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Bret Cahill

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May 15, 2012, 1:52:31 AM5/15/12
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p scott

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May 15, 2012, 11:22:08 AM5/15/12
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On May 14, 10:52 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTxMSqWBtc&feature=related

Grow up. Both parties have been up to their ears in this mess for
decades... each, including the party you are
shilling for has its own particular brand of stench... its not
pleasant bud.

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May 15, 2012, 12:06:02 PM5/15/12
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they are to busy exercising their liberty, by suing each other in a
government court.

conservatives/libertarians/fascists do what they are best at doing,
thieving, then calling it liberty:)Rep. Ron Paul the Texas Republican
defrauded the group for about $20k/The group is pushing Paul for
repayment and exploring legal remedies

its hilarious, the looneytarians have to go to a government court to
try and get paid back. what ever happened to the rugged individual
that could stand up for themselves!!!!!!! gee, i wonder if they have
any comprehension, as to what it says about their version of
liberty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_135/Nonprofit_Prods_Ron_Paul_for_Re...

Nonprofit Prods Ron Paul for Repayment of Flights
• By Jonathan Strong
• Roll Call Staff
• May 15, 2012, Midnight

A libertarian organization that paid for plane tickets and other
expenses for Rep. Ron Paul says after an audit that the Texas
Republican defrauded the group for about $20,000. The group is pushing
Paul for repayment and exploring legal remedies.
The Liberty Committee, a nonprofit headed by former Paul aide David
James, said in an April 16 letter that about two-thirds of the 63
airline tickets the group reimbursed Paul for were also paid for by
taxpayers.
“In short, this practice of double or duplicate billing enriched you
while draining funds intended for legitimate projects,” the letter
read.
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said James, who worked for Paul for 18
years and says he still supports the lawmaker’s political message, is
“pursuing a personal grudge” against the Texas Republican. Benton said
Paul will be “happy” to review the allegations.
Paul announced today that he was suspending active campaigning in the
GOP presidential race but will continue to campaign for delegates at
state conventions.
As reported by Roll Call in February, Paul was paid twice on several
occasions for flights between Washington, D.C., and his Congressional
district, receiving reimbursement from taxpayers and also from a
network of political and nonprofit organizations he controlled,
according to public records and Paul’s credit card statements.
Handwritten notations on credit card statements indicate Paul billed
the Liberty Committee, his campaign, his political action committee
and another nonprofit, the Foundation for Rational Economics and
Education, for plane tickets and other expenses for which he also
billed taxpayers.
In all, Roll Call found 26 flights from 1998 to 2005 for which several
layers of documentation show double payments.
But the Liberty Committee audit revealed a new set of flights that it
said were reimbursed twice, bringing the total number of such
instances to 52.
James said the Liberty Committee is exploring legal options to press
for repayment in court, including researching whether the statute of
limitations has expired.
Melanie Sloan, the president of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics
in Washington, said the House Ethics Committee should investigate.
Although the double-billed flights from 1998 to 2005 “fall outside of
the Ethics Committee’s statute of limitations, given the long-standing
pattern of behavior, the Ethics Committee should investigate on its
own as to whether Paul continued this conduct in more recent years,”
Sloan said.
The April 16 Liberty Committee letter demanded repayment within 10
business days. Paul responded in an April 26 letter, writing, “My
records do not show any mistaken reimbursements, but I do take these
matters very seriously. Please send me copies of all the record [sic]
you refer to — invoices, receipts and tickets — and I will have my
staff review them thoroughly to determine if any mistakes were in fact
made.”
On Saturday, Benton said that James “has not sent any records or
documentation of any kind to back up his claims of decade-old double
reimbursement, only a letter demanding $20,000.”
James said he attached a chart documenting the results of the group’s
audit with the April 16 letter.
Roll Call sent the chart, which includes the purchase dates and
itinerary for the plane tickets, the check numbers for the Liberty
Committee payments and the volume and page number of the statement of
disbursement listings of the taxpayer payments for those flights, to
Benton but did not receive further reply from the spokesman.
James discovered a single instance of a double-billed flight in 2005.
Thinking it was accidental, he faxed a letter to Paul’s office,
requesting that the group’s money be returned for the flight. Paul
repaid the $403.70, but the episode strained his relationship with the
Liberty Committee and led to a falling out a year later.
In a subsequent conversation, James raised the issue and Paul “was
very curt, and he simply said, ‘Yep, well, happens all the time,’”
James said.
Paul’s campaign has declined requests to make the Congressman
available for an interview.
In a hallway of the Rayburn House Office Building in late February,
Paul declined to answer questions about the matter.
Like other businesses, Members of Congress submit receipts for
expenses to the House of Representatives administrative office for
reimbursement. A source familiar with the process said these receipts
are reviewed by House auditors and routine errors are found and
corrected but that the office has no capacity to investigate whether a
PAC or other entity is reimbursing Members for the same expenses.
Those expenses are listed in a quarterly statement of disbursements
published by the Chief Administrative Officer of the House.
In 2009, the House released its quarterly expense reports online for
the first time. But Congressional administrators erased a vast array
of details on the expenditures, making it impossible to determine what
much of the money was spent on.
The post-2009 House records offer almost no details. Expenses are
described as “commercial transportation” or “travel subsistence.” In
many cases, the amounts itemized are large enough to suggest numerous
expenses are being grouped together on the same line item, obscuring
the costs of individual purchases.
The changes make it almost impossible to track whether Members are
being paid by taxpayers and other groups for the same items.
Since the Paul story broke, Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.) has introduced
a resolution to strengthen travel reporting requirements in the House.
Quigley’s proposal would require Members to itemize individual travel
expenses, among other things, in order to fill in gaps in publicly
reported data that arose in 2009.
Salley Wood, a spokeswoman for House Administration Chairman Dan
Lungren (R-Calif.), said Lungren is reviewing Quigley’s proposal.

