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Kenn Caesius

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May 13, 2011, 3:32:56 PM5/13/11
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If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
still run on a Pentium processor.

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Bruce Morgen

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May 13, 2011, 4:52:21 PM5/13/11
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"Kenn Caesius" <xilotea...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
>you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
>still run on a Pentium processor.
>

I still use the ancient
v1.93 of Agent -- it
does the job and has no
problem with any CPU
afaik. Even the cut-
down "Free Agent" from
back in the day was
pretty danged adequate
iirc -- unless you hang
lots of bells and
whistles on it, a
newsreader is pretty
simple software.

Auric__

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May 13, 2011, 9:21:52 PM5/13/11
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"Kenn Caesius" <xilotea...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
> you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
> still run on a Pentium processor.

Xnews. Works like a charm.

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Skywise

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May 14, 2011, 1:31:21 AM5/14/11
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"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
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> "Kenn Caesius" <xilotea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
>> you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
>> still run on a Pentium processor.
>
> Xnews. Works like a charm.

I 2nd that. Works fine under XP pro as well.

Brian
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Andrew Rossmann

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May 14, 2011, 8:45:11 AM5/14/11
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In article <2OidnVPcc5NJGlDQ...@earthlink.com>, xiloteak-
use...@yahoo.com says...

>
> If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
> you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
> still run on a Pentium processor.

When I had my old Win2K computer (P3-1000, 512M), I used Gravity, and
still use it today on my current Vista computer. I only read several
text groups, so don't make much use of any features involving multi-part
binaries and such.

But then, does it matter much? Usenet is all but dead. I used to spend
an hour or more per day reading many groups. Now, it often takes 5-10
minutes.

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Kenn Caesius

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May 14, 2011, 12:06:29 PM5/14/11
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That is very provocative claim about the obsolescence of the of the
Usenet - on the other hand I would not be surprised; I recall my own
decline in usenet use was due to all the premium providers removing
their MP3 related groups and my ISP access cannot even begin to compare.

Nonetheless, thank you everyone to replying and I will take all your
suggestions into consideration: I have tried Xnews once but I am not
sure if the personalization of its author or my familiarity with
Newsrover made it difficult to get used to. I suppose that anything is
better than Outlook Express 6.

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Auric__

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May 14, 2011, 11:25:35 PM5/14/11
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Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
> news:Xns9EE4BAEFD8285au...@85.214.73.210:
>
>> "Kenn Caesius" <xilotea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you still use windows 2000 Professional, what newsreader software do
>>> you use or recommend? I something along the lines of Newsrover yet can
>>> still run on a Pentium processor.
>>
>> Xnews. Works like a charm.
>
> I 2nd that. Works fine under XP pro as well.

Works under any 32-bit Windows, 95/NT4+, though I imagine it needs to be run
as administrator under NT6.

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Java Jive

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May 15, 2011, 7:45:31 AM5/15/11
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I find Agent best for text ngs, XNews is better for binary ngs.

On Sat, 14 May 2011 01:21:52 +0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
<not.m...@email.address> wrote:
>
> Xnews. Works like a charm.
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Auric__

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May 15, 2011, 8:28:25 AM5/15/11
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Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

> I find Agent best for text ngs, XNews is better for binary ngs.

I use Xnews for everything. IIRC the only thing Xnews lacks that Agent has
(well, Agent 2.something, the last version I used) is spellcheck.

For that matter, before I switched to Xnews, I used *Agent* for everything.
Not better, not worse, just different.

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Skywise

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May 15, 2011, 8:14:28 PM5/15/11
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"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
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> Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I find Agent best for text ngs, XNews is better for binary ngs.
>
> I use Xnews for everything. IIRC the only thing Xnews lacks that Agent
> has (well, Agent 2.something, the last version I used) is spellcheck.
>
> For that matter, before I switched to Xnews, I used *Agent* for
> everything. Not better, not worse, just different.


I only have one minor complaint about XNews, and that if a
message disappears on the server, Xnews removes it from its
files as well.

There are some groups where I like to have an offline archive
of the group.

Unless someone knows how to change that? I find no settings.

Skywise

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May 15, 2011, 8:18:34 PM5/15/11
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"Kenn Caesius" <xilotea...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> I have tried Xnews once but I am not
> sure if the personalization of its author or my familiarity with
> Newsrover made it difficult to get used to.

I will admit it took me a little while to get used to as well.
Mostly just learning what the different keyboard commands were.

I'm quite fond of keyboard shortcuts, probably becasue I'm an
old timer from before the days of hte mouse. Today, I've seen
people use computers where the only time they use the keyboard
is to actually type text. I think if they could do it with the
mouse, they'd do that too, and disconnect the keyboard!

Auric__

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May 15, 2011, 9:37:58 PM5/15/11
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Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
> news:Xns9EE637D615DA6au...@88.198.244.100:
>
>> Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I find Agent best for text ngs, XNews is better for binary ngs.
>>
>> I use Xnews for everything. IIRC the only thing Xnews lacks that Agent
>> has (well, Agent 2.something, the last version I used) is spellcheck.
>>
>> For that matter, before I switched to Xnews, I used *Agent* for
>> everything. Not better, not worse, just different.
>
>
> I only have one minor complaint about XNews, and that if a
> message disappears on the server, Xnews removes it from its
> files as well.

