Gnome and KDE
Zebranet
the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
the percentage of Linux users using each?
TJ
I like KDE, and every Linux user I know more than casually prefers KDE.
As for the population as a whole, YGIAGAM.
TJ
Dan C
> I'm not interested in a debate about the two,
Of course you are, why else ask such a question?
> but I have always wondered
> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
> the percentage of Linux users using each?
Have you ever once done any research on your own? Do you know what Google
is for? Who ties your shoelaces in the morning?
Gnome.
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BlackTopBum
> Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
> the percentage of Linux users using each?
I Googled your [OT] request (Google is your friend) and found nothing to
indicate any "polls". Dunno if such a thing exists or if it much matters.
What matters is that unlike that crap MS turns out, Linux users have
choices - lots of them - when it comes to a GUI. Although, of all the
interfaces in use, KDE & Gnome are to two most popular.
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Blinky the Shark
I have no hard figures, but from my Usenet involvement, it seems like
there's a lot more chatter about KDE than Gnome. From that, my personal
guess is that KDE is more popular. It's closer to the MS Windows idiom,
so it's naturally more familiar to those of us who were used to that, so
it's easy to get comfortable with in a very short time.
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matt_left_coast
Why does it matter? Use the one you like best.
Chris F.A. Johnson
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:18:34 +0000, Zebranet wrote:
>
>> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
>> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
>> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>> the percentage of Linux users using each?
>
> I have no hard figures, but from my Usenet involvement, it seems like
> there's a lot more chatter about KDE than Gnome. From that, my personal
> guess is that KDE is more popular. It's closer to the MS Windows idiom,
> so it's naturally more familiar to those of us who were used to that, so
> it's easy to get comfortable with in a very short time.
And there are many of use who don't use either KDE or Gnome.
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Sandman
> Have you ever once done any research on your own? Do you know what
> Google
> is for? Who ties your shoelaces in the morning?
Like someone else said, it's stretching the bounds of credibility to
have us believe that you're really a Linux supporter. Go back to
kissing Bill Gates' ass, wintroll.
Crashdamage
<cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2006-01-28, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:18:34 +0000, Zebranet wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
>>> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
>>> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>>> the percentage of Linux users using each?
>>
>> I have no hard figures, but from my Usenet involvement, it seems like
>> there's a lot more chatter about KDE than Gnome. From that, my personal
>> guess is that KDE is more popular. It's closer to the MS Windows idiom,
>> so it's naturally more familiar to those of us who were used to that, so
>> it's easy to get comfortable with in a very short time.
> And there are many of use who don't use either KDE or Gnome.
Count me among those. KDE or Gnome are nice for Windoze refugees to get
initiated into Linux in a familiar, Windoze-kinda way, but once I
started getting the hang of Linux a little, found simple window
managers, MC and got used to using some simple CLI commands, it was
clear to me I had no use for either one. And they're just such slow,
buggy hogs compared to a light WM.
I hate destop icons...been using Fluxbox or Ratpoison for years. I can
get a more done quicker and easier with those and text apps than icons
and GUIs for everything. The main reason I switched to Linux was to use
something not just more stable and cheaper than Winshaft, but something
really better, totally different. Using KDE/Gnome was better, but not
all that different. There's nothing much KDE/Gnome does I ever need,
though I do still have Gnome installed as a dependency for some stuff I
use.
To each his own...
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Steve Horsley
I suspect taht it depends on the default desktop for the distro.
With Mandy, I'm sure that KDE is the favourite. But I just looked
on the Ubuntu forums, and they have separate forums for Gnome and
KDE questions. The Gnome forum has around 6 x as many Gnome posts
as KDE posts. Ubuntu uses Gnome by default of course, although
they also do a version called Kubuntu.
Steve
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Both at once if you want to ;)) (along with XFce4, Ratpoison, fvwm,
IceWM, Fluxbox, ... or make your own!).
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Dan C
Oh no! You've found me out! LOL!
Kiss off, idiot. I'm as far from being a wintroll as you can get.
Ruel Smith
I believe that KDE has a huge percent of the marketshare on the home
desktop, but is almost non-existent on the corporate desktop.
John Kloosterman
Hmm.. the reason they have 6 x as many Gnome post could also lead to the
conclusion that 6 x more people have problems with Gnome than with
KDE... ;-)
I prefer KDE, but are also happy to use Gnome or other desktops. For a
lot of people "jumping" from Windows to Linux however, KDE gives a nice
painless transition..
