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Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 11:17:27 AM5/12/13
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House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
money on their "investigation."
They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
it.
It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
Bret Cahill
money on their "investigation."
They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
it.
It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
Bret Cahill
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 12, 2013, 11:28:19 AM5/12/13
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What else is new? You having a good Mother's Day Brett?
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 11:30:10 AM5/12/13
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> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> What else is new?
Whitewater?
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> What else is new?
How did that work out for Repugs?
Bret Cahill
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 12, 2013, 11:36:56 AM5/12/13
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Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 11:42:38 AM5/12/13
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> > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > it.
>
> > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > What else is new?
>
> > Whitewater?
>
> > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
> > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > it.
>
> > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > What else is new?
>
> > Whitewater?
>
> > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
> Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
How did wassting $80 and 2 years on Whitewater work out for Repugs?
It resulted in Clinton being the most popular former president.
Keep up the good work!
Bret Cahill
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 12, 2013, 11:54:46 AM5/12/13
to
On May 12, 10:42 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > it.
>
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > What else is new?
>
> > > Whitewater?
>
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
> You dodged the question:
>
> How did wassting $80 and 2 years on Whitewater work out for Repugs?
>
Dunno. Kinda' hard to get anything when the press won't report ANY
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > it.
>
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > What else is new?
>
> > > Whitewater?
>
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
> You dodged the question:
>
> How did wassting $80 and 2 years on Whitewater work out for Repugs?
>
leftwing scandals and poo-poo's everything as a "Vas t rightwing
conspiracy".
> It resulted in Clinton being the most popular former president.
>
worldwide laughingstock.
> Keep up the good work!
>
gives us more ammo. Keep up the good work.
http://www.knowthelies.com/node/8922
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Ryanator
May 12, 2013, 12:04:29 PM5/12/13
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innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
Harold Burton
May 12, 2013, 12:10:40 PM5/12/13
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In article
<9bdd5415-ecb5-484e...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
Like in 2010.
laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh
<9bdd5415-ecb5-484e...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh
Harold Burton
May 12, 2013, 12:13:26 PM5/12/13
to
In article
<d085896e-766d-49c0...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
AWOL accusations.
laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh.
<d085896e-766d-49c0...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > it.
> >
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
> >
> > > > What else is new?
> >
> > > Whitewater?
> >
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
> >
> > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > it.
> >
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
> >
> > > > What else is new?
> >
> > > Whitewater?
> >
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
> >
> > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
AWOL accusations.
laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh.
Harold Burton
May 12, 2013, 12:17:38 PM5/12/13
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In article
<74a424e9-b72e-473d...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
and when you persuade insiders like Susan McDougal not to testify with a
promise of a pardon if she clams up.
<74a424e9-b72e-473d...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
promise of a pardon if she clams up.
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 1:52:11 PM5/12/13
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Obama himself, has told you so.
--
*Rumination*
#30 - Socialism will eventually run out of other people's money and
collapse.
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 12, 2013, 2:03:39 PM5/12/13
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BeamMeUpScotty
'repeatedly tell you something he knows isn�t true?'"
-- Bill Clinton 2012
"If an American president ever lied
to the people of the United States, then he should resign"
-- Bill Clinton, 1974
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/01/energy_obamas_favorit
e_topic_of_deception_113692.html
Energy: Obama's Favorite Topic of Deception
NO PRESIDENT ever before has LIED
as frequently, as Flagrantly or as FOOLISHLY as has Barack Obama.
OBAMA's DEATHSTAR DESTROYED,
NOW DEALS DEATH FROM A PACK OF BASEBALL CARDS.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/barack-obama-drone-
warrior/2012/05/31/gJQAr6zQ5U_story.html
Barack Obama: Drone Warrior
A very strange story, that 6,000-word front-page New York Times piece
on how, every Tuesday, Barack Obama shuffles �baseball cards� with the
pictures and bios of suspected terrorists from around the world and
chooses who shall die by drone strike. He even reserves for himself
the decision of whether to proceed when the probability of killing
family members or bystanders is significant.
OBAMA/2012: COWARD.
DOING THE SAME THING EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY that.
LIBs. What PRICE their FACEBOOK.
---
After TWO DECADES OF DECEIT,
it is INSUFFICIENT to merely unseat OBAMA
we must defeat the LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY that
can operate in the shadows of two decades to inflict its harm.
Good Men can no long do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without becoming an ACCOMPLICE
to an Evil which has no justification, nor does it seek any.
IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
BECAUSE EVIL HAS NO POWER WHEN THE GOOD REMAIN UNAFRAID.
A Taxpayer who Votes for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/123755.jpg
> On 5/12/2013 12:04 PM, Ryanator wrote:
>> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill
>> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill
>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
>> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
>> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
>> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
>> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>>
>> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>>
>
>
> But Obama's got the most *open* administration ever known.....
>
>
> Obama himself, has told you so.
"Who wants a president who�ll
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
>> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
>> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
>> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
>> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>>
>> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>>
>
>
> But Obama's got the most *open* administration ever known.....
>
>
> Obama himself, has told you so.
'repeatedly tell you something he knows isn�t true?'"
-- Bill Clinton 2012
"If an American president ever lied
to the people of the United States, then he should resign"
-- Bill Clinton, 1974
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/01/energy_obamas_favorit
e_topic_of_deception_113692.html
Energy: Obama's Favorite Topic of Deception
NO PRESIDENT ever before has LIED
as frequently, as Flagrantly or as FOOLISHLY as has Barack Obama.
OBAMA's DEATHSTAR DESTROYED,
NOW DEALS DEATH FROM A PACK OF BASEBALL CARDS.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/barack-obama-drone-
warrior/2012/05/31/gJQAr6zQ5U_story.html
Barack Obama: Drone Warrior
A very strange story, that 6,000-word front-page New York Times piece
on how, every Tuesday, Barack Obama shuffles �baseball cards� with the
pictures and bios of suspected terrorists from around the world and
chooses who shall die by drone strike. He even reserves for himself
the decision of whether to proceed when the probability of killing
family members or bystanders is significant.
OBAMA/2012: COWARD.
DOING THE SAME THING EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY that.
LIBs. What PRICE their FACEBOOK.
---
After TWO DECADES OF DECEIT,
it is INSUFFICIENT to merely unseat OBAMA
we must defeat the LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY that
can operate in the shadows of two decades to inflict its harm.
Good Men can no long do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without becoming an ACCOMPLICE
to an Evil which has no justification, nor does it seek any.
IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
BECAUSE EVIL HAS NO POWER WHEN THE GOOD REMAIN UNAFRAID.
A Taxpayer who Votes for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/123755.jpg
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 2:08:12 PM5/12/13
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> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> innocent and pure as the driven snow,
Let's get this correct. BushCo starts a quagmire of mass distraction
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> innocent and pure as the driven snow,
to get reelected -- so his campaign can say, "can't change horses
midstream" -- gets 4,000 Americans needlessly killed and wastes $2
trillion bankrupting the economy and Democrats need to be "innocent
and pure as the driven snow?"
? ? ?
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 2:12:15 PM5/12/13
to
> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> Like in 2010.
The teabag defeat last November is really eating away at Repugs.
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> Like in 2010.
The only thing they can do is waste money on spurious "investigations."
Harold Burton
May 12, 2013, 2:36:58 PM5/12/13
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In article
<12d6d1f5-4cc3-4d0f...@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
> BushCo starts a quagmire of mass distraction to get reelected
So did Democrat Lyndon Johnson, but it worked better for Dubya than for
"Landslide Lyndon"
<12d6d1f5-4cc3-4d0f...@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > it.
> >
> > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > innocent and pure as the driven snow,
>
> Let's get this correct.
Not much chance of your doing that.
> > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > it.
> >
> > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > innocent and pure as the driven snow,
>
> Let's get this correct.
> BushCo starts a quagmire of mass distraction to get reelected
"Landslide Lyndon"
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 2:41:50 PM5/12/13
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> > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> AWOL accusations.
The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
> > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> AWOL accusations.
-- much like Benhgazi -- the first time around.
Dan Rather should have been fired more on hyping a non issue four
years after it was determined to be a non issues than on getting duped
by Republicans with a bogus letter.
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2013, 2:45:34 PM5/12/13
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> > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > it.
>
> > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > > innocent and pure as the driven snow,
>
> > Let's get this correct.
> > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > > > it.
>
> > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > > innocent and pure as the driven snow,
>
> > Let's get this correct.
BushCo starts a quagmire of mass distraction
to get reelected -- so his campaign can say, "can't change horses
midstream" -- gets 4,000 Americans needlessly killed and wastes $2
trillion bankrupting the economy and Democrats need to be "innocent
midstream" -- gets 4,000 Americans needlessly killed and wastes $2
and pure as the driven snow?"
No answer?
? ? ?
. . .
> > BushCo starts a quagmire of mass distraction to get reelected
>
> So did Democrat Lyndon Johnson,
> but it worked better for Dubya than for
> "Landslide Lyndon"
anyone in 1992, 1996 and 2008 and 2012.
Bret Cahill
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 2:50:43 PM5/12/13
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On 5/12/2013 2:12 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>
>> Like in 2010.
>
> The teabag defeat last November is really eating away at Repugs.
>
NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>
>> Like in 2010.
>
> The teabag defeat last November is really eating away at Repugs.
>
annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
government.....
That is the *ultimate example* of why BIG government is tyrannical.
And didn't Obama just finish LYIng to us all by telling us NOT to
believe anyone that calls Government tyrannical. Funny isn't it that
the same week he tells you that lie, his own IRS tells you they acted
like a TYRANNICAL government agency and violated the *RIGHTS* OF WE THE
PEOPLE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7T7Y866kf4
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 2:56:00 PM5/12/13
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Embassy in a place we had been at war with just a few months earlier?
Obama's stupidity does seem to out-shine Bush's stupidity by a huge amount.
--
*Rumination*
#51 - Leading a Nation ain't like making spaghetti where you throw
everything against the wall "and when something sticks" you're done.
Clave
May 12, 2013, 4:48:41 PM5/12/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
<...>
> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
> government.....
their own.
Jim
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 4:59:55 PM5/12/13
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Socialist game plan.... this is proof of that.
My first thought is that Obama coerced them like the Chicago Thug that
he is, maybe a gentle nudge that their secrets will come out into public
or their kids will be targeted for retribution when they reach working
age..... any number of veiled threats.
The other is that Obama has his own people in the Union doing the
organizing of the workers to attack the TEA PARTY
I would BET that there are plenty of UNION plans and undertakings to
target the TEA PARTY and other enemies of Obama and his Socialist pals.
--
*Rumination*
#52 - Socialism is a philosophy of mediocrity, a creed of intolerance,
and a feeling of malice towards the good fortune of others!
Clave
May 12, 2013, 5:08:26 PM5/12/13
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> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>> government.....
>>
>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>> their own.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Obama can work around....
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>> government.....
>>
>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>> their own.
>>
>> Jim
>
This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
Jim
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:42:15 PM5/12/13
to
On 5/12/2013 5:08 PM, Clave wrote:
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>> government.....
>>>
>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>> their own.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
Obama runs the IRS and the Justice Dept. Obama runs the EPA all the
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>> government.....
>>>
>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>> their own.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
things he said he could use to go around congress, that pretty much was
a way of saying he could go around the constitution and any laws that
stood in his way as well as the congress if it stood in his way.
