Installation failure - no xorg.conf 11.2
Wildfour
Windows/Linux machines, the install failed due to video card driver
issues.
It's a P4 machine with an ordinary GeForce 6200/256MB adapter. When
I did the 11.2 upgrade, I got a garbled screen. So I went in to
change "nvidia" to "nv" and found no "xorg.conf" file. Nice surprise.
On restart to the safe mode, the system wouldn't give me a VESA
server, so I was screwed. I don't know enough to get around that
problem.
So I switched to a lowly FX5200 adapter I had lying around and 11.2
installed fine. No Compiz support.
To solve a networking question, I later replaced this Suse instance
with Ubuntu 9.10. Put the 6200 back in before I did that. Ubuntu
installed with a low res VESA screen and then put up a box saying that
I need new drivers and made 3 suggestions. I took the "recommended"
one, and the OS downloaded and installed the nVidia driver, and all
was well. I had to do that manually in the past. Now I've got a
Linux box with the 6200 card and Compiz support.
I'm glad they're trying to eliminate the manual xorg.conf file type
setup, but it definitely didn't work for me, so far at least. The
nVidia 6200 is not an exotic adapter.
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Jim
EHWollmann
"Wildfour" <wild...@nospam.org> wrote in message news:jjmig5d7jdqi6d4h6...@4ax.com...
> Windows/Linux machines, the install failed due to video card driver
> issues.
The dumbfucked Linux writters still haven't answer my question yet about making their EXE programs running by default.
It is a tragedy to have to add many patches, and Liarnux isn't stopping smelling.
DenverD
> So I went in to
> change "nvidia" to "nv" and found no "xorg.conf" file. Nice surprise.
no surprise, it is in the documentation...xorg.conf is no longer
normally needed *if* all the automatic detection magic works..
if it doesn't, for say the video, then run sax2 and one will be built..
or, if you know what needs to be in there, just put your xorg.conf in
and it will override the auto-magic..
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EHWollmann
"DenverD" <spam...@SOMEwhere.dk> wrote in message news:4b0a3cd2$0$36570$edfa...@dtext01.news.tele.dk...
>> So I went in to
>> change "nvidia" to "nv" and found no "xorg.conf" file. Nice surprise.
>
> no surprise, it is in the documentation...xorg.conf is no longer
> normally needed *if* all the automatic detection magic works..
>
> if it doesn't, for say the video, then run sax2 and one will be built..
>
> or, if you know what needs to be in there, just put your xorg.conf in
> and it will override the auto-magic..
>
Wildfour
wrote:
>no surprise, it is in the documentation...xorg.conf is no longer
>normally needed *if* all the automatic detection magic works..
I didn't find out about this until later when I did some study as to
what went wrong.
>if it doesn't, for say the video, then run sax2 and one will be built..
Killing the X-server for some reason failed to get me to a prompt. It
just kept restarting as garbled. Same with "Safe Mode". So I got to a
prompt with "Rescue". I tried to run sax2, but it exited with
messages. I gave up and replaced the 6200 adapter with the FX5200 I
had lying around. The GeForce 6200 was not going to be. The 6200 was
working perfect with 11.1 before the upgrade.
Any skillful wizard could've gotten it going, but I'm not that person.
>or, if you know what needs to be in there, just put your xorg.conf in
>and it will override the auto-magic..
I didn't know that I'll admit. I didn't save the xorg.conf file from
the 11.1 instance, and that would've taken some fiddling.
I'm going to just leave that machine from now on as Ubuntu and use the
2 others with Suse. The ASUS netbook in particular works super with
Suse as does the vanilla Compaq destop.
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Jim
Wildfour
wrote:
>It is clearly stated in the Release Notes that are presented to you
>during the installation process that the xorg.conf is not there anymore.
I'll admit at best that I only skim those. Almost all of the info
that's typically there usually doesn't apply to me.
Unfortunately, this new configuration approach - and I see the value
of it - is not working out so well. I upgraded 3 machines from 11.1
to 11.2, and they all had display problems:
Even after I downgraded the machine #1 from a GeForce 6200 to FX5200
to install 11.2 it would sometimes hang on startup, and I had to
restart the X-server to get to the desktop. Compiz was not able to
function although I did have 3D acceleration and could properly use
Google Earth for instance. I'm just too busy to fight with trying to
learn internals - even though it's fun! - so I switched the machine to
Ubuntu 9.10, and now I have both the 6200 and Compiz.
On machine #2, an off-the-shelf AMD Compaq desktop with ATI adapter,
Suse 11.2 installed fine and had 3D acceleration. However, Compiz
complained that the system was not compatible and couldn't run. So
out of curiosity, I switched #2 to Ubuntu 9.10, and the install went
as smooth as Suse except that Compiz works now.
On machine #3, an ASUS eee netbook, no matter what I did with 11.1 or
11.2 there was no 3D acceleration although Compiz did work! In 11.1 I
chased all over for updated Intel display drivers but 3D acceleration
was not going to happen even though xorg.conf was configured for it. I
hoped in 11.2 that this problem would be resolved. It wasn't. So I
switched this final machine to Ubuntu, and I don't know what they did,
but now I have both Compiz and 3D acceleration on it. Google Earth
works in Linux on the netbook just like it does on the dual boot XP
instance that's on the machine.
I'm glad that there is experimentation to dump the legacy xorg.conf
process. That's super. But for now it's not working out so well, at
least in 100% of my instances, and I don't have time nor probably the
advanced skills requred to work around the issues. Ubuntu I guess is
probably more my speed.
And PS, I mainly look at Compiz as a Linux benchmark. On my Windows
machines including this W7, "Aero" is 100% shut off as usual. It does
make a difference when I run benchmaking software, so I don't want it.
The effects are annoying distractions. The fact that 2 of the 11.2
machines wouldn't run Compiz told me something about display setup
issues.
bb
A hint is that the install has slides, detailed list and release notes.
If you don't read the release notes you miss some information that you need
to know about important changes.
I was worried about the removal of xorg.conf, but it seems to work some way.
/Birre
Will Honea
> Killing the X-server for some reason failed to get me to a prompt. It
> just kept restarting as garbled. Same with "Safe Mode". So I got to a
> prompt with "Rescue". I tried to run sax2, but it exited with
> messages. I gave up and replaced the 6200 adapter with the FX5200 I
> had lying around. The GeForce 6200 was not going to be. The 6200 was
> working perfect with 11.1 before the upgrade.
>
> Any skillful wizard could've gotten it going, but I'm not that person.
I'm looking at the output of a 6200 right now. I installed the drivers from
the Nvidia site and configured with the Nvidia setup app and it "just
worked" so I can't help with your problems but the card shouldn't be the
issue.
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Will Honea