Mandriva Guide?
Jim
I Just got mandriva 2008 for my labtop, but as a old school microsoft user,
im a complete noob at unix systems.
Is there some sort of "Mandriva for idiots" guide somewhere, Danish
prefered, but English can do it as well.
Thx in advance.
Jim
Iordani
Why not start with the Starter Guide that comes bundled with Mandriva.
You'll find it in the start menu under Documentation.
Jim
"Iordani" <some...@earth.net> wrote in message
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>:)
Iordani
Right. If you are having problems installing you can ask for help here.
If you do, try to describe your problem exactly and specify hardware etc.
You can also google this group. Many beginner problems are covered in the
archive.
Iordani
And among a lot of sites there is
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Installing_Mandriva_Linux
Jim
comes a loading bar.. about 緩ay in, the graphic part disappears, and it
shows the coding, with a bunch of mount/file missing errors. Below the
errors i can start writing commands (i guess) but as i said, im a unix noob,
so i guessed i was something wrong with the cd, so i tried with another...
couldnt evenboot up, on that one.
To see if it helped i tried with mandrake 10.0, couldnt install that either.
so im guessing there might be some hardware problems.
At the moment im reinstalling windows, to run a check, if it comes out
clean, i dont know what to do
Bit Twister
Have you looked around in the Books section of Install/remove Software.
Up to 2008.0 there is the mandriva-doc-Starter document.
In the 2008.1 release there is
mandriva-doc-Introducin
mandriva-doc-Mastering-Manual <==== I'd suggest this one.
For program xref there is
http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
For specific harder tasks there is http://tldp.org
Example for shell scripting there is http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
If you would like a partial index of files already on your system
here is a script to generate one.
------------- script starts below this line through end of post----------
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#use warning ;
use strict ;
use diagnostics ;
#*****************************************************************************
# Program: create_index.pl - create index.htm of htm*/text files on disk.
#
# Purpose: Quick kludge to read list of html/text files and create
# an index.htm list containing titles for each file opened.
#
# PDF and text files are not parsed for title.
#
# Assumptions:
# User or cron has executed /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron
#
# Install: Save script as create_index.pl
# chmod +x create_index.pl
#
# To run: ./create_index.pl
#
# Output: /tmp/index.htm
#
# Note: Set $testing non-zero to leave work files and you
# set which urls to debug in this file.
# You'll find them at bottom of "locate -i" list.
#
#*****************************************************************************
my ($input_line) = "" ; # line to scan for title
my ($lc_line) = "" ; # lower cased input_line
my ($len) = 0 ; # length of title string
my ($line_num) = 0 ; # line number
my ($list_fn) = "/tmp/index.list" ; # list of file names to parse
my ($out_fn) = "/tmp/index.htm" ; # output index.html file
my ($sample) = 20 ; # sample lines before giving up
my ($sort) = "_.sort" ; # temp sort fn extension
my ($sys_fn) = "/tmp/index.bash" ; # script filename to generate list to parse
my ($testing) = 0 ; # testing flag 0=not 1=testing
my ($title) = 0 ; # title string
my ($tmp_fn) = "" ; # *.htm* file name to scan
my ($t_start) = 0 ; # <title start column
my ($t_stop) = 0 ; # </title title stop column
sub fetch_title ; # get title and save it to $out_fn
sub fetch_title_end ; # find </title if not on same line
#
#***************************************************
#*
#* create the list of *htm* filenames to parse
#*
#***************************************************
open (SYS, ">$sys_fn") or die "Opening $sys_fn $!\n" ;
print SYS "#! /bin/bash\n" ;
print SYS "tput clear\n" ;
print SYS "echo Executing locate from $sys_fn script\n" ;;
print SYS "echo Can take 2 minutes or more \n" ;
print SYS "echo depending on hardware and loaded documentation.\n" ;
print SYS "touch $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "echo \"# Output from create_index.pl \" > $list_fn\n" ;
#***********************************************************
#*
#* The following fetches the oddball docs which do not have a
#* index.htm*. Downside is they also collect pages which
#* are called from index.htm* pages. Upside is you get to
#* see titles of chapters of documents you may not have checked.