Obama has said he will use executive orders to do anything he can't get
congress to do.
If it's federal then Obama Has everything to do with it.
Obama has said he will get immigration to do what he wants and he is
ignoring the law and refusing to deport anyone that was a child when
they arrived here.
Are you hearing any of this ?
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 12, 2013, 5:43:18 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
> >> messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
pinned on Obama?
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
> >> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
> >> messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> >> <...>
>
> >>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
> >>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
> >>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
> >>> government.....
>
> >> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
> >> their own.
>
> >> Jim
>
> > Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> Jim- Hide quoted text -
> >> <...>
>
> >>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
> >>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
> >>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
> >>> government.....
>
> >> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
> >> their own.
>
> >> Jim
>
> > Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
> - Show quoted text -
pinned on Obama?
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:44:45 PM5/12/13
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On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:
Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for everything.
wrote:
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:46:22 PM5/12/13
to
On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:
wrote:
Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for everything.
I'm getting tired of Bush, it would be great if Obama would awaken from
his Coma and start to run the Nation.....
Sid9
May 12, 2013, 5:48:26 PM5/12/13
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"Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
news:kmp067$p32$1...@dont-email.me...
He asserts that he pay ho federal taxes.
He also claims receives no federal benefits...even though he pay no taxes
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:49:20 PM5/12/13
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On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
wrote:
wrote:
Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for everything.
I'm getting tired of Bush, it would be great if Obama would awaken from
his Coma and start to run the Nation.....
Obama will be remembered in History as the President that never worked a
I'm getting tired of Bush, it would be great if Obama would awaken from
his Coma and start to run the Nation.....
day as President because Bush did everything.
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:50:52 PM5/12/13
to
I am a tea party follower, by attacking them the IRS is attacking MY
freedom of association.
Clave
May 12, 2013, 5:52:39 PM5/12/13
to
"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:W0Ujt.32$wn...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 5/12/2013 5:08 PM, Clave wrote:
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to
>>>>> squash
>>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of
>>>>> BIG
>>>>> government.....
>>>>
>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>>> their own.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Obama can work around....
>>
>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>
>
> Obama runs...
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to
>>>>> squash
>>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of
>>>>> BIG
>>>>> government.....
>>>>
>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>>> their own.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Obama can work around....
>>
>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>
>
Every single detail of every agency that reports to him.
Right, k00k.
Jim
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:57:47 PM5/12/13
to
On 5/12/2013 5:08 PM, Clave wrote:
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>> government.....
>>>
>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>> their own.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peECAPrA_2g
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> message news:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> message news:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> <...>
>>>
>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>> government.....
>>>
>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>> their own.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Obama can work around....
>
> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 5:58:22 PM5/12/13
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Clave
May 12, 2013, 6:07:00 PM5/12/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:x7Ujt.35$wn3...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
Yes? Then quit pissing yourself and shut the fuck up.
Jim
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 6:54:59 PM5/12/13
to
were Unionized government employees weren't they?
Obviously there needs to be some kind of investigation by some third
party person.
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 6:57:33 PM5/12/13
to
On 5/12/2013 6:06 PM, Denny wrote:
> Ryanator <Ryan...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> day. Keep it up. We enjoy it so.
>
Yet it's your kind that insist on hiding everything.
> Ryanator <Ryan...@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 10:17=A0am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
>> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
>> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
>> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
>> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>>
>> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>
> Another evil conspiracy! Release the emails! You people look sillier every
>> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
>> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
>> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>>
>> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>
> day. Keep it up. We enjoy it so.
>
Yet it's your kind that insist on hiding everything.
Clave
May 12, 2013, 7:00:58 PM5/12/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:65Vjt.39$wn3...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
<...>
> NO proof that Shulman was the one that organize the behavior...
Typical batshit wingnut consistency.
Jim
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 12, 2013, 7:21:36 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 5:02 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
> Mince Foster? That's a name you don't hear every day. Those were the days.
> The rise of Rush Limbaugh and the neo-loony right.- Hide quoted text -
Pie"?? Oh, you might be referring to Vince Foster. You know the guy
that was a Deputy White House Counsel during the first few months of
President Bill Clinton's administration, and also a law partner and
friend of Hillary Rodham Clinton. He was found in Fort Marcy Park with
three bulletholes in his head and suicide note in his pocket.
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 12, 10:30=A0am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > and money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years
> > > > > on it.
>
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=3DLie
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 12, 10:30=A0am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > and money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years
> > > > > on it.
>
> > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
>
> > > > What else is new?
>
> > > Whitewater?
>
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster? Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> > > > What else is new?
>
> > > Whitewater?
>
> > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
> Mince Foster? That's a name you don't hear every day. Those were the days.
> The rise of Rush Limbaugh and the neo-loony right.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hoodafukk is "Mince Foster"?? Was he the father of the "MinceMeat
> - Show quoted text -
Pie"?? Oh, you might be referring to Vince Foster. You know the guy
that was a Deputy White House Counsel during the first few months of
President Bill Clinton's administration, and also a law partner and
friend of Hillary Rodham Clinton. He was found in Fort Marcy Park with
three bulletholes in his head and suicide note in his pocket.
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 7:46:34 PM5/12/13
to
What do all the police tell you, they say that there is a motive and
opportunity.
Nickname unavailable
May 12, 2013, 7:49:11 PM5/12/13
to
On May 12, 10:28 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What else is new? You having a good Mother's Day Brett?
cartoonist winger dingers ask why didn't hillary send in stallion or
arnold:))) Bush’s Secretary of Defense Mocks GOP Attacks On Obama’s
Handling Of Benghazi. “It’s sort of a cartoonish impression of
military capabilities and military forces,” he said. “The one thing
that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we
send people in harm’s way, and there just wasn’t time to do that.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/12/1998811/bushs-secretary-of-defense-mocks-gop-attacks-on-obamas-handling-of-benghazi/
Bush’s Secretary of Defense Mocks GOP Attacks On Obama’s Handling Of
Benghazi
By Adam Peck on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 am
Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a Republican who was
appointed to the position by George W. Bush, told CBS News on Saturday
that he would have handled the situation in Benghazi the same way that
the Obama administration did last September.
During an interview that aired on CBS’ Face the Nation on Sunday
morning, Gates defended the administration’s reaction to the attacks
in Libya and dismissed many of the criticisms leveled by his fellow
Republicans as “cartoonish”:
“Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions
would have been just as theirs were,” said Gates, now the chancellor
of the College of William and Mary.
“We don’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so
getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult,
if not impossible.” he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers
to “scare them with the noise or something,” Gates said, ignored the
“number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former
Libyan leader] Qaddafi’s arsenals.” [...] Another suggestion posed by
some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, “send some
small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what
the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having
any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground,
would have been very dangerous.”
“It’s sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and
military forces,” he said. “The one thing that our forces are noted
for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way,
and there just wasn’t time to do that.”
Gates also defended former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who has
increasingly become the subject of Republican criticism. Gates
responded with a simple and emphatic “no” when asked if he believed
Clinton could possibly be involved in any sort of a cover up, as some
Republicans have baselessly suggested.
Republicans have refused to put their Benghazi obsession to rest,
focusing on discrepancies between talking points and agency infighting
rather than addressing ways to prevent future attacks and finding out
who was responsible for the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and
three other colleagues. Critics have accused Republicans of turning
their Benghazi hearing into a political circus, trying to hang the
attack on Hillary Clinton to hurt her chances of a possible run for
the White House in 2016.
rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
>
> What else is new? You having a good Mother's Day Brett?
cartoonist winger dingers ask why didn't hillary send in stallion or
arnold:))) Bush’s Secretary of Defense Mocks GOP Attacks On Obama’s
Handling Of Benghazi. “It’s sort of a cartoonish impression of
military capabilities and military forces,” he said. “The one thing
that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we
send people in harm’s way, and there just wasn’t time to do that.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/12/1998811/bushs-secretary-of-defense-mocks-gop-attacks-on-obamas-handling-of-benghazi/
Bush’s Secretary of Defense Mocks GOP Attacks On Obama’s Handling Of
Benghazi
By Adam Peck on May 12, 2013 at 11:49 am
Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a Republican who was
appointed to the position by George W. Bush, told CBS News on Saturday
that he would have handled the situation in Benghazi the same way that
the Obama administration did last September.
During an interview that aired on CBS’ Face the Nation on Sunday
morning, Gates defended the administration’s reaction to the attacks
in Libya and dismissed many of the criticisms leveled by his fellow
Republicans as “cartoonish”:
“Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions
would have been just as theirs were,” said Gates, now the chancellor
of the College of William and Mary.
“We don’t have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so
getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult,
if not impossible.” he explained.
Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers
to “scare them with the noise or something,” Gates said, ignored the
“number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former
Libyan leader] Qaddafi’s arsenals.” [...] Another suggestion posed by
some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, “send some
small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what
the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having
any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground,
would have been very dangerous.”
“It’s sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and
military forces,” he said. “The one thing that our forces are noted
for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm’s way,
and there just wasn’t time to do that.”
Gates also defended former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who has
increasingly become the subject of Republican criticism. Gates
responded with a simple and emphatic “no” when asked if he believed
Clinton could possibly be involved in any sort of a cover up, as some
Republicans have baselessly suggested.
Republicans have refused to put their Benghazi obsession to rest,
focusing on discrepancies between talking points and agency infighting
rather than addressing ways to prevent future attacks and finding out
who was responsible for the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and
three other colleagues. Critics have accused Republicans of turning
their Benghazi hearing into a political circus, trying to hang the
attack on Hillary Clinton to hurt her chances of a possible run for
the White House in 2016.
Nickname unavailable
May 12, 2013, 7:50:33 PM5/12/13
to
On May 12, 11:04 am, Ryanator <Ryana...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> > money on their "investigation."
>
> > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> > it.
>
> > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>
> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>
> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
Nickname unavailable
May 12, 2013, 7:51:23 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 11:17 am, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <74a424e9-b72e-473d-8a1a-724ee60fb...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > How did wassting $80 and 2 years on Whitewater work out for Repugs?
>
> > Dunno. Kinda' hard to get anything when the press won't report ANY
> > leftwing scandals and poo-poo's everything as a "Vas t rightwing
> > conspiracy".
>
> and when you persuade insiders like Susan McDougal not to testify with a
> promise of a pardon if she clams up.
when are you going to apologize for calling our WWII vets war
criminals.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/e891055dbf97c108?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=ol&
Harold Burton
View profile
More options May 19, 8:14 pm
In article
<90d4c035-5a00-4dc5-b0c5-3b981dc6d...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Well doh. Democrat FDR proved that in the 40s when he firebombed
thousands of innocent women and children in Dresden, Tokyo and
numerous
other cities.
snicker
you were responded to promptly by a patriot.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
While It's ALWAYS DISconcerting To Encounter a HOPELESS IGNORAMUS,
it is Conversely, a GREAT PLEASURE To Illustrate - And Hopefully
DISSIPATE - The HARM of The DEPENDABLY, Self-Serving, Fact-
INTOLERANT, Delusional And INTRACTABLE IGNORANCE of such Notable
RighTARDS as "Harold Burton"...
THUS: The Rationale For AND Decision To Bomb [FIRST With High-
Explosives, THEN With Incendiaries] Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] Was a - Waaaaait Forrr Iiiiiit - *British* Undertaking...