Mike Thomas
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:45:57 +0000, Sandman wrote:
>
>>> Have you ever once done any research on your own? Do you know what
>>> Google is for? Who ties your shoelaces in the morning?
>
>> Like someone else said, it's stretching the bounds of credibility to
>> have us believe that you're really a Linux supporter. Go back to
>> kissing Bill Gates' ass, wintroll.
>
> Oh no! You've found me out! LOL!
> Kiss off, idiot. I'm as far from being a wintroll as you can get.
"Sandman" is right. You're doing exactly what the worst anti-Linux fanatic
would do - abusing newbies and anybody making the tentative steps from
Windows to Linux. You're a Microsoft shill - else why would you be you
trying to damage Linux? I refuse to believe that any genuine Linux
supporter could be as imbecilic to behave the way that you do and still
imagine that he's helping Linux. After all, there *are* limits to how
moronic somebody can be if they can post on Usenet. Go away wintroll.
James Viscosi
Here are a couple of polls from 2004.
Window Managers:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=272101
Desktop Environments:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/t272100.html
Of course, it should be noted that any poll whose respondents
self-select is unscientific.
By the way, I use Fluxbox.
Bigguy
> Zebranet said something like a ...
>
>
>>Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>>the percentage of Linux users using each?
>
>
> I Googled your [OT] request (Google is your friend) and found nothing to
> indicate any "polls". Dunno if such a thing exists or if it much matters.
> What matters is that unlike that crap MS turns out, Linux users have
> choices - lots of them - when it comes to a GUI. Although, of all the
> interfaces in use, KDE & Gnome are to two most popular.
One of the reasons for my question is that I currently an using KDE. I
purchased a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo Model LX300 for work.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2162,CONTENTID=9132
There are a lot of multimedia keys on this unit and I don't use half of
them anyway. My problem is that on the Keyboard there is a "MODE" key
that uses the "F1, F2,etc" Keys as dual purpose, there intended use
along with, print, save, you get the picture. For some reason they chose
to make the "Insert" key part of the Enhanced function Keys, so, in
order to use the insert function you have to press "MODE" and you will
see "Enhanced Keys" appear on the screen. Then when you click the Screen
Lock key it will work like the Insert Key, I hope your still with me.
In Linux the "MODE" Key doesn't work, therefore, I basically don't have
an insert Key when I boot from XP over to Mandriva. This is a real
Bummer when using vi to edit a file. The Keyboard is brand new and other
than this I like it.
I read an article where someone said that they found Gnome recognised
some of their multimedia key, but as of yet I haven't tried it.
Is there another way to "Insert" in the Konsole other than the insert
Key using KDE. Can you program another Key to work as the insert key?
TIA
Bill Mullen
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:07:48 -0500, Chris F.A. Johnson
> <cfajo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2006-01-28, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:18:34 +0000, Zebranet wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
>>>> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
>>>> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>>>> the percentage of Linux users using each?
>>>
>>> I have no hard figures, but from my Usenet involvement, it seems like
>>> there's a lot more chatter about KDE than Gnome. From that, my personal
>>> guess is that KDE is more popular. It's closer to the MS Windows idiom,
>>> so it's naturally more familiar to those of us who were used to that, so
>>> it's easy to get comfortable with in a very short time.
I suspect that merely being MDK/V's default desktop has led to a lot of
the added discussion of KDE over Gnome, as well (here in AOLM, at least).
>> And there are many of use who don't use either KDE or Gnome.
>
> Count me among those. KDE or Gnome are nice for Windoze refugees to get
> initiated into Linux in a familiar, Windoze-kinda way, but once I
> started getting the hang of Linux a little, found simple window
> managers, MC and got used to using some simple CLI commands, it was
> clear to me I had no use for either one. And they're just such slow,
> buggy hogs compared to a light WM.
>
> I hate destop icons...been using Fluxbox or Ratpoison for years. I can
> get a more done quicker and easier with those and text apps than icons
> and GUIs for everything. The main reason I switched to Linux was to use
> something not just more stable and cheaper than Winshaft, but something
> really better, totally different. Using KDE/Gnome was better, but not
> all that different. There's nothing much KDE/Gnome does I ever need,
> though I do still have Gnome installed as a dependency for some stuff I
> use.
>
> To each his own...
