been punished for posting that anti-free
>speech thingy to begin with?
No, that would make me a hypocrite.
>I do have problems in regards to excessive freedoms.
>Especially when these freedoms lead to death.
Obviously you have issues yet to be expressed.
You seem to be leading this discussion in a more extreme direction. Would
you care to explain?
<snip>
>
>I have a problem with Christian fundamentalist Americans.
Yeah? So do I, I suppose that would explain why I'm not one of them, nor do
I voluntarily associate with them. But I will be polite unless physically
threatened.
CL
laura
Matthew Golec wrote:
> That's a very good question. Where is Talesin?
> Seems to have faded out after I made that alt.whine comment.
>
> Oh well...I really do enjoy our little discussions. They are so much more
> interesting than reading posts by people requesting love spells or teachers.
>
> DragonLady MKB <dragon...@netaddress.com> wrote in message
> news:AarW2.49$Ny1...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
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> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hey Talesin! You used to be such a proponent for Free Pagan Usenet,
> > right? Then how come you're not carving this Golec dumbfuck and
> > serving him for dinner?
> >
> > Matthew Golec wrote in message
> > <7gd8ja$r4t$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
> > >Quality <qua...@datablast.net> wrote in message
> > >news:7gappd$h...@news-central.tiac.net...
> > >>
> > >> Matthew Golec wrote in message
> > >You just stated yourself that personal moderators could solve the
> > problem.
> > >
> > >> you were able to have her service discontinued, she could have
> > another
> > >> provider within minutes.
> > >
> > >Yes.
> > >
> > >> You don't have a leg to stand on. As for muddling ones e-mail addy,
> > that
> > >> really *is* to prevent spammers....and other unsolicited e-mail.
> > It's
> > >> common practice.
> > >I didn't say that I don't like her muddling her email 'addy'. I said
> > that
> > >since she had problem with spammers before it can undoubtably happen
> > again.
> > >
> > >> You don't like her posting style, fine. That point has been made.
> > >Everything
> > >> else you've said falls flat.
> > >> 'nuff said .
> > >> Ciao
> > >> CL
> > >Not really.
> > >The true problem arises with the American obsession with free speech.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > - --
> > DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
> >
> > So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> > (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> > email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> > For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
--
Laura
http://www.gurlpages.com/obsess/catleya
I don't mind people, some of my best friends are people!
DragonLady MKB
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muphasa wrote in message ...
Or if you're hoping for more positive results, gently request they be
added. And if you have to do so, you could always start asking your
fellow ISP users if they'd like to see the mod groups added and ask
them to request them from the ISP.
>
>Kirk
>
>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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Rainer Deyke
> If your work is that fulfilling for you, you would be willing to do it for
> nothing. Are you?
Stupid question in my case, as I am currently "between jobs". However, I do
need money to survive, which means I'll probably have to take some job for
the money. In other words, unless I find a job I love which also pays, I'll
have to become a "whore" (by the definition I gave).
Rainer Deyke
news:7gfmqc$h4f$1...@whisper.globalserve.net...
> But there is no such thing as 'art' so there can be no whores who peddle
> 'art'.
Explain.
DragonLady MKB
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abdul_a...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<7gfpd7$fah$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>"DragonLady MKB" spread her wings and spewed fire, thereby reducing
poor
>Golec to a heap of ashes, scattered in the wind:
Ouch! I'll bet he'll be feeling that in the morning, eh?
<snip>
>
>I扉e checked on Golec愀 dejanews record and it seems that, apart from
turning
>him into lunch, there really is no reason to respond...
So I have gathered from other folks' opinions of him.
>
><snip>
>
>> The scientific community is still trying to figure out what this
>> intestinal parasite's shit (Golec) is full of. Whatever he's full
of
>> hasn't been classified by science yet, and it's bewildered the best
>> scientists so much, that it doesn't look like what he's full of is
>> going to be classified any time soon.
>
>Wow. Did you see the beautiful colors in those flame? Excelente!
I was kinda concerned that it was too much of a tangled piece of
string for anyone to make sense of it.
<snip>
>
>"bleeding shit waffle slime"? The best I had heard before was "son of
a
>thousand slime pools". I must be missing out on something...
Well I used the "bleeding shit waffle slime" before, and someone loved
the "waffle slime" comment.
<snip>
>> Everything
>> >else you've said falls flat.
>>
>> Mainly because this gnat's limp dick (Golec) smacked into a brick
>> wall. The fuckwit told us he was upset over crossposting to
>> alt.pagan.contacts. When caught in that lie, he says he's just
>> enjoying the responses to his bullshit posts. Golec is a shit
>> stirring fuckwit. 'Nuff said.