#*
#***********************************************************
print SYS "locate -i afterstep.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i share/doc/ | grep -i \"\\.txt\" | grep -v \"\\.p\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i share/doc/ | grep -i \"\\.howto\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i FaxMail.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i reference.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/Maelstrom >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/Mesa >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/TiMidity >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/bind | grep -i \"\\.htm\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/cdialog | grep -i samples >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/chbg | grep -i sample >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/dhcp-client | grep -i \"\\.conf\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/dhcp-common | grep -i \"\\.conf\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/ed- | grep -i posix >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/esound- | grep -i tips >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/fetchmail | grep -i \"\\.html\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/fontconfig | grep -i \"\\.html\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/foomatic-db-engine | grep -i usage >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/foomatic-filters | grep -i usage >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/freeciv-data | grep -i howtoplay >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/freetype- | grep -i \"\\.htm\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/gettext- | grep -i \"AllNames\.html\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/gocr | grep -i gocr.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/gv- | grep -i gv.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/libfreetype | grep -i step | grep \"\\.htm\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i ghttp.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i glib.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i glib_toc.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i gtk_tut.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/libphp_common | grep -i php. >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/libpng | grep -i libpng.txt >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/libpng | grep -i example.c >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/libxclass | grep -i .notes >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/lilo-doc| grep -i QuickInst >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/methane | grep -i info.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/mod_perl-common | grep -i mod_perl | grep -i \"\\.htm\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/mt-st | grep -i stinit.def.examples >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/nmap | grep -i nmap_doc.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl | grep -i cgi_docs.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-CGI | grep -i cgi_docs.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-Expect | grep -i kibitz >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-Expect | grep -i tutorial >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-GTK-Gnome | grep -i test.pl >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-Gtk2 | grep -i examples >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-Gtk2- | grep -i gtk-demo | grep -i \"\\.pl\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-Net | grep -i \"\\.pl\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/perl-SDL | grep -i \"\\.pl\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i sgmlspm.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i sgmlspl.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/playmidi- | grep -i QuickStart >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/postgresql-python | grep -i /tutorial >> $list_fn\n";
print SYS "locate -i doc/ppp | grep -i /sample >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/ppp | grep -i /scripts >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/procmail | grep -i /examples >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/proftpd | grep -i Configuration.html >> $list_fn\n";
print SYS "locate -i pwdb.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/pygtk | grep -i \"\\.py\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/python-imaging | grep -i \"\\.py\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/rsync | grep -i rsync.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/rsync | grep -i rsyncd.conf.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/rxvt | grep -i /rxvtRef.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/rxvt | grep -i rxvt.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i devguide.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i slangdoc.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i cref.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i slang.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i slrn-doc.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/spamassassin | grep -i procmailrc.example >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i Howto-spec-helper >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i sample.sudoers >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc/xchat- | grep -i plugin | grep -i .html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i xfig_man.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i xfig.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i bash.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i bashref.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i grip.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i book1.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i clisp.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i changes.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i doc.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i docs.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i faq.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i glyphs.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i gperf.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i guide.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i gv.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i howto | grep -i .htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i hreads.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i ical.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i impnotes.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i intro.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i icewm.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i jikes.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i kikbd.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i less.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i magick.html >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i man.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i manual.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i ntpd.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i pam.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i part1.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i plot.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i ppp.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i primer.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i pwdb.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i readme.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i setup.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i themes.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i threads.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i status.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i server.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i toc.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i use.htm >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i share/doc/ | grep -i readme | grep -v \".bz\">> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i share/doc/ | grep -i faq | grep -v \"\\.gif\" \\n" ;
print SYS " | grep -v \"\\.xm\" | grep -v \"\\.d\" | grep -v \"\\.smgl\" \\n" ;
print SYS " | grep -v \"\\.m\" | grep -v \"\\.r\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i .pdf >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i index.htm | grep -v \"\~\" | grep -v \"\\.doc\" | grep -v \"\\.bz\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
print SYS "locate -i content | grep -i \"\\.htm\" | grep -v \"\\.x\" \\n" ;
print SYS " | grep -v \"\\.p\" | grep -v \"\\.doc\" | grep -v \"\\.ja\" | grep -v \"\\.ko\" >> $list_fn\n" ;
if ( $testing == 0 )
{
print SYS "sort $list_fn | uniq > $list_fn$sort\n" ;
print SYS "/bin/mv $list_fn$sort $list_fn\n" ;
}
close SYS ;
if ( $testing == 0 )
{
system ("chmod +x $sys_fn" ) ; # set script executable
system ("$sys_fn") ; # generate the htm list
}
else
{
open (LIST, ">$list_fn") or die "Opening $list_fn $!\n" ;
print LIST "/usr/share/ImageMagick-5.5.7/index.html\n" ;
print LIST "/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdevelop/reference/C/EXAMPLES/README.html\n" ;
close LIST ;
}
#
#***************************************************
#*
#* Parse list of file name found in $list_fn
#*
#***************************************************
open (LIST, "<$list_fn") or die "Opening $list_fn $!\n" ;
open (OUT, ">$out_fn") or die "Opening $out_fn $!\n" ;
print OUT "<ul>\n" ; # add start of list html command
print "parsing $list_fn \n" ;
FN: while (<LIST>)
{
chomp ; # kill the line feed char
$tmp_fn = $_ ; # set file name to parse for title
#***************************************************
#*
#* Turn / and period into spaces and split the file name.
