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nicolas vigier

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Sep 18, 2006, 9:50:03 PM9/18/06
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Hello !

I think slackware is a pretty good OS. Simple, but working. But the way
it's beeing made is quite amazing for me. It's not easy to understand
who does what, so I have a few questions for thoses of you who know
slackware better than me :

- Who is slackware ? Is there any one else besides Patrick Volkerding ?

- Who makes the decisions ?

- Is there a forum, mailling list, newsgroup or something else that
slackware developers use ? By the way, is there any slackware
developers ?

- Is there any way Patrick Volkerding communicate other than with the
ChangeLog ?

- Is there some sort of a bug tracker, something like bugzilla ? Where
do I report bugs ?

- Who is responsible for the security updates ? Who is secu...@slackware.com ?

Thanks for the answers !

Nicolas

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http://n0x.org/ - bo...@mars-attacks.org

Sylvain Robitaille

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Sep 18, 2006, 10:31:41 PM9/18/06
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Answering only to the best of my knowledge ... corrections from someone
who knows better would be appreciated ...

nicolas vigier wrote:

> - Who is slackware ?

Mainly, it's Patrick Volkerding. Arguably it's also the user community,
but I doubt that this is what you were asking about.

> Is there any one else besides Patrick Volkerding ?

Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the
changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
presently officially associated with Slackware.

> - Who makes the decisions ?

Patrick Volkerding

> - Is there a forum, mailling list, newsgroup or something else that
> slackware developers use ?

Email, I suppose. I've also read that Patrick Volkerding sometimes
frequents IRC, but I have no direct knowledge of this (or which IRC
channel he might use). He has, on very few occasions, posted a message
to this newsgroup, but leaves no indication that he reads messages here.

> By the way, is there any slackware developers ?

Yes: Patrick Volkerding

> - Is there any way Patrick Volkerding communicate other than with the
> ChangeLog ?

See above.

> - Is there some sort of a bug tracker, something like bugzilla ?

Email is likely preferred.

> Where do I report bugs ?

(quoted from the AOLS FAQ)

Contact information for Slackware is listed at:
http://www.slackware.com/contact/

> - Who is responsible for the security updates ?

Patrick Volkerding

> Who is secu...@slackware.com ?

I imagine Patrick Volkerding, though there's some possibility he has
help.

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BlackPanther{k}

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Sep 19, 2006, 7:47:54 AM9/19/06
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

>> Is there any one else besides Patrick Volkerding ?
>
> Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the
> changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
> presently officially associated with Slackware.

and as noted in the ChangeLog, Andrea .. who builds the kernel packages ;)


BP

Sylvain Robitaille

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Sep 19, 2006, 11:00:18 AM9/19/06
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BlackPanther{k} wrote:

> ... as noted in the ChangeLog, Andrea .. who builds the kernel
> packages ;)

I believed that was a contribution rather than official association,
though.

Handover Phist

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Sep 19, 2006, 11:29:41 AM9/19/06
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BlackPanther{k} :

Only when she's awake ;)

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Chris Newport

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Sep 19, 2006, 3:02:27 PM9/19/06
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
> BlackPanther{k} wrote:
>
>
>>... as noted in the ChangeLog, Andrea .. who builds the kernel
>>packages ;)
>
>
> I believed that was a contribution rather than official association,
> though.
>

Patrick is Andrea's worser half.

Thomas Overgaard

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Sep 19, 2006, 3:10:36 PM9/19/06
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Handover Phist wrote :

> Only when she's awake ;)

I think you are confusing Andrea(wife) with Briah Cecilia(daughter).
--
Thomas O.

This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

Grant

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Sep 19, 2006, 4:14:15 PM9/19/06
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:10:36 +0200, Thomas Overgaard <tho...@post2.tele.dk> wrote:

>
>Handover Phist wrote :
>
>> Only when she's awake ;)
>
>I think you are confusing Andrea(wife) with Briah Cecilia(daughter).

Sat Sep 9 14:56:38 CDT 2006
...
[ Andrea was asleep when I noticed these, and I didn't want to find out
what happens when one wakes one's sleeping wife and asks her to start
building kernels, so... ]

Grant.
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+Alan Hicks+

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Sep 19, 2006, 4:23:16 PM9/19/06
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On 2006-09-19, Sylvain Robitaille <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
> Answering only to the best of my knowledge ... corrections from someone
> who knows better would be appreciated ...

Arrrr, then ye'll get ye corrections!

>> - Who is slackware ?
>
> Mainly, it's Patrick Volkerding. Arguably it's also the user community,
> but I doubt that this is what you were asking about.

Who would ask ye "Who is Slackware"? Slackware ain't no one. It's a
linux distribution, not a person! O' course, many people liken it t' a
person.

