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Ohmster

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Feb 13, 2010, 12:17:31 PM2/13/10
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I have an Adara Slimstar flatbed scanner that I have had and took
excellent care of since I got it with a new, top of the line Win98
computer. I used the flatbed with XP Pro by using Mustek drivers for a
Slimscan scanner with the twain 32 drivers, swiss knife program, and it
came with some sort of "fake" scssi driver that would put a fake scssi
device in the device manager. This worked fine, other than if you tried
to scan in line art mode, the computer would lock up. No big deal, can
always drop the color pallet depth later. Now that I have Windows 7, NO
driver anywhere will work with this scanner.

Since Linux has always supported flatbed scanners, I decided to give it a
try and hook it up to the parallel port of my Fedora 12 machine. xsane
finds no available scanners. I do have the kernel module loaded for
parport-pc:

[ohmster@ohmster ~]$ lsmod |grep parport
parport_pc 22748 0
parport 29300 2 ppdev,parport_pc
[ohmster@ohmster ~]$

I do not have a link to any kind of scanner in /dev

I also uncommented mustek_pp in my /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file. But I
cannot find a scanner on the system at all. Any kind of HOW-TO is very
vague on this subject of parallel port scanners with sane. Most of them
tell to use a modern USB scanner and be done with it.

So the question is, do I have any hope of ever using this wonderful
scanner ever again or using it in Linux? It seems that no one will write
drivers for an old product and the existing drivers do not work with a
modern OS. What to do, throw out the scanner or is there a way to make it
work in Fedora 12?

Help please. Thank you.

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philo

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Feb 13, 2010, 1:04:55 PM2/13/10
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There is rather limited support for parallel port scanners...
as much as I like keeping old hardware alive...
I'd say it's time to move on.

Heck I bet you could go down to your local second hand shop
and pick up a newer USB scanner for $2

Baron

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Feb 13, 2010, 1:57:14 PM2/13/10
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Ohmster Inscribed thus:

>
> I have an Adara Slimstar flatbed scanner that I have had and took
> excellent care of since I got it with a new, top of the line Win98
> computer. I used the flatbed with XP Pro by using Mustek drivers for a
> Slimscan scanner with the twain 32 drivers, swiss knife program, and
> it came with some sort of "fake" scssi driver that would put a fake
> scssi device in the device manager. This worked fine, other than if
> you tried to scan in line art mode, the computer would lock up. No big
> deal, can always drop the color pallet depth later. Now that I have
> Windows 7, NO driver anywhere will work with this scanner.

I have two different, new still in the box parallel port scanners.
So I have some sympathy with you. Both scanners had some difficulties
running with W98/2K and were really SCSI devices in disguise.

I did buy a 25pin SCSI adaptor card which improved the behavior, but by
that time I had lost interest in them, boxed them back up and put them
away. As far as I recall they are still in the loft somewhere.

> Since Linux has always supported flatbed scanners, I decided to give
> it a try and hook it up to the parallel port of my Fedora 12 machine.
> xsane finds no available scanners. I do have the kernel module loaded
> for parport-pc:
>
> [ohmster@ohmster ~]$ lsmod |grep parport
> parport_pc 22748 0
> parport 29300 2 ppdev,parport_pc
> [ohmster@ohmster ~]$
>
> I do not have a link to any kind of scanner in /dev

Part of the problem is that there is no way for the scanner to be probed
to identify it. Also the parallel port has to be programmed to behave
as a SCSI port. It should be possible to write something to do this if
it hasn't been done already. Or if you can get or use a SCSI card and
25pin adaptor.

> I also uncommented mustek_pp in my /etc/sane.d/dll.conf file. But I
> cannot find a scanner on the system at all. Any kind of HOW-TO is very
> vague on this subject of parallel port scanners with sane. Most of
> them tell to use a modern USB scanner and be done with it.

I suppose the actual scanning software would work if it could see
something to send the output to. I think that I would investigate the
requirements of the 25pin SCSI and compare those to the parallel port.
I do recall that they were supposed to be able to "pass through" the
normal printer signals, though I never got that to work.

