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DrTeeth
May 13, 2012, 11:55:08 AM5/13/12
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How come KDE 4.8.3 was available via the Cinnamon update manager and
not YaST?
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not YaST?
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DrTeeth
May 13, 2012, 12:06:03 PM5/13/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 16:55:08 +0100, just as I was about to take a
herb, DrTeeth <no-e...@tardis.com> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>How come KDE 4.8.3 was available via the Cinnamon update manager and
>not YaST?
In Open SuSE 12.1
herb, DrTeeth <no-e...@tardis.com> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>How come KDE 4.8.3 was available via the Cinnamon update manager and
>not YaST?
DenverD
May 13, 2012, 4:18:16 PM5/13/12
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On 05/13/2012 05:55 PM, DrTeeth wrote:
> How come KDE 4.8.3 was available via the Cinnamon update manager and
> not YaST?
i've neither installed nor used 'Cinnamon update manager' so i'm not
> How come KDE 4.8.3 was available via the Cinnamon update manager and
> not YaST?
sure what it is doing (but if it is anything like apper or packagekit,
it is garbage and will kill your openSUSE)..
YaST Online Update pulls only from the update repo...and, that repo does
not contain 4.8.3..
so, to get that installed with YaST you have to use Software Management,
while the 4.8.3 containing repo is enabled and "switch" sources..
there are several posts with specific instructions in
forums.opensuse.org, have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/6ulebe6 where
you are also likely to find some of the problems folks are having after
'upgrading'....you may want to weigh the cost vs benefits..
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DrTeeth
May 13, 2012, 5:59:15 PM5/13/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 22:18:16 +0200, just as I was about to take a
herb, DenverD <Den...@invalid.dk> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>there are several posts with specific instructions in
>forums.opensuse.org, have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/6ulebe6 where
>you are also likely to find some of the problems folks are having after
>'upgrading'....you may want to weigh the cost vs benefits..
Upgraded two PCs this way to KDE 4.8.3 without any obvious issues at
herb, DenverD <Den...@invalid.dk> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>there are several posts with specific instructions in
>forums.opensuse.org, have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/6ulebe6 where
>you are also likely to find some of the problems folks are having after
>'upgrading'....you may want to weigh the cost vs benefits..
all. Sorry, LOL.
DenverD
May 13, 2012, 6:11:13 PM5/13/12
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On 05/13/2012 11:59 PM, DrTeeth wrote:
>
> Upgraded two PCs this way to KDE 4.8.3 without any obvious issues at
> all. Sorry, LOL.
with so few complaining it is certainly not all who have
>
> Upgraded two PCs this way to KDE 4.8.3 without any obvious issues at
> all. Sorry, LOL.
problems...congrats on your smooth move..
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Vic Titious
May 13, 2012, 6:19:58 PM5/13/12
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I just found I run 4.8.3 and I have never used a Cinnamon thing.
I remember reading lately Cinnamon was available for Debian-based Mint
Linux, and provided a cool-new re-tooled version of Gnome to Mint users, but
never checked in to whether they provide for other distros.
Another reason Suse doesn't rush things for installation is that I get the
impression they are more cautious in testing.
DrTeeth
May 14, 2012, 12:40:49 PM5/14/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:19:58 -0400, just as I was about to take a
herb, Vic Titious <ho...@moesbar.org> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>I remember reading lately Cinnamon was available for Debian-based Mint
>Linux, and provided a cool-new re-tooled version of Gnome to Mint users, but
>never checked in to whether they provide for other distros.
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Cinnamon
herb, Vic Titious <ho...@moesbar.org> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>I remember reading lately Cinnamon was available for Debian-based Mint
>Linux, and provided a cool-new re-tooled version of Gnome to Mint users, but
>never checked in to whether they provide for other distros.
I wonder where the updater in the Cinnamon WM got the KDE update from?
Hang on, just checking another PC...it got the KDE updates from
"KDE_Release_48_openSUSE_12.1", which I assume is an official SuSE
repository, unless somebody knows otherwise.
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Vic Titious
May 14, 2012, 11:22:39 PM5/14/12
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houghi wrote:
> This does not make it offcial. It just makes it available.
> Factory. This is a process that does updates on a daily basis. Sometimes
> changes are small, sometimes they are large.