Hear, hear! I used to be a Gnome fan at first, and I still fire it up now
and then and recommend it to newer users. Soon I switched over to IceWm; I
still use that every so often when I'm doing remote X from someone else's
Winbox (using Cygwin/X), because I like how it lays its taskbar above the
Wintendo one, and how that lets me switch easily between the two OSes.
When I'm running X locally, my preferred WM these days is Fluxbox. I have
both sets of libraries installed (KDE's and Gnome's), but I find that I
almost never use KDE apps anymore. I also always have Gkrellm running, and
since one can add app launchers to every monitor in it - and if one also
uses the gkrellmlaunch plugin, also add as many more app launchers as one
wants - I've had no need of desktop icons in any of the WMs for years now.
I've always thought that one of the great strengths of the Mandr{ake,iva}
distros was that while KDE has always been the distro default, they have
also always included a full Gnome implementation and several other lighter
WMs in the distro, rather than giving the non-KDE ones short shrift.
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Willem
I do not have such a keyboard but you could try ¨hotkeys¨ (it´s in
contrib). You will have to edit /etc/hotkeys.conf yourself.
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BlackTopBum
> One of the reasons for my question is that I currently an using KDE. I
> purchased a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo Model LX300 for
> work.
>
Hi Bigguy,
Not meaning to appear unkind, but I'm at a loss why your post is in this
thread. Can't help you with your kbd problem other than saying check out
hotkeys. I use an EX 110 combo which has a separate Insert key, but I could
care less about the special function keys.
Bill Mullen
> Bigguy wrote:
>>
>> One of the reasons for my question is that I currently an using KDE. I
>> purchased a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo Model LX300 for
>> work.
>> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2162,CONTENTID=9132
>>
>> There are a lot of multimedia keys on this unit and I don't use half of
>> them anyway. My problem is that on the Keyboard there is a "MODE" key
>> that uses the "F1, F2,etc" Keys as dual purpose, there intended use
>> along with, print, save, you get the picture. For some reason they chose
>> to make the "Insert" key part of the Enhanced function Keys, so, in
>> order to use the insert function you have to press "MODE" and you will
>> see "Enhanced Keys" appear on the screen. Then when you click the Screen
>> Lock key it will work like the Insert Key, I hope your still with me.
>>
>> In Linux the "MODE" Key doesn't work, therefore, I basically don't have
>> an insert Key when I boot from XP over to Mandriva. This is a real
>> Bummer when using vi to edit a file. The Keyboard is brand new and other
>> than this I like it.
>>
>> I read an article where someone said that they found Gnome recognised
>> some of their multimedia key, but as of yet I haven't tried it.
>>
>> Is there another way to "Insert" in the Konsole other than the insert
>> Key using KDE. Can you program another Key to work as the insert key?
>
> I do not have such a keyboard but you could try ¨hotkeys¨ (it´s in
> contrib). You will have to edit /etc/hotkeys.conf yourself.
Also check out the "lineakd" package in contribs, as well as the 3 RPMs of
plugins for it, and the "linekconfig" package that works with it as well.
From what I gather, if your keyboard is one of the types that it supports,
you're in good shape; if not, you may still be able to get some or all of
the keys to do something useful with a bit of configuration effort. I see
from the project's homepage (http://lineak.sourceforge.net) that a number
of different Logitech units are supported, so it does seem promising.
Crashdamage
> When I'm running X locally, my preferred WM these days is Fluxbox. I have
> both sets of libraries installed (KDE's and Gnome's), but I find that I
> almost never use KDE apps anymore.
I don't have KDE installed at all, just QT libraries. The only KDE app
I ever use is ksnapshot, but it will install as a stand-alone app if QT
is there.
> I also always have Gkrellm running, and since one can add app
> launchers to every monitor in it - and if one also uses the
> gkrellmlaunch plugin, also add as many more app launchers as one
> wants - I've had no need of desktop icons in any of the WMs for years
> now.
I installed Gkrellim once a long time ago, but it just annoyned me and I
didn't see much point to it. If I want to launch something in Fluxbox I
have hotkeys setup or I can right-click to bring up my little shorty
custom menu. I run a much simplified form of Fluxbox, (or Ratpoison)
simple means more efficient for me. I like a very simple, clean desktop
and have no use for bells and whistles like Gkrellim taking up space,
sorry. My only concessions to eye-candy are Xplanet running for a
background and stuff like slrn, mutt, MC, etc. running in transparent
color aterms. Hey, ya gotta wow the M$ droids with something.
