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marcus

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:55:16 AM11/22/09
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You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?

Name three.


I'll start:


Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".

marcus

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:55:16 AM11/22/09
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Tim J.

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:03:20 AM11/22/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:55:16 -0800 (PST), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
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Paris Hilton, American Idol, Sean Hannity.

Three truly worthless entities.

La N

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:08:11 AM11/22/09
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Harry Potter, Grateful Dead, the type of jazz music that sounds like it's
made up as it goes along.

- nilita (ducking)


Matthew Kruk

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:20:33 AM11/22/09
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"marcus" <marc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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- Oprah - Superficiality at it's best ("Color Purple" - Barf!!!) - is
that the Secret?

- "Reality" programs (How about a reality program showing where decent
unemployed people are trying to find jobs these days)

- Black Eyed Peas (Don't know what it is, can't stand them ever since
Fergie wet herself on stage -
http://thehypefactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/fergie_wet_herself.jpg)

Christ, don't get me started. I'll be up until dawn ...


Ed Varner

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:26:10 AM11/22/09
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The Simpsons, Bjork, NASCAR

R H Draney

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:43:30 AM11/22/09
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marcus filted:

Sports, soap operas, the Republican Party.

....r


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An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
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Aje.RavenStar

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:40:00 AM11/22/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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hmm. A ripping yarn like Robert Heinlein used to do and Piers Anthony still
sometimes does, the creator of occaisional gems like Ripple and Touch of
Grey (easier to get this sort of thing if you remember Sturgeon's Law: 90%
of what's created is crap). Ano - 'type' of jazz that sounds made up as it
goes along? I was always taught improv was the key element of jazz (and I'm
firmly of the opinion jazz is just bluegrass gone to the city - both
emphasis instrumentals and free form around a basic theme).

Main thing I don't get right now is why we here in the US aren't holding the
media accountable for creating a furior over the so called 'death committee'
element in the health care reform debate, both for it being a distortion of
what the proposed law calls for, and for ignoring the fact that 'death
committees' already exist, they're just creatures of the insurance companies
and not accountable to anyone.

(one of my wife's measurements is 44J - no enhancement involved. She has
backaches from it, rashes in certain spots almost constantly, and certainly
could use the weight loss reduction surgery would have as a side benefit.
Her primary care physician and a specialist agree and recommend it. After a
two year battle, however, the insurance company refused approval,
designating it as an 'elective cosmetic' procedure. At the same time, her
employer went with a new insurance company for a cheaper rate (and since has
switched back to the first one), meaning we'd have to start the fight all
over again, waiting a year so it wasn't a 'pre-existing' condition, then
going out of pocket for the same round of exams, etc. How come the media
hasn't been shining any light on that death committee, eh?)


danny burstein

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:33:59 AM11/22/09
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In <hebevl$2n9$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Aje.RavenStar" <whine...@comcast.net> writes:

[snip]

>designating it as an 'elective cosmetic' procedure. At the same time, her
>employer went with a new insurance company for a cheaper rate (and since has
>switched back to the first one), meaning we'd have to start the fight all
>over again, waiting a year so it wasn't a 'pre-existing' condition, then
>going out of pocket for the same round of exams, etc. How come the media
>hasn't been shining any light on that death committee, eh?)

You should probably get, ahem, a second opinion on that insurance
issue. Under Kennedy-Kassebaum, most "pre existing conditions"
are, in fact, covered. There's lots of fine print, of course,
with the biggest issue that you had to have previous insurance
that would have covered it.

But it's certainly worth a try.

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Aje.RavenStar

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:30:24 AM11/22/09
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"danny burstein" <dan...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In <hebevl$2n9$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Aje.RavenStar"
> <whine...@comcast.net> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
>>designating it as an 'elective cosmetic' procedure. At the same time, her
>>employer went with a new insurance company for a cheaper rate (and since
>>has
>>switched back to the first one), meaning we'd have to start the fight all
>>over again, waiting a year so it wasn't a 'pre-existing' condition, then
>>going out of pocket for the same round of exams, etc. How come the media
>>hasn't been shining any light on that death committee, eh?)
>
> You should probably get, ahem, a second opinion on that insurance
> issue. Under Kennedy-Kassebaum, most "pre existing conditions"
> are, in fact, covered. There's lots of fine print, of course,
> with the biggest issue that you had to have previous insurance
> that would have covered it.
>
> But it's certainly worth a try.

