How Did You Hear Of These Deaths?
Way Back Jack
warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
from school.
Lars Eighner
and talented Way Back Jack broadcast on alt.obituaries:
> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
My companion was preparing to go to work with the TV on in the other room
and woke me when only the first plane had hit the first tower. Because
there had been a paraglider stunt that had gone wrong at the Statue of
Liberty a few days before, I thought at first that there was some chance it
was an aviation stunt gone wrong. The scale of the damage to the building
was not clear in the TV shots we were getting. I realized the excellence of
the weather made an accident very improbably. As I saw the second plane
approach in the televised picture, before the newscaster commented on it, I
knew what was happening.
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
I was in junior high school. The school was put on lockdown after lunch.
We had had at least one school bombing in my memory in Houston, which was
the only previous lockdown I could remember. Some kids did have 9-volt
transistor radios, but since it was after the free time in lunch period, it
was one class change before those with radios could consult them and start
spreading the news by rumor. Before school was out there was a PA
announcement. Some kids did cheer.
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
I was 11 and not interested in popular music, so I took no notice at the
time. Some months later a friend had "tribute" 45 titled (I think) "Three
Stars," and he explained it to me. I was in college before I had any real
appreciation of who Buddy Holly was. For some time I had him confused with
Roy Orbinson.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5919, 1993
297 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
mhead
"Way Back Jack" <he...@home.org> wrote in message
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> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
It was a case of literally wakeing up to a world gone mad.
I was asleep in Queens about 7 miles away when about 11am my son
came in and woke me saying that terrorists had blown up the world trade
centers and my job wanted me to come in early.
I put on the tv and in the space of 2 minutes got a compressed view of the
mornings events.
It was almost to much to take.
>
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
I was sitting in Mrs. Martin's 4th grade classroom at Williamson-Kennedy
when
Mrs. Preston the 6th grade teacher came running in to say the president
died.
We were then hearded down to the cafeteria to watch Walter Croncike on tv.
Classes were dismissed early and we all went home.
>
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
Don't know, i was 4.
JimCo
9/11: My wife and I were on a seniors' group tour going up the
Mississippi river. The group had spent overnight at a Holidome in
Davenport, Iowa. We embarked on a large riverboat the morning of 9/11,
and began the cruise up the river. It was a beautiful day; sunny,
clear blue sky, windless, etc.Our destination was Galena, Illinois,
where one of U. S. Grant's post civil war homes is located. About
halfway thru the cruise there began some strange mutterings and
uneasiness among the passengers. No one seemed certain as to what was
going on, but somehow rumors had begun about an airplane striking a
building in New York. Eventually some people with cell phones were
able to make reliable contact with friends and learned the horrible
truth. The tour director came around to each of us personally and
divulged the whole story, so as to avoid conflicting accounts. Someone
pointed out that there were absolutely no jet plane trails in the
completely clear sky; lending credibility to the account that the
government had suspended all flights of any kind but military. When we
reached Galena, my wife and I just spent the evening and night
watching the disaster unfold on the TV in our room. We sinply couldn't
believe our eyes and ears! Needless to say our entire group grew
completely silent and introspective for the remainder of this sad trip
JFK: I was in my office when the word got out. I'm not sure how I
initially heard about it, but when I tried to call my wife the entire
phone system was bogged down. No surprise.there. When I did reach her
she of course already knew about it from TV.
marcus
> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
>
viewing the home page of my local newspaper, when there was a bulletin
about a plane crashing into the WTC. I just assumed that it was a
small private plane gone terribly off course. I decided to turn on
the TV to CNN, and that's when I found out. I called my wife on her
cell phone, she was in line at a grocery store check-out, and she told
everyone there. I was listening to my car radio to a reporter who was
stationed at the Pentagon, when he suddenly stopped, and said, "Oh my
God, there was this terrible crash and explosion at the other end of
the building"...yep, he was broadasting live as the plane crashed into
the pentagon. The whole situation, with the "what's going to happen
next" feeling reminded me of when JFK was assassinated.
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
I was a 13 yr. old 8th grader on 11/23/63. My last period of the day
on Fridays was a study hall, and then we returned to our homerooms for
a weekly spelling test. While in the study period, we saw a teacher
come in and whisper something to our study hall teacher...all the
color left her face. Then the bell rang, and we went to our
homerooms...I heard something about Kennedy, but didn't really know
what was going on. My homeroom teacher told us the news that Kennedy
had been shot, but when the dismissal bell rang, we didn't know he was
dead. When I got home, I told my mother that I heard JFK had been
shot in Dallas, and she replied these five words that are forever
etched in my brain, "The poor man is dead."
>
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
I was in 3rd grade, and had no idea who Buddy Holly was. I didn't
discover him until after The Beatles conquered America
islanders
>
> My companion
Why not just say your boy toy?
peterpuck86
work. When I got to work, we watched one of the towers fall down.
JFK-I remember vaguely that something bad was happening but I was too
young to understand it.
Buddy Holly-Wasn't born yet.
ObamaNation, Yuck, It's Abomination
<peter...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Buddy Holly-Wasn't born yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly
(...)
Charles Hardin Holley (September 7, 1936 � February 3, 1959), known
professionally as Buddy Holly, (...)
(...)
Hidden Draggin
> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
I was at work (retail) and one of the guests told me
about a plane hitting the WTC. I called my brother
who happened to be home that day and he told me a
small plane had hit one of the towers.
I called back later and he told me a second plane had
hit the other tower. I had one immediate response:
"We are at war."
A little later, I called and asked him what was going
on. He replied, "They fell down."
I immediately responded with some sarcasm in my
voice. "What the fuck do you mean, they fell down?"
He countered, "THEY FELL DOWN."
This was unthinkable to me, seemingly impossible.
I had grown up in Northeast New Jersey and had watched
as they had been built as we were often plenty close
enough to see the skyline of "The City" (always "The City"
never "New York" or "New York City."
In Palm Beach Gardens, FL, my store was directly under the
airway feeding into the West Palm Beach traffic pattern and
the sudden lack of aircraft that started that day and lasted
for several days was really strange. As a former USAF Historian,
I noted that there was a serious increase in fighter traffic
in the skies that would last for a very long time.
In a strange way, I was happy that my father and my older
brother had died in the year or so previous. My father was
very connected to many of the people in the insurance
industry who worked in the towers and were killed. My
older brother was a bit of an unstable religious fanatic
connected to a fringe group and this would have sent him
raving into the stratosphere with talk of signs, portents,
and prophesy. It would have made him into a very visible
religious lunatic instead of inhabiting a serious, but private
world of various delusions.
Some part of me entertains a notion that this couldn't have
happened if they had both been alive but that is an emotional
thought, not a rational one.
--
Hidden Draggin - Gilbert Hansford
Don't join dangerous cults, practice safe sects!
http://twitter.com/hiddendraggin
http://hiddendraggin.posterous.com/
~M~
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
At work. Somebody came through and said something about the WTC being
bombed. We had a small TV and watched live coverage until the first tower
fell, then the owner told us to get back to work.
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
I wasn't even sperm yet.
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
Don Mclean told me about it.