>
>Once upon a time there were the Usenet Olympics Discipline of
Flaming, sad to
>say that愀 some time gone, this would have been a winner.
Hee hee! Great. Now my ego is too big to fit through the phone line.
<snipping my sig>
>
>Now, you may wonder, what on earth or over yonder is that guy talking
about.
>Well, I just wanted to say that this has got to be one of the best
flames I扉e
>read for a long time. Where (outside Usenet) did you learn to post
like that?
Beats me. Sometimes I have my rare moments. I guess I got tired of
using "fuckwit" all the time. So I had to come up with something
else.
>Can anybody learn it?
Sure! Just practice, practice, and did I mention practice?
>And finally, would it help if I put myself and the
>computer inside a magic circle, spoke three curses and burned black
candles
>while posting?
Hee hee hee! Well... I guess if you really wanted to... But I just
post.
>
>Moments later, I put on my protective charms and rings, got the
amulets and
>chanted the chants then ventured to http://www.neto.com/wildcard/ and
well,
>it愀 very nice ;)
I bet you were surprised that my page didn't require all the
protective gear in order to view it, eh? About the only thing you'd
have a need for all that protection would be when I'm talking about
food. I have the knack to make others hungry.
>
>P.S.: What do the letters MKB mean? --
MKB is one of the great mysteries. I use it to differentiate myself
from all the other dozens of DragonLadies out there.
>Abdul Alhazred - the Mad Arab, not
>afraid of flames, since being eaten alive by invisible monsters in
the
>marketplace in broad daylight some centuries ago... "cat /dev/zero >
>/dev/null" - the Meaning of (99% of) Usenet Blessed Be all ye who
enter here.
>- sign above Usenet Tavern Flamed Be all ye who entered here. - sign
inside
>Usenet Tavern
>
>-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network
==----------
>http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your
Own
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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DragonLady MKB
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Talesin wrote in message <9MEW2.625$Ny1....@newsfeed.slurp.net>...
>Sorry, been busy. I will keep my eyes open for him/her/it.
Well, seeing as how the poor cyberslop Golec is so starving for
attention, he needs all the watching he can get.
<snip>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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shewolf wrote in message <7gf7s1$9g8$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>as will me & mine.
My my! Are that many people watching Golec the soon to be goulash?
>kaia
- --
DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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DragonLady MKB
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laura wrote in message <372B77F2...@orbitworld.net>...
>By the way, wanna share a love spell?
Aw, come on Laura. I don't want this shmuck. He's too much of a
stick to be of any fun to me. You could always pair this loser
handfuck Golec with dipshit Shez though.
<snip>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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DragonLady MKB
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Matthew Golec wrote in message
<7gfml0$h3t$1...@whisper.globalserve.net>...
<snip>
>
>I'm not wiccan, incidentally my news server appears to have 0
moderated
>pagan 'forums'.
That sounds odd. Your ISP doesn't even carry soc.religion.paganism?
That one's moderated too. If it doesn't carry that group, then you've
got one loser ISP there.
<snip>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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laura
people who post asking for love spells, so I was being slightly
antagonistic.
DragonLady MKB wrote:
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> laura wrote in message <372B77F2...@orbitworld.net>...
> >By the way, wanna share a love spell?
>
> Aw, come on Laura. I don't want this shmuck. He's too much of a
> stick to be of any fun to me. You could always pair this loser
> handfuck Golec with dipshit Shez though.
>
> <snip>
>
> - --
> DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
>
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DragonLady MKB
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laura wrote in message <372B910E...@orbitworld.net>...
>No, I wasn't fixing him up with you. PLEASE!!! He said he didn't
like
>people who post asking for love spells, so I was being slightly
>antagonistic.
Hee hee! Well, I figured since he was so interested in reading my
posts, and knowing how you like to matchmake Laura... Hmm... I
wonder of Usenet posts are a form of love spell...
But I guess Golec gets upset with people who ask for love spells
because he is a loser in love.
<snip>
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DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
(My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
email address for fear of being spammed again.)
For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
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laura
DragonLady MKB wrote:
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shewolf
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>
> >as will me & mine.
>
> My my! Are that many people watching Golec the soon to be goulash?
i think he may be surprized at just how many people are watching.
>
> >kaia
>
>
> - --
> DragonLady MKB -- Solitary Eclectic Wiccan
>
> So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-)
> (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new
> email address for fear of being spammed again.)
> For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/
>
>
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