Cable Box Options?

[char...@email.com]

A Question:

I have the Comcast Triple play package, and the Cable Box with my
Hi_Def TV will only record 2 programs at one time, and when recording
2, I cannot view other channels. I heard about the cable boxes they
have that will record 4 programs and you can still watch other
channels when recording. I looked at their website trying to review
those, but it was very confusing. Which would be the best box to look
at for my options?

Thanks for any insights and/or pointers.
charliec

[Andrew Rossmann]

In article <umslp8taqqeuvtuje...@4ax.com>,
char...@email.com says...

> I have the Comcast Triple play package, and the Cable Box with my
> Hi_Def TV will only record 2 programs at one time, and when recording
> 2, I cannot view other channels. I heard about the cable boxes they
> have that will record 4 programs and you can still watch other
> channels when recording. I looked at their website trying to review
> those, but it was very confusing. Which would be the best box to look
> at for my options?

In some areas, there are X1 boxes available. They run different software
and are available in limited areas. You can check the Comcast forums at
http://forums.comcast.net/comcastsupport/
to see the issues with them (there are some nasty bugs), and if it's
available in your area.

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[char...@email.com]

>On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:10:55 -0500, Andrew Rossmann <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <umslp8taqqeuvtuje...@4ax.com>,
>char...@email.com says...
>> I have the Comcast Triple play package, and the Cable Box with my
>> Hi_Def TV will only record 2 programs at one time, and when recording
>> 2, I cannot view other channels. I heard about the cable boxes they
>> have that will record 4 programs and you can still watch other
>> channels when recording. I looked at their website trying to review
>> those, but it was very confusing. Which would be the best box to look
>> at for my options?
>
>In some areas, there are X1 boxes available. They run different software
>and are available in limited areas. You can check the Comcast forums at
>http://forums.comcast.net/comcastsupport/
>to see the issues with them (there are some nasty bugs), and if it's
>available in your area.

Thanks so much, Andrew, for your response. I will look at that forum
and see what I can find. I'm in San Francisco, you have any knowledge
of what is available there?

Thanks again

[- Bobb -]

search Google for

TIVO boxes - Comcast - cablecard.
or
comcast tivo dvr

You buy your Tivo box and rent/insert a "Comcast Cablecard" into the Tivo
box.



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[Barry Margolin]

In article <ko8phf$gqm$1...@dont-email.me>, "- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123>
wrote:

> search Google for
>
> TIVO boxes - Comcast - cablecard.
> or
> comcast tivo dvr
>
> You buy your Tivo box and rent/insert a "Comcast Cablecard" into the Tivo
> box.

Caveat: You can't access On Demand from a TiVo.

>
>
>
> <char...@email.com> wrote in message
> news:umslp8taqqeuvtuje...@4ax.com...
> >A Question:
> >
> > I have the Comcast Triple play package, and the Cable Box with my
> > Hi_Def TV will only record 2 programs at one time, and when recording
> > 2, I cannot view other channels. I heard about the cable boxes they
> > have that will record 4 programs and you can still watch other
> > channels when recording. I looked at their website trying to review
> > those, but it was very confusing. Which would be the best box to look
> > at for my options?
> >
> > Thanks for any insights and/or pointers.
> > charliec

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

[cable...@comcast.net]

On Thu, 30 May 2013 22:48:19 -0400, Barry Margolin
<bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>In article <ko8phf$gqm$1...@dont-email.me>, "- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123>
>wrote:
>
>> search Google for
>>
>> TIVO boxes - Comcast - cablecard.
>> or
>> comcast tivo dvr
>>
>> You buy your Tivo box and rent/insert a "Comcast Cablecard" into the Tivo
>> box.
>
>Caveat: You can't access On Demand from a TiVo.
>

Says who? I have On Demand on my Tivo..

Can't get PPV events but on demand is there.

[Barry Margolin]

In article <gebgq8hlpci8ti4k7...@4ax.com>,

This is the first I'd heard that CableCard allows access to interactive
services. This was the promise of Tru2Way, but I thought that never
really got off the ground.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>cable...@comcast.net wrote:

>>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>"- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123> wrote:

>>>>search Google for

>>>>TIVO boxes - Comcast - cablecard.
>>>>or
>>>>comcast tivo dvr

>>>>You buy your Tivo box and rent/insert a "Comcast Cablecard" into the Tivo
>>>>box.