Kennedy-Kassebaum didn't exist then.


danny burstein

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:33:30 AM11/22/09
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In <heblem$m8s$1...@news.eternal-september.org> "Aje.RavenStar" <whine...@comcast.net> writes:

>> issue. Under Kennedy-Kassebaum, most "pre existing conditions"
>> are, in fact, covered. There's lots of fine print, of course,
>> with the biggest issue that you had to have previous insurance
>> that would have covered it.
>>
>> But it's certainly worth a try.

>Kennedy-Kassebaum didn't exist then.

ah, sorry. It wasn't clear that your incident was from way back.

Hidden Draggin

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:50:54 PM11/22/09
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Aje.RavenStar wrote:

>
> (one of my wife's measurements is 44J - no enhancement involved.

OH BABY!


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Kris Baker

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:38:10 PM11/22/09
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"Tim J." <tj6...@usa.not> wrote in message
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Ditto on all of the above. I'll add:

The song "American Pie", Bob Dylan, Halloween

Kris

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R H Draney

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:41:03 PM11/22/09
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Hidden Draggin filted:

>
>Aje.RavenStar wrote:
>
>>
>> (one of my wife's measurements is 44J - no enhancement involved.
>
>OH BABY!

Now *that's* a shoe!...

Three more things I don't get:

Krispy Kreme, White Castle, anything "alfredo"....r

Aje.RavenStar

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> Hidden Draggin filted:
>>
>>Aje.RavenStar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> (one of my wife's measurements is 44J - no enhancement involved.
>>
>>OH BABY!
>
> Now *that's* a shoe!...
>
> Three more things I don't get:
>
> Krispy Kreme,

Sugar overload

White Castle,

small and cute.

anything "alfredo"....r

garlic for me - and parmasian cream sauce. ok on noodles, but best
'alfredo' thing I ever had was this seafood pizza some years ago - shrimp
and krabmeat with alfredo sauce, smoked provolone, mushrooms and pimentos.


La N

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:55:25 PM11/22/09
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I don't "get" people who don't like chocolate. Mind you, come to think of
it, I've never met one of those kind of people.

- nilita


Aje.RavenStar

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:55:28 PM11/22/09
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*at first they used actual crab meat (though canned), but they got a number
of complaints (including me, one time out of four I had) about shell bits
unexpectedly bit into.


Kris Baker

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:58:33 PM11/22/09
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"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I don't "get" people who don't like chocolate. Mind you, come to think of
> it, I've never met one of those kind of people.
>
> - nilita

It depends what kind of chocolate. I detest Hershey's and other
milk chocolates. If it's not dark and semi-sweet, it's flavorless,
and greasy.

Kris

marcus

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:51:16 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 2:41 pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> Hidden Draggin filted:
>
>
>
> >Aje.RavenStar wrote:
>
> >> (one of my wife's measurements is 44J - no enhancement involved.
>
> >OH BABY!
>
> Now *that's* a shoe!...
>
> Three more things I don't get:
>
> Krispy Kreme, White Castle, anything "alfredo"....r
>
> -
If I may add three more things that some people like, but I don't
get:

cilantro, Ayn Rand, fanny packs

Brian

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:26:18 PM11/22/09
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On 22 Nov 2009 00:43:30 -0800, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
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>Sports, soap operas, the Republican Party.

The fawning uncritical adulation of Obama, reality shows, tobacco

R H Draney

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:31:08 AM11/23/09
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marcus filted:

>
> If I may add three more things that some people like, but I don't
>get:
>
>cilantro, Ayn Rand, fanny packs

cilantro: let me guess...you're one of those people who think it "tastes like
soap"...researchers have found that liking or disliking cilantro boils down to a
genetic defect...those who have the defect find soap and cilantro tasting the
same; those with intact genes can distinguish the two....

fanny packs: what's the alternative?...cargo pants with every pocket filled to
capacity?...carry your backpack everywhere?...resist breaking up with the
girlfriend you're actually sick and tired of just so you can ask her to carry
your stuff in her purse?...r

Loki

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On 22 Nov 2009 00:43:30 -0800, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
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>marcus filted:


>>
>>You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
>>musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
>>wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>>
>>Name three.
>>
>>
>>I'll start:
>>
>>
>>Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>
>Sports, soap operas, the Republican Party.

