It occurs to me that he is very probably English, and very well educated,
as his grammar in his post is very well enunciated. I would picture him at
about 35-40 years old, as I feel he comes across that way in his posts.
I think it would be nice for him to come out of his little shell, and tell
us all a little bit about himself, including his real christian name. Most
of us regular posters, who have managed to earn ourselves just that little
bit of respect, have come out of the woods in past postings and revealed
just who is behind the various slack boxes out there.
So, rm, resolution for 2004 - tell us who you are, where (roughly) you
come from, and earn yourself some respect. Offer up some useful advice to
newbies, and try to be a kind and thoughtful person on this group.
Also, at least give out an honest mail address, as hiding behind smoke &
mirrors is the only thing that leads me to suspect that you could actually
be a stateside HaX0r script kiddie. I mean, come on, using The California
Dragon Boat Association as a mailing address?
And, finally, rm, Although I respect your one man mission against pgp
users, as I agree they do take up unwarranted amounts of space in posts,
anybody who has the tiniest bit of space in their brains could easily get
their news client not to display it. I just don't let it annoy me, and try
my best to read the actual post.
Have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.
Simon.
--
"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most" - Ozzy Osbourne
Registered Linux User #306035
i think you're quite mistaken. rm does not give a hoot about pgp. he is
looking to annoy people and get attention, and pgp happens to be a way of
doing that.
--
Joost Kremers joostk...@yahoo.com
Slackware doesn't have any quirks. Other distros have quirks. Slackware's
just pure Linux.
> You know, as Christmas comes around, and I look back at the last
> 6 months of posting on this group, I can't help wondering just
> who the fsck rm is.
I would think you would have better things to do.
> It occurs to me that he is very probably English, and very well
> educated, as his grammar in his post is very well enunciated. I
> would picture him at about 35-40 years old, as I feel he comes
> across that way in his posts.
I have a college diploma and two degrees, including one in Computer
Science. And I am Canadian. I was born in 1953. My first
slackware install was in 1994 or 1995. I can't remember the
version.
> I think it would be nice for him to come out of his little shell,
> and tell us all a little bit about himself, including his real
> christian name. Most of us regular posters, who have managed to
> earn ourselves just that little bit of respect, have come out of
> the woods in past postings and revealed just who is behind the
> various slack boxes out there.
My real name is not important as it will not change anyone's
opinion about me one way or the other. In any case, my real name
has been out there for more than a decade.
But I will tell you what I will do. I will refrain from bitching
about pgp over the Christmas holidays. Hopefully, we will see an
abatement of the unwarranted use of pgp over that period.
There is absolutely no excuse for the proliferation of inline pgp
in this ng. It doesn't exist in other groups and it seems to have
caught on here as some sort of faddish anal gadget available to
those silly enough to use slrn.
The reason pgp is not widespread is because there is no reason for
it. It is ugly, makes posts hard to read and harder to edit in
replies, and nstes bandwidth and nobody likes it. The use of
inline pgp is a violation of usenet netiquette standards. It does
not in any way prevent "forgeries" and the only freedom it curtails
is that of the pgp user. The fact that many of you object to my
complaints about it does not change the fact that pgp is
unwarranted, hugely unpopular, and a pain in the ass.
I will withold my legitimate complaint about pgp and, in good
faith, I hope to see a commensurate reduction in the unwarranted,
netiquette violating, inlining of pgp.
We'll see who acts responsibly in the future.
cordially, as always,
rm
Then you must be working very hard at giving Canadians
a bad name.
Here's a hint.
Stop working at it...
RM is a bit of a hero, isn't he? Fighting the selfish delinquents who think
that they are exempt from the rules that make the Usenet the incredible
resource it is.
AC
in the end, however, it's not the rules that make usenet to a great
resource, but people. and in this NG, the people that use pgp-signing
contribute a lot more to making it a valuable resource than rm with his
incessant whining.
> AC
your name isn't really stephen, is it now, alan?
it *is* true.