> So the question is, do I have any hope of ever using this wonderful
> scanner ever again or using it in Linux? It seems that no one will
> write drivers for an old product and the existing drivers do not work
> with a modern OS. What to do, throw out the scanner or is there a way
> to make it work in Fedora 12?
>
> Help please. Thank you.

I confess that I have never bothered with any form of scanning since I
dumped windows and moved to Linux. I bought a Samsung MCX4200 all in
one laser printer scanner recently, which is admittedly a USB device.
It was literally plug it in and use it with almost no configuration.
It also cost a lot less than I originally paid for the first scanner.

M2P.

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Best Regards:
Baron.

J G Miller

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Feb 13, 2010, 3:06:30 PM2/13/10
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 11:17:31 -0600, Ohmster asked:

> So the question is, do I have any hope of ever using this wonderful
> scanner ever again or using it in Linux?

Have you bothered to look at the Scanner HOWTO, specifically

2.3. Parallel Port Scanners

Parallel-port scanners on the whole can be made to work if there is a
backend that supports them, however if your device also has a USB port
(which the vast majority of new scanners released nowadays do) and a
working USB backend you are strongly encouraged to use that instead, as
it may be more easily configured.

If your model has only a parallel-port interface and a proprietary or
non-standard controller you could be out of luck. If you have found
there is a supported backend for the parallel-port interface of your
scanner, then you should see Section 2.8.

> is there a way to make it work in Fedora 12?


You should be aware that Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution and
in keeping with Red Hat policy drops support for old hardware.

If you want to get old hardware working under GNU/Linux, Fedora 12
is not the best distribution to have any hope of it working.

Ohmster

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Feb 13, 2010, 5:29:02 PM2/13/10
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philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
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> There is rather limited support for parallel port scanners...
> as much as I like keeping old hardware alive...
> I'd say it's time to move on.

Thanks!

Ohmster

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Feb 13, 2010, 5:29:39 PM2/13/10
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Baron <baron....@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in news:hl6sm5$qo1$1
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[..]


> I confess that I have never bothered with any form of scanning since I
> dumped windows and moved to Linux. I bought a Samsung MCX4200 all in
> one laser printer scanner recently, which is admittedly a USB device.
> It was literally plug it in and use it with almost no configuration.
> It also cost a lot less than I originally paid for the first scanner.
>
> M2P.

That is what I though. Thanks for the info.

Ohmster

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Feb 13, 2010, 5:36:02 PM2/13/10
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J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.ORG> wrote in news:1266091...@vo.lu:

[..]


> Have you bothered to look at the Scanner HOWTO, specifically
>
> 2.3. Parallel Port Scanners
>

Of course. Unfortunately, they do not go into how to do it, step by step,
there are various backends and frontends to be setup and configures, plus
kernel module support. This turns installing a simple flatbed scanner into
a several week, hair pulling nightmare that probably won't work. I got some
very negative results from searching on this topic and wanted to see if
anyone here got one to work and if so, how they did it and was it very
difficult. Does not look very promising, time to toss this thing into the
landfill and try out the Lexmark X8350 in the other room. It has a USB
interface, I just did not want to use it because that is another printer
that I will have to buy ink for and I am not excited about the price of
ink, especially with running more than one printer. Right now I have an HP
920c on Windows 7 and have always been able to share it with Linux but
since installing Windows 7, for the life of me I cannot get it to work with
samba, although the file shares work just fine.

Looks like for real time to pitch the Adara scanner into the landfill and
it is such a good scanner too. :(

philo

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Feb 13, 2010, 6:10:34 PM2/13/10
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Ohmster wrote:
> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:qbednS5IEYJVdOvW...@ntd.net:
>
>> There is rather limited support for parallel port scanners...
>> as much as I like keeping old hardware alive...
>> I'd say it's time to move on.
>
> Thanks!
>

FWIW:

I did make a decent try at getting my parallel port scanner working
but finally gave up.