Led Zeppelin
American Idol
The NFL

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lidsvillenine

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:39:01 AM11/23/09
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Tom Petty
Reba McEntyre
Ray Romano

lidsvillenine

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:39:42 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 1:08 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Tim J. wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:55:16 -0800 (PST), marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com>

> > wrote:
>
> >> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
> >> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
> >> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>
> >> Name three.
>
> >> I'll start:
>
> >> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>
> > Paris Hilton, American Idol, Sean Hannity.
>
> > Three truly worthless entities.
>
> Harry Potter, Grateful Dead,  the type of jazz music that sounds like it's
> made up as it goes along.
>
> - nilita (ducking)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Jazz *IS* made up as it goes along. That is the essence of Jazz.

Magnus

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On Nov 22, 1:55 am, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>
> Name three.
>
> I'll start:
>
> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".

Elvis, Mark Rothko, Nancy Pelosi

Magnus

La N

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:02:17 AM11/23/09
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yadda ... yadda ... I know ... I know ... but there is some jazz I like,
that which is more orchestrated like Duke Ellington and Count Basie. Sunday
night "cool" jazz played on talk radio, for instance, I find boring,
although it does tend to put me to sleep.

- nilita


Tim J.

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:30:31 AM11/23/09
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You mean everyone doesn't love Raymond?

R H Draney

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Magnus filted:

Dune, Thomas Covenant, CJ Cherryh....r

Mark

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Lesbians, Obama worship, Adam Lambert

Charlene

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:07:11 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 1:55 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't "get" people who don't like chocolate.  Mind you, come to think of
> it, I've never met one of those kind of people.

I'm not a fan of chocolate. I don't actually hate it, but sweet foods
simply don't send me, and without tons of sugar chocolate is just
bitter.

wd45

Kenny McCormack

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:25:33 AM11/23/09
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In article <886eab32-b10d-4a2c...@p33g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,

Mark <weiss...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Lesbians, Obama worship, Adam Lambert

I've seen this "Obama worship" thing pop up on newsgroups now.
Obviously, another Republican planted meme.

For what it is worth, there is no "worship", but there is a strong
feeling of relief that we've finally started to emerge from the Dark
Period that was the Bush years. Repeating: sense of relief, not worship.

Hidden Draggin

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:54:37 AM11/23/09
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Just wait...Bush and the Republicans may have been
wrong about many things, but Obama and the Democrats
will screw up many other different things.

Dave Sill

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:22:06 AM11/23/09
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I'm with on Hershey's--it's just not *good*. But I do like a quality
milk chocolate.

-Dave

Corby Gilmore

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marcus (marc...@yahoo.com) writes:
> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>
> Name three.
>
>
> I'll start:
>
>
> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".


Rap/Hip Hop; Seinfeld; Ballet.

Corby Gilmore

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:51:42 PM11/23/09
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Ed Varner (ed.v...@gmail.com) writes:

> On Nov 21, 11:55=A0pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>>
>> Name three.
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>
> The Simpsons, Bjork, NASCAR


Ed, you missed the concept slightly. Nobody likes Bjork; therefore, she
doesnt actually qualify.

Brigid Nelson

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:16:42 PM11/23/09
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Pity me, my husband likes Bjork. Envy me, he's building himself a
sound-proof music room where he can listen to it as loudly as he likes
and I'll never know.

Things I don't get:

The Office, either one - didn't like Extras either
Yoko Ono
Wii, but it does remind me of those Nickelodeon breaks recommending
"actual reality"

Hey I found it at minute 6:30: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGC6BSBolho

brigid

Corby Gilmore

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:19:45 PM11/23/09
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Actually, Brigid, as far as I know nobody likes Yoko Ono either so.....