--
"Anyone who clings to the historically untrue - and thoroughly immoral -
doctrine that violence never settles anything I would advise to conjure up
the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and the duke of Wellington and let them
debate it. The ghost of Hitler would referee. Violence, naked force, has
settled more issues in history than any other factor, and the contrary
opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forgot this basic
truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."
- Robert Heinlein
Lars Eighner
<185d972c-e9e8-4b05...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented islanders broadcast on alt.obituaries:
> On Nov 14, 11:26???am, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
>> My companion
> Why not just say your boy toy?
After more than 20 years it doesn't quite seem to convey the facts. Of
course, on 9/11 it would have been only about 13 or 14 years, so I guess
that would be something of a gray area.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5919, 1993
298 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Howard Glazer
off around 8:30 to hit the Internet for awhile, then get ready for a
9:30 doctor's appointment. My Internet time took me to no news sites, so
I still knew nothing when I got in the car around 9:20. That's when I
found out: The announcers on my usual music station back then were all
talking about what was happening in New York while watching TV in the
studio.
JFK: I was in second grade. I think the announcement that the president
had been killed came from my teacher, while the announcement that we
were being dismissed early came over the intercom from the principal's
office. I remember one thing vividly: Hearing some loudmouth kid yell
"Another communist dead!" from the back of the school bus on the way
home.
Buddy Holly: I was three years old and not aware of rock 'n' roll.
marcus
>
> JFK: I remember one thing vividly: Hearing some loudmouth kid yell
> "Another communist dead!" from the back of the school bus on the way
> home.
His nickname wasn't "Rush", was it?
busgal
were no cartoons on.
9-11 I was to fly from Austin Tx back to State College at 11 am. I had
not left for the airport and was lucky to find a friend to have lunch
with. It was the next Monday before I got home via Baltimore. I relate
to Alan jacksons line about finding anything on TV beyond the news.
Buddy Holly I was 5 months old.
teleflora
like 30 CNN Breaking News messages. Started reading from the first one.
Thought at first it was a horrible accident. Found out quickly it wasn't.
Turned on TV. I can't remember if I saw the first tower fall, but I know I
saw the second one. I saved those CNN messages for a long time.
JFK - 3rd Grade right after lunch. First time I saw grown ups cry.
Buddy Holly - too young. I remember where I was when I found out Elvis died.
On my way to the Missouri State Fair to see either Waylon Jennings or Willie
Nelson. God, what was I thinking.
Cindy
Wait - you jogged naked? Wasn't that kind of... uncomfortable?
"Way Back Jack" <he...@home.org> wrote in message
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La N
> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
I woke up in the morning, logged into my computer to see that I was
receiving a whole slew of CNN Breaking news alerts in my email. I turned on
the TV, and every station was covering the event. I called my sister, told
her to turn on the TV, and she called me a few minutes later wailing that
"the world is ending! the world is ending!".
>
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
I was in Elementary School in Canada. We were called into a school
gymnasium, were the news was broken, and classes were dismissed for the day.
In retrospect, I really don't understand - or cannot recall - why an
American president's death would cause our Canadian school to shut down for
the day, but that was cool. We got to play outside in the crisp red and
orange maple leaves for the rest of the day.
>
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
It didn't even register on my radar. Too young.
- nilita
islanders
>
> After more than 20 years it doesn't quite seem to convey the facts. �Of
> course, on 9/11 it would have been only about 13 or 14 years, so I guess
> that would be something of a gray area.
Then why use beard words like companion? Simply say the guy you are
plowing in the ass.
peterpuck86
Abomination) wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:07:38 -0800 (PST), peterpuck86
>
> >Buddy Holly-Wasn't born yet.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly
>
> (...)
>
> Charles Hardin Holley (September 7, 1936 – February 3, 1959), known
> professionally as Buddy Holly, (...)
>
> (...)
I wasn't born yet........
Nell
"Way Back Jack" <he...@home.org> wrote in message
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> 9/11: There's a path on my property that I used for jogging, naked in
> warm weather, except for running shoes, baseball cap, and radio ear
> phones. Anyway, the news interrupted the soft-rock show and I ran
> back to the house and told the old lady to turn on the tube.
>
I was in St. Joseph, Missouri talking on the phone to my daughter in South
Jersey. She told me that her (then) husband had been called in on his day
off as an EMT to go to NYC to help out. From the looks of things he said
there'd be at least 10,000 dead. Then I turned on the TV and saw Peter
Jennings reporting and the videos of the towers being hit. I had rabbit ears
on my set and only got the local ABC affliliate (the KC stations were too
fuzzy).
> JFK: I was cruising in a '58 Impala on Pulaski Hwy. when the news of
> the shooting interrupted Johnny Tillotson's "Talk Back Trembling
> Lips." Death had not yet been confirmed. Man, I had to tell someone
> so I stopped in this redneck dive in White Marsh. There were no
> patrons just an old hag behind the bar. She just stared without
> responding. "Aw ya old fart, if you don't believe me, turn on ya
> radio, if ya have one." Whereupon I left.
>
I was 14 and out of school that day. I was asleep and my mom woke me up to
tell me what was going on.
> Buddy Holly: I was in 9th grade and moms told me when I returned home
> from school.
I was 9 and half and don't recall hearing anything about it at the time. I
now live in north Iowa, a thirty minute drive from where his plane went
down.
Nell
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Way Back Jack <he...@home.org> wrote:
> 9/11
Read about it here.
> JFK
Too young to be aware of his death as such; watching his funeral on
the TV might be my earliest memory.
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone objects to any statement I make, I am
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it.-T. Lehrer
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AndyS
Andy comments:
Come on.... don't be an asshole.....
AndyS
JFK......
I was a freshman at NC State, in Room 248, Tucker dormitory......
My window was open , and I heard someone in the courtyard shout
'"They shot the son of a bitch"...... I didn't think any more about
it,
since I was not politically unmotivated, ,,,,, and didn't care... I
still don't ....
Who cares about one person dying 1500 miles away?...
(9/11)
I was sitting in my office at Raytheon, head of the Electromagnetics
Lab, and thought it was just some really bad accident.....I went back
to work...
Buddy Holly
I don't remeber anything about that. I didn't know who BH was.
To be honest about it, I still don't , except for the biographies on
the TV....Mildly interesting.....
" And they, since they were not the one dead, turned back to
their affairs" R. Frost
Marcus
> Andy writes:
>
> JFK......
> Who cares about one person dying 1500 miles away?...
Apparently, that was the view of the Bush Administration when they
calculatingly, yet needlessly, sent thousands of US soldiers to their
deaths in Iraq.
>
islanders
> �Come on.... don't be an asshole.....
Talk to him about that.
Hyfler/Rosner
"J.D. Baldwin" <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote
in message news:hdp2o7$q1u$2...@reader1.panix.com...
I agree. Fascinating reading. Many of us came to
alt.obituaries for our information. I heard about it first,
though, because a friend of mine was staying in the hotel at
the WTC. He called me and asked what he should do. I told
him to get the fuck out of there.* Then I turned on the TV.
I hadn't left for work yet. I can distinctly remember the
idiot on the news station saying after the second plane hit
that there must be serious problems at air traffic control
this morning.
My colleagues who get to work on time were rewarded with a
view from the window of the towers burnng and falling.