But like I said, to each his own...
> I've always thought that one of the great strengths of the Mandr{ake,iva}
> distros was that while KDE has always been the distro default, they have
> also always included a full Gnome implementation and several other lighter
> WMs in the distro, rather than giving the non-KDE ones short shrift.
I keep using Mandrake/Mandriva because of the choice of software, urpmi,
community support and because you can run it like anything from Xandros
to Slackware. I'm much more of a Slack-type myself, but point is that
Mandrake has nearly anything available and easily installed, and is very
flexible. Still, I have some stuff installed from non-Mandrake sources,
like Firefox 1.5, Thunderbird 1.5 (for my wife) and OO.org2 because
they're better installed from their own packages, or some like Bastille,
Portsentry, etc. because Mandrake rpms aren't available.
Besides, every time I try another distro like Unbuntu or Arch, whatever,
I just don't see what the big deal is. And by the time I make 'em work
like I want, they'd all be about the same anyway (except MCC is kinda
nice).
Dan C
>> Oh no! You've found me out! LOL!
>> Kiss off, idiot. I'm as far from being a wintroll as you can get.
> "Sandman" is right. You're doing exactly what the worst anti-Linux fanatic
> would do - abusing newbies and anybody making the tentative steps from
> Windows to Linux. You're a Microsoft shill - else why would you be you
> trying to damage Linux?
"Damage Linux"? WTF are you talking about, doofus?
> I refuse to believe that any genuine Linux
> supporter could be as imbecilic to behave the way that you do and still
> imagine that he's helping Linux.
You can refuse to believe anything you want. That only makes you seem
even more stupid. FOAD.
ERACC
I like some of the applications from each. I loathe the whole desktop
with all the bloat and 'doze-ish look/feel of each (especially KDE).
It is fluxbox, Window Maker or enlightenment for me. Currently flux.
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[...]
> In Linux the "MODE" Key doesn't work, therefore, I basically don't have
> an insert Key when I boot from XP over to Mandriva. This is a real
> Bummer when using vi to edit a file. The Keyboard is brand new and other
> than this I like it.
[...]
In vi(m) press the letter "i" to begin Insert mode. The [Esc] key
leaves Insert mode.
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Dave
> I like some of the applications from each. I loathe the whole desktop
> with all the bloat and 'doze-ish look/feel of each (especially KDE).
That feeling gets my vote. :)
> It is fluxbox, Window Maker or enlightenment for me. Currently flux.
>
> Gene (e-mail: gene \a\t eracc \d\o\t com)
It *was* KDE... then Gnome... then KDE again... then WindowMaker.
It's been WindowMaker for ... years since. :)
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Robert M. Riches Jr.
> On 2006-01-28, Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 04:18:34 +0000, Zebranet wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
>>> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
>>> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>>> the percentage of Linux users using each?
>>
>> I have no hard figures, but from my Usenet involvement, it seems like
>> there's a lot more chatter about KDE than Gnome. From that, my personal
>> guess is that KDE is more popular. It's closer to the MS Windows idiom,
>> so it's naturally more familiar to those of us who were used to that, so
>> it's easy to get comfortable with in a very short time.
>
> And there are many of use who don't use either KDE or Gnome.
Put down another tally mark for neither KDE nor Gnome. I
use MWM (from OpenMotif, _not_ from that losing lesstif
absurdity). On MandrX, I have had to compile it from source
and use checkinstall.
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spamt...@verizon.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
Bill Mullen
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:49:59 -0500, Bill Mullen <mo...@lunarhub.com> wrote:
>
>> I also always have Gkrellm running, and since one can add app
>> launchers to every monitor in it - and if one also uses the
>> gkrellmlaunch plugin, also add as many more app launchers as one
>> wants - I've had no need of desktop icons in any of the WMs for years
>> now.
>
> I installed Gkrellim once a long time ago, but it just annoyned me and I
> didn't see much point to it. If I want to launch something in Fluxbox I
> have hotkeys setup or I can right-click to bring up my little shorty
> custom menu. I run a much simplified form of Fluxbox, (or Ratpoison)
> simple means more efficient for me. I like a very simple, clean desktop
> and have no use for bells and whistles like Gkrellim taking up space,
> sorry. My only concessions to eye-candy are Xplanet running for a
> background and stuff like slrn, mutt, MC, etc. running in transparent
> color aterms. Hey, ya gotta wow the M$ droids with something.
