Policeman shot dead in Greece
Agamemnon
BBC Wednesday, 17 June 2009 11:35 UK
Police at the scene of the shooting
Gunmen have shot dead a policeman in an early morning attack in the
Greek capital, Athens.
The officer was hit many times as he sat in a car on guard duty
outside the home of a witness in a terrorism trial.
The trial involves a now-defunct left-wing group known as the
Revolutionary People's Struggle.
Officials say no attempt was made by the unidentified attackers to
approach the home of the witness. Reports say there were at least two
gunmen.
There have been a number of acts of violence blamed on left-wing and
anarchist groups since the killing of a 15-year-old boy by police in
December.
That incident sparked the worst riots in Greece for many years.
Multiple gunshots
The coroner, Philippos Koutsaftis, said the 41-year-old policeman shot
on Wednesday was carrying a holstered firearm.
"He was hit many times by shots that appear to have been fired at
close range," Mr Koutsaftis said.
A police spokesman, Panagiotis Stathis, said the victim had been shot
with "at least 15 to 20 bullets".
Police say the attackers disappeared into the streets of the Patissia
district and a hunt was launched in the area to try to find them.
The left-wing group at the centre of the trial, the Revolutionary
People's Struggle - or ELA - was blamed for many attacks in Greece over a
20-year period, before disbanding in the mid-1990s.
The attack was similar to one claimed by another left-wing group in
January. On that occasion, the officer targeted survived.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8104799.stm
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Youay wish to post this on soc.culture.greek
Nashton
Macedonia is part of Greece. FYROM is nothing Macedonian.
You may wish to not post in Greek ngs.
Thank you.
Krater Makedonski
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Silly, Bulgar.
Charter Revision 4.02.10022005 - Macedonian Groups/Greek Culture
Official Charter for all groups bearing the exclusive name MACEDONIA as
adopted by their members.
Charter Revision 4.02
So that the newsgroups "alt.culture.macedonia", "alt.news.macedonia", and
"alt.culture.macedonia.moderated" which were created without support from
soc.culture.greek or appropriate discussion in alt.config, cannot be used
for anti-Greek propaganda purposes their members have declared that they
should be deleted from news server active files by all ISP's.
Until this deletion occurs the members of the groups named above including
soc.culture.greek the parent group of all Greek newsgroups have voted for
the following charter to be enforced.
All newsgroups bearing the exclusive name MACEDONIA are considered as forums
for the discussion of matters relating to the province of Macedonia in
Northern Greece. This should not be confused with the internationally
isolated "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (FYROM) which in 1991
unilaterally declared independence and illegally usurped the historically
Greek name of Macedonia that until then had only ever been used to refer to
territory in the north of Greece which for 4000 years has been inhabited by
Hellenes (Greeks) who can trace their ancestry back to Alexander the Great.
There are no other people in the Balkans who are ethnically or racially
Macedonians except these Greeks.
The more than 2,000,000 Greeks who live in Macedonia (outnumbering the Slav
inhabitants of FYROM) and the 18 Million Greeks world-wide consider it as
OFFENSIVE and INSULTING to themselves, their ancestors and kinsmen, and to
their Hellenic heritage and inheritance for anyone but Macedonian Greeks to
call themselves Macedonian and the region they inhabit Macedonia.
The international community including the United Nations and the European
Union supported by very Eminent Historians only recognises the "Former
Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" by the acronym "FYROM" and NO OTHER NAME.
They believe that FYROM should adopt a name that does not include the term
"Macedonia" or any of its derivatives and that FYROM must desist from using
Greek symbols on its flag and stop teaching children in its schools the
mythos of General Tito which falsely claims that the FYROMians are the
descendants of the ancient Macedonians when in-reality they are ethnic
Bulgarian speaking Slavs that came into the Balkans in the 6th Century AD
(~1000 years after Alexander). For this reason there is NO short form for
FYROM's name except the acronym FYROM.
Additionally no member of the international community nor any international
organisation recognises the FYROMian nationality by the term "Macedonian",
not even the European Court of Human Rights.