Bret Cahill

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May 15, 2012, 12:17:16 PM5/15/12
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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTxMSqWBtc&feature=related
>
>  they are to busy exercising their liberty, by suing each other in a
> government court.

Oh, it's worse than that.

http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-supporters-ron-paul-partisans-brawl-oklahoma-040405948.html

Don't go to Tampa but if you must go, wear Kevlar and sit next to the
door.

And remember the magic words that are the clue to exit/hit the floor.

"JUST LIKE HITLER!"

In the libertarian mind, if anyone disagrees with anyone, all one side
has to do is say he's "just like Hitler" and then a spree shooting
becomes justified.

Bret Cahill

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May 15, 2012, 12:21:19 PM5/15/12
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> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTxMSqWBtc&feature=related
>
> Grow up.

Face reality:

Tire biters are too busy being envious about socialistic unionized
Germans working 1000 hours/year less than South Koreans to spend any
quality time doing anything.


Bret Cahill


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May 15, 2012, 2:43:46 PM5/15/12
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they will simply boycott unionized businesses, and double down on
shopping at walmart.

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May 15, 2012, 2:42:57 PM5/15/12
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On May 15, 11:17 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTxMSqWBtc&feature=related
>
> >  they are to busy exercising their liberty, by suing each other in a
> > government court.
>
> Oh, it's worse than that.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-supporters-ron-paul-partisans-brawl...
>
> Don't go to Tampa but if you must go, wear Kevlar and sit next to the
> door.
>
> And remember the magic words that are the clue to exit/hit the floor.
>
> "JUST LIKE HITLER!"
>
> In the libertarian mind, if anyone disagrees with anyone, all one side
> has to do is say he's "just like Hitler" and then a spree shooting
> becomes justified.

as the conservative squeezes the trigger repeatedly and the bloody
bodies of the innocent hit the ground with a thud, the conservative
will will think another blow for liberty!!!!!!!

Bret Cahill

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May 15, 2012, 4:16:01 PM5/15/12
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> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aTxMSqWBtc&feature=related
>
> > > Grow up.
>
> > Face reality:
>
> > Tire biters are too busy being envious about socialistic unionized
> > Germans working 1000 hours/year less than South Koreans to spend any
> > quality time doing anything.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
>  they will simply boycott unionized businesses, and double down on
> shopping at walmart.

What Jefferson called an "engine of despotism."

When tire biters have such a miserable quality of life they delight in
executions of the innocent.


Bret Cahill


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May 15, 2012, 8:20:12 PM5/15/12
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