*a year later, he was able to pick up his travel bag, which
he left behind. It looked like it had been gone over with a
fine-tooth comb.
JFK
5th grade. Coming into the classroom after art class. The
loudspeaker was on and turned to the radio. We figured it
out from there. Very dramatic.
Buddy Holly
No memory.
ObamaNation is an Abomination
wrote:
>On Nov 15, 10:14=A0am, AndyS <andysha...@juno.com> wrote:
>> Andy writes:
>>
>> =A0 JFK......
>
>> Who =A0cares about one person dying =A01500 miles away?...
>
>Apparently, that was the view of the Bush Administration when they
>calculatingly, yet needlessly, sent thousands of US soldiers to their
>deaths in Iraq.
I suspect that Bush wanted to avenge his pappy's failure to get
Saddam.
Frankly, I don't know what the proper political-military response to
terrorism should be.
But the PC appeasement route that you cheek-spreading, leftist,
lunatic fringe, moonbat, girly-boys endorse ain't the way to go.
Alan Follett
I learned of the attack via an e-mail alert from the Chicago Tribune
when I checked my mail before leaving for work, maybe 6:15 Pacific Time.
I heard of the collapse of the towers on NPR while driving to work.
JFK:
I walked into the library at Lake View High School, Chicago, and
encountered a cluster of stunned librarians listening to the news on the
radio. I recall dropping my briefcase.
Buddy Holly:
Though I was a couple of days short of my 12th birthday at the time, I
don't have any specific memory of news coverage of the plane crash, or
of having any particular emotional reaction to it. Then as now, I guess
I just had no great sense of connection with the world of pop music. By
contrast, I do clearly remember the suicide of George Reeves a few
months later.
Alan Follett
danny burstein
I was watching Good Morning America (ABC network morning fluff show)
and they announced they had a breaking bulletin, that a plane
had struck the WTC, and they were cutting to their local station
in NYC for details.
Being a New Yorker, I was familiar with John Del Giorno (sp?), their
helicopter reporter. I watched as he showed the images of
the first tower, with the damage clearly visible, looking,
just like he said, of a "small plane striking the WTC".
I sent off an e-mail to my co-workers, most of whom were
getting ready to head to work in Manhattan. I wrote
that a small plane had struck the WTC, and that tv and
radio were still broadcasting....
Ten or so minutes later we learned the rest of the story.
--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dan...@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]
mhead
"Alan Follett" <AFol...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> Though I was a couple of days short of my 12th birthday at the time, I
> don't have any specific memory of news coverage of the plane crash, or
> of having any particular emotional reaction to it. Then as now, I guess
> I just had no great sense of connection with the world of pop music. By
> contrast, I do clearly remember the suicide of George Reeves a few
> months later.
>
> Alan Follett
>
the Buddy Holly i don't remember, but George Reeves i do.
i had just turned 5 a few weeks earlier, it was the first death
that i remember dealing with (as much as a 5 yo deals).
HankVC
retired. Can't recall for sure now, but it was either checking the
stock market or the news on the internet and seeing something about an
airplane crashing into a WTC building appeared on the screen. Turned
on the radio to see what was going on. Until the second airplane flew
into the second building, I thought we were seeing an airliner do a
repeat of the B-25 that flew into the Empire State Building. After
that I realized something bigger was going on.
Major aftermath was that my daughter's wedding had to be rescheduled,
as I (the father of the bride) and most of my family had to travel
from Colorado to Massachusetts for this. Even with it rescheduled a
month later, about half the invited guests from other places (Sweden,
Italy, Canada) felt able to overcome travel difficulties, so did not
attend. As it was, about half the US contingent drove 3-4 days to get
there.
JFK: I was living in Oregon then. Was preparing to teach an EE class
which required that I set up demonstration stuff in a classroom Fri.
afternoon for a Monday class. Somebody came into our faculty offices
and said something about JFK having been shot in Dallas. We got a
radio set up in the office area and got a student-demo TV hooked to an
antenna in one of the labs, so followed the news until his death was
announced. Classes dismissed at noon, and we just locked up the
building and went home.
The sequel came on Sunday when my wife and I were driving to the
church where she was organist and I was choirmaster, about an hour
drive. We were listening to the news about Oswald from where he was
being held, and were flabbergasted to hear that some guy had shot him.
Buddy Holly: Did not register on my radar. Not our type of music,
and probably would have responded "who he?" if someone said something
about it. I became aware of the accident as a general aviation crash
involving another Beech Bonanza/pilot crash reported in the aviation
press and probably didn't realize the significance (to others) of those
killed until years later. The accident report was one of several
motivators that convinced me that I needed an instrument rating (on my
pilot's license).
One not mentioned in the list, but just as significant as any of the
above: death of FDR, April 12, 1945. I was in 6th grade then. Was
at a friend's house listening to the 5-6PM "cereal soaps" (Superman,
Green Hornet, Tom Mix, etc.) as we did not have a working radio in our
house at the time (WWII shortages; we had three dead). Announcer
broke in to say that FDR had died in Warm Springs. When it became
clear that regular programming wasn't going to be resumed, I rode my
bicyle home, and told my mother that FDR had died. She simply did not
believe it and started to lecture me about making up stories like
this---until I was able to get her to call my friend's mother on the
phone.
I recall, in the days after, a discussion with some of my classmates
about what would be the effect of having a new president. All we'd
know all our lives was "President Roosevelt." That was only the
beginning of major changes in all of our lives that came with the end
of WWII. Six months later we had three working radios and I was in
another school in another place.
Hank
AndyS
> Apparently, that was the view of the Bush Administration when they
> calculatingly, yet needlessly, sent thousands of US soldiers to their
> deaths in Iraq.
>
Andy comments:
And the view of the Obama administration as well, who is increasing
the troop levels and endorsing GWB's policies. After a year of
Obama's rule, we have more troops in the middle east than GWB had....
and it's getting worse...
JimCo
> "J.D. Baldwin" <INVALID_SEE_...@example.com.invalid> wrote
> in messagenews:hdp2o7$q1u$2...@reader1.panix.com...
>
>
>
> > In the previous article, Way Back Jack <h...@home.org>
> > wrote:
> >> 9/11
>
> > Read about it here.
>
> I agree. Fascinating reading. Many of us came to
> alt.obituaries for our information. I heard about it first,
> though, because a friend of mine was staying in the hotel at
> the WTC. He called me and asked what he should do. I told
> him to get the fuck out of there.* Then I turned on the TV.
> I hadn't left for work yet. I can distinctly remember the
> idiot on the news station saying after the second plane hit
> that there must be serious problems at air traffic control
> this morning.
>
> My colleagues who get to work on time were rewarded with a
> view from the window of the towers burnng and falling.
>
> *a year later, he was able to pick up his travel bag, which
> he left behind. It looked like it had been gone over with a
> fine-tooth comb.
>
> JFK
>
> 5th grade. Coming into the classroom after art class. The
> loudspeaker was on and turned to the radio. We figured it
> out from there. Very dramatic.
>
> Buddy Holly
>
> No memory.
