Healthwatch: Cash

[Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest]

According to an article on LaptopMag.com, the death of cash will be life changing. They list eight facets of daily life that will change.

1. Tipping
2. Panhandling
3. Lap Dancing
4. Muggings
5. Church Collection Plates
6. Gambling
7. Tax Avoidance
8. ATMs
I guess their editors don't know how to count,
9. Coin Collecting

http://blog.laptopmag.com/death-of-cash

[R H Draney]

Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest filted:

I love any development that brings churches and lapdancing together....r


--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[Brad Ferguson]

In article <93bc02c1-5752-4c00...@googlegroups.com>,

Cash isn't going anywhere. The traffic in illegal but highly desirable
goods demands cash.

I was struck by the bit about Oren's Daily Roast (which I guess sells
coffee) adding a dollar tip to every order. I generally don't tip for
counter service, and I wouldn't patronize a place that forced me to do
it. OTOH I tip 25% at the place where my wife and I get breakfast on
the weekends, and the waitstaff has learned to just leave the coffeepot
at our table.

[Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest]

On Friday, April 26, 2013 4:16:44 PM UTC-7, Brad Ferguson wrote:
> In article <93bc02c1-5752-4c00...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > According to an article on LaptopMag.com, the death of cash will be life
>
> > changing. They list eight facets of daily life that will change.
>
> >
>
> > 1. Tipping
>
> > 2. Panhandling
>
> > 3. Lap Dancing
>
> > 4. Muggings
>
> > 5. Church Collection Plates
>
> > 6. Gambling
>
> > 7. Tax Avoidance
>
> > 8. ATMs
>
> > I guess their editors don't know how to count,
>
> > 9. Coin Collecting
>
> >
>
> > http://blog.laptopmag.com/death-of-cash
>
>
>
>
>
> Cash isn't going anywhere. The traffic in illegal but highly desirable
>
> goods demands cash.
>
>
>

There are plenty of prostitutes... er I mean sex workers, who take plastic. Billed as massage, escort, or 'services', they are billed discretely, also aloowing the taxman to give his blessings.

There are drug dealers who take credit cards. A simple swipe of the card through a smartphone and the vendor has a paper trail making it easier to pay quarterly income tax payments.

Vendors who pay taxes are less likely to get grief from police, I would think.

[Tim J.]

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:01:30 -0700 (PDT), "Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love
Interest" <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Vendors who pay taxes are less likely to get grief from police, I would think.

The police don't give a shit about taxes. It's the IRS and other
taxing authorities that do and they usually have their own enforcement
divisions.

[Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest]

Take a town like Stockton, Ca., a town of the verge of bankruptcy, where more than half the population is dependent of government money. You think the police are going to be wanting to jail prostitutes and pot dealers who pay taxes? Or are they more likely to go after those who don't contribute? Think the city would want to go after speeders or after tax paying purveyors of sin? Mayor talks to police chief who talks down the chain of command. Detectives go after the criminals that earn points and beat cops have quotas.

Besides, customers and vendors who deal in plastic are of a better quality, cash is so common.

[David Uri]

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT), "Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love
Interest" <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>6. Gambling

Since when was cash necessary for gambling? Or are things different
in the USA?

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[BobF]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:57:51 +0100, David Uri
<davidu...@bigfoot.com> shouted from the highest rooftop:

>On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:55:41 -0700 (PDT), "Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love
>Interest" <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>6. Gambling
>
>Since when was cash necessary for gambling? Or are things different
>in the USA?

Depends on what kind of gambling and where. Different rules for
different states, counties and municipalities. That's legal gambling.

Then there's the less than legal gambling. Or the private poker games.
Or the office pools, etc, etc. Those are invariably cash only.

I'll take a the occasional punt on a "Pokie machine" (aka slot
machine) in NZ if I'm passing one and have a pocket full of coins. But
since I've been paying for nearly everything with a card I rarely have
much of that anymore.

