Gnome 2.26 trouble
Johannes Bauer
I always was very happy about the conservative way Gentoo masked
packages and have never experienced any trouble I couldn't solve my
myself (and Google/RTFM). So I was of good hope when I saw that Gnome
2.26.3 was masked stable and decided to run a emerge -uD
world/revdep-rebuild.
Wow, what a mistake.
1. First thing I noticed after restarting the gdm, Keyboard and Mouse
weren't working. The X server log revealed that the xf86-keyboard and
-mouse drivers were of the incorrect version. Reemerging fixed those. I
*really* don't know why this isn't done automatically.
2. So, all the icons are gone, all the settings wrong. Yeah, I switched
from 2.18, so I figured this could happen. Removed ~/.gnome2
~/.gnome2_private ~/.gconf etcetc, restarted the X server - okay,
looking somewhat nice again. Fonts are weird (they look different, no,
it's not my subpixel rendering settings) though and I do not have any
background picture anymore. Hmmm, weird.
3. The mouse cursor always stays a hourglass when on the desktop. Hmmm,
weird.
4. The system is constantly consuming 100% CPU of one of my CPUs. Top
shows gvfsd-trash going totally crazy and a whole freaking bunch of
nautilus zombies. ~/.xsession-errors shows
process 9159: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7f644f3173ed user data
0x86bad0, but no such filter has been added
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
** (nautilus:9161): WARNING **: Failed to initialize hal : (null)
process 9161: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7fd3a37563ed user data
0x8c9a20, but no such filter has been added
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
** (nautilus:9163): WARNING **: Failed to initialize hal : (null)
process 9163: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7f5771b863ed user data
0x86e220, but no such filter has been added
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
** (nautilus:9165): WARNING **: Failed to initialize hal : (null)
process 9165: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7f748e1f93ed user data
0x8ceca0, but no such filter has been added
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
...Too much output, ignoring rest...
This goes on for around
joequad [/home/joe]: wc -l .xsession-errors
4089 .xsession-errors
4000 lines. Swell.
5. Nautilus doesn't work at all. When I try to fire it up:
joequad joe [~]: nautilus
(nautilus:4480): Unique-Bacon-WARNING **: Unable to send message: no
connection to the running instance found (stale named pipe)
Awesome, bacon! I love bacon! WTF?!
6. Restarting Gnome sometimes gives me the message that Gnome terminated
in less than 10 seconds and a backtrace (which I cannot copy and paste
as the X session is terminated immediately again). Haven't seen that
kind of crap in the last 5 years.
7. Thunderbird is not in the Applications menu anymore, great.
8. After restarting, Gnome icons sometimes disappear and reappear to
their own liking (are replaced by a white sheet of paper with a red
cross in them).
All in all - what the hell. I've never been so disappointed by a Gnome
release like this. To me it looks like this thing has not been testes
throughly. Why did it then make it into Gentoo stable? Or am I the only
person experiencing such difficulties?
Regards,
Johannes
--
"Aus starken Potentialen kï¿œnnen starke Erdbeben resultieren; es kï¿œnnen
aber auch kleine entstehen - und "du" wirst es nicht fï¿œr mï¿œglich halten
(!), doch sieh': Es kï¿œnnen dabei auch gar keine Erdbeben resultieren."
-- "Rï¿œdiger Thomas" alias Thomas Schulz in dsa ï¿œber seine "Vorhersagen"
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J.O. Aho
> Hello group,
>
> I always was very happy about the conservative way Gentoo masked
> packages and have never experienced any trouble I couldn't solve my
> myself (and Google/RTFM). So I was of good hope when I saw that Gnome
> 2.26.3 was masked stable and decided to run a emerge -uD
> world/revdep-rebuild.
>
> Wow, what a mistake.
Guess you missed to read the news:
Title Upgrade to gnome 2.26
Author Mart Raudsepp
Posted 2009-10-08
Revision 1
We are pleased to announce the stabilization of gnome-2.26. Users are strongly
encouraged to read the gnome 2.26 Upgrade Guied, to avoid any possible issues
relating to the upgrade, such as Applications menu items disappearing, or
nautilus constantly restarting when it is configured to not handle the desktop.
Please read the gnome 2.26 Upgrade Guide:
http://gnome.gentoo.org/howtos/gnome-2.26-upgrade.xml
> 1. First thing I noticed after restarting the gdm, Keyboard and Mouse
> weren't working. The X server log revealed that the xf86-keyboard and
> -mouse drivers were of the incorrect version. Reemerging fixed those. I
> *really* don't know why this isn't done automatically.
Yes,it's quite badly handled, but thats one of the big drawbacks with modular
Xorg (you wouldn't have had this problem with the monolithic packages).
--
//Aho
Johannes Bauer
> Guess you missed to read the news:
Nope.
> Title Upgrade to gnome 2.26
> Author Mart Raudsepp
> Posted 2009-10-08
> Revision 1
>
> We are pleased to announce the stabilization
Stable is different.
> Please read the gnome 2.26 Upgrade Guide:
> http://gnome.gentoo.org/howtos/gnome-2.26-upgrade.xml
I read those. And I read the bugreport, but my problem is different: I
do have set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop to true, not false.
However, when reading through that again, I noticed that one other
person (#8, Jonathan-Christofer) had the same problem and the solution
#10 did work for me actually.
On the downside, nautilus is still fucked:
joequad joe [~]: nautilus
** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
** (nautilus:21319): WARNING **: Failed to initialize hal : (null)
process 21319: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7f5d01b863ed user
data 0x889c60, but no such filter has been added
D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
DBUS is up and running, by the way. I find nautilus missing from Gnome a
pretty severe restriction. Imagine Firefox without HTTPS support,
Thunderbird without IMAP or Windows without the Explorer. Definitely not
something which is not important.
To complete my rant I can only add that the new "stabilized" Gnome
reminds me that there is an "Unknown" and unresponsive application still
running when I exit the session. How annoying. It can't even tell me a
PID or the process name so I could actually figure out what's wrong, but
just tells me "Unknown Application". What a bunch of crap.
Regards,
Johannes
--
"Aus starken Potentialen können starke Erdbeben resultieren; es können
aber auch kleine entstehen - und "du" wirst es nicht für möglich halten
(!), doch sieh': Es können dabei auch gar keine Erdbeben resultieren."
-- "Rüdiger Thomas" alias Thomas Schulz in dsa über seine "Vorhersagen"
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J.O. Aho
> ** (nautilus:21319): WARNING **: Failed to initialize hal : (null)
>
> process 21319: Attempt to remove filter function 0x7f5d01b863ed user
> data 0x889c60, but no such filter has been added
> D-Bus not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
>
> DBUS is up and running, by the way. I find nautilus missing from Gnome a
> pretty severe restriction. Imagine Firefox without HTTPS support,
> Thunderbird without IMAP or Windows without the Explorer. Definitely not
> something which is not important.
Just a stupid question, what about hald? does it run? it feels like that one
would be needed too.
> To complete my rant I can only add that the new "stabilized" Gnome
> reminds me that there is an "Unknown" and unresponsive application still
> running when I exit the session. How annoying. It can't even tell me a
> PID or the process name so I could actually figure out what's wrong, but
> just tells me "Unknown Application". What a bunch of crap.
I have to say I abounded the gnome2 early on and sadly it seems that the kde4
has got hubris too.
--
//Aho