12/7/41: I guess that I must really be old (78) compared to the rest
of you folks! I even remember Pearl Harbor! I was 10 years old, in the
fifth grade when it happened. I don't remember much about what my
folks had to say about it that Sunday, but the next morning in school
our teacher immediately pointed it out. She said, in effect, that
something terrible had occurred and that a horrible war was going to
happen. I also recall that a year or so before that our teacher told
us about how sad and awful it was that the Germans had burned all
their books. I guess us kids didn't really get the import of that at
the time.
JimCo
Charlene
crashed into the WTC. I ran to the TV and turned it on, and it was
obvious from the size of the hole in the building that this was no
small plane. I suspected a large cargo jet. Then the other plane hit.
I didn't see the plane before it hit but it was obviously another big
aircraft. What made me shake my head was the anchor's suggestion that
it must be an air traffic control problem - as if air traffic
controllers actually controlled jets from the ground with some magical
box, or as if an airline transport pilot would accept a clearance that
took him anywhere near the WTC for any reason. I suspect it was more
denial than ignorance, but still - do people really think air traffic
controllers fly the planes?
JFK, Buddy Holly - too young.
For the 49s and under, who remembers where they were when they heard
about Princess Diana? I was in my living room watching Linden Soles on
CNN.
wd45
marcus
>
> For the 49s and under, who remembers where they were when they heard
> about Princess Diana? I was in my living room watching Linden Soles on
> CNN.
>
> wd45
Princess Diana's death was tragic. I thought she was nice and decent,
and did much for charity, but I didn't have a real connection to her.
On the other hand, three friends of mine, who are Anglophiles and love
the royals as if they are Brits themselves, were quite upset over her
death, and still are. I gave them my sincere sympathy, despite an
absence of grief on my part, because I fully remember acquaintances
and coworkers totally unsympathetic towards me when John Lennon was
assassinated... an event that shattered me. Their indifference, which
sometimes bordered on the cruel, was something I did not need as I
grieved.
I think it is important when icons, musicians, politicians, etc. pass
on, to realize that they are important to others, and not to diminish
that importance just because they didn't matter as much to me. For
example, the death of Michael Jackson, meant practically nothing to me
on a personal level, but I fully realize the impact he had on others,
and feel sorry for his fans who have lost someone who meant so much to
them
La N
> 9:11: I woke up to the 7 AM news that said a "small cargo plane" had
>
> For the 49s and under, who remembers where they were when they heard
> about Princess Diana? I was in my living room watching Linden Soles on
> CNN.
>
I had the TV on, can't remember what I was watching, just that the program
was interrupted by Breaking News of a serious crash not yet confirmed as to
whether she had died or not. My default concern, whether it be Princess
Diana or Michael Jackson or whomever, is "how are the kids going to cope
with this."
- nilita
Kris Baker
up from our home office and told me to turn the station,
because a plane had hit the WTC. I was bleary-eyed
and not focusing, and at the early stages, it seemed
like an odd accident, so I fell back asleep. A few
minutes later, hubby woke me up again and we watched
as the second plane hit. Then the Pentagon. Scariest
day of my life.
JFK: I was a high school junior, and as I walked out of the
noisy cafeteria with friends, we saw some girls crying in the
school hallway. I had a transistor radio with me, so we
went early to our next class (gym) where there was good
reception, we learned what had happened. Being young,
we figured it would all turn out OK. After gym, in our
next class, the TV was on and we learned the President
had died. School dismissed. Three days of hell, even
seeing Jack Ruby kill Oswald "live" on TV.
Buddy Holly: I was 11, and loved rock and roll (except
that horrid Elvis Presley, who I still detest). Holly was one
of my favorites. I cried.
Kris
Brad Ferguson
<rel...@rcn.com> wrote:
WTC
I was asleep. My wife, who'd gotten up early, woke me up and turned on
the bedroom TV. At that point, only the first plane had gone in. The
north tower had this gigantic hole in it, and the first thing I thought
was, how the hell are they going to fix that? My initial presumption
that this was some sort of horrible accident and that the tower might
be repairable seems horribly naive in retrospect.
JFK
Sixth grade. We were going through yet another reading-comprehension
test from a firm called SRA. They gave these stupid tests to
everybody, regardless of their reading level. The head nun got on the
p.a. and got the younger half of the school into the church and the
older half into the auditorium below it, where we were going to have a
regular root-for-Jesus assembly that afternoon anyway. She said
nothing about JFK. In the auditorium, the head nun tried to tell us
what was going on but she was crying, and so she was hard to
understand. I think we understood that JFK was dead, because I recall
trying to remember the vice president's name, and that it took me a
moment. The cross-eyed nun in charge of the sixth grade accused either
me or someone near me of smiling, but to this day I have no idea who
she was angry at because, well, she was really, really cross-eyed.
Then they brought us up to the church, above the auditorium, to say a
rosary. All I wanted to do was go home, ask my mom if she knew about
any of this, and try to get some news. Instead, we all sat in the
church for an hour while a priest from eastern Europe tried to tell us
what was going on (utterly failing to make himself clear) and led the
rosary-mantra for about an hour. Finally, after all of that, they let
us leave. Incredibly frustrating. You can date a lot of my
disaffection for Catholic stuff from that afternoon. Seriously.
Buddy Holly, Etc.
Don't remember it at all. George Reeves died about four months later,
though, and I do remember that pretty well.
Brad Ferguson
Follett <AFol...@webtv.net> wrote:
> Buddy Holly:
>
> <snip> By contrast, I do clearly remember the suicide of George Reeves a few
> months later.
There must be something to this. I said the same thing without having
read your post first.
I guess it largely depends on who and what were important to us at the
time.
Brad Ferguson
<nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had the TV on, can't remember what I was watching, just that the program
> was interrupted by Breaking News of a serious crash not yet confirmed as to
> whether she had died or not. My default concern, whether it be Princess
> Diana or Michael Jackson or whomever, is "how are the kids going to cope
> with this."
We had ABC on for some reason; I guess we'd been watching something.
The anchor (Jeanne Meserve, I think) was so incompetent that my wife
and I had been watching for forty minutes or so before the anchor
bothered to recap the story, which was when she finally mentioned that
Diana was dead. All we'd known was that there'd been some sort of
accident.
Some channel put up BBC World Service not long afterward, and we stayed
with that. Night and day.
Michael O'Connor
my alarm clock read 9:11 AM when I awoke) and got online to check on a
bunch of resumes I had sent out and was waiting for a response on.
When my AOL screen came up they showed the WTC on fire and I ran to
the TV and stayed glued to it for about four days.
JFK - It was about three months before I was born.
Buddy Holly - Before I was born.
Elvis - I didn't find out about the death of Elvis until about a week
after he died. We were on vacation at a lake house in the middle of
the Allegheny forest without TV or radio or news or contact with
others for about 8-9 days. The car radio did not work either. It
wasn't until after we got back home and turned on the TV that we found
out about Elvis. I think he died on a Tuesday early morning and it
was the following Monday I found out about it. I remember the next
day going thru the newspapers that had accumulated on the front porch
during the week we were gone to see what else I missed and was more
upset that Groucho Marx had passed away a couple days after Elvis than
I was with Elvis dying.
BobF
[Default] On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:15:14 -0800, AFol...@webtv.net (Alan
Follett) magnanimously proffered:
9/11:
My wife and I had slept in late and I didn't get up to my studio until
late morning when I phoned an office supply place about an Aeon chair
I was thinking about buying. I'd spoken to the owner a few days
earlier, only this time he started by saying, "My condolences to you
and your countrymen."
