Embarrassing Celebrity Deaths
Mc5
Tennessee Williams-Chokes to death on a bottle cap.
Jack Cassidy-Sets his apartment on fire smoking in bed.
Any other people who have had strange deaths like " slipping in
the shower " etc ? Allegedly Elvis croaked sitting on the toilet, but
I heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
Mpoconnor7
>I heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
The books about him say he was probably sitting on the toilet when he had a
heart attack and collapsed on the floor. Apparently he used to fall asleep on
the pot on occasion due to chronic constipation. He had alot of problems with
that particular bodily function, much of it probably due to his diet of drugs
and fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches and hamburgers. When he died his
colon allegedly weighed 40 pounds and what was inside there was so impacted it
was said to be like clay.
Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The probability of one person being right increases in a direct porportion to
the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
Mpoconnor7
of a TV show and put it up to his head and pulled the trigger. Because of the
close proximity, the blank inside went off like a bullet and killed him,
although he was comatose afterwards and was taken off life support a couple
days after IIRC.
Michael Hutchence of the band INXS allegedly died of auto-erotic asphyxiation.
Terrymelin
Please tell me you don't believe that there are alligators in the sewers too?
Terry Ellsworth
Iceman
Prime Minister Anthonio de Oliveira Salazar of Portugal was lying in a
sun chair, which collapsed and Salazar received head injuries, which
led to a cerebral hemorrhage and eventually his death.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Mc5 <mc...@wsdwest.net> wrote:
> Any other people who have had strange deaths like " slipping in the
> shower " etc ? Allegedly Elvis croaked sitting on the toilet, but I
> heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
I've always thought William Henry Harrison should be a little
embarrassed about his manner of death. (Look it up if you need to.)
I'll be Isadora Duncan had a pretty stupefied expression on her face
when she felt that *jerk*.
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Maggie
Maggie
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
--Edmund Burke
kathy
but the ones I'm thinking about are:
Michael Hutchence-autoasphyxiation while masturbating
William Holden-tripped , fell and hit his head while drunk (may not
qualify)
Mama Cass Elliott-although I think the story of her choking to death
on a ham sandwich has been refuted
James Moore
> the shower " etc ?
Perhaps the most embarassing of all, Lupe Velez. Tried to kill herself by
taking pills, got sick on the pills, ran into the bathroom to throw up,
tripped over her nightgown, fell face down in the toilet and knocked herself
out cold, then drowned.
dick clark
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> In the previous article, Mc5 <mc...@wsdwest.net> wrote:
> > Any other people who have had strange deaths like " slipping in the
> > shower " etc ? Allegedly Elvis croaked sitting on the toilet, but I
> > heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
>
> I've always thought William Henry Harrison should be a little
> embarrassed about his manner of death. (Look it up if you need to.)
Well, at least he did have 30 days to think about it. *lol*
--
The Wiz ....
I suffer from deja vu and amnesia at the same
time. I think I have forgotten this before.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> Don't forget Nelson Rockefeller croaking in his mistress's bed.
>
> Maggie
>
What's to be embarrassed about in that? What a way to go......*
Bob Flaminio
> "J.D. Baldwin" <INVALID...@example.com> wrote in message
> news:b5pqio$4gi$1...@reader2.panix.com...
>
>> I've always thought William Henry Harrison should be a little
>> embarrassed about his manner of death. (Look it up if you need to.)
>
> office (32 days after he was elected) of pneumonia (also being the
> first president to study medicine)? Seems like a reach to me,
> considering it was 1841 and people still die of pneumonia even today.
The embarrassing bit is that he has the longest acceptance speech of any
president, delivered on a freezing March day, which lead to his
contracting pneumonia. Had he just shut up, he probably would have
served out his term normally.
He also gets the honor of starting the so-called presidential 20-year
curse -- until Reagan broke it, every president elected in a year ending
in "0" had died in office. And even Reagan had to take a bullet for it.
I'm sure many out there are hoping the curse starts up again...
-Bob
danny burstein
>The embarrassing bit is that he has the longest acceptance speech of any
>president, delivered on a freezing March day, which lead to his
>contracting pneumonia.
nope.
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Hoodude
(J.D. Baldwin) wrote:
>I'll be Isadora Duncan had a pretty stupefied expression on her face
>when she felt that *jerk*.
You mean Michael Moore killed her?
No wonder he was booed... and people speak ill of Roman Polanski's
past...
--
If they give you ruled paper, write the other way.
- Juan Ramón Jiménez
Bob Flaminio
> In <b5q4pf$2c57jb$1...@ID-40152.news.dfncis.de> "Bob Flaminio"
> <b...@flaminio.com> writes:
>
>> The embarrassing bit is that he has the longest acceptance speech of
>> any
>> president, delivered on a freezing March day, which lead to his
>> contracting pneumonia.
>
> nope.
What do you mean, "nope." Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Cite:
>>>
Delivered the longest inaugural address on March 4. It was an extremely
cold day and Harrison did not wear a hat while delivering the 105 minute
speech. He contracted pneumonia and died in the White House one month
later.
<<<
Source: http://ipl.si.umich.edu/div/potus/whharrison.html
-Bob
Dave B
>
> Tennessee Williams-Chokes to death on a bottle cap.
I bet he choked on "something" allright, but not a bottle cap. :)
Erik L.
>I can't deny I am among those who are not ready for that curse to end
>just yet....
>
Ah yes another filthy leftist scumbag who wants someone dead becasue they are
of a differant political belief. No wonder your cat ran away.
Except for ending slavery, Nazism and genocide, WAR has never solved anything.
Erik L.
Jim Beaver
"Bob Flaminio" <b...@flaminio.com> wrote in message
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According to Harrison's biographer Freeman Cleaves in OLD TIPPECANOE,
Harrison showed no signs of illness for three weeks following his inaugural
address, which he did indeed deliver sans hat, sans coat, sans gloves. It
has become popular mythology that it was this defiance of the cold on his
inaugural day that did Harrison in. In actuality, he caught a bad cold
three weeks later, on March 26, after being caught out in the rain during
his daily walk (though the cold seems more likely the result of thousands of
handshakes than mere rain, since cold and damp themselves are not virus
carriers). The cold became worse overnight and the 67-year-old president
called for a doctor the next day, March 27. The doctor diagnosed pneumonia
and intestinal inflammation, which he called "bilious pleurisy." Harrison
spent a week in bed, felt much better, but then had a relapse on April 3, at
which time the doctors proclaimed him beyond recovery. Though his lungs had
improved and his breathing was easier, stomach and intestinal distress were
severe, and Harrison died the next day, April 4. Harrison's contemporaries
made no connection between the inaugural day weather and Harrison's death,
particularly as he claimed to feel in excellent health and was seen to
function with surprising robustness for his age during the entire first
three weeks of his presidency.