FYROM has partially accepted the un-tenability of these false claims by
agreeing to use the acronym "FYROM" as its name and the term "Citizen of the
Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" to describe its national inhabitants
in all international fora. "FYROM" is the official name also used by the CIA
and all Government bodies world wide to refer to this entity.
Please use to the correct name for the "Former Yugoslav Republic of
Macedonia" which is FYROM whenever you refer to this entity so as not to
cause unwarranted offence or confusion.
The newsgroups for discussion of matters relating to FYROM are
alt.news.fyrom and alt.culture.fyrom. Please post there if you are from
FYROM
It must be emphasised that information supplied by FYROMian organisations
and representatives in this or other news groups, on the Internet or
directly to you and to media organisations, relating to their unfounded
claims is nothing but propaganda and revisionism that both Scholars and
professional Historians acknowledge as being unfounded lies of Orwellian
proportion designed for internal consumption and international propaganda
purposes.
The official languages of all newsgroups bearing the name "Macedonia" are
English and Greek.
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The decision of the EU summit meeting in Lisbon 1992
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"The European Council reiterates the position taken by the Community and its
members in Guimaraes on the request of the former Yugoslav Republic of
Macedonia to be recognized as an independent State. If expresses its
readiness to recognize that republic within its existing borders according
to their Declaration on 16 December 1991 under a name which does not include
the term Macedonia. It furthermore considers the borders of this republic as
inviolable and guaranteed in accordance with the principles of the UN
Charter and the Charter of Paris".
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FYROM President Kiro Gligorov: "We are Slavs who came to this area in the
sixth century . . . we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
(President of FYROM Ciro Gligorov, from the Foreign Information Service
Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35. )
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The United Nations strongly disapproves of the use of the name "Macedonia"
by the FYROM and demands that FYROM find an acceptable name which does not
use the name "Macedonia", which belongs to Greece, or any of its
derivatives.
"The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia -- (8 Apr. 1993)
--The General Assembly decided on 8 April 1993 to admit to United Nations
membership the State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within
the United Nations as "The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending
settlement of the difference that had arisen over its name."
http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html
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Any actions designed to propagate the use of the name "Macedonia" by the
FYROM are considered by the UN as contrary the United Nations Charter and as
attacks upon the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Greece.
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Spirit of Truth
Agamemnon
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Then why are you posting in it Bulgarian?
thus, unless you and the cypriot Aga Turk have
> something of interest to post for the Macedonians and their friends, f off
> from here.
Macedonians are Greeks. This is a Greek news story. Go back to
soc.culture.bulgarian.
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>> Thank you.
>
Krater Makedonski
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> thus, unless you and the cypriot Aga Turk have
>> something of interest to post for the Macedonians and their friends, f
>> off from here.
>
> Macedonians are Greeks. This is a Greek news story. Go back to
> soc.culture.bulgarian.
And pigs do fly, right, Turk?
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>>> Thank you.
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Spirit of Truth
"Krater Makedonski"
<kra...@yahoo.com
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FYROMIANS 1300 - 1750
1381 - 1383 - Documents of the notary Manoli Bresciano in the town of Candia
on the island of Crete about the sales of slaves.*
Sept. 12, 1381 - "... a slave ... Maria of Bulgarian stock [de genere
Bulgarorum], from the locality of Prilep." (#19)
Nov. 4, 1381 - "... Theodora, of Bulgarian stock, from the locality of
Kostour..." (#31)
July 5, 1382 - "... a slave named Alexo, of Bulgarian stock, from the
locality of Serres..." (#99)
July 8, 1382 - "... a slave named Irina, of Bulgarian stock, from the
locality of Kostour..." (#100)
July 12, 1382 - "... a slave named Irina, of Bulgarian stock, from the
locality of Devol**..." (#105)
Sept. 18, 1382 - "... a slave named Dimitar, a Bulgarian from the locality
of Vodena..." (#125)
Sept. 21, 1382 - "... of Bulgarian stock, from the locality of Veles..."