I asked why and he suggested that I turn on the television.
I was still in my pj's and my wife was still in bed and we virtually
lived in front of the bedroom television for the next five or six
hours.
JFK:
A friend and I wee in a Whitefront Store choosing my first hi-fi
stereo record player when someone over in the television section
started sobbing. The aisle was lined on both sides by working
televisions and the coverage started off on the three networks and
then they all had the same coverage.
We stayed and watched until the chilling announcement that JFK was
dead.
Just the other day my wife and I were discussing the upcoming
anniversary of JFK's assassination and I told my wife that 22 November
1963 was the day I lost my innocence and the world as I knew it
changed forever.
Buddy Holly:
I heard the news on the radio the morning after the crash and was
shocked to hear that The Big Bopper and Richie Vallens had also been
killed. That's because I'd seen them perform live at POP (Pacific
Ocean Park) a few weeks (or maybe it was months) earlier.
--
"Go stick your head in the toilet
and get more brains in there.
- From "The Sayings of Roy"
David Carson
wrote:
>"J.D. Baldwin" <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote
>in message news:hdp2o7$q1u$2...@reader1.panix.com...
>>
>> In the previous article, Way Back Jack <he...@home.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 9/11
>>
>> Read about it here.
>
>
>I agree. Fascinating reading. Many of us came to
>alt.obituaries for our information.
What I will never forget about reading in a.o. after 9/11 is the
discussion/argument between Erik and Loki concerning whether Erik did or
did not buy socks.
David Carson
--
Why do you seek the living among the dead? -- Luke 24:5
Who's Alive and Who's Dead
http://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com
busgal
islanders
\
> What I will never forget about reading in a.o. after 9/11 is the
> discussion/argument between Erik and Loki concerning whether Erik did or
> did not buy socks.
>
> David Carson
> --
> Why do you seek the living among the dead? -- Luke 24:5
> Who's Alive and Who's Deadhttp://www.whosaliveandwhosdead.com
I did buy about 20 bags of socks.
marcus
> In article <6395-4B003722-2...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, Alan
>
> Follett <AFoll...@webtv.net> wrote:
> > Buddy Holly:
>
> > <snip> By contrast, I do clearly remember the suicide of George Reeves a few
> > months later.
>
> There must be something to this. I said the same thing without having
> read your post first.
>
> I guess it largely depends on who and what were important to us at the
> time.
I remeber George Reeves death. I was 8 or 9 yrs old, and a big DC
comics fan, and enjoyed the Superman TV show as well. What I will
never forget is the huge thick black headline on the cover of either
the New York Daily News or the Daily Mirror:
SUPERMAN DEAD
Very surreal.
The first big celebrity death that affected me at all was Marilyn
Monroe in 1962 when I was 12 years old. My Dad was driving us, from
our home in CT, to my first major league baseball game at the Polo
Grounds (the first year of the NY Mets). It was a Sunday morning, and
I think that Marilyn had died the night before. We were listening to
the car radio when I heard the news about her death. I was taken
aback to think that someone so beautiful, fresh, and vital could be
dead.
One must remember that back then, with only print media, radio
stations, and three major TV networks (which signed off broadcasting
at night), news didn't travel as quickly, and often times was very
local in scope.
In fact, it was the media coverage of JFK's assassination that
increased news coverage.
Marcus
I'm a very big fan of the Marx Brothers, and remember well that Elvis
and Groucho died the same week. I was quite sad about Groucho, but
Elvis' death was a shocker.
I'm not real fan of Elvis, but I appreciate who he was, what he did,
and enjoy a lot of his music. I was 27 when Elvis died, and have a
good friend who is several years older than me...and a very big Elvis
fan. He called me that afternoon to tell me the news...he just
couldn't believe it. I comforted him the best I could...three years
later he did the same for me when Lennon was assassinated.
BobF
[Default] On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:07:22 -0800 (PST), busgal
<busg...@gmail.com> magnanimously proffered:
>I was sitting here and online when I heard about Diana.
I'll never forget that I was listening to my office radio when the
first reports of the accident came in. And even though it was first
reported that Princess Diana had only been slightly injured I had a
bad feeling about it.
It was the weekend here in NZ so there was nothing further reported
and absolutely nothing on television, so I used RealPlayer on my
computer to tune into BCC radio and followed the flow of reports right
up until the shocking announcement that she was dead.
It really was difficult to believe and my first thought was that her
death had been orchestrated by the British secret service to ensure
that the mother of a future monarch didn't marry a Muslim and
guarantee she could no longer embarrass the interests that make money
from land mines.
--
"Gene has different genes than Roger's jeans, although Gene was married
to Jean, and Roger loves the Dodger(s)."
Evan Hulka
> WTC
>
> I was asleep. My wife, who'd gotten up early, woke me up and turned on
> the bedroom TV. At that point, only the first plane had gone in. The
> north tower had this gigantic hole in it, and the first thing I thought
> was, how the hell are they going to fix that? My initial presumption
> that this was some sort of horrible accident and that the tower might
> be repairable seems horribly naive in retrospect.
I don't think so. My recollection is that shortly before 9/11, there
had been an incident in Florida where an incompetent pilot crashed
into a top floor of a skyscraper, and my first thought at the first
CNN news alert was that something like that had happened again. At the
time it didn't seem any more improbable than what actually did happen.
Hulka
Hyfler/Rosner
"Michael O'Connor" <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> Elvis -
This is so fitting. I was in Yankee Stadium. The Yankees
blew a five run lead in the top of the ninth and came back
to win it with a two-run walk-off homer by Chambliss.
Final score: 11-10
We were in the traffic jam that was the Yankee Stadium
parking lot. We turned on the radio to hear the news that
Elvis had died.
BobF
[Default] On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:22:17 -0500, "Hyfler/Rosner"
<rel...@rcn.com> magnanimously proffered:
I was at work when the news of Elvis' death made the rounds and the
type of reactions of my colleagues seemed to depend on age.
John Lennon
I learned of John Lennon's murder while I was helping a professional
painter paint the intricate plaster arch entrance of the music room in
the old Georgian villa my wife and I were restoring in Auckland.
The painter and I were so stunned that we decided to stop work for the
day andI felt that part of me died with Lennon.
--
"It's not that I'm afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens." - Woody Allen
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wax-up and drop-in of Surfing's Golden Years: <http://www.surfwriter.net>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Brad Ferguson
<b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:
> John Lennon
>
> I learned of John Lennon's murder while I was helping a professional
> painter paint the intricate plaster arch entrance of the music room in
> the old Georgian villa my wife and I were restoring in Auckland.
>
> The painter and I were so stunned that we decided to stop work for the
> day andI felt that part of me died with Lennon.
John Lennon
First heard of it on WCBS Newsradio 88 while I was shaving the next
morning. I had to stop because I couldn't see the mirror anymore.
John Paul I
My friend was working overnight at the AP when they got word of it
there. She called me. It must have been three in the morning. "Wha?"
I said.
"The Pope's dead."
"I *know* that."
"No, no. The *new* one."