R H Draney

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Corby Gilmore filted:

<Waving arms wildly>

I like Bj�rk (to the point of spelling her name correctly), and I like Yoko
too....

And more, much more than this, I like smiling quietly to myself at people who
don't "get" either or both of them....

Back to the original request...can't come up with two comparables to go with it,
but I *really* don't get Sudoku...or more accurately, I *can't* allow myself to
get anything about it...what little I've accidentally discovered so far suggests
that it's the worst kind of OCD-bait imaginable....r

R H Draney

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Corby Gilmore filted:

Then you're *really* going to hate my new ballet "Yada Yada To The Hizzada"....r

Loki

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:17:27 PM11/23/09
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Three is too finite a number.

Earlier I mentioned Led Zeppelin, American Idol, and the NFL. Let me
add to that list:

Neil Young
David Bowie
Any TV show with "CSI" in the title.
Any TV show with "With The Stars" in the title.
Julia Roberts
James Taylor
Bill O'Reilly
Family Circus
NASCAR
Heavy metal "music"
The Osbornes
Light beer
Angelina Jolie
Barbra Streisand
Dr. Phil
Wanda Sykes
Conan O' Brian

And that is just scratching the surface...

Loki

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On 24 Nov 2009 00:19:45 GMT, ai...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Corby Gilmore)
wrote:

You beat me to the punch on that one Corby.

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Tim J.

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>>
>>marcus (marc...@yahoo.com) writes:
>>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
>>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
>>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>>>
>>> Name three.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll start:
>>>
>>>
>>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>>
>>
>> Rap/Hip Hop; Seinfeld; Ballet.
>
>Then you're *really* going to hate my new ballet "Yada Yada To The Hizzada"....r

..as performed by Les Grands Ballets Canadiens de Montr�al.;-)

Brigid Nelson

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:59:27 PM11/23/09
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Actually... I had this housemate who Looved her and listened to her
daily. Occasional relief(debatable)came when she'd choose to take a
break and listen to Stevie Wonder or Santana.

brigid

cat

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"marcus" <marc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?

> Name three.

Austin Powers, sushi, M*A*S*H* (the TV show, not the movie).


marcus

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On Nov 23, 6:51 pm, ai...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Corby Gilmore) wrote:

One of my best friends, a 65 WASP male, adores Bjork, and has since
the early-to-mid 1990s. He has all of her albums, and has seen her in
concert a couple of times.

Personally, it is one of those things that "I don't get", but to each
his own.

Three more things I don't get:

ketchup on hot dogs, "Law and Order", MIchael Jackson

Mark

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On Nov 23, 8:25 am, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
> In article <886eab32-b10d-4a2c-bdbc-54ba26e50...@p33g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> Mark  <weiss.sl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Lesbians, Obama worship, Adam Lambert
>
> I've seen this "Obama worship" thing pop up on newsgroups now.
> Obviously, another Republican planted meme.
>

You may not have seen it or perhaps your head has been in the sand but
there's been a lot of "Obama worship" out there and it has nothing to
do with the horror of the past 8 years. I'm a Democrat, voted for
Obama, but I don't worship him. But there are certainly people in the
media who do and I know quite a few middle-aged (always white) women
who just fawn all over him and think he is some god sent down here to
solve all of our problems.

Claiming that that doesn't exist is just plain silly. There are people
who are ga ga over him and I just don't get it. He's just a taller
Urkel. I hope he does a good job and gets the country back on track
but I'm not going to be worshipping him or acting like he's some sort
of messiah.

marcus

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I don't know of anyone who says that you should or are expected to.

Mark

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> I don't know of anyone who says that you should or are expected to.- Hide quoted text -
>

And I didn't say that, did I? This thread was about "things you don't
get." And "Obama worship" is something I don't get. What's so hard to
understand about that?

marcus

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> understand about that?-

That there isn't any such thing.

Mark

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> That there isn't any such thing.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, you don't make any sense but that's ok. You're entitled to be
stupid. If you really think there is no such thing as "Obama worship"
then you are living in some alternate reality and it's impossible to
reach you.

Hyfler/Rosner

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"Mark" <weiss...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What I find amazing here is that no one seems to have had a
problem with him writing "lesbians."