Yeah, that can be a bitch sometimes. I've just learned to deal with it.
It's the only thing I don't like about Xnews, and for me it's pretty minor.

> There are some groups where I like to have an offline archive
> of the group.
>
> Unless someone knows how to change that? I find no settings.

Best thing I can suggest is to backup your messages to somewhere else.

Save this to a batch file in the Xnews\Data directory, and then call it
however often you feel like it (every day, every logon, whatever):
-----begin backup.cmd-----
setlocal
if not exist==*.mbx goto :EOF
for /f "tokens=1,2" %%a in ("%DATE%") do (
for /f "delims=/ tokens=1,2,3" %%c in ("%%b") do set fn=%%e%%c%%d
)
for /f "delims=:. tokens=1,2,3" %%f in ("%TIME%") do set fn=%fn%-%%f%%g%%h
mkdir "%USERPROFILE%\Xnews-backups\%fn%"
copy *.mbx "%USERPROFILE%\Xnews-backups\%fn%"
-----end backup.cmd-----

(Don't include the lines that start with -----. Note that this batch
probably requires an NT5+ system -- NT4 *might* work, 9x/Me will not.)

This will create a directory in your user profile (the directory containing
your desktop, mydocs, etc.) called "Xnews-backups". Inside that will be
folders named with the date and time it was run containing the contents of
your Data directory (mbx files only; they contain the actual messages).

This batch assumes American dates (mm/dd/yyyy); if your system uses British
dates (dd/mm/yyyy) then the first "set fn" line should be changed to:
for /f "delims=/ tokens=1,2,3" %%c in ("%%b") do set fn=%%e%%d%%c

Make sure that if you schedule it with the scheduler, you tell it to start
in the Xnews\Data directory.

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Java Jive

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May 16, 2011, 5:22:40 AM5/16/11
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Just use a better, less quirky, newsreader!

On Mon, 16 May 2011 01:37:58 +0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
<not.m...@email.address> wrote:
>
> Best thing I can suggest is to

Skywise

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May 16, 2011, 3:41:02 PM5/16/11
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"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
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> Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

>> There are some groups where I like to have an offline archive
>> of the group.
>>
>> Unless someone knows how to change that? I find no settings.
>
> Best thing I can suggest is to backup your messages to somewhere else.

I do backup once in a whilem but nothign so fancy as what you
suggest. I just copy the data folder.

The nice thing about XNews is it does not install into Windows.
Whenever I needed to build/rebuild a system, all you have to do
is copy the XNews folder, and then make a desktop shortcut pointing
to the exe. I think ALL software should be like this.

Skywise

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May 16, 2011, 3:43:48 PM5/16/11
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Java Jive <ja...@evij.com.invalid> wrote in
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> Just use a better, less quirky, newsreader!

I hardly think XNews is quircky. Different, yes. I think people
have become too used to what software is like. They expect to
be troubled and bothered by bloatware that's clunky and a pain
in the butt to use. Then when something simple, clean, and
effective comes along, they can't handle it.

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Bruce Morgen

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May 16, 2011, 4:15:10 PM5/16/11
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Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

>"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
>news:Xns9EE6BDB203C1Fau...@88.198.244.100:
>
>> Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
>
>>> There are some groups where I like to have an offline archive
>>> of the group.
>>>
>>> Unless someone knows how to change that? I find no settings.
>>
>> Best thing I can suggest is to backup your messages to somewhere else.
>
>I do backup once in a whilem but nothign so fancy as what you
>suggest. I just copy the data folder.
>
>The nice thing about XNews is it does not install into Windows.
>Whenever I needed to build/rebuild a system, all you have to do
>is copy the XNews folder, and then make a desktop shortcut pointing
>to the exe. I think ALL software should be like this.
>

Agent 1.xx and Free Agent
also work this way -- no
apparent Windoze Registry
involvement is required.

Auric__

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May 16, 2011, 10:43:06 PM5/16/11
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Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:

> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote in
> news:Xns9EE6BDB203C1Fau...@88.198.244.100:
>
>> Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
>
>>> There are some groups where I like to have an offline archive
>>> of the group.
>>>
>>> Unless someone knows how to change that? I find no settings.
>>
>> Best thing I can suggest is to backup your messages to somewhere else.
>
> I do backup once in a whilem but nothign so fancy as what you
> suggest. I just copy the data folder.

Well, my batch file makes sure that you don't lose anything, if Xnews decides
it's time to delete something. (What I posted is a modified version of the
script I use to start Xnews; I backup the data directory before launching
Xnews, every time.)

> The nice thing about XNews is it does not install into Windows.
> Whenever I needed to build/rebuild a system, all you have to do
> is copy the XNews folder, and then make a desktop shortcut pointing
> to the exe. I think ALL software should be like this.

On the one hand, I agree (I keep a "Wintools" directory full of things that
don't need installing; it's larger than my "Program Files" dir).

On the other hand, no installer = no "made for windows" certification, which
I guess is important to some people.

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May 25, 2011, 11:36:06 AM5/25/11
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RIGHTO!
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