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The Macedonian Phalanx, a Greek form of art

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Constantine Zissiadis

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Oct 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/3/99
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"Once unlimited money was devoted to war-making, and the technical and philosophical genius of the Greeks was applied to the new military science, organized killing became a Greek art of form in itself. throughout the
Hellenistic period,
continual technological sophistication refined both fortification and artillery, while ongoing debate redefined the proper role of the phalanx. In both cases, traditional always yielded innovation. When
Antigonus Gonatas (320-239 BC), for example, was asked how one should attack
the enemy, he simply gave the utilitarian, 'in any way that seems useful'.
      Nothing could ever match the sheer terror of a Macedonian phalanx. The
Roman general Aemilius Paulus, who faced phalangites at Pydna in 168 BC, was
left with a life-long image of terror: 'He considered the formidable appearance of their front bristling with arms, and was taken with fear and
alarm', says Plutarch: 'never he had ever seen before was its equal. Much later he often used to recall that sight and his own reaction to it."

Robert A. Lovett, "The Cambridge Illustrated History of Warfare", Cambridge University Press, 1995
 
Costas

Josif Grezlovski

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Oct 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/3/99
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Credit this misinformation to J.G Droysen obsession with Greece where he found analogous development in Prussias Germans. Nothing surprising; the romanticism with Greece in the early part of 19 century is evident. Many authors fell into the same trap.
Thank God for the real historians of the revisionist kind who shed some real light onto the darkened part of history.
For y.i. there is no such thing as "hellenistic period", that should rightfully be called Macedonistic, for there was nothing greek with the ancient Macedonians.
 
 
"Ancient Macedonians looked down upon the Hellenes with
contempt The dislike was reciprocal, for the Macedonians
have grown into a proud masterful nation which with
highly developed national consciousness looked down
upon the Hellenes with contempt"
Ulrich Wilcken.
 
"The Colonels, as it happened, promoted Alexander as
a Greek hero, especially to army recruits: The Greeks
of the fourth century B.C., to whom Alexander was a
half-Macedonian, half-Epirote barbarian conqueror,
would have found this metamorphosis as ironic as I
did."
Peter Green [Alexander of Macedon]
 
You can crush all the roses you want but you are not
going to stop the spring from coming
 
 
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Constantine Zissiadis

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Josif Grezlovski wrote in message <7t7vne$1asc$1...@news.gate.net>...
Credit this misinformation to J.G Droysen obsession with Greece where he found analogous development in Prussias Germans. Nothing surprising; the romanticism with Greece in the early part of 19 century is evident.
 
So what? Most contemporary historians of the 1990's classify the Macedonians as Greeks and akin to the Dorian tribe. The Germans of the 19th century simply paved the way.
 
 Many authors fell into the same trap.
 
Those are people with Ph.D's we are talking about, not some pamphleteers from Skopje!
 
Thank God for the real historians of the revisionist kind who shed some real light onto the darkened part of history.
 
We are talking about a couple of revisionists who want to acquire fame. Your man Borza says the following about the Macedonians in his book "In the Shadow of Olympus the Emergence of Macedon":
 
"We have seen that the Makedones or Highlanders of mountainous western Macedonia may have been derived of Northwest Greek stock. That is Northwest Greece provided a pool of Indo-European speakers of proto-Greek"
 
Now, do you affiliate yourself with people of Greek stock? And why do you speak a Slavic language? I don't recall any revisionist historian mentioning anything about Slavic-speakers.
 
For y.i. there is no such thing as "hellenistic period", that should rightfully be called Macedonistic, for there was nothing greek with the ancient Macedonians.
 
It was called Hellenistic, due to the fact that Macedonians were among the Greek-speaking peoples, something you are not.
 
Costas

ili...@sympatico.ca

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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They said the Macedonians are not Hellenes. Today's Greeks claim that
the ancient Macedonians were Greek. Should we listen to today's Greek
propagandists telling us what happened 2500 years ago, or should we
accept the viewpoint of the ancient Hellenes who clearly stated that the
Macedonians were not Hellenes?
No, even today you cannot believe the Greeks. When the Greeks occupied
Aegean Macedonia in 1913, they began to change peoples' names, place
names and suppressed the Macedonian language in 1936.  They did this to
make the Macedonian people look like they are Greek, but they will never
accomplish this. The Macedonians can never be changed into something
else. They will always be Macedonians!
Philip's tomb was found in Macedonian territory not in Sparta. Yet
Greece claims that Philip was a Greek king. What does that tell you
about Greek lies?
Ilinden

June R Harton

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Oct 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/4/99
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ilindra shut your stupid face!
 
 


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        (using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!

........The heart of Macedonia was always Greek
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