And for the record, Obama worship is real. You been on the
upper west side of Manhattan lately?


Louis Epstein

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:05:31 PM11/24/09
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R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
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:>
:>On Nov 22, 1:55=A0am, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
:>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
:>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
:>>
:>> Name three.
:>>
:>> I'll start:
:>>
:>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
:>
:>Elvis, Mark Rothko, Nancy Pelosi
:
: Dune, Thomas Covenant, CJ Cherryh....r

I agree with all three!

Vampire chic,stoner comedies,ice hockey

-=-=-
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at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Louis Epstein

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:10:24 PM11/24/09
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Loki <cubby...@aol.com> wrote:
: On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:52:21 -0800 (PST), Magnus
: <robertc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:
:

Rosie O'Donnell
Ellen DeGeneres
Stephen King
Britney Spears
Megan Fox
Maxim magazine

Magnus

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:44:08 PM11/24/09
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Obama worship can be defined by negatives as well as positives. There
is, for instance, almost no adverse coverage of Obama (outside of Fox
News); few are those who will ask him a tough question in interviews;
few are those who do any investigating into his administration or its
allies (for intance, it took a couple of kid reporters to break the
Acorn story, which the major media would never have touched). Obama
gets a totally free pass. Even the late night comedians have been
tougher on Obama than the news media, whom Obama seems to own. Hence,
the news media aren't doing their job.

How long this is going to last is hard to say. Maybe it will continue
on through Obama's last day in office.

Magnus

marcus

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:01:20 PM11/24/09
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> Magnus- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

He has still to enjoy the carte blanche afforded his predecessor post
9/11 and during the build-up of the war against Iraq. When and if
Obama achieves that totality, I will take your charges
seriously...until then, it is merely a partisan view held widely by
those in the minority party of our government

R H Draney

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:16:18 AM11/25/09
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Magnus filted:

>
>
>Obama worship can be defined by negatives as well as positives. There
>is, for instance, almost no adverse coverage of Obama (outside of Fox
>News); few are those who will ask him a tough question in interviews;

It's hard to ask a really brilliant person a "tough" question...not like when we
had the Pretzel Whisperer and you could trigger the deer-in-the-headlights look
just by asking him what his proudest moment was....r

R H Draney

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:23:01 AM11/25/09
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Louis Epstein filted:

Okay, looking at the above list:

I *sometimes* get Bowie...he's covered a lot of ground in his career, and I
haven't always gone into every corridor he's explored....

I was once prepared to dismiss Jolie as vapid eye candy, and then she came back
from one of her overseas trips with the following quote and I was won over:

"You eat the side of a cow, you eat a bug. I don't see a huge difference.
I like those whole frogs on a stick like a puppet, small and stretched out.
With a beer and some beetles and a few crickets, they're actually quite
good."

Ellen DeGeneres was once voted the funniest person in America...she still could
be, but she's got this need to keep fiddling with the formula...that, more than
her coming out, was what sank her first sitcom....

I'll add one more that other people adore and I just don't get: Chopin....r

Mark

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On Nov 24, 7:57 pm, "Hyfler/Rosner" <rel...@rcn.com> wrote:
> "Mark" <weiss.sl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Maybe that's because a lot of people also don't "get" lesbians.

> And for the record, Obama worship is real.  You been on the

> upper west side of Manhattan lately?- Hide quoted text -
>

I live on the east side and it exists there, too.

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R H Draney

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:28:09 PM11/27/09
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Terry del Fuego filted:
>
>On 24 Nov 2009 22:23:01 -0800, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>wrote:
>

>>I *sometimes* get Bowie...he's covered a lot of ground in his career, and I
>>haven't always gone into every corridor he's explored....
>
>I was driving around the other day when "Let's Dance" came on the
>radio...I realized that I liked--sometimes a *lot*--pretty much
>everything he'd done to that point, but that the album that made him a
>mainstream star and sold jillions wasn't in my collection in any
>format at all. So I guess Bowie doesn't make my list, but the one
>album of his that everyone else loves does. (And no, I'm not one of
>those idiots turns on a performer the instant everyone else discovers
>them.)