FDR's Involvement being Limited To his Administration's LONG-Standing
Acquiescence To Placing [American] Eighth Air Force assets At The
Disposal Of British Air Marshalls... As Would Be Expected Of a GOOD
War-Time Ally...
ERGO: *The British* Bombed Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] employing Combined Military Assets of British and American
Forces... The *British* FIRST Low-Level Attacking at *Night*, Per
British Strategy; American Forces [Under *British* Command] High-
Level Attacking by Next Daylight...
ERGO - The Sequel: CONTRARY To Harold The RighTARD's HOPELESSLY
IGNORANT And Self-Serving, Ignoramus-Speak Blather, FDR had LITTLE OR
NOTHING To Do With The Bombing Of Dresden and Most Likely, Wasn't
Even Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb
Several East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian
Advance...
even after knowing the slaughter of americans in the Philippines,
and all of the other atrocities commited by them, they would have to
be worn down, as they tried to do to us.
and here is your response, you defended the nazis, and now you defend
the imperialists japanese.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
The CiC takes ultimate responsibility for what our armed services do.
The buck stopped at FDR's desk.
> . . . .and Most Likely, Wasn't Even
> Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb Several
> East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian Advance...
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Now THAT's even funnier.
I also notice you did your best to ignore the firebombing of
Tokyo . . . and Osaka . . . and Kobe . . . and Fukuoka . . . and,
oh hell just check out http://www.ditext.com/japan/napalm.html. How
are you going to blame that on the Brits?
then i demanded a apology,
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
and he owes WWII vets a apology.
you said,
Just as you owe sentient beings an apology
Hahahahahahahahahahah
you sir are not only a liar, but a unpatriotic one at that.
and you added this recently
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/3803f1d64d8e4b45/5d73a1560313be84?hl=en&
. . . and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians.
snicker
> In article
> <74a424e9-b72e-473d-8a1a-724ee60fb...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 12, 10:42 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > > > What else is new?
>
>
> > > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
>
> > > > Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> > > > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > > > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
> > > You dodged the question:
> > > > Btw, how'd 950+ FBI files on
> > > > Clinton'e "enemy list" wind up in the Clinton Whitehouse? Oh, I
> > > > forgot. It was a vast rightwing conspiracy.
>
>
> > > How did wassting $80 and 2 years on Whitewater work out for Repugs?
>
> > Dunno. Kinda' hard to get anything when the press won't report ANY
> > leftwing scandals and poo-poo's everything as a "Vas t rightwing
> > conspiracy".
>
> and when you persuade insiders like Susan McDougal not to testify with a
> promise of a pardon if she clams up.
when are you going to apologize for calling our WWII vets war
criminals.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/e891055dbf97c108?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=ol&
Harold Burton
View profile
More options May 19, 8:14 pm
In article
<90d4c035-5a00-4dc5-b0c5-3b981dc6d...@s9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Well doh. Democrat FDR proved that in the 40s when he firebombed
thousands of innocent women and children in Dresden, Tokyo and
numerous
other cities.
snicker
you were responded to promptly by a patriot.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
While It's ALWAYS DISconcerting To Encounter a HOPELESS IGNORAMUS,
it is Conversely, a GREAT PLEASURE To Illustrate - And Hopefully
DISSIPATE - The HARM of The DEPENDABLY, Self-Serving, Fact-
INTOLERANT, Delusional And INTRACTABLE IGNORANCE of such Notable
RighTARDS as "Harold Burton"...
THUS: The Rationale For AND Decision To Bomb [FIRST With High-
Explosives, THEN With Incendiaries] Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] Was a - Waaaaait Forrr Iiiiiit - *British* Undertaking...
FDR's Involvement being Limited To his Administration's LONG-Standing
Acquiescence To Placing [American] Eighth Air Force assets At The
Disposal Of British Air Marshalls... As Would Be Expected Of a GOOD
War-Time Ally...
ERGO: *The British* Bombed Dresden [Among OTHER High-Value
Targets] employing Combined Military Assets of British and American
Forces... The *British* FIRST Low-Level Attacking at *Night*, Per
British Strategy; American Forces [Under *British* Command] High-
Level Attacking by Next Daylight...
ERGO - The Sequel: CONTRARY To Harold The RighTARD's HOPELESSLY
IGNORANT And Self-Serving, Ignoramus-Speak Blather, FDR had LITTLE OR
NOTHING To Do With The Bombing Of Dresden and Most Likely, Wasn't
Even Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb
Several East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian
Advance...
even after knowing the slaughter of americans in the Philippines,
and all of the other atrocities commited by them, they would have to
be worn down, as they tried to do to us.
and here is your response, you defended the nazis, and now you defend
the imperialists japanese.
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
The CiC takes ultimate responsibility for what our armed services do.
The buck stopped at FDR's desk.
> . . . .and Most Likely, Wasn't Even
> Aware that The British High Command had Determined To Bomb Several
> East German Cities, In Aid Of The Burgeoning Russian Advance...
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Now THAT's even funnier.
I also notice you did your best to ignore the firebombing of
Tokyo . . . and Osaka . . . and Kobe . . . and Fukuoka . . . and,
oh hell just check out http://www.ditext.com/japan/napalm.html. How
are you going to blame that on the Brits?
then i demanded a apology,
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/8455997cbba5630d/b08042a9da25f19f?hl=en&q=Harold+Burton++world+war+two&lnk=nl&
and he owes WWII vets a apology.
you said,
Just as you owe sentient beings an apology
Hahahahahahahahahahah
you sir are not only a liar, but a unpatriotic one at that.
and you added this recently
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/3803f1d64d8e4b45/5d73a1560313be84?hl=en&
. . . and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians.
snicker
Nickname unavailable
May 12, 2013, 7:52:35 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 1:03 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/12/2013 12:04 PM, Ryanator wrote:
> >> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill
>
> > Obama himself, has told you so.
>
> "Who wants a president who ll
> 'repeatedly tell you something he knows isn t true?'"
> -- Bill Clinton 2012
>
> "If an American president ever lied
> to the people of the United States, then he should resign"
> -- Bill Clinton, 1974
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/01/energy_obamas_fa...
> e_topic_of_deception_113692.html
>
> Energy: Obama's Favorite Topic of Deception
>
> NO PRESIDENT ever before has LIED
> as frequently, as Flagrantly or as FOOLISHLY as has Barack Obama.
>
> OBAMA's DEATHSTAR DESTROYED,
> NOW DEALS DEATH FROM A PACK OF BASEBALL CARDS.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/barack-obama-drone-
> warrior/2012/05/31/gJQAr6zQ5U_story.html
> Barack Obama: Drone Warrior
>
> A very strange story, that 6,000-word front-page New York Times piece
> on how, every Tuesday, Barack Obama shuffles baseball cards with the
> pictures and bios of suspected terrorists from around the world and
> chooses who shall die by drone strike. He even reserves for himself
> the decision of whether to proceed when the probability of killing
> family members or bystanders is significant.
>
> OBAMA/2012: COWARD.
> DOING THE SAME THING EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.
>
> "to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
> and other potential adversaries around the world that
> they can change our policies by killing our people.
> It would be open season on Americans."
> -- Bill Clinton '93
> just before he pulled out of Somalia.
>
> To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
> alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
> keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of
> additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
> -- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY that.
>
> LIBs. What PRICE their FACEBOOK.
> ---
> After TWO DECADES OF DECEIT,
> it is INSUFFICIENT to merely unseat OBAMA
> we must defeat the LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY that
> can operate in the shadows of two decades to inflict its harm.
> Good Men can no long do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without becoming an ACCOMPLICE
> to an Evil which has no justification, nor does it seek any.
>
> IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
> BECAUSE EVIL HAS NO POWER WHEN THE GOOD REMAIN UNAFRAID.
>
> A Taxpayer who Votes for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders.http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/123755.jpg
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 5/12/2013 12:04 PM, Ryanator wrote:
> >> On May 12, 10:17 am, Bret Cahill
> >>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time and
> >>> money on their "investigation."
>
> >>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> >>> it.
>
> >>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> >>> Bret Cahill
>
> >>> money on their "investigation."
>
> >>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2 years on
> >>> it.
>
> >>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> >>> Bret Cahill
>
> >> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> >> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
> >> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
> >> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
> >> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>
> >> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>
> > But Obama's got the most *open* administration ever known.....
> >> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense for
> >> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting whistleblowers?
> >> Think about it, all critics could be silenced immediately if Obama
> >> would just release the emails which would prove him innocent.
>
> >> And yet he continues to hide the emails. Strange.
>
>
> > Obama himself, has told you so.
>
> "Who wants a president who ll
> 'repeatedly tell you something he knows isn t true?'"
> -- Bill Clinton 2012
>
> "If an American president ever lied
> to the people of the United States, then he should resign"
> -- Bill Clinton, 1974
>
> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/01/energy_obamas_fa...
> e_topic_of_deception_113692.html
>
> Energy: Obama's Favorite Topic of Deception
>
> NO PRESIDENT ever before has LIED
> as frequently, as Flagrantly or as FOOLISHLY as has Barack Obama.
>
> OBAMA's DEATHSTAR DESTROYED,
> NOW DEALS DEATH FROM A PACK OF BASEBALL CARDS.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/barack-obama-drone-
> warrior/2012/05/31/gJQAr6zQ5U_story.html
> Barack Obama: Drone Warrior
>
> A very strange story, that 6,000-word front-page New York Times piece
> on how, every Tuesday, Barack Obama shuffles baseball cards with the
> pictures and bios of suspected terrorists from around the world and
> chooses who shall die by drone strike. He even reserves for himself
> the decision of whether to proceed when the probability of killing
> family members or bystanders is significant.
>
> OBAMA/2012: COWARD.
> DOING THE SAME THING EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.
>
> "to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
> and other potential adversaries around the world that
> they can change our policies by killing our people.
> It would be open season on Americans."
> -- Bill Clinton '93
> just before he pulled out of Somalia.
>
> To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
> alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
> keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of
> additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
> -- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY that.
>
> LIBs. What PRICE their FACEBOOK.
> ---
> After TWO DECADES OF DECEIT,
> it is INSUFFICIENT to merely unseat OBAMA
> we must defeat the LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY that
> can operate in the shadows of two decades to inflict its harm.
> Good Men can no long do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING without becoming an ACCOMPLICE
> to an Evil which has no justification, nor does it seek any.
>
> IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT
> BECAUSE EVIL HAS NO POWER WHEN THE GOOD REMAIN UNAFRAID.
>
> A Taxpayer who Votes for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders.http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/123755.jpg
Sid9
May 12, 2013, 8:00:22 PM5/12/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:65Vjt.39$wn3...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
We don't have one now.
We only have an "Acting IRS Commissioner"
I wonder if that's part of the Republican obstruction strategy?
Why do you care?
You don't pay any federal taxes, you say.
Nickname unavailable
May 12, 2013, 8:04:15 PM5/12/13
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Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New From His Benghazi
Hearing: Issa’s hearing didn’t expose anything, except perhaps how
fact-free a number of right-wing Benghazi conspiracy theories are,
including the idea that Clinton personally signed off on cables
denying additional security for the U.S. diplomatic mission in
Benghazi.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/09/1987061/issa-hearing-benghazi/
Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New From His Benghazi
Hearing
By Ben Armbruster on May 9, 2013 at 11:09 am
House Oversight Committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) tacitly
admitted on Wednesday that his hearing on the Benghazi terror attacks
the same day didn’t turn up any new information.