> But whatever contribution these
> people do make does not warrant or justify violating accepted
> standards of usenet netiquette.
and whether they are or are not violating accepted standards of usenet
netiquette, it does not justify *you* violating accepted standards of
usenet netiquette. two wrongs don't make a right. at least the pgp-signers
in this group have the common courtesy to not change their From: header
every week, which means that those who do not wish to see their bandwidth
"wasted" by pgp-sigs can killfile them easily. you, on the other hand, make
it very difficult for those who do not wish to be bothered by all your
complaints to killfile you because of your continuous morphing. not
morphing is *also* an "accepted usenet standard".
> it does not justify *you* violating accepted standards of
> usenet netiquette. two wrongs don't make a right. at least the pgp-signers
> in this group have the common courtesy to not change their From: header
> every week
Just kill him on his DSL IP.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.93.138.165
X-Complaints-To: ab...@sympatico.ca
--
My real address is crn (at) netunix (dot) com
WARNING all messages containing attachments or html will be silently
deleted. Send only plain text.
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 12:49 pm in alt.os.linux.slackware Joost
> Kremers wrote:
>
>> it does not justify *you* violating accepted standards of
>> usenet netiquette. two wrongs don't make a right. at least the pgp-signers
>> in this group have the common courtesy to not change their From: header
>> every week
>
> Just kill him on his DSL IP.
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.93.138.165
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@sympatico.ca
I would also suggest that when you send to sympatico that you:
1) Quote the relevant section of their ToS/AUP policy that states
no harassing users or groups.
2) Either one (or both if you're inclined):
a) Include a series of his posts showing the harassing nature of
his posts.
b) A series of google links that point to said articles.
3) Ask that they (sympatico) enforce their policy.
Jim
btw - This is the purpose of a charter/policy. When enclosed with
an abuse complaint it helps them understand the violation and take
action.
Chris Newport <m...@see-my-sig.invalid> is thought to
have typed the following text on 2003-12-24:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 12:49 pm in alt.os.linux.slackware Joost
> Kremers wrote:
>
> Just kill him on his DSL IP.
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.93.138.165
No such luck, his IP is assigned through DHCP.
- --
Bartosz Oudekerk
Play Rogue, visit exotic locations, meet strange creatures
and kill them.
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> Chris Newport <m...@see-my-sig.invalid> is thought to
> have typed the following text on 2003-12-24:
>
>> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 12:49 pm in alt.os.linux.slackware Joost
>> Kremers wrote:
>>
>> Just kill him on his DSL IP.
>>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.93.138.165
>
> No such luck, his IP is assigned through DHCP.
Are you sure ?, it does not appear to have changed recently.
If in doubt just kill on the whole class C subnet 65.93.138.0/24
I would suggust that anyone that cares to also forward this
post to: abuse@sympatico
Posted and mailed to ab...@sympatico.ca
> Jim <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> > Just kill him on his DSL IP.
>> >
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.93.138.165
>
> That changes all the time.
>
>> > X-Complaints-To: ab...@sympatico.ca
>
> What do you think the trolls have been doing all along?
>
>> I would also suggest that when you send to sympatico that you:
>
>> 1) Quote the relevant section of their ToS/AUP policy that states
>> no harassing users or groups.
>
> Harassment?
From the Random House Dictionary:
har-ass 1) to trouble by repeated attacks, incursions, etc. 2) to
disturb persistently
Now that we know what harassment is --
>
>> 2) Either one (or both if you're inclined):
>> a) Include a series of his posts showing the harassing nature of
>> his posts.
>
> Could you show us just one post that is "harassing?"
>
> No, I didn't think so. Why not just send them this post and call
> it harassing?
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: A little OT Pinky and the Brain fortunes
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
References: <Xns945AD8BCB1EB...@65.32.1.6> <0bWdnUs1mry...@speakeasy.net> <bx%Fb.4392$tQ6....@wards.force9.net> <slrnbuhiit....@lappie.unreachablehost.net>
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Bartosz Oudekerk <bartosz@see_my_gnupg-key.com> wrote:
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pgp trash troll delete
> It won't work out of the box, but try running this command: '$
> strfile -c # pinkysigs.txt pinkysigs.dat', and the resulting dat
> file will work.
Will this remove the unwarranted inline use of pgp? Please use pgp
responsibly in the future, either by placing it in your headers or
by using a mime attachment.
Thank you.
cordially, as always,
rm
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: Installed Slackware 9.1 (intel, and kernel 2.4.22) no sound!