"*Everything* he'd done to that point"?...so you'd actually listen to something
like "The Laughing Gnome" as something other than an historical oddity?...

(Odd personal moment: some years before Borders decided to stop selling much
music or video in their stores, I was in one and heard acoustic covers of
"Starman" and "Suffragette City" in some indecipherable foreign tongue...wasn't
able to find anyone at the information desk, so it was only later that I was
introduced to the work of Seu Jorge)....r

Charlene

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Nov 27, 2009, 5:33:31 PM11/27/09
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Because IT DOESN'T EXIST. It's just something made up by extremist,
Obama-hating conservatives who can't accept in their own little
extremist minds that a rational person could support Obama. It's a
very neat way of making the opposition look less rational and less
worthwhile as human beings.

wd45

Kenny McCormack

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:23:11 PM11/27/09
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In article <ba9a30cd-d2c9-4ecf...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Charlene <charlene...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

>Because IT DOESN'T EXIST. It's just something made up by extremist,
>Obama-hating conservatives who can't accept in their own little
>extremist minds that a rational person could support Obama. It's a
>very neat way of making the opposition look less rational and less
>worthwhile as human beings.

Exactly so. And very well put.

It is, in fact, a very well-crafted meme, designed to appeal to a
particular personality type - basically, the uneducated, racist core of
the current US GOP. Look at the original presentation - including
"lesbians" as the first element was an integral part of the show.
Clearly and obviously, the Obama sniper attack was the payload, but the
reference to "lesbians" was an effective part of the delivery mechanism.

Now, as to the question: does it exist? Well, so what if there are a
lot of people, in well educated areas of the country like Manhattan's
UWS that really like Obama? Why shouldn't they? Is it worship? Of
course not. Worship is a ditzoid red state, GOP, uneducated concept
anyway. Do they (people in Manhattan and other educated areas) really
like him? Yes. Do they "worship" him? No. But that choice of words
speaks volumes to "the base".

marcus

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:28:13 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 27, 6:23 pm, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

The most worshipful people in America are those who listen to
rightwing talk radio daily.

Loki

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:37:23 PM11/28/09
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Morons who wear their sunglasses on the backs of their heads.

Kenny McCormack

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:08:20 PM11/28/09
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In article <076bf986-2266-434d...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
marcus <marc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

>> Now, as to the question: does it exist? �Well, so what if there are a
>> lot of people, in well educated areas of the country like Manhattan's
>> UWS that really like Obama? �Why shouldn't they? �Is it worship? �Of
>> course not. �Worship is a ditzoid red state, GOP, uneducated concept
>> anyway. �Do they (people in Manhattan and other educated areas) really
>> like him? �Yes. �Do they "worship" him? �No. �But that choice of words
>> speaks volumes to "the base".
>
>The most worshipful people in America are those who listen to
>rightwing talk radio daily.

Exactly. That is, in fact, a well-known right wing tactic - there is a
technical term for it, that escapes me at the moment, but it boils down
to "attaching your opponents at your own weakness". And I am not making
this up - google for it, you'll see. So, in this case, they are using
the "worship" meme as an attack tool, precisely because it is their own
weakness.

R H Draney

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:39:01 PM11/28/09
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Loki filted:

>
>Morons who wear their sunglasses on the backs of their heads.

I think it's time for a fresh pair of contact lenses...I read the first word of
that as "Mormons" and couldn't figure out why they're particularly known for
doing strange things with their eyewear....r

Michael O'Connor

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:07:46 PM11/28/09
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Lord of the Rings, American Idol, Coffee.

Kris Baker

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Nov 28, 2009, 5:18:23 PM11/28/09
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"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:hes59...@drn.newsguy.com...

> Loki filted:
>>
>>Morons who wear their sunglasses on the backs of their heads.
>
> I think it's time for a fresh pair of contact lenses...I read the first
> word of
> that as "Mormons" and couldn't figure out why they're particularly known
> for
> doing strange things with their eyewear....r

Of course they are. Joseph Smith used a secret "seer stone"
inside a hat, to find lost objects and later translate the
golden plates which he managed to lose.

I think "seer stone inside a hat" is much sillier than sunglasses
on the back of someone's head.