“I’m curious, did you learn anything new today?” Fox News host Greta
Van Susteren asked Issa in an interview after the hearing. After
meandering around for a bit, Issa finally got to the hearing’s grand
revelation — Benghazi was a terror attack:
ISSA: I think the American people learned today from these brave
witnesses, these whistleblowers, that the facts as we were told before
during and after the attack at Benghazi just simply aren’t what they
really were. The acting ambassador after Ambassador Stevens was
murdered, told us in great detail about what happened that day and
what happened in the days to follow and why we should know that he
knew and everyone else in the mission knew from the moment it
happened, from the get-go, as he said, that this was a terrorist
attack.
While indeed, former deputy chief of mission Greg Hicks’ testimony
detailing his experiences as the attacks on the Benghazi diplomatic
mission unfolded was new and riveting. But it didn’t have much to do
with what Issa himself said the mission of the hearing would be:
expose more Obama administration failures and perhaps even some kind
of cover-up (of what, is unclear exactly). “Our hearing will examine
new facts about what happened and significant problems with the
administration’s own review of Benghazi failures,” Issa said
previewing the hearing last month. “This committee will expose what
they did and hold them accountable to the public.”
There’s “no question,” Issa said two days before the hearing, that
former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s staff or even Clinton
herself, was involved in a Benghazi “cover-up” (there was no cover-up
of any kind, by anyone).
However, Issa’s hearing didn’t expose anything, except perhaps how
fact-free a number of right-wing Benghazi conspiracy theories are,
including the idea that Clinton personally signed off on cables
denying additional security for the U.S. diplomatic mission in
Benghazi.
But as far as labeling Benghazi a terror attack, that issue has been
settled long ago. President Obama referred to it as an “act of terror”
the day after the attack and directly referred to the incident as “a
terrorist attack” two weeks later. Issa probably didn’t need a hours-
long hearing to get confirmation on that.
Hearing: Issa’s hearing didn’t expose anything, except perhaps how
fact-free a number of right-wing Benghazi conspiracy theories are,
including the idea that Clinton personally signed off on cables
denying additional security for the U.S. diplomatic mission in
Benghazi.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/09/1987061/issa-hearing-benghazi/
Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New From His Benghazi
Hearing
By Ben Armbruster on May 9, 2013 at 11:09 am
House Oversight Committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) tacitly
admitted on Wednesday that his hearing on the Benghazi terror attacks
the same day didn’t turn up any new information.
“I’m curious, did you learn anything new today?” Fox News host Greta
Van Susteren asked Issa in an interview after the hearing. After
meandering around for a bit, Issa finally got to the hearing’s grand
revelation — Benghazi was a terror attack:
ISSA: I think the American people learned today from these brave
witnesses, these whistleblowers, that the facts as we were told before
during and after the attack at Benghazi just simply aren’t what they
really were. The acting ambassador after Ambassador Stevens was
murdered, told us in great detail about what happened that day and
what happened in the days to follow and why we should know that he
knew and everyone else in the mission knew from the moment it
happened, from the get-go, as he said, that this was a terrorist
attack.
While indeed, former deputy chief of mission Greg Hicks’ testimony
detailing his experiences as the attacks on the Benghazi diplomatic
mission unfolded was new and riveting. But it didn’t have much to do
with what Issa himself said the mission of the hearing would be:
expose more Obama administration failures and perhaps even some kind
of cover-up (of what, is unclear exactly). “Our hearing will examine
new facts about what happened and significant problems with the
administration’s own review of Benghazi failures,” Issa said
previewing the hearing last month. “This committee will expose what
they did and hold them accountable to the public.”
There’s “no question,” Issa said two days before the hearing, that
former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s staff or even Clinton
herself, was involved in a Benghazi “cover-up” (there was no cover-up
of any kind, by anyone).
However, Issa’s hearing didn’t expose anything, except perhaps how
fact-free a number of right-wing Benghazi conspiracy theories are,
including the idea that Clinton personally signed off on cables
denying additional security for the U.S. diplomatic mission in
Benghazi.
But as far as labeling Benghazi a terror attack, that issue has been
settled long ago. President Obama referred to it as an “act of terror”
the day after the attack and directly referred to the incident as “a
terrorist attack” two weeks later. Issa probably didn’t need a hours-
long hearing to get confirmation on that.
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May 12, 2013, 8:06:46 PM5/12/13
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On May 12, 4:43 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
poll after poll after poll confirms americans despise "CONSERVATISM"
and its failed policies: The change in attitudes on the Iraq war, in
particular, in many ways sealed the fate of George W. Bush as the most
unpopular second-term president in political polling dating back
nearly 80 years
http://news.yahoo.com/decade-most-critical-u-led-war-iraq-110806826--abc-news-politics.html
A Decade on, Most are Critical of the U.S.-Led War in Iraq
By Gary Langer | ABC OTUS News – 5 hrs ago
Ten years after U.S. airstrikes on Baghdad punctuated the start of the
Iraq war, nearly six in 10 Americans say the war was not worth
fighting - a judgment shared by majorities steadily since initial
success gave way to years of continued conflict.
Nearly as many in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say the
same about the war in Afghanistan. And while criticisms of both wars
are down from their peaks, the intensity of sentiment remains high,
with strong critics far outweighing strong supporters.
See PDF with full results, charts and tables here.
A key reason: A substantial sense that neither war did much to achieve
their goals of enhancing U.S. security. Only about half of Americans
say either war contributed to the long-term security of the United
States, and just two in 10 say either contributed "a great deal" to
U.S. security - clearly insufficient, in the minds of most, to justify
their costs in lives and lucre.
WORTH IT? - As such, 58 percent in this poll, produced for ABC by
Langer Research Associates, say that considering its costs vs. its
benefits the war in Iraq was not worth fighting; 56 percent say the
same about the war in Afghanistan.
These results are dramatically different than they were when the wars
began long ago. The war in Iraq, a few weeks after its start on March
20, 2003, was supported by 80 percent of Americans; in Afghanistan, in
late 2001, support exceeded 90 percent. In neither case, it seems, did
the public expect conflicts as long, as complicated and as costly as
ultimately transpired.
Similarly, at the time of the fall of Baghdad at the end of April
2003, 70 percent of Americans described the Iraq war as worth fighting
- nearly twice as many as do so today.
Nor did the war go over well in Iraq, as shown in a series of six
exclusive polls there by ABC and other media partners from 2004
through 2009. Never did a majority of Iraqis support the U.S.-led war;
by 2009, given the toll of the invasion and ensuing years of violence,
56 percent said it was wrong for the United States and its coalition
allies to invade.
LESSON - The course of U.S. public opinion underscores a consistent
political lesson: Hell hath no fury like an unpopular war. Public
rejection of the Iraq war, in particular, irreparably damaged the
presidency of George W. Bush; declining support for the war and Bush's
falling approval rating across his second term correlated almost
perfectly - at .95, with 1 a perfect fit. That's perhaps an impetus
for the Obama administration's efforts to wind down the U.S. presence
in Afghanistan.
Criticism of both wars has been higher than it is currently, likely
reflecting the U.S. departure from Iraq and the reduced intensity of
fighting in Afghanistan. In April 2007, at the height of the post-
invasion conflict in Iraq, a peak of 66 percent called that war not
worth fighting. Just less than a year ago an identical two-thirds said
the same about the war in Afghanistan.
SECURITY - As noted, views of the wars' contribution to security
strongly influence these assessments. Just 21 percent say the war in
Iraq contributed a great deal to long-term U.S. security; among them,
70 percent say the war was worth fighting. Among those say the war
contributed "somewhat" to security, 59 percent say it was worth it.
But among those who say it didn't enhance U.S. security at all, a vast
83 percent say the Iraq war was not worth fighting. The breakdowns on
Afghanistan are almost identical.
In terms of intensity, 43 percent of Americans feel "strongly" that
the Iraq war was not worth fighting, more than twice as many as the
number who feel strongly that its benefits did justify its costs, 19
percent. The divisions on Afghanistan, again, are very similar, 38
strongly critical vs. 18 percent strongly in support.
There are lingering political and ideological differences in views on
Iraq, with support much higher among Republicans and conservatives
compared with others. Fifty-seven percent of Republicans and 55
percent of conservatives say the war was worth fighting; just 35
percent of independents and 27 percent of Democrats, respectively,
agree, as do just three in 10 liberals and moderates alike. Results on
Afghanistan are similar among partisan groups.
HISTORY - The change in attitudes on the Iraq war, in particular, in
many ways sealed the fate of George W. Bush as the most unpopular
second-term president in political polling dating back nearly 80
years. Support for the war ebbed after the fall of Baghdad passed, yet
the conflict continued; as noted, Bush's popularity faded with it.
By February 2004, just short of a year after it started, 50 percent of
Americans said the war was not worth fighting; it reached a majority
that June and stayed there, with just three exceptions, in 52 ABC/Post
polls across the ensuing nine years.
In one notable exchange, in March 2008, ABC's Martha Raddatz asked
then-Vice President Dick Cheney about the public's dissatisfaction
with the war. Cheney said: "You cannot be blown off course by the
fluctuations in the public opinion polls." At that point, about six in
10 Americans or more had described the war as "not worth fighting"
continuously for two years.
Today, five years later, nearly six in 10 still do.
METHODOLOGY - This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by
telephone March 7-10, 2013, among a random national sample of 1,001
adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results
have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points, including design
effect. Partisan divisions are 33-25-35 percent, Democrats-Republicans-
independents.
The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of
New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-
SRBI of New York, N.Y.
and its failed policies: The change in attitudes on the Iraq war, in
particular, in many ways sealed the fate of George W. Bush as the most
unpopular second-term president in political polling dating back
nearly 80 years
http://news.yahoo.com/decade-most-critical-u-led-war-iraq-110806826--abc-news-politics.html
A Decade on, Most are Critical of the U.S.-Led War in Iraq
By Gary Langer | ABC OTUS News – 5 hrs ago
Ten years after U.S. airstrikes on Baghdad punctuated the start of the
Iraq war, nearly six in 10 Americans say the war was not worth
fighting - a judgment shared by majorities steadily since initial
success gave way to years of continued conflict.
Nearly as many in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say the
same about the war in Afghanistan. And while criticisms of both wars
are down from their peaks, the intensity of sentiment remains high,
with strong critics far outweighing strong supporters.
See PDF with full results, charts and tables here.
A key reason: A substantial sense that neither war did much to achieve
their goals of enhancing U.S. security. Only about half of Americans
say either war contributed to the long-term security of the United
States, and just two in 10 say either contributed "a great deal" to
U.S. security - clearly insufficient, in the minds of most, to justify
their costs in lives and lucre.
WORTH IT? - As such, 58 percent in this poll, produced for ABC by
Langer Research Associates, say that considering its costs vs. its
benefits the war in Iraq was not worth fighting; 56 percent say the
same about the war in Afghanistan.
These results are dramatically different than they were when the wars
began long ago. The war in Iraq, a few weeks after its start on March
20, 2003, was supported by 80 percent of Americans; in Afghanistan, in
late 2001, support exceeded 90 percent. In neither case, it seems, did
the public expect conflicts as long, as complicated and as costly as
ultimately transpired.
Similarly, at the time of the fall of Baghdad at the end of April
2003, 70 percent of Americans described the Iraq war as worth fighting
- nearly twice as many as do so today.