Jim Beaver
Bob Flaminio
Thanks, Jim -- a much better post than just "nope".
-Bob
Mpoconnor7
>qualify)
What always got me about his death is that nobody found him for about two weeks
after the fact. As famous a celebrity as William Holden was, you'd have
thought one of his friends or a family member or neighbor or maid or butler or
agent or reporter who missed an interview with him would have inquired about
him sooner. It never made sense that a guy like him could be MISSING for so
long without somebody asking where the hell he was. It wasn't like he was on
vacation in some remote part of the world, IIRC he was in his house in greater
LA.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
Ewwww, Dave, *yuck*. You're probably right though. Of course, these could be
"code names", which would mean that Mr. and Mrs. Cap were highly upset at
their son, Bottle, when he finally came home that night. ;-)~
Maggie
> > <b...@flaminio.com> writes:
> >
> >> The embarrassing bit is that he has the longest acceptance speech of
> >> any
> >> president, delivered on a freezing March day, which lead to his
> >> contracting pneumonia.
> >
> > nope.
>
> What do you mean, "nope." Is that supposed to be a rebuttal? Cite:
>
> >>>
> Delivered the longest inaugural address on March 4. It was an extremely
> cold day and Harrison did not wear a hat while delivering the 105 minute
> speech. He contracted pneumonia and died in the White House one month
> later.
> <<<
>
> Source: http://ipl.si.umich.edu/div/potus/whharrison.html
Jim said:
According to Harrison's biographer Freeman Cleaves in OLD TIPPECANOE,
Harrison showed no signs of illness for three weeks following his inaugural
address, which he did indeed deliver sans hat, sans coat, sans gloves. It
has become popular mythology that it was this defiance of the cold on his
inaugural day that did Harrison in. In actuality, he caught a bad cold
three weeks later, on March 26, after being caught out in the rain during
his daily walk (though the cold seems more likely the result of thousands of
handshakes than mere rain, since cold and damp themselves are not virus
carriers). The cold became worse overnight and the 67-year-old president
called for a doctor the next day, March 27. The doctor diagnosed pneumonia
and intestinal inflammation, which he called "bilious pleurisy." Harrison
spent a week in bed, felt much better, but then had a relapse on April 3, at
which time the doctors proclaimed him beyond recovery. Though his lungs had
improved and his breathing was easier, stomach and intestinal distress were
severe, and Harrison died the next day, April 4. Harrison's contemporaries
made no connection between the inaugural day weather and Harrison's death,
particularly as he claimed to feel in excellent health and was seen to
function with surprising robustness for his age during the entire first
three weeks of his presidency.
>>
***Well, there's that. And the fact that standing in the cold without a hat
doesn't spontaneously generate bacteria or viruses in your lungs.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
IIRC, Harrison also had refused to wear a top hat that day, something about
he wanted to be seen better by the people by not having a hat donned upon
his head. Which goes to prove, arrogance will get you killed.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
Ah, a man after my own heart. Jim, you do not know how many times I have
argued with others on the fact that you *cannot* catch a cold by being wet,
and out in the cold weather. It is a virus, transmitted through close
airborne or physical contact with someone who has a cold. There was even a
doctor on TV who stated that you can run out in the rain all you want, and
all that you will get, is wet. So much for my Harrison died by not wearing a
hat theory, which I had been taught as a yonker, back in the hills, in the
one-room school house here in Ky. *actually, I attended public school, it
just sounded funnier to say it that way*
Pleurisy, OTOH, is not usually fatal, but you will sure think you are dying.
Chris
> >qualify)
>
> What always got me about his death is that nobody found him for about two
weeks
> after the fact. As famous a celebrity as William Holden was, you'd have
> thought one of his friends or a family member or neighbor or maid or
butler or
> agent or reporter who missed an interview with him would have inquired
about
> him sooner. It never made sense that a guy like him could be MISSING for
so
> long without somebody asking where the hell he was. It wasn't like he was
on
> vacation in some remote part of the world, IIRC he was in his house in
greater
> LA.
>
> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
I found this doing a Google search. I thought it was so sad that he bled to
death when some stitches to his wound would have saved him, but he was too
drunk to realize he'd hurt himself.
Chris in Pearland, TX
From Google Search:
Holden died in 1981; he was found in his apartment four days after he
apparently fell, hit his head on a bedside table and bled to death.
Dave B
"The Kentucky Wizard" <kentuckywizardNOJU...@hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:Nn%fa.228607$6b3.6...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
Well it would be embarrassing to me if I died when one of the sister "ho's"
were here. You know what I'm talking about Wiz.:)
Dave B
- - - - - - - -
It was long ago and it was far away, and it was so much better than it is
today.
>
>
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> "The Kentucky Wizard"
> <kentuckywizardNOJU...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Nn%fa.228607$6b3.6...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
> > Upon receiving news that Maggie had made the remarks below, and
> > after consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by
> > members of my Cabinet and telephone conversations with various
> > world leaders, I have come to the following conclusions:
> >
> >
> > > Don't forget Nelson Rockefeller croaking in his mistress's bed.
> > >
> > > Maggie
> > >
> >
> > What's to be embarrassed about in that? What a way to go......*
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Wiz ....
> >
> > I suffer from deja vu and amnesia at the same
> > time. I think I have forgotten this before.
>
> Well it would be embarrassing to me if I died when one of the sister
> "ho's" were here. You know what I'm talking about Wiz.:)
>
> Dave B
> - - - - - - - -
> It was long ago and it was far away, and it was so much better than
> it is today.
*LOL*, yep, I know....*
Bermuda999
His death certificate:
http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/William%20Holden/Holden%20DC.JPG
A page from the autopsy, (somewhat gruesome, noting maggots in his mouth and
eyes)
http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/William%20Holden/holden%20autopsy.JPG
danny burstein
>Thanks, Jim -- a much better post than just "nope".
If you believe that being out in cold weather leads to illness, you're
about a century behind the times.
Bob Flaminio
>> Thanks, Jim -- a much better post than just "nope".
>
> If you believe that being out in cold weather leads to illness, you're
> about a century behind the times.