Kris

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Magnus

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Nov 28, 2009, 11:07:55 PM11/28/09
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On Nov 28, 3:08 pm, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

> >The most worshipful people in America are those who listen to


> >rightwing talk radio daily.
>
> Exactly.  That is, in fact, a well-known right wing tactic - there is a
> technical term for it, that escapes me at the moment, but it boils down
> to "attaching your opponents at your own weakness".  And I am not making
> this up - google for it, you'll see.  So, in this case, they are using
> the "worship" meme as an attack tool, precisely because it is their own
> weakness.

That's right--when you can't say anything sensible, throw in a little
half-baked psychological theory, the name of which escapes you.
There's a keen analysis of the situation.

Fortunately there is less and less Obama worship out there as people
begin to wake up to the drawbacks--and the enormous expense--of his
policies. He may just end up as a one-term president.

Magnus

Scott Brady

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:12:37 AM11/29/09
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On Nov 22, 1:03 am, Tim J. <tj66...@usa.not> wrote:

> Paris Hilton, American Idol, Sean Hannity.

You misunderstood. The question was to name things you're *supposed*
to get.

I'll admit though, that while I agree with him on the issues, I
wouldn't place Hannity in the top tier of talk-show hosts. Miss a day
and it'll be rehashed next week; the only time I'm compelled to tune
in is when some prominent liberal consents to be grilled.

To round out my list:

I've given "Curb Your Enthusiasm" every chance, but this show
redefines formulaic.

And I've never laughed out loud at Buster Keaton.

George Orwell

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:45:26 PM11/28/09
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Marcus:

> The most worshipful people in America are those who listen to
> >rightwing talk radio daily.

Kenny McCormack:


Exactly. That is, in fact, a well-known right wing tactic - there is a
technical term for it, that escapes me at the moment, but it boils down
to "attaching your opponents at your own weakness". And I am not making
this up - google for it, you'll see. So, in this case, they are using
the "worship" meme as an attack tool, precisely because it is their own
weakness.

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:16:50 AM11/29/09
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In article <019c1733-4f1d-4ca8...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Magnus <robertc...@yahoo.com> blabbered:
...

>That's right--when you can't say anything sensible, throw in a little
>half-baked psychological theory, the name of which escapes you.
>There's a keen analysis of the situation.

Waaaah.... Did baby lose his rattle?

Pete Townshends Chick

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Nov 29, 2009, 12:53:29 PM11/29/09
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James Dean's Acting?

Dancing with the Stars

and Donny and Marie

Led Zeppelin , The Grateful Dead

May the Forces Of Evil Get Confused On the Way to Your House. :)

http://www.net-burst.net <----excellent Christian Site

marcus

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:32:17 PM11/29/09
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On Nov 28, 4:45 pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:

> __________________________________
>
> Is "Projection" the word you are looking for?
>

No, most rightwingers are of the "I'm paper, you're glue" mentality.
"Projection" is too difficult for them to understand.

marcus

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:33:44 PM11/29/09
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If only Bush II had been a one-term president.

islanders

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R H Draney

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marcus filted:

>
>On Nov 28, 11:07=A0pm, Magnus <robertchamp2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fortunately there is less and less Obama worship out there as people
>> begin to wake up to the drawbacks--and the enormous expense--of his
>> policies. He may just end up as a one-term president.
>
>If only Bush II had been a one-term president.

Or a zero-term president....r

R H Draney

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Nov 29, 2009, 4:54:08 PM11/29/09
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marcus filted:

An example of right-wing thought: "what pisses me off in the extreme is when
someone gets the spelling or pronunciation of my name wrong...therefore, the
most effective insult I can hurl at another person is to misspell or
mispronounce his name *on purpose*...that'll hurt him deeply and show him I'm a
force to be reckoned with!"....r

Kris Baker

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Nov 29, 2009, 7:08:30 PM11/29/09
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"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:heuqa...@drn.newsguy.com...

