I have converted my résumé through a sequence of word processors, including WordPerfect, DeScribe, IBM Works and StarOffice 5.1; at each stage the export and import has added another layer of cruft. I'm at the point where I'm ready to through out all of the markup and start over, unless there is a good way to automatically clean it up. I have SuSE Linux Professional 9.0, and plan to upgrade it. I'd prefer not having to install any additional tools, and I'd prefer a format that I can tweak with a text editor, e.g., DocBook, XHTML.
So My question is what tools are available in SuSE to automate the cleanup. Among the things that might be of use:
XSLT to remove all font attributes.
Style sheets designed for use with résumés
Tools to reflow text with each HTML tag on a separate line.
Tools to add missing end tags to existing HTML so that I can use an XML editor.
A related question is whether OpenOffice has any facilities to do a mass change to markup in an existing StarOfffice document?
Thanks for any guidance or suggestions that you can provide.
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At 2004-06-06T21:26:14Z, "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> writes:
> I'd prefer not having to install any additional tools, and I'd prefer a > format that I can tweak with a text editor, e.g., DocBook, XHTML.
You want LaTeX. I use the "res" class to typeset my current resume, and it's the best looking one I've ever had. -- Kirk Strauser The Strauser Group Open. Solutions. Simple. http://www.strausergroup.com/
In <20040606231039.6679f...@allevil.local>, Kevin Nathan:
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> SUSE 8.2 comes with tetex. I'm sure the newer versions do, too.
Yes--I just pulled up YaST on both 9.0 and 9.1, and tetex is available.
(ISTR tetex is pulled in automagically when YaST installs latex)
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In article <eX9xc.55988$3x.22191@attbi_s54>, notbob wrote: >> Thanks for any guidance or suggestions that you can provide.
Keep it to 1 page. Worst case: 2 pages and work under the assumption that somebody in HR will loose the 2nd page before anybody important sees it.
> Style sheets? ...tags? ...XML? ...what the!?
> You trying to tell 'em your job qualifications or blind 'em > with bullshit? Just give 'em the facts with an ascii file. > Sheesh!
You just can't get much on one page using plain ASCII: 72 columns and 60 lines is about the limit. Perhaps that was cool back when you were a new grad and using nice big monospaced fonts allowed you to put a lot of ink on the page even though you didn't have anything to say.
After a few jobs, getting everything onto one page while still looking decent requires something a bit more sophisticated than ASCII text.
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> I have converted my résumé through a sequence of word processors, > including WordPerfect, DeScribe, IBM Works and StarOffice 5.1; at each > stage the export and import has added another layer of cruft. I'm at > the point where I'm ready to through out all of the markup and start > over, unless there is a good way to automatically clean it up. I have > SuSE Linux Professional 9.0, and plan to upgrade it. I'd prefer not > having to install any additional tools, and I'd prefer a format that I > can tweak with a text editor, e.g., DocBook, XHTML.
[snip] > Thanks for any guidance or suggestions that you can provide.
I suggest you trash that resume. Most resumes do not even get read.
Instead, get a neat book, or look at the book's author's web site...
Grant Edwards wrote: > After a few jobs, getting everything onto one page while still > looking decent requires something a bit more sophisticated than > ASCII text.
Run it through bzip and print it out. I mean, would you REALY want to work with a company who can not work that out? ;-)
On 2004-06-08, Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote:
> You just can't get much on one page using plain ASCII: 72 > columns and 60 lines is about the limit. Perhaps that was cool > back when you were a new grad and using nice big monospaced > fonts allowed you to put a lot of ink on the page even though > you didn't have anything to say.
The problem is not getting all you have to say, it's condensing the essentials down to the point where you don't put the reader to sleep. I've had to read more than a few resumes. There's nothing more tiresome than some guy who's put a whole freaking webpage with every detail of his life/workhistory in some headache-inducing microfont in order to revel you with his past glories in the workforce. After a couple dozen, the larger, easy to read, ascii font becomes the one you want to relax your eyeballs on all the way through to the end. Better to wow 'em with a couple exceptional accomplishments on your last 1 or 2 jobs to pique their interest so they request an interview, where you can then spill your guts and/or cut your own throat at their leisure.
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notbob wrote: > The problem is not getting all you have to say, it's condensing the > essentials down to the point where you don't put the reader to sleep.
ZZZZZZZ. ;-)
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Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: > In article <40ce2503$5$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: >> Have you ever applied for a job? A sloppy looking résumé can hurt your >> prospects. > As could misspelling resumé.
Indeed. But Shmuel knows how to spell it correctly. You apparently don't.
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In article <10csp65he4lv...@corp.supernews.com>, John Wingate wrote: > Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: >> In article <40ce2503$5$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>>> Have you ever applied for a job? A sloppy looking résumé can hurt your >>> prospects.
>> As could misspelling resumé.
> Indeed. But Shmuel knows how to spell it correctly. You apparently > don't.
Damn. You're right. I should have known better than criticize somebody else's spelling.