#* If file extension is htm* fetch the title
#*
#***************************************************
if (substr ($tmp_fn, 0, 1) eq "#" )
{
goto FN ;
}
if ($tmp_fn =~ /\.htm/i)
{
fetch_title ;
}
else
{
print OUT "<li><A HREF=\"$tmp_fn\">$tmp_fn</A>\n" ;
}
} # end while (<TMP>)
close LIST ;
#***************************************************
#*
#* add html list terminator
#*
#***************************************************
print OUT "</ul>\n" ; # add end of list html command
close OUT ;
if ( $testing == 0 )
{
system ("/bin/rm $list_fn") ;
system ("/bin/rm $sys_fn") ;
}
print "\nTry: mozilla $out_fn & \n" ;
print "\nIf you like it, you might want to save it to something like\n" ;
print "\ncp /tmp/index.htm /local/doc/doc.html\n" ;
#
#***************************************************
#*
#* fetch_title - scan $tmp_fn looking for
#* <title>text string</title
#* or
#* ><title
#* >text string
#* </title
#* title can be upper/lower case.
#*
#***************************************************
sub fetch_title
{
open (TMP, "<$tmp_fn") or die "Opening $tmp_fn $!\n" ;
print "processing ===> $tmp_fn\n" ;
$t_start = 0 ;
$t_stop = 0 ;
$line_num = 0 ;
LINE: while (<TMP>)
{
chomp ; # kill the line feed char
$line_num++ ;
if (length ($_) == 0) # empty lime
{
goto LINE ; # go get another one
}
$input_line = $_ ; # save a copy for parsing
$lc_line = lc ($input_line) ; # lower case the line
$t_start = index ($lc_line, "<title") ;
if ($t_start >= 0) # now hunt for </title>
{
$t_start = $t_start + 7 ; # set end of <title>+1
$t_stop = index ($lc_line, "</title" ) ;
if ($t_stop < 0) # </title not on same line
{
fetch_title_end ;
}
$len = $t_stop - $t_start ; # get length of title string
$title = substr ($input_line, $t_start, $len) ;
if ( $len == 0 )
{
print OUT "<li><A HREF=\"$tmp_fn\">$tmp_fn</A>\n" ;
}
else
{
print OUT "<li><A HREF=\"$tmp_fn\">$title</A>\n" ;
}
$t_start = 0 ;
$t_stop = 0 ;
last ; # break out of while loop
} # end if ($t_start != 0)
if ($line_num > $sample )
{
print OUT "<li><A HREF=\"$tmp_fn\">sample $tmp_fn</A>\n" ;
last ;
}
} # end while (<TMP>)
close TMP ; # close index.htm* file
} # end fetch_title
#
#***************************************************
#*
#* fetch_title_end - scan for </title on separate line.
#*
#* $input_line will be reassembled into
#* <title>text string</title
#* $t_stop will contain column number for </title
#*
#***************************************************
sub fetch_title_end
{
while (<TMP>)
{
chomp ; # kill the line feed char
$input_line = "$input_line$_" ; # append line to last line read
$lc_line = lc ($input_line) ; # lower case linput ine
$t_stop = index ($lc_line, "</title" ) ;
if ($t_stop >= 0) # found </title
{
last ; # break out of while loop
}
} # end while (<TMP>)
} # end fetch_title_end
#*************** end create_index.pl ****************************************
Jim Beard
> Dont know what the exact problem is.. after i choose the language, there
> comes a loading bar.. about 緩ay in, the graphic part disappears, and it
> shows the coding, with a bunch of mount/file missing errors. Below the
> errors i can start writing commands (i guess) but as i said, im a unix noob,
> so i guessed i was something wrong with the cd, so i tried with another...
> couldnt evenboot up, on that one.
First, we need to know the nature of your problem,
in specific detail.