Though I have quite a few USB scanners
I took a more challenging route and decided to try a SCSI scanner

that worked OK

J G Miller

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Feb 13, 2010, 6:30:43 PM2/13/10
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:36:02 -0600, Ohmster wrote:

> Right now I have an HP 920c on Windows 7 and have always been able to
> share it with Linux but since installing Windows 7, for the life of me
> I cannot get it to work with samba

Can other Windoze machines see it? Maybe you should ask in a Windoze
group about sharing scanners from Windows 7.

> Looks like for real time to pitch the Adara scanner into the landfill
> and it is such a good scanner too. :(

Do not be too hasty.

Would it be possible to get it to work in a virtual machine,
with VMWare running Windows 98, or other virtualization software?

Ohmster

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Feb 14, 2010, 12:43:34 PM2/14/10
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philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
news:VN6dnbQpucn2rOrW...@ntd.net:

> FWIW:
>
> I did make a decent try at getting my parallel port scanner working
> but finally gave up.
>
> Though I have quite a few USB scanners
> I took a more challenging route and decided to try a SCSI scanner
>
> that worked OK

Yeah but you had a real SCSSI scanner, didn't you? You did not try to make
the parallel scanner work as a SCSSI, did you? That is how this Adara used
to work in Windows, as a fake SCSSI but it sure does not work in Linux or
Windows 7. Time for the landfill I guess. :(

Ohmster

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Feb 14, 2010, 12:59:39 PM2/14/10
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J G Miller <mil...@yoyo.ORG> wrote in news:1266103...@vo.lu:

> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:36:02 -0600, Ohmster wrote:
>
>> Right now I have an HP 920c on Windows 7 and have always been able to
>> share it with Linux but since installing Windows 7, for the life of me
>> I cannot get it to work with samba
>
> Can other Windoze machines see it? Maybe you should ask in a Windoze
> group about sharing scanners from Windows 7.

The only way to install it on a doze box is with an old OS like Win98
with original drivers or XP with the Musteck Slimscan drivers. These
drivers will not work or install on Vista or Windows 7 at all. Although I
do like Windows XP Pro, my only other computer is a Fedora 12 box that is
my web server, FTP server, and I would not be without. So I have no other
machine with an early doze OS available to install it to.

>> Looks like for real time to pitch the Adara scanner into the landfill
>> and it is such a good scanner too. :(
>
> Do not be too hasty.
>
> Would it be possible to get it to work in a virtual machine,
> with VMWare running Windows 98, or other virtualization software?
>

I tried it with virtual XP on my Windows 7 machine, they do include that
with Windows 7 for those that have programs that will not work at all in
Windows 7 but the VM has some limitations. For one, you get NO
accelerated graphics at all, ONLY VGA. Although I could access all other
drives, shares, Internet, etc., I could not install the scanner drivers
and make it work in Virtual XP. I think because this really is a hardware
dependant issue and not something you can "fake out" with a VM. Either
you have the hardware and proper drivers or you don't. Windows 7 would
not allow me to add devices to the VM that could not exist in Windows 7
itself.

So although the XP VM that comes with Windows 7 is pretty neat, to me it
is also pretty useless. If I had some sort of business program, maybe
like a medical billing program, it would run on the VM but I could not
play 3D games or install the old drivers for the parallel port scanner
and make them work. The driver did install but it found NO devices when
it scanned the bus. The scanner driver creates a fake SCSSI port and adds
the scanner to it. Windows 7 will have no part of it, VM or no VM.
...sigh.

The scanner is really 20 years old or more but you could not tell by
looking at it or using it. It seems like a perfectly serviceable flatbed
somewhat modern, if not bare bones, flatbed scanner. I guess it is really
time to let it go, it is not like I did not get my money's worth out of
it. I have a modern Lexmartk 8500 all in one machine that I can use, I
just don't want to buy ink for it and all the room it takes up. I guess
it is time to give it up and try out the Lexmark and take the Adara
scanner down.

...ah shoot! I am *so* out of USB plugs it is not funny. I have one hub
but these hubs are not all they are cracked up to be, some stuff just
will not work with hubs and aside from the two front USB jacks, I am way
out of room on the USB bus. Sucks, doesn't it?

