10.1 will not boot into X

[Billy O]

Because my system 9.1 system is basically hosed (RPM database is broken -
posted about this 2 days ago, no replies yet. If you got anything for that,
that would be great!) I decided to try out 10.1. I
installed it on the empty space on my drive, right after my 9.1
partitions. The install went fine, but the boot up didn't. It booted up
the services and such fine, but when afterwards, when the Mandrake Linux
10.1 logo appeared at the bottom right of the blue screen, it just
freezes. I can move the mouse around, but that is about it. I can get into
failsafe mode, but no X graphical stuff.

My setup's a bit different. I have an nVidia Abit Siluro GeForce 4 Ti
4400 card that in 9.1, along with two monitors, I had used them to double the
size of my desktop via YanC. The left monitor appears to have bluish wavy
lines on it, while the one on the right shows the blue screen. I tried
turning off the left monitor, but that didn't help. Tried only having the
left monitor on, and my monitor complained about the screen resolution -
something about 1280x1024 60Hz that it wanted or something similar. My
motherboard is an Abit KR7A-133R, FYI. I tried installing the most
recent nVidia drivers for it, but that didn't seem to affect anything.

Not sure if that is enough info, if you need anything let me know. Thanks.

[AM Christophe]

If you have a CF reader or anything connected on your USB ports, unplug
them.
If it still doesn't work, tell us when your PC does freeze.

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[Reader]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 18:04:48 -0600, Billy O wrote:

> I decided to try out 10.1. I
> installed it on the empty space on my drive, right after my 9.1
> partitions. The install went fine, but the boot up didn't. It booted up
> the services and such fine, but when afterwards, when the Mandrake Linux
> 10.1 logo appeared at the bottom right of the blue screen, it just
> freezes. I can move the mouse around, but that is about it. I can get
> into failsafe mode, but no X graphical stuff.

I had a similar problem in 10.1 (ATI AIW Radeon, Asus CUSL2-C). I thought
the installation was bad so I verified the md5s and reinstalled but got
the same thing again. I discovered that when I disabled 'Boot to
graphical environment' KDE started normally from the command prompt by
typing KDE. I carried on doing that and never did get to the bottom of the
problem.

I've since upgraded to Mandriva 2005LE and booting to KDE with autologin
works normally now.

[Billy O]

Didn't help. I had an old scanner and camera in some USB slots, but it
didn't still wouldn't boot up right. Basically, it hangs on (what looks
like) right before it graphically asks you to enter a login name and
password. The screen's blue with Mandrake Linux 10.1 in the lower
right hand corner. Mouse moves around okay, and I can enter into other
consoles, but after it loads the blue screen it just stops. I suppose
in that case it may not freeze per se, but for all intents and purposes
it does. It just stops. Thanks for the idea though.

[Billy O]

Anyway, I boot into failsafe mode and then enter into run level 3.
After that I did a kde like you said and it came up. Thanks, I can get
in now.

I thought LE might've fixed the problem. I just need to procure some
700MB CDs to try it out.

I'm not sure how to disable the booting to graphical environment. How
do I do that?

Thanks for the help.

[Bit Twister]

On 20 Jun 2005 14:01:47 -0700, Billy O wrote:
>
> I'm not sure how to disable the booting to graphical environment. How
> do I do that?

change id:5:initdefault: to id:3:initdefault: in /etc/inittab

[Unruh]

"Billy O" <thats...@hotmail.com> writes:

In /etc/inittab, change the id:5 line to id:3

>Thanks for the help.

[Unruh]

"Billy O" <thats...@hotmail.com> writes:

So something about either X or kdm is having trouble.
Firstly, get it to bootup without the stupid graphical screen.
Remove the menu-scheme and vga= lines from lilo.conf and rerun lilo.conf.
They while it is hung, try doing
alt-ctrl-F2
This should bring up a console, log on and.
Now do
startx -- :1 2>/tmp/X
See if X starts up or if there are error messagesi in /tmp/X.
If it does not start up, do alt-ctrl-F2 and look in /tmp/X for some error
message
Look in /var/log/messages for error messages.

[Billy O]

Right now I have it booting off of a boot disk, and I don't see any of the
normal files I'd expect with lilo on it. In fact, I don't see anything.

I think I tried something similar to starting from the console earlier.
I tried to just go into another console on that screen, log in, and start
kde. It said something about the server already being active or similar,
then errored out.

I'll see about trying your exact command later. Thanks for the info.

[Billy O]

I am an IDIOT. I knew that. I really, really did. Guess it just didn't...
occur to me at that moment. Sorry about that.

[Blinky the Shark]

Billy O wrote:

Who are you talking to?

http://home.online.no/~shughes/a57998/quote.html#001a

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[Billy O]

> Who are you talking to?

What are you referring to? In my reader it's clear who I'm replying to.
Are you using a reader that's displaying the replies linearly? If so, I
apologize. Kind of used to making replies and stuff this way.

[Blinky the Shark]

Billy O wrote:

>> Who are you talking to?

> What are you referring to? In my reader it's clear who I'm replying
> to.

And one shouldn't have to backtrack up the flippin' *thread* read
context. Pan will quote and attribute. Do that.

> Are you using a reader that's displaying the replies linearly? If so,
> I

Of *course* I'm using threaded view. That has no bearing on quoting for
context.

> apologize. Kind of used to making replies and stuff this way.

Get used to quoting.

[Peter T. Breuer]

Billy O <thats...@pcisys.net> wrote:
>> Who are you talking to?
>
> What are you referring to?

We don't know, because you clipped his quote of whoever it is.

Why did you do that?

> In my reader it's clear who I'm replying to.

Eh? Readers don't show posts if they are not there. Please understand
the medium you are using! This is not email. Posts do not arrive
everywhere in the world, do not arrive in time order, do not remain on
servers for the same length of time, etc. etc. etc. etc.

And moreover, "nobody" can be bothered to check in google for the
archived tree of postings. And posts don't appear in google for about
eight hours either.

> Are you using a reader that's displaying the replies linearly?

I don't know what you mean, but I think you are asking about threading.
If so, most people use a threading newsreader, but that's nothing to do
with the question. I use tin, a threading newsreader, but I jump
straight to one post after another with "tab" and old posts are not
shown, and max 200 posts are retained in any newsgroup, so I wouldn't
know what on earth you were referring to even if I bothered to try and
look.

Quote the relevant line of whatever you are replying to. At least ONE
line!

Otherwise we just see a loony talking to the dark.

> If so, I
> apologize. Kind of used to making replies and stuff this way.

??

Peter