--

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[MWB]

>
> I was struck by the bit about Oren's Daily Roast (which I guess sells
> coffee) adding a dollar tip to every order. I generally don't tip for
> counter service,

WTF....I'm a cheap ass Republican and I tip wicked bad.

I'm wicked cheap with your money.....not mine.


CHEAP F'N DEMOCRATS


GO RED SOX NATION


Mark

[MWB]

They will need it when Obabacare starts sending out $2,000.00 monthly
premiums to a healthy family of two adults and one child.


Trust me....Try buying ammo

They will RIOT


GO S&W


Mark

[BobF]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 04:16:08 -0500, "News" <m...@sb.net> shouted from the
highest rooftop:

> Would you believe playing penny ante poker with friends?

What I wouldn't believe is that you have any friends.

--

"I have plenty of friends on Facebook." - From "The Sayings of Roy"

[leno...@yahoo.com]

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:26:24 AM UTC-4, David Carson wrote:
> Do I use cash as much as I used to? Of course not, but the main reason isn't the convenience of plastic. It's the inconvenience of cashiers handing back currency, coins, and a receipt in one big glob. I'm using one hand to hold my billfold, so how am I supposed to sort the bills out of that glob with only one hand? "Please put the receipt in the bag" only works sometimes. So, lots of places I go, if I don't have exact change, I pay with a credit card. First world problem, I know, but it's still the main reason fewer of my transactions are done in cash than they used to. David Carson


Couldn't you just stuff it in your pocket and sort it out later, when you're in a more private place?

Granted, I believe in using pockets for cash - or cards - only when the pockets have zippers or at least are good and deep. I don't use a wallet because I remember one occasion when it slipped upward and fell out of my pocket (I guess it got squeezed upward when I was sitting down in a car) and when I got out of the car and it fell, I only noticed because my foot bumped against it. Not to mention it's too easy for pickpockets to grab EVERYTHING when it's in a wallet. Besides, I try to use my credit card only once or twice a month, so I tend to leave it at home most of the time. Same with the debit card. (You'll never catch me carrying around anything really valuable in public if I don't absolutely have to - such as a laptop!)

However, one has to wonder why more people don't do what the Thompson Twins (not the pop group!) once did - they attached an elastic band to the wallet and the other end to the jacket.

Back to cash versus cards. As Jim Cramer of Mad Money says (not verbatim): "Paying cash HURTS! All the more reason to use it!" So, for young people at least, that can be a good way to force themselves to think twice before spending, since credit cards ARE so addictive.

Lenona.

[Joe Pucillo]

Wasn't it Brad Ferguson who said...

> Cash isn't going anywhere. The traffic in illegal but highly desirable
> goods demands cash.

...and Craigslist sales.

Yesterday I sold my old lawnmower for $50. The woman who bought
came to my house, fresh from the ATM with three $20 bills. I
reached in my pocket for change, and only found two twenties and
a fifty. I told her, "Wait here while I raid the kids' rooms."

My daughter never has money (and probably was the reason that my
small bills were gone from my pocket) but my son is saving for an
iPod, and has a box marked "iPod Funds" in his room. I grabbed
it, opened it and found a piece of paper which read "DECOY". I
knew he had about $100 in his room somewhere, but it was hidden.

Then, I remembered that my wife was rolling change last weekend,
and found a $10 roll of quarters on the dining room table.

Laughing as I emerged from the house, I said, "I found change for
you - literally." I wasn't going to let the lawnmower go for
$40, and she wasn't going to pay $60.

Good thing for cash...



JnP

[leno...@yahoo.com]

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:36:47 PM UTC-4, News wrote:
> Unlike most people who go deeply into debt with those huge 25+% interest
costs on top of the unpaid balance, I carefully track and know almost
exactly what my credit card purchases are for the previous month, and only
use the credit card for convenience, BUT I PAY IT ALL OFF at the end of the
monthly cycle. Nothing worse than giving away interest when you don't have
to.