Thanks for your help people.

philo

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Feb 14, 2010, 1:14:03 PM2/14/10
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Ohmster wrote:
> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:VN6dnbQpucn2rOrW...@ntd.net:
>
>> FWIW:
>>
>> I did make a decent try at getting my parallel port scanner working
>> but finally gave up.
>>
>> Though I have quite a few USB scanners
>> I took a more challenging route and decided to try a SCSI scanner
>>
>> that worked OK
>
> Yeah but you had a real SCSSI scanner, didn't you? You did not try to make
> the parallel scanner work as a SCSSI, did you? That is how this Adara used
> to work in Windows, as a fake SCSSI but it sure does not work in Linux or
> Windows 7. Time for the landfill I guess. :(
>

Correct

I spent a bit of time trying to get a parallel port scanner to work
but finally gave up

the scanner I am using is a real SCSI scanner


in general Linux should have no problems with either USB or SCSI scanners.

I take my old computer equipment to the recyclers
so at least the old junk does not go into a land fill

clone4crw

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Feb 14, 2010, 1:51:16 PM2/14/10
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No! Don't throw it out! Make it into a lamp or something. That's what
I did with my old Parallel scanner. I just took out the fluorescent
bulb and the inverter board and soldered on a switch and a 9v DC
transformer to it. I made a stand using some bottles and duct tape and
it works great. Then recycle/throw out all the other parts.

philo

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Feb 14, 2010, 2:41:48 PM2/14/10
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Heck just add a PCI USB2 card

Baron

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Ohmster Inscribed thus:

> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:VN6dnbQpucn2rOrW...@ntd.net:
>
>> FWIW:
>>
>> I did make a decent try at getting my parallel port scanner working
>> but finally gave up.
>>
>> Though I have quite a few USB scanners
>> I took a more challenging route and decided to try a SCSI scanner
>>
>> that worked OK
>
> Yeah but you had a real SCSSI scanner, didn't you? You did not try to
> make the parallel scanner work as a SCSSI, did you? That is how this
> Adara used to work in Windows, as a fake SCSSI but it sure does not
> work in Linux or Windows 7. Time for the landfill I guess. :(
>

The "Adara" is a SCSI scanner on a 25pin interface !
The software had to make the printer port behave like a SCSI one.
Too bad the software was flaky.

As an addendum to my previous post, I went up into the loft and
discovered the interface card that I bought in order to persuade my
scanner(s) to work with W98. Its a "Spot" branded 8 bit ISA card with
a label on it that says "plug into a 16 bit slot only". There are
three jumpers to select the interrupt number.

So I suggest that with SCSI card in the computer it may well work.
I wish my machine had an ISA slot, then I could have a play with it.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

TJ

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Feb 14, 2010, 10:30:33 PM2/14/10
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On 02/14/2010 01:14 PM, philo wrote:

>
> in general Linux should have no problems with either USB or SCSI scanners.
>

But of course like all generalities, that doesn't always hold up well. I
have a Visioneer OneTouch 7600 USB scanner that has never worked with
Linux. It's too bad really, because it's a nice scanner. I bought it
from Office Max on a $20-after-rebate deal back around 2001. Worked
great with Windows 98SE, and still worked great the last time I used it,
a couple of years ago. It uses some kind of oddball chipset - E3(?) or
something like that. There was once a project to write a Linux driver
for that chipset, but it died off before getting very far.
Interestingly, there was also a parallel version of the same model
scanner, and from what I read somewhere it worked fine with Linux.

Fortunately, I've also had two multifunction HP printers, and those
scanners work beautifully with Linux. Well, at least until the scanner
bulbs give out...

TJ
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- Theodore Sturgeon

David Schwartz

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On Feb 13, 10:57 am, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net>
wrote:

> I have two different, new still in the box parallel port scanners.
> So I have some sympathy with you.  Both scanners had some difficulties
> running with W98/2K and were really SCSI devices in disguise.