I put the radio on, and a moment or two later CBS did an interrupt with
Mitchell Krauss. Looking back, that was the last time I ever went
first to the radio when news was breaking.
David Carson
wrote:
>On Nov 15, 9:13?pm, David Carson <d...@neosoft.com> wrote:
>> What I will never forget about reading in a.o. after 9/11 is the
>> discussion/argument between Erik and Loki concerning whether Erik did or
>> did not buy socks.
>
>I did buy about 20 bags of socks.
I never doubted you.
BobF
[Default] On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:18:48 -0500, Brad Ferguson
<thir...@frXOXed.net> magnanimously proffered:
>John Lennon
>
>First heard of it on WCBS Newsradio 88 while I was shaving the next
>morning. I had to stop because I couldn't see the mirror anymore.
>
>
>John Paul I
>
>My friend was working overnight at the AP when they got word of it
>there. She called me. It must have been three in the morning. "Wha?"
>I said.
>
>"The Pope's dead."
>
>"I *know* that."
>
>"No, no. The *new* one."
>
>I put the radio on, and a moment or two later CBS did an interrupt with
>Mitchell Krauss. Looking back, that was the last time I ever went
>first to the radio when news was breaking.
A few days before Blessed Pope John XXIII died I was sitting on the
sofa of a friend's house in Malibu and sketched a profile of his
likeness on a page in my notebook.
When I heard the news that he'd died, I looked at it again and
wondered what made me do the sketch in the first place.
Then, when I saw the cover of the June 07, 1963 issue Time magazine, I
wondered even more, because the likeness of my sketch and the photo
they'd chosen was uncanny.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B0002NQH84/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=284507&s=kitchen
--
"What a fine comedy this world would be if one did not play a part in it!" - Diderot
rwalker
>In article <7mc3ruF...@mid.individual.net>, BobF
><b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote:
>
>> John Lennon
>>
>> I learned of John Lennon's murder while I was helping a professional
>> painter paint the intricate plaster arch entrance of the music room in
>> the old Georgian villa my wife and I were restoring in Auckland.
>>
>> The painter and I were so stunned that we decided to stop work for the
>> day andI felt that part of me died with Lennon.
>
>
>
>John Lennon
>
>First heard of it on WCBS Newsradio 88 while I was shaving the next
>morning. I had to stop because I couldn't see the mirror anymore.
>
>
I was in my first semester of graduate school at Kent State
University (and I remember where I was when I heard about what
happened there). I was listening to the radio while studying for
final exams when the DJ came on and announced that Lennon had been
shot.
J.D. Baldwin
In the previous article, Brad Ferguson <Brad Ferguson> wrote:
> We had ABC on for some reason;
My story of "How I heard about Diana" has to be a really common one,
but I never really hear people tell it. I was watching Saturday Night
Live on NBC. They were doing Weekend Update (? - pretty sure) and
then they cut in with the NBC "BREAKING NEWS" card and music. "Oh,
here we go," both my wife and I thought, because SNL has used this
device a few times over the years.
I don't remember how long it took before we realized this wasn't a
joke. Probably not real long. Of course when they cut in, they kept
saying "injured," but I remember remarking they wouldn't have cut in
to a running show for "injured" -- they must have heard she was dead
and they were just trying to get confirmation before actually saying
it. I could tell they were *dying* (um ...) to say it, because they
were talking about the "somber mood" of the hospital staff and stuff
like that. Finally, the confirmation came, and I thought, "Hm. Bet
it's been on a.o for ten minutes," and watched another 30 minutes or
so to see if anything else interesting broke before rolling over and
going to sleep.
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone objects to any statement I make, I am
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it.-T. Lehrer
***~~~~----------------------------------------------------------------------
R H Draney
>
>John Paul I
>
>My friend was working overnight at the AP when they got word of it
>there. She called me. It must have been three in the morning. "Wha?"
>I said.
>
>"The Pope's dead."
>
>"I *know* that."
>
>"No, no. The *new* one."
Strange couple of months...and then a few years later:
"Brezhnev's dead"..."Cernenko's dead"..."Andropov's dead"...sheesh!...r
--
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
Kris Baker
My 5-year-old and I were up a bit late, watching TV, when
Walter Cronkite came on and said that John Lennon had been
shot. I was stunned.
For my daughter, Lennon's death was the biggest tragedy
she could remember, until 9/11.
Kris
Kris Baker
news:7mc0mvF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> [Default] On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:07:22 -0800 (PST), busgal
> <busg...@gmail.com> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>I was sitting here and online when I heard about Diana.
>
> I'll never forget that I was listening to my office radio when the
> first reports of the accident came in. And even though it was first
> reported that Princess Diana had only been slightly injured I had a
> bad feeling about it.
We were in Sun Valley, Idaho -- and heard the initial bulletins
on TV....increasingly dire circumstances, with images of that
car in the tunnel, and not much happening. Then, there was
a pause, and we heard she'd been taken to a hospital....and
soon, the death announcement.
That was shocking as hell. 36-years-old, bam. Gone.
The next morning, most people still didn't know about it,
but the fancy cars started heading for the airport. Arnold
and Maria had just arrived the day before, and were leaving....
as were lots of execs.
Kris
islanders
>
> "Brezhnev's dead"..."Cernenko's dead"..."Andropov's dead"...sheesh!...r
Must have been tough losing three of your heroes in such a short time.
Brigid Nelson
> "BobF" <b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote in message
> news:7mc0mvF...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> [Default] On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:07:22 -0800 (PST), busgal
>> <busg...@gmail.com> magnanimously proffered:
>>
>>> I was sitting here and online when I heard about Diana.
>>
>> I'll never forget that I was listening to my office radio when the
>> first reports of the accident came in. And even though it was first
>> reported that Princess Diana had only been slightly injured I had a
>> bad feeling about it.
>
> We were in Sun Valley, Idaho -- and heard the initial bulletins
> on TV....increasingly dire circumstances, with images of that
> car in the tunnel, and not much happening. Then, there was
> a pause, and we heard she'd been taken to a hospital....and
> soon, the death announcement.
I was at work, one of my co-workers phoned in to tell us about the
accident with the detail that "Diana had walked away unhurt while
everyone else in the car was dead". I was home in time to see the death
announcement televised live.
b
Howard Glazer
St. Charles, where I'd been covering a holiday basketball tournament for
the Stuttgart Daily Leader. I was listening to radio coverage of the
Patriots-Dolphins game when I heard the announcement, probably around
the same time the TV viewers were listening to Howard Cosell call John
"probably the most famous of all the Beatles." The radio crew said
nothing as awkward, or as memorable. The next day was pretty rough too:
My boss told me I was being let go after the end of the year. I remember
driving around eastern Arkansas for hours, trying to figure out what I
was going to do next while listening to WHBQ Memphis play nothing but
Lennon/Beatles songs.
Princess Di: I was with my current employer as a copy editor, hanging
around the newsroom after the paper had gone to press. The initial
reports were just beginning to be fleshed out as I watched the office
TV. We weren't on the Web yet, so our readers would have to wait more
than 24 hours to read anything about her death.
R H Draney
>
>On Nov 16, 2:28=EF=BF=BDam, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Brezhnev's dead"..."Cernenko's dead"..."Andropov's dead"...sheesh!...r
>
>Must have been tough losing three of your heroes in such a short time.