Do wake me when you have something intelligent to say, please.
-Bob
Erik L.
doc
<kentuckywizardNOJU...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Ah, a man after my own heart. Jim, you do not know how many times I have
>argued with others on the fact that you *cannot* catch a cold by being wet,
>and out in the cold weather. It is a virus, transmitted through close
>airborne or physical contact with someone who has a cold. There was even a
>doctor on TV who stated that you can run out in the rain all you want, and
>all that you will get, is wet. So much for my Harrison died by not wearing a
>hat theory, which I had been taught as a yonker, back in the hills, in the
>one-room school house here in Ky. *actually, I attended public school, it
>just sounded funnier to say it that way*
>
>Pleurisy, OTOH, is not usually fatal, but you will sure think you are dying.
My considered opinion is that Harrison succumbed to the sequelae of a
particularly nasty strain of influenza which was making the rounds
that year. However, since no postmortem was reported, we'll never
know whether there was an underlying condition which hastened the old
general's road to Valhalla.
In 1841, he was already pushing the envelope of longevity and would
have been considered ancient by average folks, most of whom never saw
their fortieth birthday.
One thing you mentioned, Wiz, does have some bearing on the appearance
of symptoms in the cases of virally-transmitted illnesses like colds
or flu: External Pernicious Influences, as they are called by the
Chinese (in Mandarin, I assume), such as wind, rain, and dampness, can
suppress the human immune system and thus provide a more hospitable
incubator for the already transmitted viruses. Physical exhaustion
and depression can likewise play a role in the appearance of symptoms.
I suspect that, then as now, the prospect of being responsible for the
daily administration of the Federal government would be physically
exhausting and more than a little melancholy.
Erik L.
>You are simple a 95 year old whore. Please die.
My hopes for you to die are unrelated to your politics. It is because you are
friendly with Loki. That is reason enough.
doc
wrote:
>>William Holden-tripped , fell and hit his head while drunk (may not
>>qualify)
>
>What always got me about his death is that nobody found him for about two weeks
>after the fact. As famous a celebrity as William Holden was, you'd have
>thought one of his friends or a family member or neighbor or maid or butler or
>agent or reporter who missed an interview with him would have inquired about
>him sooner. It never made sense that a guy like him could be MISSING for so
>long without somebody asking where the hell he was. It wasn't like he was on
>vacation in some remote part of the world, IIRC he was in his house in greater
>LA.
>
Indeed, Holden was a late stage chronic alcoholic who was given to
reclusive benders. His death was very, very sad and not all that
unusual for alcoholics with means. The friends and intimates of such
alcoholics -- so I've been told -- learn over the years to leave them
alone when they're "on a toot."
He was a brilliant actor. I really miss his brand of screen star.
doc
>Erik L. <islan...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> From: "吵o吩oo"
>>> I can't deny I am among those who are not ready for that curse
>>> to end just yet....
>>>
>>
>> Ah yes another filthy leftist scumbag who wants someone dead
>> becasue they are of a differant political belief. No wonder your
>> cat ran away.
>
>~~~~~
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>You are simple a 95 year old whore. Please die.
>
I keep killfiling him and he keeps weasling his way through the
threads. If Erik had some innovative or witty package for his vitriol,
I could tolerate it. However, he's just slightly less obnoxious than
a spoiled three-year old throwing a tantrum in bulk candy aisle of a
Wal-Mart.
Those militia guys usually hold their bivouacs in Montana during the
Spring. Maybe Erik will be on vacation soon.
Maggie
Chinese (in Mandarin, I assume), such as wind, rain, and dampness, can
suppress the human immune system and thus provide a more hospitable
incubator for the already transmitted viruses. >>
***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human immune system.
Even cold and chills don't.
dick clark
Virginia Rappe, by, well no one is sure.....
Madonna's career, by suicide?
Lewis Stone (Andy hardy's dad, Judge Hardy), hart attack after running after
ruffians
Jack (Addison Owen) Randall, old time cowboy star, thrown from his horse (or
hart attack, depending upon source)
"Mc5" <mc...@wsdwest.net> wrote in message
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> Howard Hawks-Trips over his dog and fractures his skull.
>
> Tennessee Williams-Chokes to death on a bottle cap.
>
> Jack Cassidy-Sets his apartment on fire smoking in bed.
>
> Any other people who have had strange deaths like " slipping in
> the shower " etc ? Allegedly Elvis croaked sitting on the toilet, but
> I heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
>
>
Cpl. O'Reilly
Beaver <jumb...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
Damn, next you'll be telling us that Millard Fillmore didn't install
the first bathtub in the White House.
Thank you for that excerpt. I had no idea the pneumonia story was a
fake.
Cpl. O'Reilly
<bermu...@aol.com> wrote:
The sheet is marked for John Doe #477. If Holden died at home, why
would they bring him in as a John Doe?
The sheet shows an appendectomy scar. Did Holden have one?
What is a "skin slip"? Several are noted.
The main thing here is that he had blood on his hands and down the
front of his shirt and on his shorts. I think he hit his head, tried
to stop the flow of blood, stood up and passed out, maybe from the
concussion. The sheet shows a major head wound. The idea that he just
passed out drunk and fell and hit his head doesn't work, given these
findings.
Cpl. O'Reilly
<dig_infinity!@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:54:16 +0000 (UTC), INVALID...@example.com
> (J.D. Baldwin) wrote:
>
> >I'll be Isadora Duncan had a pretty stupefied expression on her face
> >when she felt that *jerk*.
>
> You mean Michael Moore killed her?
>
> No wonder he was booed... and people speak ill of Roman Polanski's
> past...
You're trying to compare Moore's anti-war sentiment to Polanski's rape
of a child? No shame at all, I guess.
Mack Twamley
>
> A page from the autopsy, (somewhat gruesome, noting maggots in his mouth
and
> eyes)
> http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/William%20Holden/holden%20autopsy.JPG
>
a friend of mine who supposedly was privy to the autopsy photos says that
Holden's face was as black as a piano. whew.
Jim Beaver
"David Carson" <da...@neosoft.com> wrote in message
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> contemporaries believe that he was murdered by the "southern conspiracy",
> as I was taught in college? Another alleged victim of the conspiracy was
> Zachary Taylor, whose body was exhumed in 1991 to investigate claims that
> he was poisoned.