They are either parallel-port scanners or they are SCSI scanners. I
have never seen nor heard of a scanner that used a single port for
both purposes. If you connect a 25-pin SCSI connector a parallel-port
scanner, it cannot possibly work.

> I did buy a 25pin SCSI adaptor card which improved the behavior, but by
> that time I had lost interest in them, boxed them back up and put them
> away.  As far as I recall they are still in the loft somewhere.  

The printer either had a parallel port of a SCSI port. They are both
25 pin connectors, but other than that they are not at all similar.
The SCSI scanners typically came with a cheap SCSI card and cable.

DS

Jasen Betts

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Feb 17, 2010, 5:42:46 AM2/17/10
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On 2010-02-17, David Schwartz <dav...@webmaster.com> wrote:
>
> They are either parallel-port scanners or they are SCSI scanners. I
> have never seen nor heard of a scanner that used a single port for
> both purposes. If you connect a 25-pin SCSI connector a parallel-port
> scanner, it cannot possibly work.

> The printer either had a parallel port of a SCSI port. They are both


> 25 pin connectors, but other than that they are not at all similar.
> The SCSI scanners typically came with a cheap SCSI card and cable.

There is a way to tunnel SCSI over a parallel port. Early external
CDROM drives and Zip drives used it, possibly some scanners did too,
But as you say it doesn't make the parallel port pin-compatible
with a SCSI port because the SCSI bus is only on the far side of the
parallel-scsi adaptor circuit. The "ppa" and "imm" modules are
drivers for some of these SCSI adaptors


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Baron

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Feb 19, 2010, 3:31:14 PM2/19/10
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Hi David,
Sorry for the late response.

David Schwartz Inscribed thus:

> On Feb 13, 10:57 am, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have two different, new still in the box parallel port scanners.
>> So I have some sympathy with you.  Both scanners had some
>> difficulties running with W98/2K and were really SCSI devices in
>> disguise.
>
> They are either parallel-port scanners or they are SCSI scanners. I
> have never seen nor heard of a scanner that used a single port for
> both purposes. If you connect a 25-pin SCSI connector a parallel-port
> scanner, it cannot possibly work.

The scanners were basically SCSI. But the software used the LPTx port
as a SCSI compatible one in order to drive them.

>> I did buy a 25pin SCSI adaptor card which improved the behavior, but
>> by that time I had lost interest in them, boxed them back up and put
>> them away.  As far as I recall they are still in the loft somewhere.
>

> The printer either had a parallel port or a SCSI port. They are both


> 25 pin connectors, but other than that they are not at all similar.
> The SCSI scanners typically came with a cheap SCSI card and cable.
>
> DS

There was never any problem with the printer other than the scanner was
supposed to pass through the printer signals. The software for the
scanner left the printer (LPT) port in an inderteminite state, the
result was that the printer just didn't print when asked to.

There were SCSI scanners that did come with an adaptor card that was
basically an 8 bit SCSI port. Indeed I've used them to drive SCSI hard
drives.

There were also true parallel port scanners which didn't use the SCSI
protocols to drive them. Agfa made several models, non of which would
run connected to a SCSI port.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Ohmster

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clone4crw <clon...@gmail.com> wrote in news:eeac6a0c-5d2a-44d7-87a0-
8b86df...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:

>
> No! Don't throw it out! Make it into a lamp or something. That's what
> I did with my old Parallel scanner. I just took out the fluorescent
> bulb and the inverter board and soldered on a switch and a 9v DC
> transformer to it. I made a stand using some bottles and duct tape and
> it works great. Then recycle/throw out all the other parts.

LOL! Now that is something that I have *got* to see! I know, I know, this
is not a binary newsgroup but can you put it on a webserver somewhere as a
jpg and give me a link, please? I want to see this thing so bad I think I
will pee in my pants if I don't get to see it soon!