Nor did the war go over well in Iraq, as shown in a series of six
exclusive polls there by ABC and other media partners from 2004
through 2009. Never did a majority of Iraqis support the U.S.-led war;
by 2009, given the toll of the invasion and ensuing years of violence,
56 percent said it was wrong for the United States and its coalition
allies to invade.
LESSON - The course of U.S. public opinion underscores a consistent
political lesson: Hell hath no fury like an unpopular war. Public
rejection of the Iraq war, in particular, irreparably damaged the
presidency of George W. Bush; declining support for the war and Bush's
falling approval rating across his second term correlated almost
perfectly - at .95, with 1 a perfect fit. That's perhaps an impetus
for the Obama administration's efforts to wind down the U.S. presence
in Afghanistan.
Criticism of both wars has been higher than it is currently, likely
reflecting the U.S. departure from Iraq and the reduced intensity of
fighting in Afghanistan. In April 2007, at the height of the post-
invasion conflict in Iraq, a peak of 66 percent called that war not
worth fighting. Just less than a year ago an identical two-thirds said
the same about the war in Afghanistan.
SECURITY - As noted, views of the wars' contribution to security
strongly influence these assessments. Just 21 percent say the war in
Iraq contributed a great deal to long-term U.S. security; among them,
70 percent say the war was worth fighting. Among those say the war
contributed "somewhat" to security, 59 percent say it was worth it.
But among those who say it didn't enhance U.S. security at all, a vast
83 percent say the Iraq war was not worth fighting. The breakdowns on
Afghanistan are almost identical.
In terms of intensity, 43 percent of Americans feel "strongly" that
the Iraq war was not worth fighting, more than twice as many as the
number who feel strongly that its benefits did justify its costs, 19
percent. The divisions on Afghanistan, again, are very similar, 38
strongly critical vs. 18 percent strongly in support.
There are lingering political and ideological differences in views on
Iraq, with support much higher among Republicans and conservatives
compared with others. Fifty-seven percent of Republicans and 55
percent of conservatives say the war was worth fighting; just 35
percent of independents and 27 percent of Democrats, respectively,
agree, as do just three in 10 liberals and moderates alike. Results on
Afghanistan are similar among partisan groups.
HISTORY - The change in attitudes on the Iraq war, in particular, in
many ways sealed the fate of George W. Bush as the most unpopular
second-term president in political polling dating back nearly 80
years. Support for the war ebbed after the fall of Baghdad passed, yet
the conflict continued; as noted, Bush's popularity faded with it.
By February 2004, just short of a year after it started, 50 percent of
Americans said the war was not worth fighting; it reached a majority
that June and stayed there, with just three exceptions, in 52 ABC/Post
polls across the ensuing nine years.
In one notable exchange, in March 2008, ABC's Martha Raddatz asked
then-Vice President Dick Cheney about the public's dissatisfaction
with the war. Cheney said: "You cannot be blown off course by the
fluctuations in the public opinion polls." At that point, about six in
10 Americans or more had described the war as "not worth fighting"
continuously for two years.
Today, five years later, nearly six in 10 still do.
METHODOLOGY - This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by
telephone March 7-10, 2013, among a random national sample of 1,001
adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results
have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points, including design
effect. Partisan divisions are 33-25-35 percent, Democrats-Republicans-
independents.
The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of
New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-
SRBI of New York, N.Y.
Clave
May 12, 2013, 8:33:08 PM5/12/13
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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:sRVjt.331967$Yp1.2...@en-nntp-13.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 5/12/2013 7:00 PM, Clave wrote:
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:65Vjt.39$wn3...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> NO proof that Shulman was the one that organize the behavior...
>>
>> And yet you're ready to blame Obama?
>>
>> Typical batshit wingnut consistency.
>>
>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>> message news:65Vjt.39$wn3...@en-nntp-04.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> NO proof that Shulman was the one that organize the behavior...
>>
>> And yet you're ready to blame Obama?
>>
>> Typical batshit wingnut consistency.
>>
> Obama is more likely since that behavior benefits Obama.
Nothing at all tortured about that logic.
Jim
BeamMeUpScotty
May 12, 2013, 11:33:01 PM5/12/13
to
On 5/12/2013 8:06 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:
> On May 12, 4:43 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
> <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>>>> messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>>>> <...>
>>
>>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>>>> government.....
>>
>>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>>>> their own.
>>
>>>>> Jim
>>
>>>> Obama can work around....
>>
>>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>
>>> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
>> pinned on Obama?
>
> poll after poll after poll confirms americans despise "CONSERVATISM"
Laws are enforced when they are active..... NOT when we take a poll to
> On May 12, 4:43 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
> <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>>>>> messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>
>>>>> <...>
>>
>>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a little
>>>>>> annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government trying to squash
>>>>>> the very people that use their free speech to expose the dangers of BIG
>>>>>> government.....
>>
>>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs eating
>>>>> their own.
>>
>>>>> Jim
>>
>>>> Obama can work around....
>>
>>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>
>>> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
>> pinned on Obama?
>
> poll after poll after poll confirms americans despise "CONSERVATISM"
decide whether or NOT to enforce that law.
--
*Rumination*
#6 - Society is a virtual world that we create.
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Harold Burton
May 13, 2013, 8:57:13 AM5/13/13
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In article
<d1d5e8ba-b004-4ba1...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> LBJ ran for reelection?
What part of "it worked out better for Dubya than for "Landslide Lyndon"
didn't you understand?
>
> > but it worked better for Dubya than for
> > "Landslide Lyndon"
Leftards, batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
<d1d5e8ba-b004-4ba1...@a8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> LBJ ran for reelection?
What part of "it worked out better for Dubya than for "Landslide Lyndon"
didn't you understand?
>
> > but it worked better for Dubya than for
> > "Landslide Lyndon"
Leftards, batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
Harold Burton
May 13, 2013, 8:59:15 AM5/13/13
to
In article
<dee03617-f82d-4276...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > AWOL accusations.
>
> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
Except Benghazi isn't going away.
snicker.
<dee03617-f82d-4276...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > > > > > > years on
> > > > > > > it.
> >
> > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
> >
> > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > > > > > > years on
> > > > > > > it.
> >
> > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> >
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
> >
> > > > > > What else is new?
> >
> > > > > Whitewater?
> >
> > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
> >
> > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
> >
> > > Uh oh. �Another Fosterer nut job.
> >
> > Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> >
> > > > > > What else is new?
> >
> > > > > Whitewater?
> >
> > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
> >
> > > > > Bret Cahill
> >
> > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
> >
> > > Uh oh. �Another Fosterer nut job.
> >
> > AWOL accusations.
>
> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
Except Benghazi isn't going away.
snicker.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 13, 2013, 9:08:01 AM5/13/13
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On May 12, 10:57 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> posters of him. Get tattoos of him on your bodies. Don't be negative. The
> best defense is a good offense.- Hide quoted text -
BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH. You're record is
stuck. Ya' might want to give that jukebox a kick Denny. Just in case
you haven't noticed GW Bush is no longer POTUS. It was all over the
news. Try and keep up Denny my boy.
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> > On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
> > wrote:
> > > On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> > >> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
> > >> in messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> > >>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
> > >>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
> > >>>> in messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> > >>>> <...>
>
> > >>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a
> > >>>>> little annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government
> > >>>>> trying to squash the very people that use their free speech to
> > >>>>> expose the dangers of BIG government.....
>
> > >>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs
> > >>>> eating their own.
>
> > >>>> Jim
>
> > >>> Obama can work around....
>
> > >> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> > >> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
> > > pinned on Obama?
>
> > > On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
> > >> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
> > >> in messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> > >>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
> > >>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
> > >>>> in messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> > >>>> <...>
>
> > >>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a
> > >>>>> little annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government
> > >>>>> trying to squash the very people that use their free speech to
> > >>>>> expose the dangers of BIG government.....
>
> > >>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs
> > >>>> eating their own.
>
> > >>>> Jim
>
> > >>> Obama can work around....
>
> > >> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>
> > >> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
> > > pinned on Obama?
>
> > Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for
> > everything.
>
> You guys get so defensive about Bush. You should celebrate him, put up huge
> > everything.
>
> posters of him. Get tattoos of him on your bodies. Don't be negative. The
> best defense is a good offense.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH,
> - Show quoted text -
BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH. You're record is
stuck. Ya' might want to give that jukebox a kick Denny. Just in case
you haven't noticed GW Bush is no longer POTUS. It was all over the
news. Try and keep up Denny my boy.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 13, 2013, 9:11:09 AM5/13/13
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On May 12, 11:36 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > On 5/12/2013 6:06 PM, Denny wrote:
> again. Shadows and smoke.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Gee, open your eyes, remove the Official Obama Rose Colored Glasses
> - Show quoted text -
and look around Denny. Your Messiah is as corrupt and crooked as they
come. It's finally catching up to him and you moonbats won't be able
to stop it. Get used to it Denny. You support the most corrupt, inept,
clueless, dangerous politician in American history. You should be
proud.
Bret Cahill
May 13, 2013, 10:52:59 AM5/13/13
to
> > > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > > > > > > > years on
> > > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > > Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> > > AWOL accusations.
>
> > The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
> > -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>
> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > > > > > > > years on
> > > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=Lie
>
> > > > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > > Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their bogus
> > > AWOL accusations.
>
> > The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
> > -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>
> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 13, 2013, 11:34:15 AM5/13/13
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On May 13, 10:16 am, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <dee03617-f82d-4276-bc67-3fef89e8c...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
>
> - Show quoted text -
You must have all three of your fingers and all your webbed toes
> - Show quoted text -
crossed Denny. Trust me, there's more whistleblowers in the shadows.
Ths is just now getting started. Get used to it. It's the new normal.
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BeamMeUpScotty
May 13, 2013, 11:35:46 AM5/13/13
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On 5/12/2013 11:57 PM, Denny wrote:
A normal person would think you'd be tired of it by now but your supreme
leader Obama is such a screw up, he can't survive unless he blames *ALL*
his actions on other people.
--
*Rumination*
#61 - You can't write computer code that is irrational and expect it to
work. This Liberal-Socialist Matrix is flawed and failing.
> BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>> On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
>> wrote:
>>> On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
>>>> in messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
>>>>>> in messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a
>>>>>>> little annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government
>>>>>>> trying to squash the very people that use their free speech to
>>>>>>> expose the dangers of BIG government.....
>>>>
>>>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs
>>>>>> eating their own.
>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>> Obama can work around....
>>>>
>>>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>>>
>>>> Jim- Hide quoted text -
>> On 5/12/2013 5:43 PM, Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
>> wrote:
>>> On May 12, 4:08 pm, "Clave" <ChrisClav...@TheMonastery.com> wrote:
>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
>>>> in messagenews:fpTjt.795021$OJ2.3...@en-nntp-11.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/12/2013 4:48 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote
>>>>>> in messagenews:46Sjt.2386$d9....@en-nntp-12.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>>>> <...>
>>>>
>>>>>>> NO..... but the *IRS targeting TEA PARTY GROUPS* does get me a
>>>>>>> little annoyed. You have to love the irony of BIG government
>>>>>>> trying to squash the very people that use their free speech to
>>>>>>> expose the dangers of BIG government.....
>>>>
>>>>>> LOL -- the IRS commissioner was a Bush nominee. This was Repugs
>>>>>> eating their own.
>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>>> Obama can work around....