Nothing whatsoever about such beliefs in the Cleaves biography, the only WHH
bio I've read. I never heard the notion before. Taylor was indeed exhumed
to look for arsenic in his system--no trace of poisons was found. But
incidentally, the Taylor biography I read, K. Jack Bauer's 1985 ZACHARY
TAYLOR gives no suggestion of even a rumor of poisoning in Taylor's case.
It's made pretty clear that, despite widespread warnings against consuming
milk, unboiled water, and fresh fruit during the cholera crisis taking place
in Washington at the time, President Taylor attended a gathering at which he
ate ALL of those things. He was diagnosed with cholera within a day or so,
and his symptoms were perfectly in line with that diagnosis. I'm not sure
when the arsenic story came into play, but it's not mentioned in Bauer's
biography, the best one I could find on Taylor.
Jim Beaver
Mack Twamley
himself' in the shower and had a ligature around his neck to effect anoxia,
during autoeroticism. Unfortunately for him he went too far with this,
passing out and dying in the process.
Jim Beaver
> > "Mc5" <mc...@wsdwest.net> wrote in message
> > news:b5p94...@enews3.newsguy.com...
> > > Howard Hawks-Trips over his dog and fractures his skull.
> > >
> > > Tennessee Williams-Chokes to death on a bottle cap.
> >
> > I bet he choked on "something" allright, but not a bottle cap. :)
Everything I've found indicates that Williams, inebriated, accidentally
swallowed the cap to either a pill bottle or (more likely) nose drops,
possibly while using the nose drop bottle to administer drugs. The cap
lodged in his windpipe and he choked to death. There seems to be no
question among the authorities and Williams's family that these are the
basic facts.
Jim Beaver
doc
wrote:
><< External Pernicious Influences, as they are called by the
>Chinese (in Mandarin, I assume), such as wind, rain, and dampness, can
>suppress the human immune system and thus provide a more hospitable
>incubator for the already transmitted viruses. >>
>
>***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human immune system.
> Even cold and chills don't.
>
>
You are quite wrong, madam. And there is much clinical data to back
up the supposition that environmental factors do have a direct bearing
on the immune system.
Bermuda999
>The sheet is marked for John Doe #477. If Holden died at home, why
>would they bring him in as a John Doe?
Wild guess:
-They found a body in William Holden's home.
-Face unrecognizable
-No dental records checked yet
-He's John Doe until a positive ID is made that he's Holden and not, say, Kato
Kaelin.
doc
And I believe you are absolutely correct, Sir. By the time of his
death, Tennessee Williams was much too debilitated and debauched to
have died in flagrante delicto. Moreover, his autobiography relates,
in some explicit detail, how much he feared dying of aspiration or
asphyxia. Apparently this neurosis was borne from his aspiration of
vomitus during a reaction to ether during surgery in the 20s.
Like much of Williams life, his death was ironic.
Mc5
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> Please tell me you don't believe that there are alligators in the sewers
too?
>
> Terry Ellsworth
http://www.imagi-nation.com/moonstruck/clsc9.htm
The article reads:
On February 24, 1983, Tennessee Williams choked to death on a bottle cap
at his New York City residence at the Hotel Elysee.
James Hall
Hey b00by does it hurt your "americaaaaan pride" when someone,
even another americaaaan, points out just how dimwitted you truly
are ?
I believe that some of our readers are beginning to notice that not
only are you a dullard but also a poster who enjoys either stretching
the truth or not telling the whole truth.
Have I introduced you top this NG's pissing wizer ? I believe the 2
of you should be able to suck the pimples of your souls with such
vigor and delight that you may not even require any form, manner
and/or matter of audience.
However, if I am still in this NG please don't stop on my account. I
have also enjoy reading the accounts of the brain-dead. It helps
me to appreciate writers like Oscar Wilde, Hunter S.T. , Truman C.
and others that much more.
Hope this helps you understand what your brain-dead mind is hoping
you may one day come to realize. Take your time we are in no rush
as there is a war to fight and people to kill and contracts to "hand"
out ahhhh who gives a fuck, eh ?
JHall.
Terrymelin
dies would need to be alive to be embarassed.
Terry Ellsworth
Erik L.
>You're trying to compare Moore's anti-war sentiment to Polanski's rape
>of a child? No shame at all, I guess.
>
No neither of these guys have any shame. Both belong in jail.
Bob Flaminio
> "Bob Flaminio" <b...@flaminio.com> wrote in message
> news:b5qi9e$2bn24s$1...@ID-40152.news.dfncis.de...
>> danny burstein wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Jim -- a much better post than just "nope".
>>>
>>> If you believe that being out in cold weather leads to illness,
>>> you're about a century behind the times.
>>
>> Do wake me when you have something intelligent to say, please.
>
> Hey b00by does it hurt your "americaaaaan pride" when someone,
> even another americaaaan, points out just how dimwitted you truly
> are ?
Sorry, James -- still sleeping. I only wake for clever posts.
-Bob
Erik L.
>Maybe Erik will be on vacation soon.
Your suicide will ensure that you never have to read my name again
>Those militia guys usually hold their bivouacs in Montana during the
>Spring.
I have never belonged to a militia. But since you are a left wing scumbag, you
would not have a clue.
Erik L.
>He hasn't managed to get way out
>west to Pennsylvania yet.
Just like you fellow child molester Loki, you are wrong.
Erik L.
>R O T F L !!! And here, all this time, I thought you didn't like ME
>because I'm 700 years old, a whore, less funny than a fire in an old
>age home, a cat killer, and just a few minutes ago: another filthy
>leftist scumbag.
These are your good points.
>Why shouldn't I be friendly with Loki?
You should child molesters probablt do stick together.
>you're just not my kind of people.
AMEN
>You, otoh, are completely unlike
>him in every way..
Can I get another AMEN?
>Nyoo Yaawk Chitty.
I have no idea where this is.
>You are dull, Eric, very
>dull....
Your suicide will ensure that I won't bore you.
Terrymelin
>weeks
>after the fact
It was judged by the coroner to have been a little less than a week; not two
weeks. And it was never proven that he was drunk at the time.
It's amazing how hard it is to dispel these urban legends.
Terry Ellsworth
Terrymelin
>apparently fell, hit his head on a bedside table and bled to death.
It's interesting that you deduced from the above that he was "drunk" and "fell"
when all it says is that he "apparently" fell. It says nothing about his being
drunk.
Terry Ellsworth
Terrymelin
>passed out drunk and fell and hit his head doesn't work, given these
>findings.