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
References: <AlLFb.1793$NZ1....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net> <slrnbuf0rc....@lappie.unreachablehost.net> <lUMFb.4773$d%1.10...@news20.bellglobal.com> <pan.2003.12.23....@da2fy1.roolz> <163Gb.4521$tQ6....@wards.force9.net>
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Billy Watt <news...@cjwatt.plus.net> wrote:
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pgp trash troll delete
Could you please refrain from the unwarranted and inline use of
pgp? It violates usenet standards, not to mention this ng's
policy.
Thank you.
cordially, as always,
rm
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: 9.1, 2.6, alsa & ut2003
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
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Shriver <news...@only.com> wrote:
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> If you do use arts (usually started with KDE), You may be able to
> run 'artsdsp <UT command>' to get sound out of Unreal Tournament.
> If that works it would mean not having to disable artsd everytime
> you wanted to play.
Perhaps you could show some respect for other posters by disabling
you inline pgp apparatus?
Thank you.
cordially, as always,
rm
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: SATA install problem
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
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AthlonRob <junk...@axpr.net> wrote:
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pgp trash troll delete
> AFAIK, it uses an onboard speaker. If not, headphones and
> computer speakers are very cheap.
Perhaps if pgp wasn't free you would be a bit more careful about
how you use it. Not only is your use of pgp unwarranted, but it
violates usenet standards of netiquette. Please show some respect
for the other posters in this ng by refraining from the unwarranted
use of inline pgp.
Thank you.
cordially, as always,
rm
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: A few questions......
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
References: <379178f1.03122...@posting.google.com> <3fe84f4c$0$386$afc3...@news.easynet.co.uk> <slrnbugksc.c7...@j.kremers4.news.arnhem.chello.nl> <3fe85cb4$0$13901$afc3...@news.easynet.co.uk> <slrnbugnf6.c7...@j.kremers4.news.arnhem.chello.nl> <3fe85f42$0$13879$afc3...@news.easynet.co.uk> <slrnbugns0.c7...@j.kremers4.news.arnhem.chello.nl> <3fe87323$0$390$afc3...@news.easynet.co.uk> <qt2asb...@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us>
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Keith Keller <kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
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> On 2003-12-23, Molchun <mol...@REMOVEbluerealm.co.uk> wrote:
> > No. It doesn't mean that! Look closer. There isn't a proper
> > partition table there. There isn't a single partition there.
> I don't believe you actually need a partition table in order to
> use the disk with linux, and possibly not with Windows, either.
You certainly don't need pgp either. And yet you continue to
inline pgp even though it violates usenet standards of netiquette.
cordially, as always,
rm
Sender: <r...@cdab.cdab.org>
From: cd...@cdba.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.0 + ACPI Suspend yields blank screen at resume.
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
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AthlonRob <junk...@axpr.net> wrote:
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> On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:08:09 -0500, tkrin <tkrin@_excite_._com> wrote:
> > Hello there all. The system is a Dell Latitude C840. Subject
> > says it all
> FWIW, that's what happens to me with my Inspiron 2650.
Perhaps the blank screen is the result of inlined pgp? As you
know, inline pgp violates usenet standards of netiquette. Could
you please show some respect for the rest of us by including pgp in
your headers or in a mime attachment?
Thank you.
cordially, as always,
rm
-----------------------------------
ad infinitum
Chris Newport <m...@see-my-sig.invalid> is thought to have
typed the following text on 2003-12-24:
> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 4:30 pm in alt.os.linux.slackware Bartosz
> Oudekerk wrote:
>> No such luck, his IP is assigned through DHCP.
>
> Are you sure ?, it does not appear to have changed recently.
I'm sure, I had him killfiled by that header, and it only lasted for 2
or 3 days, I don't know how long it takes for his lease to expire.
> If in doubt just kill on the whole class C subnet 65.93.138.0/24
>
I thought about that, but don't like the idea, some other slacker might
be using the same ISP, AFAIK no-one(sp?) is currently, but that might
change.
Plus, I have him KF ATM, I just thought I'd just point out the flaw in
the above method.
- --
Bartosz Oudekerk
Play Rogue, visit exotic locations, meet strange creatures
and kill them.