Ohmster

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Mar 15, 2010, 9:23:19 PM3/15/10
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Baron <baron....@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in news:hl9pal$cs1$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

>
> The "Adara" is a SCSI scanner on a 25pin interface !
> The software had to make the printer port behave like a SCSI one.
> Too bad the software was flaky.
>
> As an addendum to my previous post, I went up into the loft and
> discovered the interface card that I bought in order to persuade my
> scanner(s) to work with W98. Its a "Spot" branded 8 bit ISA card with
> a label on it that says "plug into a 16 bit slot only". There are
> three jumpers to select the interrupt number.
>
> So I suggest that with SCSI card in the computer it may well work.
> I wish my machine had an ISA slot, then I could have a play with it.
>
> --
> Best Regards:
> Baron.
>

Wow, now that really is interesting Baron. I do have ISA slots, I hate to
throw away anything that was worth a lot once or was top of the line at
one time. My computer I bought new at the time for three thousand five
hundred dollars and it came with the Adara flatbed scanner, a 21" CRT
monitor (*Nobody* had a monitor *that* huge!), an AWE64 Gold ISA sound
card, an nvidia AGP video card although I forget the original card,
awesome speakers, natural ergonomic keyboard, a Pentium III Coppermine
800Mhz now at 1.5Gb SDRAM, and well, the thing always worked so good that
I could not just throw it out when I finally bought a much faster AMD
computer so it became my first Red Hat 6.0 server and has run Red Hat and
Fedora ever since. It has a nice Nvidia GeForce 5500 card in it and does
compiz-fusion like no tomorrow, still serving up apache and FTP, and
never has let me down. I finally had to get a new sound card for it when
I updated Fedora and forgot how to load the SB module to make it work and
now even Fedora does not recognize that sound card unless you load the
kernel module yourself with modprobe.

Anyway, I got a Lexmark printer that I took home from work that is an all
in one USB with scanner, printer, the whole nine yards and it works a
treat. I use it on Windows 7 but both machines are networked together so
what one machine has, the other one has too. I love working with
Dreamweaver on Windows and actually having a network share right to a
real, online, working, FQDN apache server for testing and actual web use.
Linux really does rock.

So you have a new machine that did away with ISA slots now? What do you
have, PCI Express?

Ohmster

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Mar 15, 2010, 9:37:21 PM3/15/10
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philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
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[..]


>> ...ah shoot! I am *so* out of USB plugs it is not funny. I have one
>> hub but these hubs are not all they are cracked up to be, some stuff
>> just will not work with hubs and aside from the two front USB jacks,
>> I am way out of room on the USB bus. Sucks, doesn't it?
>>
>> Thanks for your help people.
>>
>
>
>
> Heck just add a PCI USB2 card

Thanks philo. You know, I didn't think of that but that is not a bad idea
at all and I might just end up going that route. I got a Natural ergonomic
keyboard as a gift and it could go USB or PS2 port. I was thrilled to free
up a USB port and naturally put it in the PS2 slot. Windows 7 had a fit,
BSOD all the way, just could not do it, I think because I just did not have
the interrupt to spare for the PS2 port so I had to go back to USB on the
keyboard. I should look at the device manager to see what is using that
interrupt, what number is it? Oh google will tell me that...

Hmmm, interrupt 1 is used for a standard Intel keyboard port. I found this
on a Linux scripting page. Shoot, I have a hell of a lot of interrupts
going on here, irq 83, 190?!! I did not know they went that high. No IRQ 1
listed in device manager though. Hmmm, I have no idea why the AMD Phenom
will not run with a round plug keyboard. I give up.

Whiskers

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On 2010-03-16, Ohmster <ro...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote:
> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:wuudnRtY6ephzOXW...@ntd.net:

[...]

> Thanks philo. You know, I didn't think of that but that is not a bad idea
> at all and I might just end up going that route. I got a Natural ergonomic
> keyboard as a gift and it could go USB or PS2 port. I was thrilled to free
> up a USB port and naturally put it in the PS2 slot. Windows 7 had a fit,
> BSOD all the way, just could not do it, I think because I just did not have
> the interrupt to spare for the PS2 port so I had to go back to USB on the
> keyboard. I should look at the device manager to see what is using that
> interrupt, what number is it? Oh google will tell me that...