I'm far from the only one at the time who had the thought "why don't they try
picking someone for the job who doesn't already have one foot in the grave?"...r
Charlene
> John Lennon: I was on Arkansas Hwy. 11 driving back to Stuttgart from
> St. Charles, where I'd been covering a holiday basketball tournament for
> the Stuttgart Daily Leader. I was listening to radio coverage of the
> Patriots-Dolphins game when I heard the announcement, probably around
> the same time the TV viewers were listening to Howard Cosell call John
> "probably the most famous of all the Beatles." The radio crew said
> nothing as awkward, or as memorable. The next day was pretty rough too:
> My boss told me I was being let go after the end of the year. I remember
> driving around eastern Arkansas for hours, trying to figure out what I
> was going to do next while listening to WHBQ Memphis play nothing but
> Lennon/Beatles songs.
I cannot remember when or how I heard about John Lennon's death. It
certainly wasn't from Monday Night Football - we didn't watch football
(least of all US football) at home. I was sixteen and in Grade Twelve
so it should have had some kind of impact, but I simply don't
remember.
I do remember about three months later hearing this huge celebration
in the hallway of our high school after the 1 PM bell. Dozens of guys
whooping it up in the hallways celebrating Reagan being shot. Classy.
wd45
Brigid Nelson
> On Nov 16, 1:00 pm, hmg...@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) wrote:
>> John Lennon: I was on Arkansas Hwy. 11 driving back to Stuttgart from
>> St. Charles, where I'd been covering a holiday basketball tournament for
>> the Stuttgart Daily Leader. I was listening to radio coverage of the
>> Patriots-Dolphins game when I heard the announcement, probably around
>> the same time the TV viewers were listening to Howard Cosell call John
>> "probably the most famous of all the Beatles." The radio crew said
>> nothing as awkward, or as memorable. The next day was pretty rough too:
>> My boss told me I was being let go after the end of the year. I remember
>> driving around eastern Arkansas for hours, trying to figure out what I
>> was going to do next while listening to WHBQ Memphis play nothing but
>> Lennon/Beatles songs.
>
> I cannot remember when or how I heard about John Lennon's death. It
> certainly wasn't from Monday Night Football - we didn't watch football
> (least of all US football) at home. I was sixteen and in Grade Twelve
> so it should have had some kind of impact, but I simply don't
> remember.
I saw it on MNF - my mom never missed watching a game and she would even
buy the football preview issues of Playboy. I didn't know she bought
them until I stumbled across two or three of them tucked into the drawer
in the bottom of the china hutch. My mom seemed to be a little upset
about the announcement, I don't really know if she was a fan or not. I
wouldn't discover the Beatles for three years yet, I had no idea who
John Lennon was. I was 15 when he died, and yes, I was living under a rock.
brigid
busgal
afternoon.
busgal
> I was in my dorm room at the PA Voc Rehab in Johnstown that
> afternoon.
Lennon
Jane Margaret Laight
9/11: I had just landed at Heathrow Airport when the person who was
there to pick me up ran to me, grabbed me and almost carried me to the
waiting car--didn't pick up my luggage until later. When I was told
what happened, I went into shock--I lost five friends who worked in
the Pentagon that day.
JFK--too young
Buddy Holly--not born yet
I remember vividly Lynyrd Skynyrd (10/20/77)--heard it on the 6 am
news--I was in high school and loved them--I cried for days. My
sisters cried over Elvis; Lennon didn't connect with me.
Pearl Harbor--my parents married that Saturday, December 6th; my
uncle, who had been stationed as part of the Marine detachment at
Pearl (I think he was on the West Virginia, but am not certain), had
served out his hitch and had been my dad's best man at the wedding. My
folks were on their way to Niagara Falls for their honeymoon and my
uncle was just laying around my grandma's house and was preparing to
enter college in January--once he heard of the attack, he hitched from
Raleigh NC to Norfolk VA and re-enlisted in the Marine Corps. My dad
followed him in the service the following May.
JML
Michael O'Connor
> I saw it on MNF - my mom never missed watching a game and she would even
> buy the football preview issues of Playboy. I didn't know she bought
> them until I stumbled across two or three of them tucked into the drawer
> in the bottom of the china hutch. My mom seemed to be a little upset
> about the announcement, I don't really know if she was a fan or not. I
> wouldn't discover the Beatles for three years yet, I had no idea who
> John Lennon was. I was 15 when he died, and yes, I was living under a rock.
>
I also learned about the Lennon murder from Howard Cosell.
Here is a clip from 1974 of a MNF game and John Lennon shows up at the
broadcast booth and Cosell talks with him a bit.
Michael O'Connor
was a Monday, but the weekend before we moved from Pittsburgh to South
Carolina, and the movers showed up early Monday morning and unloaded
the moving truck left at noon and we spent the rest of the day
unpacking. We were so busy we never thought about turning on the TV
or radio. The next day it was my first day at the new school and
after I got there it was all the teachers and students were talking
about, and that is how I found out.
Oklahoma City I didn't find out until about ten hours after it
happened. I had just moved to Detroit two weeks earlier, and was in a
GM Engineering training class that was an all day class where we had
no access to radio or TV and they brought in lunch so nobody left the
facility during the day. It wasn't until after I got back to my motel
room and turned on the TV that I saw what happened.
Loki
<jml2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>9/11:
I was watching a tape or TIVO or something of Letterman or Leno from
the night before while reading the morning paper and sharing coffee in
bed with my wife as we do every morning. She went to take a shower and
I switched on the news and it was just the WTC with smoke billowing
out of it. My first thought was that it was Arnold, or Bruce, or
someone else promoting their latest movie. But there was no dialogue.
No cutting away from the scene. And as it flashed "Live from NYC"
across the bottom of the screen the horror set in.
>
>JFK
I was in first grade and along with a friend I was walking home from
school for lunch down G Street. We reached his house and his mother
was at the top of the stairs and said "They shot President Kennedy."
Since I watched guys get shot on TV on a regular basis, it didn't
register. When I got home my father was crying and he explained that
the President was dead and was never going to be alive again. I think
that was also my first awareness of mortality.
>
>Buddy Holly
15 months old. My memory isn't that good.
> Lennon
That one hit me hard. There is a long involved story that started the
night before when for the only time in my life I went home with a girl
I met in a bar. To her apartment which was about 10 miles from where I
lived. And the next morning she was making plans as to what we were
going to do together over Christmas, the summer, etc. etc. and I was
trying to figure out how to get home (she had taken me home in her
car... I had none at the time) without letting her know where I lived
because I really didn't want to see her again.
So I had her drop me off a mile from my house and climbed a lot of
fences so that she couldn't follow me. And all day long I felt like a
real shit for not having been honest with her. Her name was Natalie
Gross, and I am sure that I remember more about the experience than
she does.
I figured the day could not get any worse. Then that night I went to
the store to pick up some hot dogs and red onions (the details are
frozen in my memory) and when I got home my room mate was watching the
football game and said "Did you hear? Someone shot John Lennon."
I asked how he was and was told that he was dead. I was stunned, but
my room mate was more interested in the football game.