>>>>
>>>> This had nothing to do with Obama, k00k.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
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>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Is there ANYTHING that has happened in the last 5 years that can be
>>> pinned on Obama?
>>>
>> Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for
>> everything.
>
> You guys get so defensive about Bush.
Actually we've let him be your whipping by for 5 years...
>>> pinned on Obama?
>>>
>> Bush is in his 12th year as President, he gets all the blame for
>> everything.
>
> You guys get so defensive about Bush.
A normal person would think you'd be tired of it by now but your supreme
leader Obama is such a screw up, he can't survive unless he blames *ALL*
his actions on other people.
--
*Rumination*
#61 - You can't write computer code that is irrational and expect it to
work. This Liberal-Socialist Matrix is flawed and failing.
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May 13, 2013, 12:09:00 PM5/13/13
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 13, 2013, 12:19:06 PM5/13/13
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http://attackcartoons.com/images/articles/20130124035452147_1.jpg
If it MAKE NO DIFFERENCE, WHY LIE ABOUT IT?
WHY INDEED! WHEN HOW IS SO MUCH MORE FUN.
This is where the FUN begins...
-- CTHILLARY'07
"What DIFFERENCE does it Make?"
-- CTHILLARY's bon mot, 2013
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 13, 2013, 12:21:44 PM5/13/13
to
Nickname unavailable
...
between TERRORISTS and SHAMELESS RETAIL POLITICO's.
One Brandishes his weapons proudly and openly,
and the other conceals them to do maximum harm...
...
> Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New
That's the PROBLEM and difference
between TERRORISTS and SHAMELESS RETAIL POLITICO's.
One Brandishes his weapons proudly and openly,
and the other conceals them to do maximum harm...
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 13, 2013, 8:31:36 PM5/13/13
to
On May 13, 10:40 am, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 12, 11:36=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5/12/2013 6:06 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > Ryanator <Ryana...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On May 12, 10:17=3DA0am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com>
> > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5/12/2013 6:06 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > Ryanator <Ryana...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> > > > >> wrote=
> > :
> > > > >>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > > > >>> an=
> > > > >>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just wasting time
> > d
> > > > >>> money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > >>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > > > >>> years =
> > > > >>> money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > >>> They did that when they said that they were going to waste 2
> > on
> > > > >>> it.
>
> > > > >>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > >>> Bret Cahill
>
> > > > >> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > > > >> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense
> > > > >> fo=
> > > > >>> it.
>
> > > > >>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > >>> Bret Cahill
>
> > > > >> If Benghazi is much ado about nothing and Obama and Hillary are
> > > > >> innocent and pure as the driven snow, then wouldn't it make sense
> > r
> > > > >> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting
> > > > >> whistleblowers? Think about it, all critics could be silenced
> > > > >> immediately if Obama would just release the emails which would
> > > > >> prove him innocent.
>
> > > > >> And yet he continues to hide the emails. =A0Strange.
> > > > >> them to just release the emails and stop persecuting
> > > > >> whistleblowers? Think about it, all critics could be silenced
> > > > >> immediately if Obama would just release the emails which would
> > > > >> prove him innocent.
>
>
> > > > > Another evil conspiracy! Release the emails! You people look
> > > > > sillier every day. Keep it up. We enjoy it so.
>
> > > > Yet it's your kind that insist on hiding everything.
>
> > > Show me something significant that remains hidden. Vince Foster all
> > > over again. Shadows and smoke.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Gee, open your eyes, remove the Official Obama Rose Colored Glasses
> > and look around Denny. Your Messiah is as corrupt and crooked as they
> > come. It's finally catching up to him and you moonbats won't be able
> > to stop it. Get used to it Denny. You support the most corrupt, inept,
> > clueless, dangerous politician in American history. You should be
> > proud.
>
> I'll say it again:
> > > > > Another evil conspiracy! Release the emails! You people look
> > > > > sillier every day. Keep it up. We enjoy it so.
>
> > > > Yet it's your kind that insist on hiding everything.
>
> > > Show me something significant that remains hidden. Vince Foster all
> > > over again. Shadows and smoke.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Gee, open your eyes, remove the Official Obama Rose Colored Glasses
> > and look around Denny. Your Messiah is as corrupt and crooked as they
> > come. It's finally catching up to him and you moonbats won't be able
> > to stop it. Get used to it Denny. You support the most corrupt, inept,
> > clueless, dangerous politician in American history. You should be
> > proud.
>
> Your fantasies have no basis in reality. There's only a handful of people
> who think like you do, and I suspect race is involved, but whatever, you
> couldn't change even if you wanted to. I've studied the problem more than I
> ever wanted to, and will respectfully withdraw from the question.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ahhh-haaahh !! Look folks, Denny's losing the argument. He threw down
> - Show quoted text -
the race card !! Btw Sybil, why do you hate GW Bush?? Because he's
white? Must be because, according to you, skin color is the ONLY
reason to diagree with someone.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 13, 2013, 8:32:10 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 11:21 am, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
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>
>
> > On May 13, 10:16=A0am, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <dee03617-f82d-4276-bc67-3fef89e8c...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <dee03617-f82d-4276-bc67-3fef89e8c...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > =A0Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > > > > > > > > > > wasti=
>
> > > > > > > > > > > House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > ng
> > > > > > > > > > > time and
> > > > > > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to
> > > > > > > > > > > wast=
> > > > > > > > > > > time and
> > > > > > > > > > > money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > They did that when they said that they were going to
> > e
> > > > > > > > > > > 2 years on
> > > > > > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > > > > Hmmmmm. No cite=3DLie
> > > > > > > > > > > 2 years on
> > > > > > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > > > > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > > > > > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > > > > > Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
> > > > > > bogu=
> > > > > > > > > > What else is new?
>
> > > > > > > > > Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > > > > How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > > > How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > > > > > Uh oh. Another Fosterer nut job.
>
> > > > > > Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
> > s
> > > > > > AWOL accusations.
>
> > > > > The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's
> > > > > behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>
> > > > Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>
> > > > snicker.
>
> > > Yeah it is. Even Fox will drop it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You must have all three of your fingers and all your webbed toes
> > crossed Denny. Trust me, there's more whistleblowers in the shadows.
> > Ths is just now getting started. Get used to it. It's the new normal.
>
> Keep grasping at those straws. One might hold.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > AWOL accusations.
>
> > > > > The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's
> > > > > behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>
> > > > Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>
> > > > snicker.
>
> > > Yeah it is. Even Fox will drop it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You must have all three of your fingers and all your webbed toes
> > crossed Denny. Trust me, there's more whistleblowers in the shadows.
> > Ths is just now getting started. Get used to it. It's the new normal.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey, what difference does it make?
> - Show quoted text -
Nickname unavailable
May 13, 2013, 11:39:15 PM5/13/13
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On May 13, 8:08 am, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
yes its still bushs fault, and will be for a long long time:)))
yes it was bushes fault and it still is: The Iraq war says economist
Joseph Stiglitz, is the first U.S. war financed entirely on
credit.:There’s no such thing as a free war Stiglitz said. The U.S.
and the world will be paying the price for decades to come
http://theweek.com/article/index/40617/briefing-the-iraq-money-pit
Briefing: The Iraq money pit
What has all that money bought for the U.S.—and the Iraqis?
By The Week Staff | May 1, 2008
The war in Iraq is costing the U.S. $12 billion a month, and no one
can say when the spending will stop. What has all that money bought
for the U.S.—and the Iraqis?
How much has the war cost so far? About $600 billion since 2003, and
the total is rising fast. Because of soaring fuel costs and the high
price of repairing or replacing damaged equipment, the U.S. is
spending about $12 billion a month this year, up from $4 billion a
month in 2003. About $1.5 billion of the monthly total covers
reconstruction, and perhaps an additional $4.5 billion flows to
private contractors doing everything from serving food to guarding
diplomats. The remainder covers fuel, ammunition, and equipment, as
well as the cost of paying, feeding, housing, and providing medical
care to more than 150,000 U.S. military personnel. The $600 billion
figure does not include such costly consequences as higher oil prices,
the interest on the billions borrowed to pay for the war (see below),
and the burden of long-term care and benefits for Iraq war veterans.
So what’s a more realistic figure? Anywhere from $1 trillion to $5
trillion. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently said
that the war’s cost would amount to $1.2 trillion to $1.7 trillion by
2017. Harvard researcher Linda Bilmes and Nobel Prize–winning
economist Joseph Stiglitz, in their book The $3 Trillion War, say that
the war’s long-term cost will range from $2 trillion to $5 trillion.
Iraq is already the second most expensive war in U.S. history. Only
World War II cost more, about $5 trillion, adjusted for inflation. As
a point of perspective, consider what the $600 billion we’ve spent
already could have purchased, says Bilmes. “The money spent on the war
could have fixed Social Security for 75 years or provided health
insurance to all American children,” she says. Has the money been
well spent? In many cases, no. Audits and oversight groups have found
that tens of billions have been squandered in waste, fraud, and
corruption. Contractors hired to rebuild the country’s infrastructure
or provide security have overcharged the U.S. for everything from soft
drinks—$45 a can—to gasoline. Millions of dollars in no-bid
reconstruction contracts were diverted to things such as Super Bowl
tickets, prostitutes, watches, and jewelry. And much of the
reconstruction work has been substandard. The U.S., for example, paid
$72 million to Parsons, a U.S. contractor, to build a police academy
in Baghdad. But the building was so badly put together that raw sewage
seeps from its walls and ceilings. “This became the lens through which
Iraqis now see America—incompetence, profiteering, arrogance,” said
House Democrat Henry Waxman of California, a vocal critic of the war.
Are the Iraqis chipping in for reconstruction? Barely, and that’s a
sore point with Congress. With oil nearing $120 a barrel, the Iraqi
government is looking at a $70 billion windfall in oil revenues this
year—twice what it expected when it drew up its $48 billion budget for
2008. But instead of financing the reconstruction of Iraq’s decrepit
electrical grid, sewer systems, roads, and public buildings, most of
the money is going unspent. “The Iraqis have translated their oil
revenues into budget surpluses rather than effective services,” said
Missouri Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton. Congress has cut off further
funds for reconstruction and is looking into ways to prod the Iraqi
government into shouldering more of the load. Why is reconstruction
going so slowly? In part because it’s hard to work in a combat zone,
where unguarded workers can be killed by snipers and bombs. The
largest share of any reconstruction contract in Iraq goes to security.
But corruption plays a large role, too. The former head of Iraq’s anti-
corruption commission recently told Congress that at least $18 billion
of Iraq’s own funds has been lost to corruption, with much of the
money ending up in the hands of Shiite militias and Sunni insurgent
groups. That total doesn’t include the losses from oil smuggling and
theft. When the U.S. renovated Iraq’s oil pipelines, it failed to
install meters to monitor the flow of oil. So no one can say how much
oil has been siphoned off illegally. Is life at least better for the
Iraqi people? By some measures, unquestionably. Recent polls show that
45 percent of Iraqis expect conditions to improve over the next 12
months, up from 29 percent in 2007. Unlike in the Saddam Hussein era,
when political opponents were killed or tortured and only state-
sponsored media were permitted, Iraq now has 268 privately owned
newspapers and 54 commercial TV stations. Thanks to the surge of
28,000 additional U.S. forces and peacekeeping deals with “Sunni
awakening” groups, war-related deaths among Iraqi civilians have
dropped to fewer than 600 a month, compared to almost 1,800 a month in
2006. But more than 60,000 Iraqis have died in the sectarian violence
thus far, and many portions of the country remain dangerous. In
Baghdad, electricity is available less than 12 hours a day, and many
areas have no running water or sewer systems. Unemployment stands at
around 33 percent, and inflation is soaring. About 2 million Iraqis
have fled Iraq, mostly to Syria and Jordan, and many vow not to go
back. Meanwhile, the political impasse between the government and
Sunnis and insurgent Shiite groups keeps the country stuck in a
primitive, largely dysfunctional state. Americans “are the best in
destroying things,” said 26-year-old Zaid Saleem, who mans a stall in
a Baghdad market. “But they are the worst in rebuilding.”