As Amy Dacyczyn (author of "The Complete Tightwad Gazette") once wrote (not verbatim) "As a tightwad, when you choose a credit card, your lowest priority should be a low interest rate, because you'll probably never need it."

Lenona.

[Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest]

This discussion will be seem quaint in a few years.

Right now you can take a picture of a check, send it to your bank and have it credited to your account, within seconds.

Soon, you'll be able to swipe your smart device across mine and transfer funds. Right now it involves a subscription, but soon will be free or nearly so.

Later this year, you'll be seeing new $100 bills. Why? Because paper is getting easier to counterfeit.

I haven't had cash in my purse for the longest time. I haven't written a check in years. My coin collecting jar hasn't grown a cent in a very long time.

If God wanted us to have money, he would have made us with pockets.

[Sarah Ehrett]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:54:15 -0500, David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:

>
>The main thing the government has tried to do is wean people off of
>the $1 bill, wanting them to use a coin in its place. The main reason
>that's failed is because all of their $1 coins have been stupid. Make
>it an obviously different size, color, and feel than the other coins,
>and put Ronald Reagan on it, and people would use it.

Sounds like a winner!

[Allen Abel]

"David Carson" <da...@neosoft.com> wrote in message
news:2cson8d0jl6ea67pr...@4ax.com...

>
> The main thing the government has tried to do is wean people off of
> the $1 bill, wanting them to use a coin in its place. The main reason
> that's failed is because all of their $1 coins have been stupid. Make
> it an obviously different size, color, and feel than the other coins,
> and put Ronald Reagan on it, and people would use it.
>

No, no! Ronald Reagan goes on the $3 bill.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <v6nnn8hd3lkn3n6nk...@4ax.com>,
David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
...
>I agree that it isn't going anywhere, but not just because of the
>reason given. It just isn't going anywhere. Some other reasons are
>vending machines, toll booths, and the guy who sells tamales or
>watermelons out of his truck on the side of the road. Credit card fees
>are prohibitively expensive for small transactions.

It *is* going away - it is just a matter of when. And by when, I really
mean that which is really of concern to us, namely: Will it happen during
our lifetimes? FWIW, I think you're about the same age as me, and I don't
think it will go away completely in my lifetime, though its usage will scale
back greatly, to the point of almost non-existence. This is already
happening.

The advent, in the last year or two, of those cute little "square" thingies
that you plug into your cell phone and (Voila!) you are a Visa/MasterCard
vendor, has really changed the game. As I understand it, the overhead for
those is very small, much smaller than the traditional 4%. It seems like
just about every day I see some new person using one - in a business that a
year (or so) back, you couldn't imagine accepting credit cards. Virtually
all of the things listed in this thread (yes, including drug dealing and
panhandling) could easily become credit-card accessible.

Now, going further with this, this is not to say that the final solution is
credit cards, as we currently know them. It might well just be retinal
scans or something similarly high-tech, that makes credit cards look quaint
by comparison.

--
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can vote like one.

[Louis Epstein]

Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love Interest <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Creepy.

> Soon, you'll be able to swipe your smart device across mine and
> transfer funds. Right now it involves a subscription, but soon will be
> free or nearly so.
>
> Later this year, you'll be seeing new $100 bills. Why? Because paper is
> getting easier to counterfeit.

Yet it will be paper.

> I haven't had cash in my purse for the longest time. I haven't written
> a check in years. My coin collecting jar hasn't grown a cent in a very
> long time.

...because you don't share the objections to these trends
that some of us have.

-=-=-
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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

[Louis Epstein]

David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT), "Sarah Ehrett's Lesbian Love
> Interest" <wilm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> This discussion will be seem quaint in a few years.
>

> There are people who've been advocating the abolition of the penny for
> as long as I can remember, but it's never come about. The PENNY.
>
> At the other end, they've just done another redesign of the hundred
> dollar bill, which should tell you they aren't planning to get rid of
> it anytime soon.