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:53:57 +0000, John Wingate wrote: > Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: >> In article <40ce2503$5$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>>> Have you ever applied for a job? A sloppy looking résumé can hurt your >>> prospects.
>> As could misspelling resumé.
> Indeed. But Shmuel knows how to spell it correctly. You apparently > don't.
Brian <nos...@my-local.net> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 02:53:57 +0000, John Wingate wrote: >> Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: >>> In article <40ce2503$5$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>>>> Have you ever applied for a job? A sloppy looking résumé can hurt your >>>> prospects.
>>> As could misspelling resumé.
>> Indeed. But Shmuel knows how to spell it correctly. You apparently >> don't. > Hmm - which dictionary? (just curious)
Now you made me check the dictionaries. :) All those I have on hand spell the word with two acute accents.
Webster's Third New International Dictionary (1966) The Random House Dictionary (1966) The Concise Oxford Dictionary (4th ed., 1952) Oxford English Dictionary (Compact edition¹, 1971)
You could naturalize the word into English and spell it without any accent marks if you like; confusion with the verb meaning to continue after interruption is unlikely.
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:19:57 +0000, John Wingate wrote:
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> You could naturalize the word into English and spell it without any > accent marks if you like; confusion with the verb meaning to continue > after interruption is unlikely.
That's great - thanks for the info. My inclination would be to drop the accents because, as you say, confusion with the unaccented verb form is unlikely and because this appears to be the commonly accepted spelling anyway. A quick Google for hints on resume writing soon confirmed that - I couldn't find one promoting the correct dictionary spelling.
I think I might also tend to think "uh-oh - pedant alert!" if I received an application for a job using the accented form. ;)
Shmuel: For my resume, I have tried a few things. Indeed sgml is ok, but I find the typesetting of low quality. For me, the best is the good old Latex: easy to modify, comments, excellent typesetting (looks very good!), easy to include graphic if you wish.
Also there are lots of very good tools to: convert to RTF (latex2rt allows to export result to most word processors), create very clean and compact PDF, create html (several tools).
In spite of all the new promising/fancy tools, I still prefer to keep my resume as a latex file at this time. Changes are real simple too.
If you are imtimitated by learning Latex (requires the IQ of a hamster, or better), then get an existing latex file you like, and add your text in there....
> I have converted my résumé through a sequence of word processors, > including WordPerfect, DeScribe, IBM Works and StarOffice 5.1; at each > stage the export and import has added another layer of cruft. I'm at > the point where I'm ready to through out all of the markup and start > over, unless there is a good way to automatically clean it up. I have > SuSE Linux Professional 9.0, and plan to upgrade it. I'd prefer not > having to install any additional tools, and I'd prefer a format that I > can tweak with a text editor, e.g., DocBook, XHTML.
> So My question is what tools are available in SuSE to automate the > cleanup. Among the things that might be of use:
> XSLT to remove all font attributes.
> Style sheets designed for use with résumés
> Tools to reflow text with each HTML tag on a separate line.
> Tools to add missing end tags to existing HTML so that I can use > an XML editor.
> A related question is whether OpenOffice has any facilities to do a > mass change to markup in an existing StarOfffice document?
> Thanks for any guidance or suggestions that you can provide.
> My inclination would be to drop the accents because, as you say, confusion > with the unaccented verb form is unlikely and because this appears to be > the commonly accepted spelling anyway. > A quick Google for hints on resume writing soon confirmed that - I > couldn't find one promoting the correct dictionary spelling.
> I think I might also tend to think "uh-oh - pedant alert!" if I received > an application for a job using the accented form. ;)
<nitpicking> Which Google? (just curious) Because it has different language interfaces [take a gander at 'ElmerFudd' for a good chuckle] </nitpicking>
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Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: > In article <10csp65he4lv...@corp.supernews.com>, John Wingate wrote: >> Grant Edwards <gra...@visi.com> wrote: >>> In article <40ce2503$5$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net>, Shmuel >>> (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>>>> Have you ever applied for a job? A sloppy looking résumé can hurt >>>> your prospects.
>>> As could misspelling resumé.
>> Indeed. But Shmuel knows how to spell it correctly. You apparently >> don't.
> Damn. You're right. I should have known better than criticize > somebody else's spelling.
According to the dictionaries I have access to, resumé is allowed as an alternative spelling of résumé, at least in American English. Which is funny, considering that the word's origin is the verb "résumer". I like the "reumes" spelling of the subject best, though :-)
To avoid misspelling your résumé, write a CV instead.
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:03:41 -0400, Yvan Loranger wrote: > <nitpicking>
Er, yes indeed. I'm not in the habit of writing or reading for all available languages, just my mother tongue. Therefore things tend to be viewed from there.
> Don't forget, this newsgroup makes it 'round the world, so if I ever > send you an application ... :)
Yes I know, although I'd never request a CV via a newsgroup. ;)
I assume that if you had a language-based reason for including the accents it would be self-evident from your personal information contained in the CV. My throw-away comment about pedantry was just that, a throw-away comment and hardly a rule set in stone.
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