The credit card war The Iraq war, says economist Joseph Stiglitz, is
“the first U.S. war financed entirely on credit.” When the war
started, the Bush administration said it would cost no more than $60
billion. But the U.S. budget was already in deficit, so the
administration had to borrow money to finance the invasion. About 40
percent of the money was borrowed from China and other international
investors—the first time since the Revolutionary War that foreigners
financed a U.S. war. At the same time, the administration and Congress
lowered taxes instead of raising them, as is customary in wartime. The
Federal Reserve kept interest rates low, which encouraged middle-class
Americans to go on a consumption binge financed by credit cards and
home-equity loans. Today, say Stiglitz and other economists, the bills
for the country’s spending spree are starting to come due, in the form
of higher prices, a weakened dollar, and lower living standards.
“There’s no such thing as a free war,” Stiglitz said. “The U.S.—and
the world—will be paying the price for decades to come.”
yes it was bushes fault and it still is: The Iraq war says economist
Joseph Stiglitz, is the first U.S. war financed entirely on
credit.:There’s no such thing as a free war Stiglitz said. The U.S.
and the world will be paying the price for decades to come
http://theweek.com/article/index/40617/briefing-the-iraq-money-pit
Briefing: The Iraq money pit
What has all that money bought for the U.S.—and the Iraqis?
By The Week Staff | May 1, 2008
The war in Iraq is costing the U.S. $12 billion a month, and no one
can say when the spending will stop. What has all that money bought
for the U.S.—and the Iraqis?
How much has the war cost so far? About $600 billion since 2003, and
the total is rising fast. Because of soaring fuel costs and the high
price of repairing or replacing damaged equipment, the U.S. is
spending about $12 billion a month this year, up from $4 billion a
month in 2003. About $1.5 billion of the monthly total covers
reconstruction, and perhaps an additional $4.5 billion flows to
private contractors doing everything from serving food to guarding
diplomats. The remainder covers fuel, ammunition, and equipment, as
well as the cost of paying, feeding, housing, and providing medical
care to more than 150,000 U.S. military personnel. The $600 billion
figure does not include such costly consequences as higher oil prices,
the interest on the billions borrowed to pay for the war (see below),
and the burden of long-term care and benefits for Iraq war veterans.
So what’s a more realistic figure? Anywhere from $1 trillion to $5
trillion. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office recently said
that the war’s cost would amount to $1.2 trillion to $1.7 trillion by
2017. Harvard researcher Linda Bilmes and Nobel Prize–winning
economist Joseph Stiglitz, in their book The $3 Trillion War, say that
the war’s long-term cost will range from $2 trillion to $5 trillion.
Iraq is already the second most expensive war in U.S. history. Only
World War II cost more, about $5 trillion, adjusted for inflation. As
a point of perspective, consider what the $600 billion we’ve spent
already could have purchased, says Bilmes. “The money spent on the war
could have fixed Social Security for 75 years or provided health
insurance to all American children,” she says. Has the money been
well spent? In many cases, no. Audits and oversight groups have found
that tens of billions have been squandered in waste, fraud, and
corruption. Contractors hired to rebuild the country’s infrastructure
or provide security have overcharged the U.S. for everything from soft
drinks—$45 a can—to gasoline. Millions of dollars in no-bid
reconstruction contracts were diverted to things such as Super Bowl
tickets, prostitutes, watches, and jewelry. And much of the
reconstruction work has been substandard. The U.S., for example, paid
$72 million to Parsons, a U.S. contractor, to build a police academy
in Baghdad. But the building was so badly put together that raw sewage
seeps from its walls and ceilings. “This became the lens through which
Iraqis now see America—incompetence, profiteering, arrogance,” said
House Democrat Henry Waxman of California, a vocal critic of the war.
Are the Iraqis chipping in for reconstruction? Barely, and that’s a
sore point with Congress. With oil nearing $120 a barrel, the Iraqi
government is looking at a $70 billion windfall in oil revenues this
year—twice what it expected when it drew up its $48 billion budget for
2008. But instead of financing the reconstruction of Iraq’s decrepit
electrical grid, sewer systems, roads, and public buildings, most of
the money is going unspent. “The Iraqis have translated their oil
revenues into budget surpluses rather than effective services,” said
Missouri Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton. Congress has cut off further
funds for reconstruction and is looking into ways to prod the Iraqi
government into shouldering more of the load. Why is reconstruction
going so slowly? In part because it’s hard to work in a combat zone,
where unguarded workers can be killed by snipers and bombs. The
largest share of any reconstruction contract in Iraq goes to security.
But corruption plays a large role, too. The former head of Iraq’s anti-
corruption commission recently told Congress that at least $18 billion
of Iraq’s own funds has been lost to corruption, with much of the
money ending up in the hands of Shiite militias and Sunni insurgent
groups. That total doesn’t include the losses from oil smuggling and
theft. When the U.S. renovated Iraq’s oil pipelines, it failed to
install meters to monitor the flow of oil. So no one can say how much
oil has been siphoned off illegally. Is life at least better for the
Iraqi people? By some measures, unquestionably. Recent polls show that
45 percent of Iraqis expect conditions to improve over the next 12
months, up from 29 percent in 2007. Unlike in the Saddam Hussein era,
when political opponents were killed or tortured and only state-
sponsored media were permitted, Iraq now has 268 privately owned
newspapers and 54 commercial TV stations. Thanks to the surge of
28,000 additional U.S. forces and peacekeeping deals with “Sunni
awakening” groups, war-related deaths among Iraqi civilians have
dropped to fewer than 600 a month, compared to almost 1,800 a month in
2006. But more than 60,000 Iraqis have died in the sectarian violence
thus far, and many portions of the country remain dangerous. In
Baghdad, electricity is available less than 12 hours a day, and many
areas have no running water or sewer systems. Unemployment stands at
around 33 percent, and inflation is soaring. About 2 million Iraqis
have fled Iraq, mostly to Syria and Jordan, and many vow not to go
back. Meanwhile, the political impasse between the government and
Sunnis and insurgent Shiite groups keeps the country stuck in a
primitive, largely dysfunctional state. Americans “are the best in
destroying things,” said 26-year-old Zaid Saleem, who mans a stall in
a Baghdad market. “But they are the worst in rebuilding.”
The credit card war The Iraq war, says economist Joseph Stiglitz, is
“the first U.S. war financed entirely on credit.” When the war
started, the Bush administration said it would cost no more than $60
billion. But the U.S. budget was already in deficit, so the
administration had to borrow money to finance the invasion. About 40
percent of the money was borrowed from China and other international
investors—the first time since the Revolutionary War that foreigners
financed a U.S. war. At the same time, the administration and Congress
lowered taxes instead of raising them, as is customary in wartime. The
Federal Reserve kept interest rates low, which encouraged middle-class
Americans to go on a consumption binge financed by credit cards and
home-equity loans. Today, say Stiglitz and other economists, the bills
for the country’s spending spree are starting to come due, in the form
of higher prices, a weakened dollar, and lower living standards.
“There’s no such thing as a free war,” Stiglitz said. “The U.S.—and
the world—will be paying the price for decades to come.”
BeamMeUpScotty
May 16, 2013, 1:11:26 PM5/16/13
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On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing TERRORISTS?
> Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
>>>>>>>>>> wasting=
>>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
>> time
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
>>>>>>>>>> waste =
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
>> 2
>>>>>>>>>> years on
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. No cite=3DLie
>>>>>>>>>> years on
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>>>
>>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>>>
>>>>>> Uh oh. =A0Another Fosterer nut job.
>>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>>>
>>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
>>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>>>
>>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
>>>> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>>>
>>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>>
>> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
> Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he up to? Did
>>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
>>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>>>
>>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
>>>> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>>>
>>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>>
>> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
> he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing TERRORISTS?
BeamMeUpScotty
May 16, 2013, 1:23:00 PM5/16/13
to
>>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
>>>>>>>>>> wasting=
>> time
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
>>>>>>>>>> waste =
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
>> 2
>>>>>>>>>> years on
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. No cite=3DLie
>>>>>>>>>> years on
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>>>
>>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>>>
>>>>>> Uh oh. =A0Another Fosterer nut job.
>>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>>>
>>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>>>
>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>>
>>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
>>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>>>
>>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
>>>> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>>>
>>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>>
>> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
>>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and their
>>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>>>
>>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a rat's behind
>>>> -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time around.
>>>
>>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>>
>> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
> Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he up to? Did
> he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing their pals who
> he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
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BeamMeUpScotty
May 16, 2013, 6:04:57 PM5/16/13
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> Every knee-jerk Republican back then praised him to the heavens, and YOU
> DID TOO!
>
Given the fact that I defend Policies and NOT people I have to say that
you must be lying about me.
I don't know Ken Star and near as I can tell he hasn't lied to my face.
--
*Rumination*
#4 - When it comes to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there
are NO moderates.
Harold Burton
May 16, 2013, 9:52:06 PM5/16/13
to
In article <20130516172205.648$L...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
YOU said honorable. Got any reason to claim otherwise? And don't
sidestep.
snicker
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable Kenneth Starr?
^^^^^^^^^
YOU said honorable. Got any reason to claim otherwise? And don't
sidestep.
snicker
Harold Burton
May 16, 2013, 9:52:58 PM5/16/13
to
In article <dKclt.67269$pt1....@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com>,
Which distinguishes him from Bill Clinton.
snicker
snicker
BeamMeUpScotty
May 16, 2013, 10:41:50 PM5/16/13
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 17, 2013, 12:31:24 AM5/17/13
to
On May 16, 11:07 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
>
> > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney. I wont bore you
> with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a tobacco
> company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your friend Trump) goes to
> hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon wing.
>
> Repent!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles is too
> - Show quoted text -
weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers to step in
and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money went to
"Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have plenty of
company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you get there ol'
Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you with a Scotch on the
rocks.
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Harold Burton
May 17, 2013, 9:19:51 PM5/17/13
to
In article <20130517000702.915$3...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
on both sides of the aisle SUBSIDIZED tobacco companies.
> 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney.
A regular John Edwards
. I wont bore you
> with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a tobacco
> company, as well as any gambling casino owner
And your problem with gambling is? Given that the biggest promoters of
gambling are state governments.
> . (your friend Trump)
And your proof that Trump is my friend is?
Put it right here___________________________
> goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon wing.
Is that where Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick should go? He seems
to approve of lotteries, i.e. gambling. The sort that's been proved
time and again to take advantage of the poor.
snicker
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for a tobacco
> company.
And your problem with that is, the US Government, aided by politicians
> company.
on both sides of the aisle SUBSIDIZED tobacco companies.
> 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney.
. I wont bore you
> with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a tobacco
> company, as well as any gambling casino owner
gambling are state governments.
