Hans wrote:
> According to my several weeks old rtorrent session 32 bit Slackware is
> still more popular than 64bit. Uploadratio:
> slackware 146x
> slackware64 102x
That's not really surprising to me, since you have to
handcraft multilib support to get some things working.
Mainly that stupid Flash plugin for several Browsers.
(Not sure about Opera or Chromium, but Godzilla for sure)
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Ralph Spitzner wrote: > Hans wrote: >> According to my several weeks old rtorrent session 32 bit Slackware is >> still more popular than 64bit. Uploadratio:
>> slackware 146x
>> slackware64 102x
> That's not really surprising to me, since you have to > handcraft multilib support to get some things working. > Mainly that stupid Flash plugin for several Browsers. > (Not sure about Opera or Chromium, but Godzilla for sure)
I might have thought it was just older hardware. I'm still using a computer that isn't 64bits. I think the faster one that someone intends to give me is 64bit, but I'm not sure I'd bother since I'm not likely to load it up with more RAM.
> Hans wrote:
>> According to my several weeks old rtorrent session 32 bit Slackware is
>> still more popular than 64bit. Uploadratio:
>> slackware 146x
>> slackware64 102x
32 = 35.50x
64 = 26.68x
> That's not really surprising to me, since you have to
> handcraft multilib support to get some things working.
> Mainly that stupid Flash plugin for several Browsers.
> (Not sure about Opera or Chromium, but Godzilla for sure)
Have you tried the 64 bit betas? I've been using the 11.0 beta for a while now and it's fine.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:17:57 +0200, Ralph Spitzner <r...@spitzner.org>
wrote:
>> According to my several weeks old rtorrent session 32 bit Slackware is
>> still more popular than 64bit. Uploadratio:
>> slackware 146x
>> slackware64 102x
>That's not really surprising to me, since you have to
>handcraft multilib support to get some things working.
>Mainly that stupid Flash plugin for several Browsers.
>(Not sure about Opera or Chromium, but Godzilla for sure)
Me either. When 32 bit first became available it was about 2 years
before it became "standard".
I have a 64 bit platform and I'm not even gonna try to load 64 bit
applications and OS's until the platform matures and everything I need
is available in 64 bit.
-- "The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
> I have a 64 bit platform and I'm not even gonna try to load 64 bit > applications and OS's until the platform matures and everything I need > is available in 64 bit.
??????????????? How much you want it to mature? My personal meeting with 64 bit OS is from the '60's - logical circuits for the "Polaris" (born/designed in '50's) - for better life imitation used Gray code on then availably hardware. 32 bits simple work - what else do you want it to do?
> On Sep 12, 3:31 pm, Hans<h...@nl.invalid> wrote:
>> According to my several weeks old rtorrent session 32 bit Slackware is
>> still more popular than 64bit. Uploadratio:
> Perhaps that is because 64 bit slackware is totally useless.
> cordially, as always,
Well some kernel hackers halve agree with you. They are creating something called x32. That is a kernel api to create 64 bit programs with 32bits address space and pointers. They want the calculation power of 64 bit registers, but without the over sized pointers.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Lubiraz Alerano
<comp...@aussiebroadband.com.au> wrote:
>???????????????
>How much you want it to mature?
More than it has now.
-- "The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:55:25 +0200, Hans <h...@nl.invalid> wrote:
>Well some kernel hackers halve agree with you. They are creating >something called x32. That is a kernel api to create 64 bit programs >with 32bits address space and pointers. They want the calculation power >of 64 bit registers, but without the over sized pointers.
Sounds interesting.
-- "The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgement of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:55:25 +0200, Hans<h...@nl.invalid> wrote:
>> Well some kernel hackers halve agree with you. They are creating
>> something called x32. That is a kernel api to create 64 bit programs
>> with 32bits address space and pointers. They want the calculation power
>> of 64 bit registers, but without the over sized pointers.
>>>>> Ron Gibson <rsgib...@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:39:29 -0700 (PDT), Lubiraz Alerano wrote:
[…]
>> How much you want it to mature?
> More than it has now.
It was a long time since I've last used Slackware, but I use
GNU/Linux built for AMD64 for something like three years now,
and, while there were certain issues with some software (mainly
scientific packages), I'd say that it's more or less of the same
quality as the versions built for IA-32 nowadays.
That being said, I'm not interested in what's often called
“desktop” applications. For instance, I use ogg123 and mpg123
instead of, say, AmaroK; Openbox instead of, say, Metacity; and
LaTeX instead of ${whatever}Office.