>
> The main thing the government has tried to do is wean people off of
> the $1 bill, wanting them to use a coin in its place. The main reason
> that's failed is because all of their $1 coins have been stupid. Make
> it an obviously different size, color, and feel than the other coins,

They've already done that...I like to use them...

> and put Ronald Reagan on it, and people would use it.

But if they did that,I'd stop using them.
(Mind you,he should be due soon in the presidential-dollars series).

The key to weaning people off $1 bills is to STOP PRINTING THEM
so the coins are the only option!

[Louis Epstein]

Kenny McCormack <gaz...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <v6nnn8hd3lkn3n6nk...@4ax.com>,
> David Carson <da...@neosoft.com> wrote:
> ...
>>I agree that it isn't going anywhere, but not just because of the
>>reason given. It just isn't going anywhere. Some other reasons are
>>vending machines, toll booths, and the guy who sells tamales or
>>watermelons out of his truck on the side of the road. Credit card fees
>>are prohibitively expensive for small transactions.
>
> It *is* going away - it is just a matter of when.

Only if people don't demand that it stay.

> And by when, I really mean that which is really of concern to us,
> namely: Will it happen during our lifetimes? FWIW, I think you're about
> the same age as me, and I don't think it will go away completely in my
> lifetime, though its usage will scale back greatly, to the point of
> almost non-existence. This is already happening.
>
> The advent, in the last year or two, of those cute little "square" thingies
> that you plug into your cell phone and (Voila!) you are a Visa/MasterCard
> vendor, has really changed the game. As I understand it, the overhead for
> those is very small, much smaller than the traditional 4%. It seems like
> just about every day I see some new person using one - in a business that a
> year (or so) back, you couldn't imagine accepting credit cards. Virtually
> all of the things listed in this thread (yes, including drug dealing and
> panhandling) could easily become credit-card accessible.
>
> Now, going further with this, this is not to say that the final solution
> is credit cards, as we currently know them. It might well just be retinal
> scans or something similarly high-tech, that makes credit cards look quaint
> by comparison.

Always prefer coin to paper,paper money to check,check to credit card,
credit card to electronic transfer!

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <avdvn85v3gjipo8i4...@4ax.com>,
Terry del Fuego <t_del...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:18:33 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein
><l...@main.put.com> wrote:
>
>>Always prefer coin to paper,paper money to check,check to credit card,
>>credit card to electronic transfer!
>

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbergers#Restricted_and_repetitive_interests_and_behavior
>
>"People with Asperger syndrome often display behavior, interests, and
>activities that are restricted and repetitive and are sometimes
>abnormally intense or focused. They may stick to inflexible routines,
>move in stereotyped and repetitive ways, or preoccupy themselves with
>parts of objects."

Indeed.

But, personally, I prefer just not paying at all. This, of course, doesn't
work all the time, but frequently, my good looks are enough.

I assume Louis would approve...

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about C; mostly, like most "discussion" groups, it is
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traumas of the participants...

[R H Draney]

Louis Epstein filted:

>
>Always prefer coin to paper,paper money to check,check to credit card,
>credit card to electronic transfer!

The logical extension backwards through this chain of preferences is that barter
would be even better than coin....

(You don't have to pay me for that, but if you insist, I'll take mine in
goats)....r


--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[David Carson]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:09:32 +0000 (UTC), The LE-86 <l...@main.put.com>
wrote:

>> and put Ronald Reagan on it, and people would use it.
>
>But if they did that,I'd stop using them.

I don't think so. That would violate one of your programming constraints.

David Carson
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[BobF]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:27:50 -0500, "News" <m...@sb.net> shouted from the
highest rooftop:

>"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:klpan...@drn.newsguy.com...

> Would you prefer goat's milk?
> Bullets (not silver--Lone Ranger only) for barter?
> How about some silver quarters or dimes?
>
> Worst option of all:
> A depreciating piece of Fed paper?
> (could at the worst be useful in starting a wood stove fire, or toilet
>paper)

You could always use it to stuff up your ass when your head isn't
there.

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