> But like I said, to each his own...
Well, I don't find the space used by Gkrellm to be excessive, for what it
adds (monitors, launchers, always-visible volume & XMMS contols, one-click
mounting/unmounting, etc.). I think of it as the "dashboard" for my Linux
system, and use it constantly. Various windows cover it, most of the time.
Funny you should mention Xplanet, though ... :-)
http://www.hubnetworking.net/screenshot.jpg
Taken a few seconds ago; clouds shown are accurate within the last 4 hours.
BlackTopBum
> Funny you should mention Xplanet, though ... :-)
>
> http://www.hubnetworking.net/screenshot.jpg
>
> Taken a few seconds ago; clouds shown are accurate within the last 4
> hours.
That's too cool ! Is it time consuming to set up your WM? Like mucking about
for a day or two with *rc files for a menu as you like it? And, as a
wallpaper junkie (skateboarding images from TWS), who enjoys a new image
switch every 15 minutes, is it possible with FB?
Crashdamage
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:08:41 +0000, Crashdamage wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 12:49:59 -0500, Bill Mullen <mo...@lunarhub.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I also always have Gkrellm running, and since one can add app
>>> launchers to every monitor in it - and if one also uses the
>>> gkrellmlaunch plugin, also add as many more app launchers as one
>>> wants - I've had no need of desktop icons in any of the WMs for years
>>> now.
>>
>> I installed Gkrellim once a long time ago, but it just annoyned me and I
>> didn't see much point to it. If I want to launch something in Fluxbox I
>> have hotkeys setup or I can right-click to bring up my little shorty
>> custom menu. I run a much simplified form of Fluxbox, (or Ratpoison)
>> simple means more efficient for me. I like a very simple, clean desktop
>> and have no use for bells and whistles like Gkrellim taking up space,
>> sorry. My only concessions to eye-candy are Xplanet running for a
>> background and stuff like slrn, mutt, MC, etc. running in transparent
>> color aterms. Hey, ya gotta wow the M$ droids with something.
>> But like I said, to each his own...
> Well, I don't find the space used by Gkrellm to be excessive, for what it
> adds (monitors, launchers, always-visible volume & XMMS contols, one-click
> mounting/unmounting, etc.). I think of it as the "dashboard" for my Linux
> system, and use it constantly. Various windows cover it, most of the time.
Hey, Linux is all about choice...
> Funny you should mention Xplanet, though ... :-)
> http://www.hubnetworking.net/screenshot.jpg
> Taken a few seconds ago; clouds shown are accurate within the last 4 hours.
Nice. I like mine with clouds, but plain, no grid or names. With
various hotkeys, it stays centered over the US or a few other locations
or gives a random shot every 15 min. Xplanet makes a beautiful, always
changing background. I've used it for a couple of years or more and
never get tired of it. Runs totally stable and doesn't use squat for
resources either.
Sig Sauer
Damn, I use GKRellm, but not to that extent, cool screenshot!
Isn't Derry where some of Steven Kings novels took place?
Sig
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Ron Gibson
> I Googled your [OT] request (Google is your friend) and found nothing to
> indicate any "polls". Dunno if such a thing exists or if it much matters.
> What matters is that unlike that crap MS turns out, Linux users have
> choices - lots of them - when it comes to a GUI. Although, of all the
> interfaces in use, KDE & Gnome are to two most popular.
I used to like to play with Enlightenment because it's so weird.
Sandman
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:42:29 +0100, Mike Thomas wrote:
>
>>> Oh no! You've found me out! LOL!
>>> Kiss off, idiot. I'm as far from being a wintroll as you can get.
>
>> "Sandman" is right. You're doing exactly what the worst anti-Linux
>> fanatic would do - abusing newbies and anybody making the tentative
>> steps from Windows to Linux. You're a Microsoft shill - else why
>> would you be you trying to damage Linux?
>
> "Damage Linux"? WTF are you talking about, doofus?
He explained in the very same paragraph. You'd have us believe that you
didn't understand it? Only a doofus would believe *that*, wintroll.
wbarwell
> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always
> wondered the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have
> strengths and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or
> polls taken as to the percentage of Linux users using each?
Several in the past from various organizations.
KDE seems to be most popular, though controversy
follows these claims. I myself use KDE because it
is in many ways richer, and to me, more useful.
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IT'S ALL COMING DOWN!