(#126)
Mar. 7, 1383 - "...Mihail, of Bulgarian stock, from the locality of
Skopie..." (#184)
Iv. Sakuzov, Newly found documents from the end of the XIVth c. about the
Bulgarians from Macedonia sold as slaves, Makedonsky Pregled, 1932, No. 2-3,
pp. 1- 62; the original is in Italian.
* The famous slave market in Candia was on the island of Crete, held by the
Venetians. Each selling or liberating of a slave had to be confirmed by a
notarial deed. The notary asked the slaves questions and according to the
answer wrote down his name, nationality and place of birth. All slaves from
Macedonia, with the exception of a few Greeks and Wallachians have been
recorded as Bulgarians.
** Devol - a town in East Albania close to Ochrid
From the "Life of St. John of Rila [Sveti Ivan Rilski]" (end of the XIVth
century), written in the library of the "St. Clement [Sveti Kliment]" church
in Ohrid.
"Pray to the merciful God to save your compatriots - your congenial
Bulgarian people."
c. 1500 - The Serbian historian Mihail of Ostrovitsa in his chronicle
reports that Dushan's son and successor, Stephan Urosh V, gave the two
brothers, the Serbian feudal lords Vukashin and Uglesha, to rule over the
Bulgarian lands.*
"He allowed the two brothers to govern the Bulgarian Kingdom... When he was
only four miles away from Drenopole, the two brothers, who had occupied the
Bulgarian land, rose up against their master."
The original is in Serbian.
* to see the extent of Vukashin and Uglesha's lands click here
1591 - Information by the Venetian ambassador Lorenzo Bernardo about the
Bulgarian character of the localities in Macedonia.
"They say that Struga is a town but as a matter of fact it is rather a
village; it is the first locality in succession in Bulgaria. A river flows
across Struga which runs out of the lake of Ochrida; here, they say, is also
the spring of the river of the town of Lesius [Drim river]. Practically the
whole plain of Struga is cultivated, tiled and very fertile; a little
further away, at the beginning of the plain of Struga, one passes through a
bridgewhich is on the border between Bulgaria and Albania. The Bulgarians
speak Slav and observe the Greek [Eastern Orthodox] rite."
"On May 23, proceeding further on a good road, they reached Bitola at 7
o'clock. Bitola is a Bulgarian town, densely populated, as they say, 1,500
houses, including 200 Jewish."
"On May 27, descending the hill abounding in water and wells, they followed
the foot of the mountain situated opposite the hill and came down in a wide
plain which the Turkscall Vardar Ova and the Bulgarians - Slanitsa."
"They passed through a wooden bridge, 300 steps long, leading across the
Vasrdar River which further on flows through Skopje...This bridge is the
boundary between Bulgaria and Thessaly. Near the bridge there is a house
from which a Bulgarian maid came with a loaf baked under hot ashes."
Spirit of Truth
(using June's e-mail to communicate to you)!
Agamemnon
You are Bulgarian you identity stealing fraud.
>
>> thus, unless you and the cypriot Aga Turk have
>>> something of interest to post for the Macedonians and their friends, f
>>> off from here.
>>
>> Macedonians are Greeks. This is a Greek news story. Go back to
>> soc.culture.bulgarian.
>
> And pigs do fly, right, Turk?
Deranged Bulgarian idiot.
>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>
Panayiotis
"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."
(Strabo VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])
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Panayiotis
Mr.Smartypants
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Funnelless cat molesting Greek.
News Groups
terrorists and put in jail for life! They are so stupid that they think the
people will be on their side! I doubt it! I'm a people and I want protection
fom scum like that! When I come to Greece I don't want to walk into a group
of extreme fuckers!
PS. FUCKERS LIKE THAT GIVE GREECE SUCH A BAD IMAGE! IF THEY WANT COMMUNISM
GO TO NORTH KOREA, iF THEY ANARCHY GO TO aNTARCTICA AND START YOUR OWN
ANRACHIST STATE! YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT, INCLUDING FUCKING EACH OTHER!
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