PS/2 connectors can't be plugged in or unplugged while the computer is
powered up - doing so could even damage the PS/2 parts of the motherboard.
Try plugging in the PS/2 keyboard while the computer is powered down; if
all is well, I think the power-on self test should detect the keyboard and
pass the information on to the operating system when that starts.

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Baron

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Ohmster Inscribed thus:

PCI & PCIE. The Adaptec card is PCI but no 8 or 16 bit ports.

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philo

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I agree

I've never heard of a PS/2 port interfering with anything

as to USB-2 a PCI card probably costs less than 20 bucks

Jasen Betts

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On 2010-03-16, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote:
> On 2010-03-16, Ohmster <ro...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote:
>> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:wuudnRtY6ephzOXW...@ntd.net:
>
> [...]
>
>> Thanks philo. You know, I didn't think of that but that is not a bad idea
>> at all and I might just end up going that route. I got a Natural ergonomic
>> keyboard as a gift and it could go USB or PS2 port. I was thrilled to free
>> up a USB port and naturally put it in the PS2 slot. Windows 7 had a fit,
>> BSOD all the way, just could not do it, I think because I just did not have
>> the interrupt to spare for the PS2 port so I had to go back to USB on the
>> keyboard. I should look at the device manager to see what is using that
>> interrupt, what number is it? Oh google will tell me that...
>
> PS/2 connectors can't be plugged in or unplugged while the computer is
> powered up - doing so could even damage the PS/2 parts of the motherboard.

The probability of that actually happening is pretty low.
- less than 0.1%, linux handles ps/2 devices being plugged in and
unplugged while it's running very well, windows not so much.

but if you're woried USB to ps/2 adaptors are cheap. (uses up a USB port
though)

J G Miller

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Mar 17, 2010, 10:51:42 AM3/17/10
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:53:57 +0000, Jasen Betts wrote:

> The probability of that actually happening is pretty low. - less than
> 0.1%, linux handles ps/2 devices being plugged in and unplugged while
> it's running very well, windows not so much.

I have always found that if the mouse is disconnected while the X server
is running, then the mouse sprite freezes, and remains stuck even after
the mouse is reconnected. The only way to get the mouse functionality
back is to restart the X server.

So KVM devices simulate the presence of a mouse connection to each
connected machine in order to switch between machines and not cause
loss of mouse functionality.

Thankfully the keyboard does not suffer the same problem if disconnected.

clone4crw

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On Mar 15, 8:13 pm, Ohmster <r...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote:
> clone4crw <clone4...@gmail.com> wrote in news:eeac6a0c-5d2a-44d7-87a0-
> 8b86dfe82...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:

Yeah I sure can. Give me a little time, I'll post them somewhere
tonight.

clone4crw

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On Mar 15, 8:13 pm, Ohmster <r...@dev.nul.invalid> wrote:
> clone4crw <clone4...@gmail.com> wrote in news:eeac6a0c-5d2a-44d7-87a0-
> 8b86dfe82...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > No! Don't throw it out! Make it into a lamp or something. That's what
> > I did with my old Parallel scanner. I just took out the fluorescent
> > bulb and the inverter board and soldered on a switch and a 9v DC
> > transformer to it. I made a stand using some bottles and duct tape and
> > it works great. Then recycle/throw out all the other parts.
>
> LOL! Now that is something that I have *got* to see! I know, I know, this
> is not a binary newsgroup but can you put it on a webserver somewhere as a
> jpg and give me a link, please? I want to see this thing so bad I think I
> will pee in my pants if I don't get to see it soon!
>
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http://picasaweb.google.com/clone4crw/ScannerBulbLamp?feat=directlink
There's a few pics of it if you're still interested

Ohmster

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clone4crw <clon...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1b801ad9-4e41-4c8e-a7e8-
84ae97...@e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:

> http://picasaweb.google.com/clone4crw/ScannerBulbLamp?feat=directlink
> There's a few pics of it if you're still interested
>

Sorry about the very late reply. That is so freaking cool, I love it! I am
an electronic technician of over 20 years experience, and this is just the
cat's pajamas! Thanks for sharing. :)

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