> marcus filted:
>>
>>On Nov 28, 11:07=A0pm, Magnus <robertchamp2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fortunately there is less and less Obama worship out there as people
>>> begin to wake up to the drawbacks--and the enormous expense--of his
>>> policies. He may just end up as a one-term president.
>>
>>If only Bush II had been a one-term president.
>
> Or a zero-term president....r

Gee, let's see what Obama's "enormous expenses" consist of:

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars? Yup.
Obama put them in the budget.
Bush never did.
That's how the righties can claim that Obama's budget has increased
the budget deficit. Duh.

TARP?
That was a Bush program.

Healthcare reform?
If the Republicans are against it, why haven't THEY given up their
health insurance, which is 70% government-funded the same as any
other federal worker/retiree?

But if you're into bumper-sticker politics, the righties will be
along soon with another favorite.

Kris

marcus

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On Nov 29, 7:08 pm, "Kris Baker" <parallelcoo...@ggmail.com> wrote:
> "R H Draney" <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote in messagenews:heuqa...@drn.newsguy.com...

Here's a bumper-sticker for the right wingnuts:

"Don't think, don't act...vote Republican"

islanders

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On Nov 29, 8:17�pm, marcus <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's a bumper-sticker for the right wingnuts:
>
> "Don't think, don't act...vote Republican

As opposed to "Don't vote Republican, millions on welfare on counting
on you" ?

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R H Draney

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Nov 30, 2009, 1:45:41 AM11/30/09
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islanders filted:

No, it's "Don't vote Republican, it just encourages them"....r

B. R. Slim

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Nov 30, 2009, 2:37:06 PM11/30/09
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Terry del Fuego wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:55:16 -0800 (PST), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'll start:
>>
>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>
> 1. Children
>
> 2. The U. S. A.
>
> 3. Caring that strangers like things I don't


1. Why "A" still embarrasses himself on Usenet.
2. Why "Magnus" still embarrasses himself on Usenet.
3. Why Terry Ellsworth would bother to reemerge on Usenet.

David Carson

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Nov 30, 2009, 5:38:21 PM11/30/09
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>"marcus" <marc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:dc69aa59-71f8-4c43...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>>
>> Name three.

>>
>>
>> I'll start:
>>
>>
>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".

adult Star Wars fans

rap

dogs

Brian Watson

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People who think capitalism or communism still have any future.

Big Macs when there's a Burger King around the corner.

Lettuce.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
www.imagebus.co.uk/shop


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marcus

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On Dec 1, 7:10 pm, John M. <jcm1139tr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:21:48 -0000, "Brian Watson" <Br...@imagebus.co.uk> wrote:
> >David Carson wrote:
> >>> "marcus" <marcus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >>>news:dc69aa59-71f8-4c43...@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
> >>>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
> >>>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>
> >>>> Name three.
>
> >>>> I'll start:
>
> >>>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>
> >> adult Star Wars fans
>
> >> rap
>
> >> dogs
>
> >People who think capitalism or communism still have any future.
>
> >Big Macs when there's a Burger King around the corner.
>
> >Lettuce.
>
> When I was in my teens I knew someone who ate a whole head of lettuce after
> smoking some pot.
>
> --
>
> John M.-

OMG, I actually did that.

Brian Watson

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John M. wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:21:48 -0000, "Brian Watson"
> <Br...@imagebus.co.uk> wrote:

>> People who think capitalism or communism still have any future.
>>
>> Big Macs when there's a Burger King around the corner.
>>
>> Lettuce.
>

> When I was in my teens I knew someone who ate a whole head of lettuce
> after smoking some pot.

Now THAT's stoned!

Kenny McCormack

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Kenny McCormack

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In article <heuqi...@drn.newsguy.com>,

R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>marcus filted:
>>
>>On Nov 28, 4:45=A0pm, George Orwell <nob...@mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>
>>> __________________________________
>>>
>>> Is "Projection" the word you are looking for?
>>>
>>No, most rightwingers are of the "I'm paper, you're glue" mentality.
>>"Projection" is too difficult for them to understand.
>
>An example of right-wing thought: "what pisses me off in the extreme is when
>someone gets the spelling or pronunciation of my name wrong...therefore, the
>most effective insult I can hurl at another person is to misspell or
>mispronounce his name *on purpose*...that'll hurt him deeply and show him I'm a
>force to be reckoned with!"....r

Indeed. Well put.

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