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Cheerful Charlie
wbarwell
> Zebranet said something like a ...
>
>> Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>> the percentage of Linux users using each?
>
> I Googled your [OT] request (Google is your friend) and found nothing
> to indicate any "polls". Dunno if such a thing exists or if it much
> matters. What matters is that unlike that crap MS turns out, Linux
> users have
> choices - lots of them - when it comes to a GUI. Although, of all the
> interfaces in use, KDE & Gnome are to two most popular.
Not polls, try surveys. Check slashdot archives,
there have been a number of past articles on this.
Last big go around was a few weeks ago, Linus
Torvalds says "use KDE".
wbarwell
This in Linux. Yes, you can do these things.
When you hit a key, it sends out a signal
that has a numerical code. To set what
a given code does, keymaps can be set the
way you like. Man keymaps, and loadkeys to start.
There are hundreds of howtos out there.
http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/funkey/
Dan C
>> "Damage Linux"? WTF are you talking about, doofus?
> He explained in the very same paragraph. You'd have us believe that you
> didn't understand it? Only a doofus would believe *that*, wintroll.
Wintroll. Right.
Bugger off, dingus.
wbarwell
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:40:48 -0600, ERACC wrote:
>
>> I like some of the applications from each. I loathe the whole desktop
>> with all the bloat and 'doze-ish look/feel of each (especially KDE).
>
> That feeling gets my vote. :)
>
>> It is fluxbox, Window Maker or enlightenment for me. Currently flux.
>>
>> Gene (e-mail: gene \a\t eracc \d\o\t com)
>
> It *was* KDE... then Gnome... then KDE again... then WindowMaker.
>
> It's been WindowMaker for ... years since. :)
I started with KDE, tried Gnome, gave up real quick on Gnome,
it simply did not do what I wanted.
I tried a few light weight managers, but I have a large
21" monitior and didn't see a quick way to configure so
these things are readable so gave up quickly on that.
I just don't grok these things and lose interest real
quickly since none of them seem to want to make it easy
to find out how to set them up to be readable on a
large monitor.
I find KDE does most things I want quickly, and
command line does the rest. I like KDE's easy
configurability. I like home/Konquerer far better
than Gnome's way of doing things as far as file
management.
Gnome is still just too primitive. And ugly.
The new enlightment sounds interesting but its still
a beta work in progress.
KDE is about to undergo major changes with
version 4.0 where they promise major bugs
will finally get attention.
Mark South
> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
> the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
> and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
> the percentage of Linux users using each?
It's really the wrong question, as you will see from the answers, which
are all defenses of people's choices or preferences of window manager or
desktop environment. Besides, they may not be doing the same tasks as you
need to.
You can use all of them. Learn what window managers are, learn what a
desktop environment gives you, and lear to use what is most appropriate
for the task you want to accomplish.
For example, if you are doing a lot of image editing with previews and
interfacing with a variety of cameras, you might actually find that Gnome
is quite useful.
On the other hand, if you are administering a bunch of servers via ssh,
you will find twm or fvwm to be most efficient, since all you need is a
bunch of xterms.
Learning to choose the best tool for the job is a whole different question
but it's the start of getting useful answers.
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Peter Vollebregt
> Zebranet decided to enlighten us with his/her wisdom by explaining to us:
>
>
>>I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have always wondered
>>the percentage of people who use either one. I find both have strengths
>>and both weaknesses. Has any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to
>>the percentage of Linux users using each?
>
>
> desktop, but is almost non-existent on the corporate desktop.
Ruel,
Do you have figures for this assumption?
In my wellknown big American IT firm the semi-official Linux desktop is
based on KDE (because gnome was to awkward?). ne of the Dutch firms
using linux on the desktop (For POS systems) is using KDE. These are the
only two i know off......
And apart from this - desktops based on linux are hardly used in
corporations. they use them as servers - preferrably without X.
Peter
jack_the_frugal
wbarwell che ha scritto:
> Zebranet wrote:
>
>> I'm not interested in a debate about the two, but I have
>> always wondered the percentage of people who use either
>> one. I find both have strengths and both weaknesses. Has
>> any stats ever been compiled or polls taken as to the
>> percentage of Linux users using each?
>
>
> Several in the past from various organizations.
> KDE seems to be most popular, though controversy
> follows these claims. I myself use KDE because it
> is in many ways richer, and to me, more useful.
That's my exactly opinion, and I use KDE for the same
reason.