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:55:56 GMT, Jim <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Message-ID: <Ck4Gb.7567$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
> Message-ID: <8j4Gb.7565$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
> Message-ID: <gh4Gb.7562$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
> Message-ID: <7g4Gb.7561$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
> Message-ID: <vc4Gb.7557$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
> Message-ID: <ab4Gb.7556$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
It might be easier for all involved, bandwidth-wise, to just include the
Message ID's. Looking at these six, does anybody else see something
killfileable? :-)
^Message-ID.*4Gb.75.*\$d\%1.16.*news20.bellglobal.com>
I don't really know if I need to escape the dollar sign or percent
symbol, and maybe I should escape the periods, too (although I know with
leafnode, at least, I don't need to)... but y'all get the point. I
wonder how effective this would be... and how much the Message-IDs
change over time?
Merry Christmas...
--
Rob | If not safe,
Email and Jabber: | one can never be free.
athlonrob at axpr dot net |
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AthlonRob <junk...@axpr.net> is thought to have typed
the following text on 2003-12-24:
> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:55:56 GMT, Jim <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> ^Message-ID.*4Gb.75.*\$d\%1.16.*news20.bellglobal.com>
>
> I don't really know if I need to escape the dollar sign or percent
> symbol, and maybe I should escape the periods, too (although I know with
> leafnode, at least, I don't need to)... but y'all get the point. I
Heh, that's my method too, 'if you're not sure, escape it'
> wonder how effective this would be... and how much the Message-IDs
> change over time?
>
I'm not sure, but I did compare a few(3-4) of them a while back, and
the only pattern I noticed, was after the '@' sign, so either I was
totally blind, or they did change, too bad I don't have that file lying
around anymore. Since there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with my
eye-sight otherwise, I'd guess they changed somewhere, for the better
I'd guess now that there is at least a KFable pattern.
- --
Bartosz Oudekerk
Play Rogue, visit exotic locations, meet strange creatures
and kill them.
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> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:55:56 GMT, Jim <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Message-ID: <Ck4Gb.7567$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>> Message-ID: <8j4Gb.7565$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>> Message-ID: <gh4Gb.7562$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>> Message-ID: <7g4Gb.7561$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>> Message-ID: <vc4Gb.7557$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>> Message-ID: <ab4Gb.7556$d%1.16...@news20.bellglobal.com>
>
> It might be easier for all involved, bandwidth-wise, to just include the
> Message ID's.
While I agree bandwidth would have been saved, abuse desks are
swamped with reports. The entire articles were placed in the post
as it was also mailed, thus saving the abuse desk personal the
task of looking up each reference.
As an aside, I have been asked by abuse desks to not include links
as forgery is an issue. This way they can see the copied material
and look it up in google themselves to verify content.
Jim
On 2003-12-24, Stephen Tauphaus <steph...@entercom.com> wrote:
>
> RM is a bit of a hero, isn't he? Fighting the selfish delinquents who think
> that they are exempt from the rules that make the Usenet the incredible
> resource it is.
Like the rules against morphing to avoid killfiles, Alan?
So, let me get this straight, Alan: it's okay for someone to stalk rm,
following up each and every post he makes with something like:
"Doesn't your constant morphing and use of someone else's existing
domain interfere with your complaints about pgp? We request that you
show respect for the newsgroup in the future."
I guess that's the kind of newsgroup two (or one?) trolls would want.
- --keith
- --
kkeller...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/cgi-bin/fom
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> You know, as Christmas comes around, and I look back at the last 6 months
> of posting on this group, I can't help wondering just who the fsck rm is.
It is hard to believe, but this was a question over on uk.comp.os.linux
too, and someone offered the following id. which I seem to recall was
suggested recently in this group.
Roger Maynard AKA Realto Margarino AKA Rance Mullininks etc. Scourge of
rec.sport.baseball for over 10 years.
Not that this tells us who he REALLY!! is of course.
Glyn
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> Bonzodog <bonz...@ntlworld.com> writes:
>
>> You know, as Christmas comes around, and I look back at the last 6 months
>> of posting on this group, I can't help wondering just who the fsck rm is.
>
> It is hard to believe, but this was a question over on uk.comp.os.linux
> too, and someone offered the following id. which I seem to recall was
> suggested recently in this group.
>
> Roger Maynard AKA Realto Margarino AKA Rance Mullininks etc. Scourge of
> rec.sport.baseball for over 10 years.
