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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 15 2005, 9:46 pm
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.suse
From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:46:41 -0500
Local: Thurs, Sep 15 2005 9:46 pm
Subject: lost network
A lightning strike took out my cable modem and the linksys router.  I
went out to the store and replaced both.  If I boot to windows xp it
works fine.  (the router is configured exactly as the old one was, and
it is the same model.  BEFSR41 Linksys cable/dsl router

But for some reason if I reboot and go into into suse 9.3 (dual boot
computer) I have no net access.  I have tried to use firefox in linux to
go to 192.168.1.1 to try to log into the router but it says failure to
connect.

I'd give more info, but not sure what else to give.
Please help.
Andrew


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Alvin  
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 More options Sep 15 2005, 9:55 pm
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From: Alvin <please@reply_to_the_newsgroup.thanks>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:55:09 GMT
Local: Thurs, Sep 15 2005 9:55 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> I'd give more info, but not sure what else to give.
> Please help.
> Andrew

Perhaps paste the results of executing: /sbin/ifconfig
That will display the IP address info that the router is giving your
computer (maybe).

Alvin


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 12:10 am
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:10:32 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 12:10 am
Subject: Re: lost network

Alvin wrote:
> Andrew wrote:

>>I'd give more info, but not sure what else to give.
>>Please help.
>>Andrew

> Perhaps paste the results of executing: /sbin/ifconfig
> That will display the IP address info that the router is giving your
> computer (maybe).

> Alvin

andrew@p4:~> /sbin/ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:6D:16:98:DE
           inet addr:192.168.1.10  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::203:6dff:fe16:98de/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
           Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
           RX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
           RX bytes:10042 (9.8 Kb)  TX bytes:10042 (9.8 Kb)

andrew@p4:~>


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 12:18 am
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:18:04 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 12:18 am
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> Alvin wrote:

Snip

forgot to mention .. as you can see above, my ip is set on the computer
.. the router doesn't set it .

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Jan Gerrit Kootstra  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 1:07 am
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From: Jan Gerrit Kootstra <jan.ger...@kootstra.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 07:07:27 +0200
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 1:07 am
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew,

Does ping 192.168.1.1 give a response?

Kind Regards,

Jan Gerrit


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 10:35 pm
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:35:22 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 10:35 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

Jan Gerrit Kootstra wrote:
> Andrew wrote:

>> Andrew wrote:

>>> Alvin wrote:

>> Snip

<<Snip>>

> Does ping 192.168.1.1 give a response?

> Kind Regards,

> Jan Gerrit

p4:/home/andrew # ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
 From 192.168.1.10: icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=7 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 192.168.1.10 icmp_seq=8 Destination Host Unreachable

--- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 0 received, +7 errors, 100% packet loss, time 8000ms
, pipe 3
p4:/home/andrew #


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Alvin  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 11:17 pm
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From: Alvin <please@reply_to_the_newsgroup.thanks>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 03:17:05 GMT
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 11:17 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> p4:/home/andrew # ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>  From 192.168.1.10: icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable

Hmmm, what does '/sbin/route -n' give?

You should see something like:

alvin@Desktop:~> /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.5.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
0.0.0.0         192.168.5.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

The important ones are the lines that start with 0.0.0.0 and 192.168.5.0

In your case, replace the 192.168.5.0 with 192.168.1.0

Alvin


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 16 2005, 11:59 pm
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:59:11 -0500
Local: Fri, Sep 16 2005 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

andrew@p4:~> /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination  Gateway       Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use face
192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0       255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0  0.0.0.0       255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0    0.0.0.0       255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
0.0.0.0      192.168.1.1   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

although on the first line it says 192.168.1.0 ?? shouldn't that be
192.168.1.1 ?? or am I wrong?


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Kevin Nathan  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 12:45 am
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.suse
From: Kevin Nathan <knat...@project54.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:45:19 -0700
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 12:45 am
Subject: Re: lost network
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:59:11 -0500

Andrew <ea...@charter.net> wrote:
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination   Gateway   Genmask ...
> 192.168.1.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0 ...

<snip>

> although on the first line it says 192.168.1.0 ?? shouldn't that be
> 192.168.1.1 ?? or am I wrong?

192.168.1.0 is the network, 192.168.1.1 through 192.168.1.254 are
hosts on the network, and 192.168.1.255 is the broadcast address (all
hosts receive this). The network mask ('genmask' in above listing)
controls this.

It can get complicated but is worth reading about, just so you have a
better understanding. :-)

--
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Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- http://www.project54.com/linux/

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The command line is the front line.
Linux 2.6.8-24.18-default
  9:39pm  up 8 days 22:25,  13 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.27, 0.21


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 6:12 pm
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:12:46 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 6:12 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

thank you for the responses. although I still don't have access to my
network.

The ip address for the computer is 192.168.1.10
the gateway is 192.168.1.1
the network mask or genmask is 255.255.255.0

these are what the numbers should be.
any other ideas?