>> Is there any one else besides Patrick Volkerding ?
>
> Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the
> changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
> presently officially associated with Slackware.

Arrr, the short answer be "None o' ye business". The long answer be
there are a great many people that contribute, but Pat has full say in
t' end results. Wit' that said, he give me all the room I wanted t'
make the second edition o' the slackbook, an' didn't micromanage me an'
me mates.

>> - Who makes the decisions ?
>
> Patrick Volkerding

Arrrr... that be Cap'n Patrick J. Volkerding, Scourge o' the Seven Seas!

>> - Is there a forum, mailling list, newsgroup or something else that
>> slackware developers use ?

The short answer be yes. The long answer be that there be many. Ye'll
see some o' the more well known contributors like Piter Punk on IRC,
an' other's ye'll find here more often. Some are on freenode an'
others on oftc.

> Email, I suppose. I've also read that Patrick Volkerding sometimes
> frequents IRC, but I have no direct knowledge of this (or which IRC
> channel he might use). He has, on very few occasions, posted a message
> to this newsgroup, but leaves no indication that he reads messages here.

Arrrr, e-mail be Pat's preferred way o' communicatin', 'ceptin' the
Changelog o' course. Ye'll rarely see him on IRC, mostly just err a
new release t' yell at the scurvy bilge rats t' get their arses t' work
an' setup the BitTorrents.

-- Cap'n Bloody Hand Hicks

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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Thomas Overgaard

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Sep 19, 2006, 5:21:41 PM9/19/06
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Grant wrote :

> Sat Sep 9 14:56:38 CDT 2006
> ...

Somehow I managed to miss that remark.

Sylvain Robitaille

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Sep 19, 2006, 5:37:50 PM9/19/06
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Chris Newport wrote:

>> I believed that was a contribution rather than official association,
>> though.
>
> Patrick is Andrea's worser half.

Um, ... how do I put this politely? ... I _know_ that. It doesn't mean
that Andrea is officially part of Slackware itself than any others who
have made contributions. If you know otherwise, then great, but I don't
think it's our place to speculate on that. As far as can be found in
any official Slackware documentation, Slackware is Patrick Volkerding,
not Andrea. I'm sure that Patrick's business relationships are much
different than his personal relationships ...

Sylvain Robitaille

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Sep 19, 2006, 5:43:59 PM9/19/06
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+Alan Hicks+ wrote:

> Who would ask ye "Who is Slackware"? Slackware ain't no one. It's a
> linux distribution, not a person!

I believe the spirit of the question was "what person or people are
behind the Linux distribution".

> O' course, many people liken it t' a person.

Rightfully so. Otherwise who gets your credit-card payment when the
next version is released? (for those who have a subscription, or will
purchase a copy)

>> Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the
>> changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
>> presently officially associated with Slackware.
>
> Arrr, the short answer be "None o' ye business".

If that were true, he wouldn't bother giving credit where due in the
changelog.

+Alan Hicks+

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Sep 19, 2006, 8:12:08 PM9/19/06
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On 2006-09-19, Sylvain Robitaille <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

>>> Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the
>>> changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
>>> presently officially associated with Slackware.
>>
>> Arrr, the short answer be "None o' ye business".
>
> If that were true, he wouldn't bother giving credit where due in the
> changelog.

Aye, perhaps we read the question diff'rent. Ye did nae quote the
question, but I read it t' be askin' who be involved with t' business
o' Slackware, not who be actually helpin' from time t' time. Arrr.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Sylvain Robitaille

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Sep 20, 2006, 12:25:57 AM9/20/06
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+Alan Hicks+ wrote:

> Ye did nae quote the question, ...

Of course I did, in the message where I answered the question:

> Is there any one else besides Patrick Volkerding ?

Patrick has accepted contributions from others (as noted in the


changelog), but to the best of my knowledge, he is the only person
presently officially associated with Slackware.

> but I read it t' be askin' who be involved with t' business


> o' Slackware, not who be actually helpin' from time t' time.

I admit to not having read it that way (and I still don't see that ...)

+Alan Hicks+

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Sep 20, 2006, 12:07:27 PM9/20/06
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On 2006-09-20, Sylvain Robitaille <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
> I admit to not having read it that way (and I still don't see that ...)

Just goes to show you how two people can look at the same thing and see
something totally different.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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nicolas vigier

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Sep 21, 2006, 12:43:35 PM9/21/06
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On 2006-09-20, +Alan Hicks+ <al...@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
>
> On 2006-09-20, Sylvain Robitaille <s...@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
>> I admit to not having read it that way (and I still don't see that ...)
>
> Just goes to show you how two people can look at the same thing and see
> something totally different.

And give differents answers :) Thanks for all the answers !

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