That's right because that's not how it happened. Kudos to you for actually
reading the report!
Terry Ellsworth
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Maggie <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote:
> ***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human
> immune system. Even cold and chills don't.
This is far from a settled question.
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone disagrees with any statement I make, I
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer
***~~~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------
James Hall
"Cpl. O'Reilly" <ra...@mash.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:250320031655066554%ra...@mash.com.invalid...
I believe the charge is "engaging in consenual sex with a minor", however,
the comparison is one take brain-dead assholes would choose, eh ?
JHall.
doc
(J.D. Baldwin) wrote:
>
>In the previous article, Maggie <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote:
>> ***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human
>> immune system. Even cold and chills don't.
>
>This is far from a settled question.
Indeed, you are correct. There was a fascinating clinical study done
in New Zealand about five years ago which found a correlation between
ambient temperature, serum cortisol levels and the manifestation of
symptoms in Post-Polio Syndrome. In the practice of clinical
medicine, in both the Western tradition beginning with Hippocrates and
in the Eastern tradition, it has always been taken for granted that
extremes in the ambient temperature were severe physical stressors on
the body and rendered the organism susceptible to disease.
Thus far, data have supported this premise, rather than refuting it.
James Hall
"§no§hoo" <snos...@att.net> wrote in message
news:pE4ga.49682$S%3.17...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Erik L." <islan...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030325163906...@mb-mu.aol.com...
> > >From: "§no§hoo"
> >
> > >You are simple a 95 year old whore. Please die.
> >
> > My hopes for you to die are unrelated to your politics. It is because
> you are
> > friendly with Loki. That is reason enough.
>
> R O T F L !!! And here, all this time, I thought you didn't like ME
> because I'm 700 years old, a whore, less funny than a fire in an old
> age home, a cat killer, and just a few minutes ago: another filthy
> leftist scumbag.
>
> is...a good-looking, caring and good person/husband/father, likes cats,
> is quite gainfully employed, and his writing is amusing (especially
> when he's got you jumping around like a fart in a frying pan)....plus,
> he's sorta on the same political side I am. He's never said a bad word
> to me, either on the ng or otherwise. You, otoh, are completely unlike
> him in every way....you're just not my kind of people. Oh, and Loki
> lives in California and you are in Nyoo Yaawk Chitty. That alone would
> put you on the outside (perhaps if you traveled a bit and weren't so
> completely mentally constipated). <yawn> You are dull, Eric, very
> dull....
Or as they say in the mean streets of naaaaa yorrrrrrrk and the country
bumkin backroads of louuuuuuuuiiiiiville, a complete and total asshole.
And we all got one, some are more lucky, I guess, eh ?
JHall.
Erik L.
>I guess, eh ?
>
Why do Canadians say eh? It is the only way that they can tell the sentence had
ended.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> David Carson
I watched a C-SPAN video, last night as a matter of fact, with Dr. Richard
Greathouse, the Jefferson Coroner, who oversaw the examination of Zack's
exhumed body. They found no evidence whatsoever that Taylor was poisoned
with arsenic, based on three different tests, and the ultimate finding was
that he more than likely succumb to cholera morbus, as well as various
medicinal concoctions that the well-meaning physicians administered to him
also. No doubt, the fact that he was exhumed and reburied at least three
times, solidified the fact that he was dead.
http://www.americanpresidents.org/presidents/president.asp?PresidentNumber=1
2
--
The Wiz ....
I suffer from deja vu and amnesia at the same
time. I think I have forgotten this before.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> In article <20030325160529...@mb-cq.aol.com>, Bermuda999
> <bermu...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "Chris" rmark...@houston.rr.com
> >
> > >> >William Holden-tripped , fell and hit his head while drunk (may
> > >> >not qualify)
> > >>
> > >> What always got me about his death is that nobody found him for
> > >> about two weeks after the fact. As famous a celebrity as
> > >> William Holden was, you'd have thought one of his friends or a
> > >> family member or neighbor or maid or butler or agent or
> > >> reporter who missed an interview with him would have inquired
> > >> about him sooner. It never made sense that a guy like him could
> > >> be MISSING for so long without somebody asking where the hell he
> > >> was. It wasn't like he was on vacation in some remote part of
> > >> the world, IIRC he was in his house in greater LA.
> > >>
> > >> Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
> > >
> > >I found this doing a Google search. I thought it was so sad that
> > >he bled to death when some stitches to his wound would have saved
> > >him, but he was too drunk to realize he'd hurt himself.
> > >
> > >Chris in Pearland, TX
> > >
> > >From Google Search:
> > >
> > >Holden died in 1981; he was found in his apartment four days after
> > >he apparently fell, hit his head on a bedside table and bled to
> > >death.
> >
> > His death certificate:
> > http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/William%20Holden/Holden%20DC.JPG
> >
> > A page from the autopsy, (somewhat gruesome, noting maggots in his
> > mouth and eyes)
> >
http://www.findadeath.com/Decesed/h/William%20Holden/holden%20autopsy.JPG
> >
>
> The sheet is marked for John Doe #477. If Holden died at home, why
> would they bring him in as a John Doe?
>
> The sheet shows an appendectomy scar. Did Holden have one?
>
> What is a "skin slip"? Several are noted.
>
> The main thing here is that he had blood on his hands and down the
> front of his shirt and on his shorts. I think he hit his head, tried
> to stop the flow of blood, stood up and passed out, maybe from the
> concussion. The sheet shows a major head wound. The idea that he
> just
> passed out drunk and fell and hit his head doesn't work, given these
> findings.
If I am not mistaken, after a few days of decomposition, the skin, primarily
the dermal layer, tends to "slip", or "slide". It is predominate in the
cases of bodies pulled from the water, which speeds up this process. It's
similar to your skin "peeling" away after a severe sunburn.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
So, when they found him, was his eye opened or closed?
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, 吵o吩oo <snos...@att.net> wrote:
> Toxicology reports found his blood alcohol level was .22 percent,
> more than twice the legal driving limit of .10 percent.
While he was probably intoxicated to a degree, a raging alkie like him
might be less impaired at .22 than you or I would be at .08. The
alcohol level wasn't *necessarily* a contributing factor to his death,
though that's the way I'd bet.
Maggie
wrote:
><< External Pernicious Influences, as they are called by the
>Chinese (in Mandarin, I assume), such as wind, rain, and dampness, can
>suppress the human immune system and thus provide a more hospitable
>incubator for the already transmitted viruses. >>
>
>***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human immune
system.