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Alvin  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 6:31 pm
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From: Alvin <please@reply_to_the_newsgroup.thanks>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:31:53 GMT
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> The ip address for the computer is 192.168.1.10
> the gateway is 192.168.1.1
> the network mask or genmask is 255.255.255.0

> these are what the numbers should be.
> any other ideas?

Just for kicks, set your computer to DHCP and restart the network service:

$ sudo /sbin/rcnetwork restart

Then verify that you have an IP address using:

$ /sbin/ifconfig

And finally, verify the routing table:

$ /sbin/route -n

I'm just curious to see if you have external access using DHCP.

Alvin


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 17 2005, 11:43 pm
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:43:04 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 11:43 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

dumb question , how do i set suse 9.3 to DHCP ? I set the ip address and
  and stuff .. when i installed the o/s

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Alvin  
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 More options Sep 18 2005, 7:37 am
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From: Alvin <please@reply_to_the_newsgroup.thanks>
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:37:32 GMT
Local: Sun, Sep 18 2005 7:37 am
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> dumb question , how do i set suse 9.3 to DHCP ? I set the ip address and
>   and stuff .. when i installed the o/s

When in doubt, look at Yast. :)

1. Yast->Network Devices->Network Card
2. Click on Change at the bottom
3. Double click your network card (probably only one choice)
4. Select "Automatic Setup" in the Setup Method section
5. Click the Routing button
6. Erase the entry under Default Gateway
7. Click on "Host Name and Name Server"
8. Put a checkmark in "Update Name Servers and Search List via DHCP"
9. Leave the Host Name and Domain Name what they are. You can select "Change
Host Name via DHCP" if you want, but it's not necessary.
10. Click OK, Next, then Finish

You should be all set for DHCP mode. Then follow the instructions in the
previous post.

Hope this helps,

Alvin


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 More options Sep 19 2005, 11:14 am
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:14:00 -0500
Subject: Re: lost network

ok here is the info that you asked for.

Shutting down network interfaces:
     eth0      device: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet
10/100 (rev 11)
     eth0      configuration: eth-id-00:03:6d:16:98:de                done
Shutting down service network  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . done.
Hint: you may set mandatory devices in /etc/sysconfig/network/config
Setting up network interfaces:
     lo
     lo        IP address: 127.0.0.1/8                                done
     eth0      device: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet
10/100 (rev 11)
     eth0      configuration: eth-id-00:03:6d:16:98:de
     eth0      (DHCP) . . . . . no IP address yet... backgrounding.
     eth0      IP address: 192.168.1.10/24
waiting
Setting up service network  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . done.
andrew@p4:~> /sbin/ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:6D:16:98:DE
           inet addr:192.168.1.10  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::203:6dff:fe16:98de/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:0 errors:53 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
           Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd400

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
           RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
           TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
           RX bytes:5732 (5.5 Kb)  TX bytes:5732 (5.5 Kb)

andrew@p4:~> /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
andrew@p4:~>


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 19 2005, 11:17 am
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:17:57 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 19 2005 11:17 am
Subject: Re: lost network

forgot to add, i did set it to dhcp mode

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 More options Sep 19 2005, 9:48 pm
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:48:08 -0500
Local: Mon, Sep 19 2005 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: lost network

Andrew wrote:
> Andrew wrote:

>> Alvin wrote:

>>> Andrew wrote:
<snip>

> forgot to add, i did set it to dhcp mode

*grumble* helps if i don't try to post and then run to work.

I should have added.  I don't have net access yet. The output in the
previous post was posted in hopes that someone can determine what is wrong.


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Andrew  
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 More options Sep 24 2005, 1:03 am
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From: Andrew <ea...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:03:21 -0500
Local: Sat, Sep 24 2005 1:03 am
Subject: re: lost network
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_thread/thread...

I created the above listed post and thanks to Kevin Nathans and Alvins
help , they gave me several ideas on getting my computer to access the
LAN and the internet.  But never quite got there.

I am creating this new thread because I fear that if I post to that
thread no one would see it.

What I have done since my last post is :
set suse 9.3 linux to DHCP and directly hooked the computer into the
cable modem, this way I could try see if it was a problem with the
router or not.  but sadly when I typed in
sudo /sbin/rcnetwork restart
it failed to get a new IP address

Here is a piece of information that wasn't posted before. (in the
previous thread) that may be of interest.

When the lightning took out the cable modem and the router, I obviously
had to replace them.  When I first booted into windows xp I had to go to
the control panel into the network connections and tell windows xp to
"repair this connection", before I had it repair the connection I had no
net access.. afterwards I did.  I made no changes in terms of ip address
or dns entry or gateway.  I think that the same needs to be done in
linux.   I just have no clue as to what I would need to do to get it done.

Any thoughts , suggestions, ideas?
I do appreciate any help
Andrew


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Joe Rodriguez  
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 More options Oct 8 2005, 6:48 pm
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From: Joe Rodriguez <joserh...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 18:48:54 -0400
Local: Sat, Oct 8 2005 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: lost network
What is the address of your Linksys router?  Did you set it up to be a DHCP
server as well?  It could be that the router is maybe 192.168.0.1?  There
was a model that used that address as default.

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