>
> Not that this tells us who he REALLY!! is of course.
OK - there must be better things to do on Christmas Eve (waiting for Mass
later!) - but I did a little further searching
Try
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/theo-3/data
/20_newsgroup/rec.sport.baseball/104860
Tchah - its Christmas, let me make you a gift of the whole thing ...
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In article <1993Apr20....@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
may...@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1993Apr20....@cs.cornell.edu> ted...@cs.cornell.edu (Edward
>[Ted] Fischer) writes:
>
>On the contrary. It's statistically impaired, opinionated little assholes
>like yourself, who, while springing up all over the continent like some
>dirty virus, are diligently working at destroying the glory of sport.
>
>cordially, as always, may...@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
> "So many morons...
>rm ...and so little time."
Heheheheh.. Sorry, Roger, I wronged you.. You're not boring ALL
the time.. This one is a classic. 'cordially, as always' HEHEHEHEHHE!
Are you a jerk?
Do people hate you?
Are you no fun at parties?
Well! Come to the ROGER MAYNARD SCHOOL OF CORDIALITY!
We can teach you to be 'cordial' with the best of them! Use
such time honored 'cordiality' techniques as:
1) Calling people assholes!
2) Comparing them to viruses!
For advanced students:
3) Comparing them to DIRTY viruses. What is a DIRTY virus,
and how can you tell it from a clean one? We know,
and here at the ROGER MAYNARD SCHOOL OF CORDIALITY,
we can teach you to know, too!
HEHEHEH.. Thanks, Roger.. This made my evening :-)
Tom
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1993 !!! This man is not easily discouraged ;-)
Peace
<SNIP>
> Roger Maynard
<SNIP>
> Not that this tells us who he REALLY!! is of course.
> Glyn
I have just found a post in that website about Roger Maynard dated 20
April 1993!!
And I quote:
"-Valentine
(No, I'm not going to be cordial. Roger Maynard is a complete and
total dickhead. Send me e-mail if you insist on details.)"
hehe....sound familiar anyone?
It appears you are right, he ravaged rec.sports.baseball for a good 10
years. It appears we have a serial troll on our hands.
Ideas anyone?
Simon
> Roger Maynard
> Glyn
Right, have just spent another 10 minutes digging around google, Have
found a post from rm AS roger maynard, complaining about not being able to
join a mailing list. this one is dated 25 jan 1993. I think we have found
his real name, a rough idea of who he is. He's fluent in french as well.
50 years old, lives (or possibly lived) in Canada. I am going to try
digging through the archives looking for accidental user info left exposed
to the web about him. I know it's him in this earlier post as his mailing
address matches the later troll post. I think laurentian is a
college/university in Canada. I wonder if he actually has a web page up?
nah, too much to hope for.
So rm is Roger Maynard, 50 years old, living in canada. And serial troller.
Simon
> Roger Maynard AKA Realto Margarino AKA Rance Mullininks etc. Scourge of
> rec.sport.baseball for over 10 years.
Probably from Toronto
Real name probably Roger L. Maynard, but he's also used:
Ronald L. Matthews
Reichart L. Mark
Randy Myers
Rupert Murdoch
Rudy Meoli
Roy Mountain
and some non-names like "Realto Margarino"
Despised in rec.sport.baseball
Despised in alt.sports.hockey.nhl.tor-mapleleafs
Despised by the list admin at plaidworks.com, who tries to keep him
unsubscribed despite morphing.
Kicked off the Maple Leafs mailing list for trolling (which he proudly
proclaimed in alt.sports.hockey.nhl.tor-mapleleafs on 11/29/03 in a thread
that otherwise died in 1997)
Who is he really? Who the fsck cares? He's persistent as hell, but
eventually nature _will_ take its course, and it seems highly unlikely that
the genes have been passed on.
--
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:40:26 +0000, Bonzodog <bonz...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> So rm is Roger Maynard, 50 years old, living in canada. And serial troller.
AFAIK, he's also the owner of justlinux.ca.
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> On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 22:40:26 +0000, Bonzodog <bonz...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> So rm is Roger Maynard, 50 years old, living in canada. And serial
>> troller.
>
> AFAIK, he's also the owner of justlinux.ca.