>>>Caveat: You can't access On Demand from a TiVo.

>>Says who? I have On Demand on my Tivo..

>>Can't get PPV events but on demand is there.

>This is the first I'd heard that CableCard allows access to interactive
>services. This was the promise of Tru2Way, but I thought that never
>really got off the ground.

We've been through this many, many times. CableCARD 1.0 was a two-way
standard. CableCARD 1.0 never prevented access to interactive services,
as set-top boxes rented to subscribers that were built 20 years ago
to implement 1990's federal laws were CableCARD 1.0 hosts. These were
all two-way receivers. CableCARD 1.0 was a two-way standard from Day
One. Set-top boxes rented from the cable system by subscribers were built
to this standard. Technically, even the security module was removeable,
although there's a piece of metal across it to make it difficult to remove
except by their technician at the warehouse.

The problem had nothing to do with the removeable security module itself,
whose circuitry never prevent two-way communication. The problem was the
consumer electronics manufacturers, who didn't want to spend the extra
money building two-way circuitry into the receiver that was a CableCARD 1.0
host. CableCARD 1.0 is a cable-industry standard. They conceded to consumer
electronics manufacturers, allowing them to claim they built CableCARD 1.0
receivers, even though they had implemented part of the standard only. FCC
in turn conceded to the cable industry, even though subscribers generally
couldn't buy set-top boxes that had implemented the standard. No, this
didn't implement the Telecom Act nor the earlier Cable Act, but FCC looked
the other way. FCC didn't have jurisdiction to regulate consumer electronics
manufacturers and couldn't prevent non-standard devices from being sold to
consumers that claimed to be standards compliant.

A handful of two-way receivers that were fully compliant were manufactured,
but it had very little impact on the market.

Tru2Way is merely the trademark for CableCARD 2.0, and the cable industry
somehow found a way to force manufacturers to building models that were
CableCARD 2.0 hosts to build all two-way receivers. Very few models were
ever built, and some manufacturers like had stopped building receivers
that were CableCARD hosts altogether.

By the time CableCARD 2.0 came around, the cable operators had begun to
push FCC for looser regulations and to start getting away from renting
equipment to subscribers that would be CableCARD hosts. For instance,
the smaller boxes capable of decrypting just a few channels aren't
CableCARD hosts.

[Adam H. Kerman]

cable...@comcast.net wrote:
>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>>"- Bobb -" <bo...@noemail.123> wrote:

>>>search Google for

>>>TIVO boxes - Comcast - cablecard.
>>>or
>>>comcast tivo dvr

>>>You buy your Tivo box and rent/insert a "Comcast Cablecard" into the Tivo
>>>box.

>>Caveat: You can't access On Demand from a TiVo.

>Says who? I have On Demand on my Tivo..
>
>Can't get PPV events but on demand is there.

You're such a shill for the cable industry!

Do you get Comcast menus and interactive program guide, too?

[Barry Margolin]

In article <koacql$lke$1...@news.albasani.net>,

I realize that the standard is 2-way. I just didn't think anyone
implemented the features that allowed devices to make use of it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Set-top boxes manufactured for cable systems to rent to subscribers
were full implementations of CableCARD 1.0 standard. The problem was
that manufacturers labeled receivers for sale to consumers CableCARD 1.0
which weren't two-way receivers, and the cable industry let them
get away with it.

[cable...@comcast.net]

Haha, the cable shill uses a Tivo. Your post is great. I thought it
was stupid to require cable cards in leased equipment. To even it up I
always thought that every TV built have a cable card interface. Might
have given the technology a better chance at being mainstream.

The VOD looks more like Tivo than Iguide, and that's not a bad thing
IMHO.

At one time if you ordered a PPV event like a concert, all the boxes
in one's home would authorize. Sadly this does not include my Tivo the
last time I tried it. So a Comcast HD box remains in the collection of
boxes that feed the screen.

I can get on demand on my Galaxy S3 phone and pipe that into the TV
over HDMI too. Don't see what the big deal is.