> At certain intervals they will make CDs and DVDs available. This is
> considerd the development release and it means that sometimes things
> won't work for varius reasons.
>
> At a certain point in time they will fork it into a new release. This
> means that the Factory will go on, while whatever there is availble at
> that moment in time will not change anymore.¹
>
> This means that something like KDE, GNOME or XFCE will stick with that
> version in e.g. 12.1 and a new version will be available in e.g. 12.2
>
> openSUSE generaly does no version updates, but rather does security
> updates.
>
> Some people do want to have the latest version of some program availbel.
> The majority because it is a higher number, some people because they
> actually need the fixes that have been done.
>
> To accomode those people, they m,ake then available via OBS. These are
> however almost never offical releases.
>
> Anybody can go to the OBS, ask for an account and start building
> packages. Just one or the whole of openSUSE or just KDE or anything
> else.
>
> So no, for standard releases, they do not rush things. However if you so
> desire, you can use software on OBS. You must however be aware that
> these are often not tested on whatever version you are running and thus
> might cause problems.
>
> OTOH it is good to try them out and then give feedback if it does not.
> This means opening a ticket or reponding to requests at open tickets.
> This is a great way to participate in Open Source Development.
>
> Some URLs that might be of interest:
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Development
>
>
> ¹It is not that definative, some things will change, depending on the
> bugs they get.
>
> houghi
Appreciate the explanation.
> This does not make it offcial. It just makes it available.
>
>> I just found I run 4.8.3 and I have never used a Cinnamon thing.
>>
>> I remember reading lately Cinnamon was available for Debian-based Mint
>> Linux, and provided a cool-new re-tooled version of Gnome to Mint users,
>> but never checked in to whether they provide for other distros.
>>
>> Another reason Suse doesn't rush things for installation is that I get
>> the impression they are more cautious in testing.
>
> openSUSE has a process on which things get done. There first is the
>> I just found I run 4.8.3 and I have never used a Cinnamon thing.
>>
>> I remember reading lately Cinnamon was available for Debian-based Mint
>> Linux, and provided a cool-new re-tooled version of Gnome to Mint users,
>> but never checked in to whether they provide for other distros.
>>
>> Another reason Suse doesn't rush things for installation is that I get
>> the impression they are more cautious in testing.
>
> Factory. This is a process that does updates on a daily basis. Sometimes
> changes are small, sometimes they are large.
> At certain intervals they will make CDs and DVDs available. This is
> considerd the development release and it means that sometimes things
> won't work for varius reasons.
>
> At a certain point in time they will fork it into a new release. This
> means that the Factory will go on, while whatever there is availble at
> that moment in time will not change anymore.¹
>
> This means that something like KDE, GNOME or XFCE will stick with that
> version in e.g. 12.1 and a new version will be available in e.g. 12.2
>
> openSUSE generaly does no version updates, but rather does security
> updates.
>
> Some people do want to have the latest version of some program availbel.
> The majority because it is a higher number, some people because they
> actually need the fixes that have been done.
>
> To accomode those people, they m,ake then available via OBS. These are
> however almost never offical releases.
>
> Anybody can go to the OBS, ask for an account and start building
> packages. Just one or the whole of openSUSE or just KDE or anything
> else.
>
> So no, for standard releases, they do not rush things. However if you so
> desire, you can use software on OBS. You must however be aware that
> these are often not tested on whatever version you are running and thus
> might cause problems.
>
> OTOH it is good to try them out and then give feedback if it does not.
> This means opening a ticket or reponding to requests at open tickets.
> This is a great way to participate in Open Source Development.
>
> Some URLs that might be of interest:
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap
> http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Development
>
>
> ¹It is not that definative, some things will change, depending on the
> bugs they get.
>
> houghi
Appreciate the explanation.
Darklight
May 15, 2012, 4:41:21 AM5/15/12
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the address is below. as you can see i run 12.1
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1
DrTeeth
May 17, 2012, 3:04:36 PM5/17/12
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On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:22:39 -0400, just as I was about to take a
herb, Vic Titious <ho...@moesbar.org> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>Appreciate the explanation.
+1
herb, Vic Titious <ho...@moesbar.org> disturbed my reverie and wrote:
>Appreciate the explanation.
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