>
crn@phobos:~$ whois justlinux.ca
Status: EXIST
Registrar: Tucows.com Co.
Registrar-no: 156
Registrant-no: 482077
Domaine-no: 482077
Subdomain: justlinux.ca
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Description: The education of philistines everywhere.
Admin-Name: Realto Margarino
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: Just Linux
964 College Street
Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
Admin-Phone: 416-538-2192
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: dran...@hotmail.com
Tech-Name: Realto Margarino
Tech-Title:
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The Cambridge Online Dictionary says 'no one' (although I don't see any
reason why it can't be hyphenated). Admittedly, I keep forgetting how
to spell it and end up alternating between 'noone', 'no-one' & 'no
one'.
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> Yeah but you're going to have to find some examples of abuse to
> send!
I could find enough examples of it to choke my local listserver, which
would be a bad thing.
The confusing and downright *wrong* (avoiding use of the"l" word)
"advice" you often give constitutes abuse as far as I'm concerned.
Telling us that "pgp interferes with [varies]" is not only abusive but
could also be deemed to be misleading, and can only be assumed to be
intentionally misleading on your part. If you're going to complain, at
least do it without trying to lead the unsuspecting into making false
assumptions. You devalue your argument when you don't stick to the
facts.
Merry Christmas to all (who celebrate it), and to all a good night.
--
Richard Herbert
Registered Linux user 14329
If there's nothing wrong with me, then ...
there must be something wrong with the Universe!
> I have never given any wrong advice.
Liar!
> A squeaky wheel gets the grease.
You're right. A simple Google search of "pgp interferes with" pulls up
enough examples to prove my point.
I apologize to the list for contributing to the discussion. Point made.
Geez, our own pair of morphing asshats.
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than that" -- The Roadie, in NANAE
I vote for employing low-yield explosives, rectally distributed, as an
agent of retroactive abortion.
Either that, or we can lock him in a room with Lamie (see N.A.N-A.E) and
let the singularity take care of them both.
"Realto Margarino"?
Yanno, it would be a damn shame if a complaint were to be filed for
using fraudulent info in his domain registration.
A damn shame.
Killfiled until March 1st for abusive language.
"Yours"?
Sorry. I don't hang out with juvenile delinquents. I just try to keep them
from ruining the Usenet.
Kindly grow up.
Here's a clue: Any monkey can sling shit.
Not being a monkey, I am not impressed.
(This is not a condemnation of AOLS, but only of a little group of
would-be hoodlums that hang out here.)
AC
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 08:39:41 GMT, Ciro The Spider-Man <usenet-h...@asgardnet.org> wrote:
> I vote for employing low-yield explosives, rectally distributed, as an
> agent of retroactive abortion.
One word:
MOAB
That is all.
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I heard there is yet another bomb.... even worse than the MOAB. It has
his own guiding system. Sort of a release and forget type of thing. It
searches out masses of people autmagicly. Builds up tension like you
never seen before, and in the end you kill yourself.
It is called the "Mother in Law of all Bombs"
merry X-mas (mine just went home ;))
Peter
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:47:40 +0100, Bilbo <bil...@spamnedlinux.nl> wrote:
> It is called the "Mother in Law of all Bombs"
I thought that migh be overkill, no pun intended. :-)
I think use of the MLOAB is as bad as deploying nuclear devices.
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> Description: The education of philistines everywhere.
> Admin-Name: Realto Margarino
> Admin-Title:
> Admin-Postal: Just Linux
> 964 College Street
> Toronto ON N3S 2G5 Canada
> Admin-Phone: 416-538-2192
> Admin-Fax:
> Admin-Mailbox: dran...@hotmail.com
<SNIP>
Thank you.
>
> And, finally, rm, Although I respect your one man mission against pgp
> users, as I agree they do take up unwarranted amounts of space in posts,
> anybody who has the tiniest bit of space in their brains could easily get
> their news client not to display it. I just don't let it annoy me, and try
> my best to read the actual post.
>
> Have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone.
>
> Simon.
>
I don't care who he is. He's nothing but a bitch. Filtering or just
ignoring his nonsense is a trivial matter.
DB
>
> Not being a monkey, I am not impressed.
We noticed you quite easily "not impressed" :D)