> Even cold and chills don't.
>
doc said:
You are quite wrong, madam. And there is much clinical data to back
up the supposition that environmental factors do have a direct bearing
on the immune system.
>>
***Well, sir, since there's so much clinical data out there, you should have no
problem citing some of it.
I want to learn.
Maggie
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
--Edmund Burke
Maggie
> Toxicology reports found his blood alcohol level was .22 percent,
> more than twice the legal driving limit of .10 percent.
J.D. Baldwin said:
While he was probably intoxicated to a degree, a raging alkie like him
might be less impaired at .22 than you or I would be at .08. The
alcohol level wasn't *necessarily* a contributing factor to his death,
though that's the way I'd bet. >>
***The other thing to consider, though, is that Holden didn't die right
away--he bled to death over a period of hours (IIRC). No doubt his blood
alcohol level was even higher when he tripped.
Mpoconnor7
>Holden's face was as black as a piano. whew.
When Elvis Presley died the EMT who went up to the bathroom to see what
happened to him thought Elvis was African American from the way his skin turned
dark.
Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man
"The probability of one person being right increases in a direct porportion to
the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
RobbGrn
" etc ? >>
Well, William Holden tripped while intoxicated and hit his head on a marble
tabletop...and subsequently bled to death. That's pretty embarrassing,
especially since he wasn't found until days later.
Also, I've long heard the rumor that F.W. Murnau ("Tabu," "Sunrise") decided to
let his young houseboy drive his limo in the Hollywood Hills while he (Murnau)
performed fellatio -- an act that understandably distracted the driver who
caused the crash that killed them both. Surely they would have been embarrassed
had they been alive when the cops arrived.
Mpoconnor7
>> 'enjoying himself' in the shower and had a ligature around his neck
>> to effect anoxia, during autoeroticism. Unfortunately for him he
>> went too far with this, passing out and dying in the process.
I was watching his story on E! Mysteries and Scandals today.
Brigid Nelson
>
> Jack (Addison Owen) Randall, old time cowboy star, thrown from his horse (or
> hart attack, depending upon source)
Would that have been a *Wolfram and Hart* attack?
Just askin'
brigid
Mack Twamley
"dick clark" <richard...@res.raytheon.com> wrote in message
news:4t4ga.2925$c6....@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com...
> Ramon Navaro, by a dildo, sort of........
>
> Virginia Rappe, by, well no one is sure.....
>
> Madonna's career, by suicide?
>
> Lewis Stone (Andy hardy's dad, Judge Hardy), hart attack after running
after
> ruffians
>
> Jack (Addison Owen) Randall, old time cowboy star, thrown from his horse
(or
> hart attack, depending upon source)
So you're saying both the last two gents died from an attack of a male deer?
stabbed 'em with his antlers, did he?
Reminds me of the old song about the stag stag...."None but the lonely
Hart".... : - )
doc
wrote:
>
>***Well, sir, since there's so much clinical data out there, you should have no
>problem citing some of it.
>
>I want to learn.
>
I cited one of the landmark studies in a previous reply in this
thread. There are several others which, I assure you, I will post
once I have retrieved the links.
We certainly want to accomodate you.
doc
wrote:
>***Well, sir, since there's so much clinical data out there, you should have no
>problem citing some of it.
>
>I want to learn.
>
Jiang, C.G., J.L. Morrow-Tesch, D.I. Beller, E.M. Levy and P.H.
Black. 1990. Immunosuppression in mice induced by cold water stress.
Brain Behav. Immun. 4:278-291.
Stress and "Type A" Behavior as Precipitants of Post-Polio Sequelae:
The Felician/Columbia Survey
Richard L. Bruno, PhD, and Nancy M. Frick, MDiv, LhD
In LS Halstead and DO Wiechers (Eds.): Research and Clinical Aspects
of the Late Effects of Poliomyelitis. White Plains: March of Dimes
Research Foundation, 1987.
Clinical Implications
This survey has documented the deleterious effects of physical
overexertion and exposure to extremes in temperature in persons who
were less severely affected by the original polio infection than were
subjects in other studies (10,11,17). It has also documented that GRM
occurred in nearly two-thirds of this post-polio sample.
Kutschrenreuter, P.H. A study of the effect of weather on mortality
Ann. N. Y. Acad. Sci. 22:126-138 (1959).
Hypothermia-Related Deaths-Georgia, January 1996- December 1997,
describes in-depth the hypothetical immunosuppressive mechanism
initiated in the human organism by cold-water immersion.,
JAMA.ama-assn v281n2
And the list goes on.
Now, I would appreciate it if you could educate me with citations of
studies supporting the contrary hypothesis.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
> >From: "James Hall" jh...@cuic.ca
>
> >I guess, eh ?
> >
>
> Why do Canadians say eh? It is the only way that they can tell the
> sentence had ended.
>
Who eve said that canadians could structure sentences properly?
att...@aol.com
Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was goofing around with a prop gun while he was
on the set
of a TV show and put it up to his head and pulled the trigger.
Mr. Hexum's heart was transplanted into a Las Vegas pimp shortly after
the actor's death. I lived in Vegas at the time and the transplant
caused quite a stir.
Other embarrassing deaths:
George Sanders's suicide could be viewed as embarrassing. He allegedly
wrote curses all over his body in woman's lipstick before he hung
himself.
Charlie "Lucky" Lucianno dropped dead of a heart attack as he walked
to greet a screenwriter planning to immortalize the dapper gangster on
film. His death was more vain than embarrassing.
Paul Stojanovich's recent death would also qualify as clumsy and
embarrassing.
Erik L.
>Who eve said that canadians could structure sentences properly?
>
Thye can't. but if they did not say Eh they would talk forever.
Dave B
>
> "doc" <drbo...@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:ngm18vkkb99251agk...@4ax.com...
> > On 25 Mar 2003 21:57:00 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
> > wrote:
> >
> > ><< External Pernicious Influences, as they are called by the
> > >Chinese (in Mandarin, I assume), such as wind, rain, and dampness,
> can
> > >suppress the human immune system and thus provide a more hospitable
> > >incubator for the already transmitted viruses. >>
> > >
> > >***No, sorry. Wind, rain and dampness do NOT suppress the human
> immune system.
> > > Even cold and chills don't.
> > >
> > >
> > up the supposition that environmental factors do have a direct
> bearing
> > on the immune system.
>
> correct.