Michael O'Connor
> I remember vividly Lynyrd Skynyrd (10/20/77)--heard it on the 6 am
> news--I was in high school and loved them--I cried for days. My
> sisters cried over Elvis; Lennon didn't connect with me.
The city I live in, Greenville SC, was where Skynyrd had their final
concert before the crash. The venue where the concert was held, the
Greenville Memorial Auditorium, held maybe three thousand people, but
over the past almost thirty years I have talked to thousands of people
who SWEAR they were at that concert. The funny part is when I ask
them if they still have their ticket stub to prove it, none of them
ever do.
marcus
Of all the tragic killings and deaths, the ones that stunned me, and
had the most impact were JFK, RFK, Kent State, Lennon, Challenger,
Oklahoma City, 9/11, and Tim Russert.
I was driving home on a beautiful country road when I heard about the
bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The only time I've
ever pulled off the road, and cried...I just couldn't believe that a
human being was capable of doing something like that to other human
beings, especially with children involved.
rwalker
wrote:
Another one that has always stuck in my mind was the fire that killed
the Apollo 1 crew. I was just a kid, but in those days, astronauts
were like gods. That one affected me far more than did the Challenger
or Columbia disasters.
Brad Ferguson
<rwa...@despammed.com> wrote:
When that happened, ABC interrupted its programming and put up an index
card with a few lines typed on it, all caps: There was a fire, the
astronauts are dead. No sound, not even room sound. They did the same
thing when Martin Luther King was murdered.
A long time ago, now.
Michael Coyle
9/11: When I came downstairs, my father's wife said something to me about
planes crashing into the WTC. It didn't register until I saw the pictures
on CNN. I then left for a doctor's appointment. During the drive in, the
news came in that a plane had crashed into the Pentagon. I thought "My God,
what next?" Just as I arrived at the doctor's it was reported that one of
the towers had collapsed; this seemed incomprehensible to me -- surely just
above the crash site, not the whole building. When I returned to my car and
turned on the radio again, the other tower had just collapsed, and yes, both
towers were completely gone.
I then went to the IHOP for breakfast. Across the street was a railroad
station and they were playing patriotic music on the PA system, including
Kate Smith's "God Bless America." I later listened to President Bush in the
car. I tried calling the local blood bank to arrange for a donation but the
lines were totally jammed and it was impossible to get through.
That night I got two calls from friends in California, making sure I was all
right. My two thoughts at the time were, Of course I'm all right -- my home
on Long Island was 40 miles from Lower Manhattan; and How did these calls
even get through? (The Verizon building was badly damaged by falling
debris, causing massive phone outages.) All in all, a day I'll never
forget.
JFK: I was only 5 and don't remember much. Maybe I saw a little of the
funeral. I would have been too young to understand at the time anyway.
Buddy Holly: Only 1 at the time. As someone here said, I found out later
from Don McLean.
I have a couple of other similar memories. One night when I waqs 10, I was
sitting at the kitchen table. (Our family life took place in the kitchen,
and not just during mealtimes.) My mom got a phone call from her best
friend, and she told us that Martin Luther King had just been shot. Then a
couple of months later Robert Kennedy was killed. I remember watching the
funeral and being pretty broken up about it.
The only other "significant" death that affected me was John Lennon's. My
mom told me about it the next morning over breakfast. I was already pretty
bummed out because I was going into an EE exam in an hour that I was sure to
fail, being totally unprepared. Of course, all the radio stations were
playing nothing but Lennon and Beatles songs that day and the only escape
was just to shut the damn thing off. So it was a pretty miserable day all
around.
- Michael
BobF
[Default] On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:09:37 -0500, "Michael Coyle"
<mNOfSP...@optonlinePLEASE.net> magnanimously proffered:
>During the drive in, the
>news came in that a plane had crashed into the Pentagon. I thought "My God,
>what next?"
A friend of mine was at a production meeting at the National
Geographic Society when the Pentagon was hit. The meeting was halted
and the building evacuated, leaving Peter outside with no way to get
back to his hotel except to walking across the bridge over the Potomac
to his hotel. He told me that he could see the smoke billowing from
the Pentagon as he walked back to his hotel.
Long story short ... since he couldn't fly back to California and all
the rental cars had been snapped up, he had to rent a van and decided
to shoot a documentary of his cross country journey post-9/11. Must
ask him what he's done with that project.
--
A Roy joke:
"ROTFLMAO!
What if he doesn't have a preference for sheep? <g>
How about ewe (you)?"
- From "The Sayings of Roy"
Kris Baker
"BobF" <b...@surfwriter.net.not> wrote in message
>
> [Default] On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:09:37 -0500, "Michael Coyle"
> <mNOfSP...@optonlinePLEASE.net> magnanimously proffered:
>
>>During the drive in, the
>>news came in that a plane had crashed into the Pentagon. I thought "My
>>God,
>>what next?"
>
> A friend of mine was at a production meeting at the National
> Geographic Society when the Pentagon was hit. The meeting was halted
> and the building evacuated, leaving Peter outside with no way to get
> back to his hotel except to walking across the bridge over the Potomac
> to his hotel. He told me that he could see the smoke billowing from
> the Pentagon as he walked back to his hotel.
>
> Long story short ... since he couldn't fly back to California and all
> the rental cars had been snapped up, he had to rent a van and decided
> to shoot a documentary of his cross country journey post-9/11. Must
> ask him what he's done with that project.
Two friends of ours were in the Pentagon when it was hit. They
didn't know each other, so we couldn't check up on either and
find out about both. It took days before we learned that they were
both fine, and had worked in the side furthest from the attack.
That reminds me: I need to talk to our neighbors, and see if
they have a copy of Don's letter about the events. I've misplaced
mine.
Kris
Jim Beaver
In Los Angeles, my wife and I were up feeding our 3-week-old daughter when
the phone rang. I answered, and my sister-in-law in Maryland cried, "Turn
on the TV!" It had already transpired by then, the collapses, so we were
seeing replays. (I read later that many children were traumatized by the
multiple replays, which led them to believe dozens of buildings were coming
down all around the country.) I remember looking at my newborn child and
thinking, "What have we brought her into?"
JFK:
I was in 8th grade at Bowie Jr. High School in Irving, Texas, not much
farther from the assassination site than from the house where Lee Harvey
Oswald had lived with his family. Coming back from lunch, it seemed
something was going on, and my English teacher was crying. We settled into
class (world history) and the teacher said something about the president
having been shot. I didn't think of it as a fatal thing, automatically
presuming he'd been winged or something. Then the principal came on the
intercom and said the president was dead. A kid to the side of me yelled,
"Yea!" and the kid in front of him turned around and punched him. They
didn't let us out of school early, and they tried to maintain normal
classes. When we got on the bus to go home that afternoon, some kid told
what may well have been the first JFK assassination joke: What did Caroline
and John-John get for Christmas? A jack-in-a-box.
Buddy Holly:
I didn't know who Holly was at the time of his death. I learned of his
death and who he was from a movie magazine in which I was reading an article
about George Reeves, who had died a little more than four months later.
(Reeves's death I heard about while watching the Superman TV show. My dad
came home from work during the show, sat with me for the remainder, and then
told me. Did I mention I had a cool dad?)
Jim Beaver