Which version of Mandriva did you attempt to install?
Version 2008.1 is the most recent, and both a One CD
version (demo for try-out) and a Free Version (DVD, or
maybe several CDs) are available on mirrors. Plus, you
can buy packages that include support for a specified
period of time, but I would recommend you hold onto your
kroner until you decide it is what you want.
What is your hardware? This can make a critical
difference in procedures that must be modified for
some systems. The standard install procedure usually
works, but there are exceptions known to exist. We
need to know CPU, type(s) and number of hard disks,
availability of CD writer, DVD reader, floppy drive,
video card and maybe type of monitor, amount of RAM.
I assume your mouse and keyboard are working, so we
do not need to worry about glitches with those....
Cheers!
jim b.
--
UNIX is not user-unfriendly; it merely
expects users to be computer-friendly.
Jim
"Jim Beard" <jim....@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:j02Rj.363$lc6.307@trnddc04...
The Version i got is Mandriva Linux One 2008 Spring - Free Download from
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/free
I got both the ordinary download and the one through torrent. (the torrent
one couldnt be used to up, but might be a burn error from my side)
My Labtop is a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&DISC_MODEL=0&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=16699
upgraded with 256mb xtra ram, but otherwise as it was bought.
I know its a piece of old junk, but so far, it still works.
Jim
Iordani
> The Version i got is Mandriva Linux One 2008 Spring - Free Download from
> http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/free
> I got both the ordinary download and the one through torrent. (the torrent
> one couldnt be used to up, but might be a burn error from my side)
>
> My Labtop is a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712
>
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&DISC_MODEL=0&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=16699
> upgraded with 256mb xtra ram, but otherwise as it was bought.
>
> I know its a piece of old junk, but so far, it still works.
If I have understood things right MD One isn't really meant to be used for
install.
Download the 3 CDs or the DVD for starters. I think these include a lot
more hardware support.
marksouth
> If I have understood things right MD One isn't really meant to be used
> for install.
The install icon on the desktop must be there by accident then.
> Download the 3 CDs or the DVD for starters. I think these include a lot
> more hardware support.
Think or know?
Jim
"marksouth" <m...@really.invalid> wrote in message
news:4814c03a$1...@news.bluewin.ch...
? it would save me alot of unwanted searching :P
Jim Beard
> The Version i got is Mandriva Linux One 2008 Spring - Free Download from
> http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/free
> I got both the ordinary download and the one through torrent. (the torrent
> one couldnt be used to up, but might be a burn error from my side)
Did you check the Mandriva One md5sum? That will be available from
the mirror, usually in the same place as the Mandriva One. Check the
download, and check the CD after burning it.
If you have the hard disk space available, I would recommend
downloading the DVD Free 2008.1. If you do not have a DVD
burner, you can copy the boot iso to a CD, boot from that,
and do a hard disk install. Leave your current system intact
(except for shoving stuff out of the way to create disk
paritions necessary for Linux) and use the computer dual-boot
until you decide if Mandriva alone is for you.
> My Labtop is a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712
> http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&DISC_MODEL=0&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=16699
> upgraded with 256mb xtra ram, but otherwise as it was bought.
Toshiba laptops have a long history of minor incompatibilities
with Mandriva, particularly those with nVidia chipsets on the
video card. Do you know which chipset your video board uses?
You may also need to disable ACPI (or is it APCI ?). I know
nothing about Mandriva on laptops other than what I remember
from reading this forum, so you may wish to search Google
Groups alt.os.linux.mandriva for solutions to similar problems
earlier.
Perhaps others can provide more help. Good luck!
Jim
k. Thx for the help, and your time guys. ill try to find the 3disc version
to begin with. :)
Bit Twister
>>
> Thx, ill do that, you happend to have a link nearby, where i can download it
> ? it would save me alot of unwanted searching :P
Depends one where you are:
http://www.mandrivauser.de/smarturpmi/
to find mirrors
Once you find a handy mirror, look around for something like
pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/official/iso/2008.1/
or pub/linux/mandrivalinux/official/iso/2008.1/
or something else because they might have the mandrivalinux mounted
somewhere else under pub/
Aragorn
> http://www.megaupload.com/dk/?d=ENVUU4QX
Nice girls! A bit young for me, but anyway... :p
--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
marksouth
> Jim wrote:
>
>> My Labtop is a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712
>
> What's a labtop?
A machine that you carry around, and can use on the top of the workbench
in the lab. Duh :-)
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