>
> snoshoo
>
>
It's funny how we all can have different experiences so can draw different
conclusions. I've found my experiences just the opposite. I go out in winter
to get mail or do something that won't take long without a coat, have wet
hair, sometimes it freezes, lol, but never have gotten sick from that.
Dave B
- - - - - - - -
It was long ago and it was far away, and it was so much better than it is
today.
Jim Beaver
"ru...@einsiders.com" <att...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:66f20b0a.03032...@posting.google.com...
> Michael O'Conner wrote:
> Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was goofing around with a prop gun while he was
> on the set
> of a TV show and put it up to his head and pulled the trigger.
>
> Mr. Hexum's heart was transplanted into a Las Vegas pimp shortly after
> the actor's death. I lived in Vegas at the time and the transplant
> caused quite a stir.
>
> Other embarrassing deaths:
>
> George Sanders's suicide could be viewed as embarrassing. He allegedly
> wrote curses all over his body in woman's lipstick before he hung
> himself.
You're confusing George Sanders with Albert Dekker. Sanders took poison and
left a very Sanders-like note.
Jim Beaver
The Kentucky Wizard
after consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members
of my Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have
come to the following conclusions:
> Upon receiving news that Erik L. had made the remarks below, and after
> consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members
> of my Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders,
> I have come to the following conclusions:
>
>
> > >From: "James Hall" jh...@cuic.ca
> >
> > >I guess, eh ?
> > >
> >
> > Why do Canadians say eh? It is the only way that they can tell the
> > sentence had ended.
> >
>
>
> Who eve said that canadians could structure sentences properly?
*shit* What a time for a typo.
J.D. Baldwin
> being able to stop the bleeding.
Intoxication can exacerbate shock, too, even apart from the motor
function and judgment impairment that might have prevented him from
helping himself.
Maggie
***Jesus. It's not like it's any big secret--there's all kind of evidence.
Here's the first thing a google search turned up:
Ask the Bridge
Does the temperature outside have anything to do with the body's susceptibility
to catching a cold or virus? If not, why are so many people infected during the
winter?
One of the most common myths is that exposure to cold temperatures leads to
colds. More upper respiratory infections occur during the winter months, but
this is because of greater exposure to viruses indoors -- where we spend a lot
of time avoiding the chilly weather.
"Cold temperatures do not cause colds," says CAS Biology Professor Stjepko
Golubic. "Historically, Eskimos and people in the northern latitudes, before
being exposed to viruses from white people, did not suffer from colds."
You are more likely to catch the common cold in the winter, however, because
humidity drops. Colds and viruses love dry weather. When mucus is moist, it's
better able to capture the viruses and pass them to the stomach, where they
perish in acid.
And the more infected people you are exposed to, the greater your chances of
catching a cold. "Personally, I've noticed that if I don't teach for a
prolonged period, or if I don't take the trolley for a while, my exposure is
limited," says Golubic. But that doesn't mean you should become a hermit. One
safeguard against the common cold is simply to wash your hands frequently and
thoroughly.
"You can also catch a cold or virus more easily in any season if your body's
defenses are down," adds Golubic. "For example, if you don't get enough sleep
or if you're under stress, the cold is better able to attack your immune
system. Older people are less resistant to colds and viruses."
What should you do when you get a cold? Double your fluid intake, because colds
thrive in dryness. This doesn't mean drinking alcoholic beverages and coffee:
they dehydrate. Try herbal teas or a combination of hot water, lemon juice, and
honey -- hot liquids speed up mucus flow, which will get the virus out of your
system more quickly.
"Ask the Bridge" welcomes readers’ questions. E-mail bri...@bu.edu or write
to "Ask the Bridge," 10 Lenox Street, Brookline, MA 02446.
19 January 2001
Boston University
Office of University Relations
doc
wrote:
><< On 26 Mar 2003 01:20:53 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
>wrote:
>
>
>"You can also catch a cold or virus more easily in any season if your body's
>defenses are down," adds Golubic. "For example, if you don't get enough sleep
>or if you're under stress, the cold is better able to attack your immune
>system. Older people are less resistant to colds and viruses."
>
>Maggie
>
But THAT was precisely my point! Enviromental factors play a role in
the stimulation and suppression of the immune system. Ambient
temperature is one of those factors.
I never proposed that one catches the flu or a head cold because of
the ambient temperature. The supposition was that the ambient
temperature can render one more susceptible to infection through
suppression of the immune system. The research I cited purports to
demonstrate a direct correlation between quanitifiable immunological
responses in the organism and external environmental factors.
Of course, now we've come far afield of the presumptive cause of
President Harrison's unfortunately timed demise.
To quote Strother Martin, What we have here is failure to communicate.
Maggie
wrote:
><< On 26 Mar 2003 01:20:53 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
>wrote:
>
>
>"You can also catch a cold or virus more easily in any season if your body's
>defenses are down," adds Golubic. "For example, if you don't get enough sleep
>or if you're under stress, the cold is better able to attack your immune
>system. Older people are less resistant to colds and viruses."
>
>Maggie
>
doc said:
But THAT was precisely my point! Enviromental factors play a role in
the stimulation and suppression of the immune system. Ambient
temperature is one of those factors.
I never proposed that one catches the flu or a head cold because of
the ambient temperature. The supposition was that the ambient
temperature can render one more susceptible to infection through
suppression of the immune system. The research I cited purports to
demonstrate a direct correlation between quanitifiable immunological
responses in the organism and external environmental factors.
Of course, now we've come far afield of the presumptive cause of
President Harrison's unfortunately timed demise.
To quote Strother Martin, What we have here is failure to communicate.
>><
***Oh for pete's sake. There's not a shred of evidence that exposure to cold
temperatures makes one more susceptible to infections. Which was your point.
doc
wrote:
> >><
>
>***Oh for pete's sake. There's not a shred of evidence that exposure to cold
>temperatures makes one more susceptible to infections. Which was your point.
>
>
>Maggie
Madam, I don't know what your point it, but it isn't science. I'm
beginning to suspect that you're just one of those people who loves
the sound of her own voice.
I stated succinctly my thesis -- at your rather rude insistence -- and
I provided you with documentation. In reply, you cite some FAQ from a
self-help website, then you make an a priori pronouncement and
gratuitously restate my side of the argument.
You are either a troll or an impertinent fool. Either way, I don't
need you.
Find another sparring partner.