> . (your friend Trump)
And your proof that Trump is my friend is?
Put it right here___________________________
> goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon wing.
to approve of lotteries, i.e. gambling. The sort that's been proved
time and again to take advantage of the poor.
snicker
Harold Burton
May 17, 2013, 9:21:08 PM5/17/13
to
In article <20130517005346.671$4...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >> =A0time
> > > > =A0=
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > > YOU said honorable. =A0Got any reason to claim otherwise? =A0And
> But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican Congress hacks
> were on TV every night, praising Starr
Cite?
snicker
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On May 16, 11:07=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> > > > =A0dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wasting=3D
> > >
> > > > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > > > > > >> =A0time
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> waste =3D
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
> > > > > > >> 2
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. No cite=3D3DLie
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>> Uh oh. =3DA0Another Fosterer nut job.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and
> > > > > > >>>>> thei=
> > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and
> > r
> > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a
> > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time
> > > > > > >>>> around.
> > >
> > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
> > >
> > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
> > >
> > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he
> > > > > > > up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
> > >
> > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing their
> > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
> > >
> > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable Kenneth
> > > > > Starr?
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
> > >
> > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a
> > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time
> > > > > > >>>> around.
> > >
> > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
> > >
> > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
> > >
> > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he
> > > > > > > up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
> > >
> > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing their
> > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
> > >
> > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable Kenneth
> > > > > Starr?
> > > > =A0=
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > > YOU said honorable. =A0Got any reason to claim otherwise? =A0And
> > > > don't sidestep.
> > >
> > > > snicker
> > >
> > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for a
> > > tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney. I
> > > wont bore yo=
> > >
> > > > snicker
> > >
> > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for a
> > > tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney. I
> > u
> > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a
> > > tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your friend
> > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon
> > > wing.
> > >
> > > Repent!- Hide quoted text -
> > >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles is too
> > weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers to step in
> > and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money went to
> > "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have plenty of
> > company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you get there ol'
> > Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you with a Scotch on the
> > rocks.
>
> Ignoring you fun fantasy, I would firmly affirm my affirmation of bourbon.
> > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a
> > > tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your friend
> > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon
> > > wing.
> > >
> > > Repent!- Hide quoted text -
> > >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles is too
> > weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers to step in
> > and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money went to
> > "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have plenty of
> > company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you get there ol'
> > Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you with a Scotch on the
> > rocks.
>
> But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican Congress hacks
> were on TV every night, praising Starr
Cite?
snicker
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 17, 2013, 10:02:31 PM5/17/13
to
On May 16, 11:53 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >> =A0time
> the soil of America in its history. They also did the same thing during the
> hearing for Justice Roberts. It was just strange. Did you agree with them
> then? If so, why? andy why lain on so heavily? PS. If Trump doesn't go to
> hell, there ain't a cow in Texas.- Hide quoted text -
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 11:07=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
>
>
>
>
> > On May 16, 11:07=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> > > > =A0dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
>
> > > > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wasting=3D
>
> > > > > BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are just
> > > > > > >> =A0time
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> waste =3D
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were going to
> > > > > > >> 2
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. No cite=3D3DLie
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>> Uh oh. =3DA0Another Fosterer nut job.
> > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
>
>
> > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and
> > > > > > >>>>> thei=
> > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing nutters and
> > r
> > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>
> > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a
> > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time
> > > > > > >>>> around.
>
> > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>
> > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
> > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he
> > > > > > > up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
> > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing their
> > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
>
> > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable Kenneth
> > > > > Starr?
> > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
>
> > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one gave a
> > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the first time
> > > > > > >>>> around.
>
> > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
>
> > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at Pepperdine.
>
> > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time. What's he
> > > > > > > up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco companies?
>
> > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing their
> > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
>
> > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable Kenneth
> > > > > Starr?
> > > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
> > > > =A0=
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^^^^^
>
> > > > YOU said honorable. =A0Got any reason to claim otherwise? =A0And
> > > > =A0=
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^^^^^
>
> > > > don't sidestep.
>
> > > > snicker
>
> > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for a
> > > tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney. I
> > > wont bore yo=
>
> > > > snicker
>
> > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for a
> > > tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful attorney. I
> > u
> > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a
> > > tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your friend
> > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon
> > > wing.
>
> > > Repent!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles is too
> > weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers to step in
> > and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money went to
> > "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have plenty of
> > company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you get there ol'
> > Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you with a Scotch on the
> > rocks.
>
> > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for a
> > > tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your friend
> > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard Nixon
> > > wing.
>
> > > Repent!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles is too
> > weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers to step in
> > and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money went to
> > "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have plenty of
> > company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you get there ol'
> > Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you with a Scotch on the
> > rocks.
>
> Ignoring you fun fantasy, I would firmly affirm my affirmation of bourbon.
> But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican Congress hacks
> were on TV every night, praising Starr and the noblest human being to walk
> But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican Congress hacks
> the soil of America in its history. They also did the same thing during the
> hearing for Justice Roberts. It was just strange. Did you agree with them
> then? If so, why? andy why lain on so heavily? PS. If Trump doesn't go to
> hell, there ain't a cow in Texas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
HUH ???
> - Show quoted text -
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 17, 2013, 10:03:38 PM5/17/13
to
On May 17, 8:48 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <20130517005346.671...@newsreader.com>,
> Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
>
> > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>
> > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
>
> - Show quoted text -
No, some people have to get off the sofa and go to work, Sybil.
> - Show quoted text -
Harold Burton
May 17, 2013, 10:15:44 PM5/17/13
to
In article <20130517214833.940$G...@newsreader.com>,
I knew you couldn't
> I watched the whole thing on Tv. Didn't you?
Cite?
I knew you couldn't
Harold Burton
May 17, 2013, 10:16:34 PM5/17/13
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In article
<15cfd197-b62d-4078...@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
That, plus he's lying. It's what makes him a leftard.
<15cfd197-b62d-4078...@i3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Harold Burton
May 17, 2013, 10:17:17 PM5/17/13
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In article <20130517214636.882$I...@newsreader.com>,
> Aw you're not even trying any more.
That's lame even for you.
snicker
That's lame even for you.
snicker
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 17, 2013, 10:37:47 PM5/17/13
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On May 17, 9:34 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
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> > On May 17, 8:48=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130517005346.671...@newsreader.com>,
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
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> > On May 17, 8:48=A0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <20130517005346.671...@newsreader.com>,
> > > > =A0dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
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> > > > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
> > > > > <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
> > > > > <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 16, 11:07=3DA0pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> > > > > > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> > > > > > > Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <20130516172205.648...@newsreader.com>,
> > > > > > > > =3DA0dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > BeamMeUpScotty
> > > > > > > > > <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just wasting=3D3D
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> > > > > > > > > BeamMeUpScotty
> > > > > > > > > <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 5/13/2013 12:05 PM, Denny wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> House Repugs openly admit / brag that they are
> > > > > > > > > > >> =3DA0time
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> goin=
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> money on their "investigation."
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They did that when they said that they were
> > g
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> to waste =3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > >> 2
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. No cite=3D3D3DLie
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> years on
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> it.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> It's time to vote Repugs out of the house.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Uh oh. =3D3DA0Another Fosterer nut job.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> What else is new?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Whitewater?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> How did that work out for Repugs?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> How'd Whitewater work for Vince Foster?
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> nutters and thei=3D
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Yeah, the right wing version of the leftwing
> > > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> gave=
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> bogus AWOL accusations.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>>> The worst thing about hyping AWOL Bush was no one
> > a
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> first time around.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
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> > > > > > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at
> > > > > > > > > > >> Pepperdine.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time.
> > > > > > > > > > > What=
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> rat's behind -- much like Benhgazi (sic) -- the
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> first time around.
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> > > > > > > > > > >>> Except Benghazi isn't going away.
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> > > > > > > > > > >> Depends on if Ken Starr gets offered retirement at
> > > > > > > > > > >> Pepperdine.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Ken Starr! I havn't though about him in a long time.
> > 's
> > > > > > > > > > > he up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco
> > > > > > > > > > > companies?
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> > > > > > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing
> > > > > > > > > > the=
> > > > > > > > > > > he up to? Did he go back to lawyering for the tobacco
> > > > > > > > > > > companies?
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> > > > > > > > > > Like those Liberal lawyers that go back to representing
> > ir
> > > > > > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
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> > > > > > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable
> > > > > > > > > Kenneth Starr?
> > > > > > > > =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
> > > > > > > > > > pals who are TERRORISTS and child molesters?
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> > > > > > > > > LOL! Don't sidestep. What's your opinion of the Honorable
> > > > > > > > > Kenneth Starr?
> > > > > > > > =3D=
> > A0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0
> > > > > > > > =3DA0 =3DA0=3D
> > > > > > =A0=3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 ^^^^^^^^^
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> > > > > > > > YOU said honorable. =3DA0Got any reason to claim otherwise?
> > > > > > > > =3D=
> > A0And
> > > > > > > > don't sidestep.
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> > > > > > > > snicker
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> > > > > > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for
> > > > > > > a tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful
> > > > > > > attorney=
> > > > > > > > don't sidestep.
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> > > > > > > > snicker
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> > > > > > > I could mention many things, but let me just say: He worked for
> > > > > > > a tobacco company. 400 dollars and hour. Bright successful
> > .
> > > > > > > I wont bore yo=3D
> > > > > > u
> > > > > > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for
> > > > > > > a tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your
> > > > > > > frien=
> > > > > > > with my personal religious beliefs, but I'm sure any lawyer for
> > > > > > > a tobacco company, as well as any gambling casino owner (your
> > d
> > > > > > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard
> > > > > > > Nixon wing.
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> > > > > > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles
> > > > > > is too weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers
> > > > > > to ste=
> > > > > > > Trump) goes to hell after death and is installed in the Richard
> > > > > > > Nixon wing.
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> > > > > > I see. So you think a person that smokes a cigarette or gambles
> > > > > > is too weak to avoid the temptation so it's up to trial lawyers
> > p
> > > > > > in and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money
> > > > > > went to "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have
> > > > > > plenty of company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you
> > > > > > get there ol' Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you
> > > > > > with a Scotch on the rocks.
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> > > > > Ignoring you fun fantasy, I would firmly affirm my affirmation of
> > > > > bourbon. But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican
> > > > > Congress hacks were on TV every night, praising Starr
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> > > > Cite?
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> > > > snicker
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> > No, some people have to get off the sofa and go to work, Sybil.
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> > > > > > in and sue tobacco companies for BILLIONS. How much of that money
> > > > > > went to "Tobacco education"? anybody that goes to hell will have
> > > > > > plenty of company from the Demorat party. Just think, when you
> > > > > > get there ol' Ted"WheresMyPants"Kennedy will be waiting for you
> > > > > > with a Scotch on the rocks.
>
> > > > > Ignoring you fun fantasy, I would firmly affirm my affirmation of
> > > > > bourbon. But seriously, back in the Monica-year, all the Republican
> > > > > Congress hacks were on TV every night, praising Starr
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> > > > Cite?
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> > > > snicker
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> > No, some people have to get off the sofa and go to work, Sybil.
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Surrrrre you did Sybil. (wink-nudge)
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BeamMeUpScotty
May 17, 2013, 11:25:36 PM5/17/13
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> I watched the whole thing on Tv. Didn't you?
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You might be able to recover from that.....
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