The Kentucky Wizard
consultations with my Joint Chiefs of Staff, being briefed by members of my
Cabinet and telephone conversations with various world leaders, I have come
to the following conclusions:
Before this turns into a "Loser Leave Town Match", no seems to have
mentioned the fact that in WHH's official portrait, his nose is slightly
reddish, to which, IIRC, was to reflect his physically ill state during his
brief term as president, or at least that is how the legend goes.
MadCow57
I was always told "don't worry about the embarrassment, just call an ambulance
and we'll worry about covering it up later."
Megan Marshak (sp?) was a fool.
MadCow57
>happened to him thought Elvis was African American from the way his skin
turned
>dark.
>>That's similar to what was said about him at the beginning of his career,
too.<< -- David Carson
Currently going around by by e-mail:
> You know the world is going crazy
> when the best rapper is a white guy,
> the best golfer is a black guy,
> France is accusing the US of arrogance,
> and Germany doesn't want to go to war.
MadCow57
Louis, what do you think? Snoshoo, please hold back whatever piercing remark
you have in mind.
David Samuel Barr
>
> Apologies if this has been posted 7 million times (slow comp) before
> but the ones I'm thinking about are:
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> Mama Cass Elliott-although I think the story of her choking to death
> on a ham sandwich has been refuted
It was refuted by the autopsy, which showed there was trace of no food
in her throat and that she had in fact died of a heart attack. Early
reports of her death suggested, without basis, that she had choked on
a sandwich, and as it circulated the story became further elaborated
and embellished, with the specification of the sandwich being a *ham*
one added either as a symbol of gluttony referring to her weight or as
an antisemitic jab. Despite the prompt debunking, this canard has
persisted for nearly 30 years.
Harry Krause
>>>Don't forget Nelson Rockefeller croaking in his mistress's bed.<< -- Maggie
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> I was always told "don't worry about the embarrassment, just call an ambulance
> and we'll worry about covering it up later."
>
Yeah, you do kind of remind me of what a Republican slut would be...old,
fat, ugly and stupid.
att...@aol.com
> I believe the charge is "engaging in consenual sex with a minor", however,
> the comparison is one take brain-dead assholes would choose, eh ?
>
> JHall.
That may have been the charge. As a criminal defense attorney I can
assure you that people often plea to lesser included charges. Larry
King interviewed the woman Polanski raped recently. From her
statement, there was nothing consensual about it. The court documents
at the time also support the fact this was rape. Before you defend
this pervert, and attack fellow posters on this site, maybe you should
do a little homework. Polanski's Oscar is a travesty.
dick clark
"dick clark" <richard...@res.raytheon.com> wrote in message
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> Ramon Navaro, by a dildo, sort of........
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> Virginia Rappe, by, well no one is sure.....
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> Madonna's career, by suicide?
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> Lewis Stone (Andy hardy's dad, Judge Hardy), hart attack after running
after
> ruffians
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> Jack (Addison Owen) Randall, old time cowboy star, thrown from his horse
(or
> hart attack, depending upon source)
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> "Mc5" <mc...@wsdwest.net> wrote in message
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> > Howard Hawks-Trips over his dog and fractures his skull.
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> > Tennessee Williams-Chokes to death on a bottle cap.
> >
> > Jack Cassidy-Sets his apartment on fire smoking in bed.
> >
> > Any other people who have had strange deaths like " slipping in
> > the shower " etc ? Allegedly Elvis croaked sitting on the toilet, but
> > I heard he was passed out on the floor in front of it.
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Cpl. O'Reilly
<kentuckywizardNOJU...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> If I am not mistaken, after a few days of decomposition, the skin, primarily
> the dermal layer, tends to "slip", or "slide". It is predominate in the
> cases of bodies pulled from the water, which speeds up this process. It's
> similar to your skin "peeling" away after a severe sunburn.
Thank you, Wiz. I didn't know it was a post-mortem thing, and what you
say makes sense.
Hyfler/Rosner
"Terry del Fuego" <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> respond.
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> (I'm ASSuming you did that deliberately--it's a good one either way.)
>
I got it. But ONLY because I watched Six Feet Under this week.
doc
<kentuckywizardNOJU...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Before this turns into a "Loser Leave Town Match", no seems to have
>mentioned the fact that in WHH's official portrait, his nose is slightly
>reddish, to which, IIRC, was to reflect his physically ill state during his
>brief term as president, or at least that is how the legend goes.
What are you saying, Sheriff? Is Harrison's red nose the telltale
mark of a chronic inebriate? A dypso? A tippler?
Or could it simply be the political or aesthetic statement of a wry or
bored portrait artist?
Perhaps Old Tippecanoe suffered from pemphigus? Perhaps his ruddy
complexion masked an underlying CHF or betrayed a chronic
hypertension? Perhaps his probiscus was a beacon of shattered
capillaries screaming to any trained eye that its sallow-faced owner
was being poisoned?
Perhaps those vertical creases transecting the earlobes (once
considered pathognomonic for heart disease) belie the popular image of
a robust and strong folk hero?
The questions are easy to frame. The answers are difficult to prove.
Harrison was, in truth, nothing like his popular image. He was the
scion of Virginia gentry, educated and refined, contemptuous of the
hoi polloi who eventually propelled him to the White House.
In short, he may have been Roger Ailes first client...
James Hall
My goodness another closed-minded knee-jerkin' dimwit & a lawyer
to boot.
I did not, in any form, manner, and/or matter, state that I defend, in any
form, manner and/or matter olde roman p.
Next, as a lawyer {do you still have a soul, just wondering ?}, you
should be, but not must be, aware that "stories {& as a lawyer you
realize, even if you do not understand "best story wins"}" change,
within minutes let alone decades.
Then you must truly realize, again while not really understanding, that
"a story" for a certain person or group immediately takes on a "new",
if not "a different" slant for our newest apostle TV, TV, TV, eh ?
Finally, for this post but not for the topic itself, how is the R.P. crime
different from the shrub's "war" crimes in light of travesties ?
We won't even get into the aspect of this war that you and most of your
fellow lawyers are most aware of and, in fact, is the prime focus of
your lives; greed.
Oh, instead of focusing on R.P. maybe you & your crowd should
concern yourselves with the americaaaans who practice screwing
your nation to any available wall with most of these true "terrorists"
working "within" your ??legal system??.
Methinks, as do many, many, many others you and your current
fascist admin, have their priorities somewhat ass backwards.
Ahhh who the fuck cares and pass me another brew.
JHall.