More Painting Questions
Leslie Deak
So, I think we might paint this weekend. We're gonna have to paint the
ceiling, since the colr we picked doesn't match. We're going to do the
bedroom in a light mediterranean blue, and we don't knoe about the
ceiling. Here's the question: We have while crown moulding around the
wall/ceiling line, and want to know if we need to paint the ceiling a
different color (other than white) to make the moulding look nice. We'd
thought about a light, light blue, just to make the moulding "pop" a bit,
but I'm not sure if that will fly with prospective buyers in a year or
two. And I don't really want to have to paint the ceiling again. Should we
just go with plain white, a color (open to suggestions here...), or what?
(It's a plain sheetrock ceiling with, as of now, 2 patched areas.)
-Leslie
Vicky Larmour
news:Pine.LNX.4.10.101061...@me1.egr.duke.edu,
We have white ceilings and white moulding (coving) around the edges
and it looks fine. But then, non-white ceilings seem to be pretty
rare around here anyway!
Vicky
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HollyLewis
>bedroom in a light mediterranean blue, and we don't knoe about the
>ceiling. Here's the question: We have while crown moulding around the
>wall/ceiling line, and want to know if we need to paint the ceiling a
>different color (other than white) to make the moulding look nice. We'd
>thought about a light, light blue, just to make the moulding "pop" a bit,
>but I'm not sure if that will fly with prospective buyers in a year or
>two. And I don't really want to have to paint the ceiling again. Should we
>just go with plain white, a color (open to suggestions here...), or what?
>(It's a plain sheetrock ceiling with, as of now, 2 patched areas.)
>
>-Leslie
>
We have one room with a crown moulding, and what I did was paint the moulding
the same white-white semigloss as the rest of the trim, and then put a bit of
the wall paint into a gallon of flat white for the ceiling. It looks really
nice; the moulding is just slightly whiter than the ceiling, plus glossier, so
it "pops" a little but not too much, and the ceiling has just a smidge of the
wall color which I think looks better than plain white would -- but the tint is
little enough that you don't really notice the color; it looks basically
white/off-white.
Really, any HFBuyer who would object to a very slightly blue ceiling is also
going to object to the blue walls, so either the whole room can stay as is or
the whole room gets repainted.
Holly
Leslie Deak
On 15 Jun 2001, HollyLewis wrote:
> We have one room with a crown moulding, and what I did was paint the moulding
> the same white-white semigloss as the rest of the trim, and then put a bit of
> the wall paint into a gallon of flat white for the ceiling. It looks really
> nice; the moulding is just slightly whiter than the ceiling, plus glossier, so
> it "pops" a little but not too much, and the ceiling has just a smidge of the
> wall color which I think looks better than plain white would -- but the tint is
> little enough that you don't really notice the color; it looks basically
> white/off-white.
Ack! This is how we got into this repainting the ceiling mess in the first
place! We think the previous owners simply ran out of wall color, so they
dumped in some white for the ceiling. And *that's* why we have to repaint
the whole $#^#^&^%(^( thing!
> Really, any HFBuyer who would object to a very slightly blue ceiling is also
> going to object to the blue walls, so either the whole room can stay as is or
> the whole room gets repainted.
Hrm. I think you're right. I think I would pick a blue you can order, and
write down the color in case there's ever more patching to do.
-Leslie
Geri
<ld...@me1.egr.duke.edu> wrote:
>Hrm. I think you're right. I think I would pick a blue you can order, and
>write down the color in case there's ever more patching to do.
Or just leave the leftover can of paint behind (if you're talking
about being considerate to HF buyers.) The Nice Old Lady we bought
from left us paint and wallpaper to match the place, should we ever
need it.
FWIW, I just asked our Painter Guy (who was here doing the kitchen;
renovation left it in need of some plastering and a paint job and
physical limitations prevent me from painting ATM and DH is *useless*
with a paintbrush) about your room. He said that he'd recommend that
you either (1) do the ceiling white and not worry about the crown
moulding. His take on it was that lots of people (us inlcuded) have
white moulding and white ceilings and it's fine; or (2) do what you
said -- use a lighter blue (like a tint) on the ceiling. He says if
you do that you should use your wall color to tint white or off-white
ceiling paint to make sure that you end up with a color that doesn't
clash with the walls.
ChatBrat - Cheryl M.
crown moulding white and the ceiling a shader pale of the same blue. It's
really, very striking and makes the moulding stand out. So, biased as I may
be, I'd recommend several shades lighter than the blue you're putting on the
walls for the ceiling. I'm also a huge advocate of ceilings that aren't
white. The only place we didn't follow this rule in our house is on the top
floor where we have cathedral ceilings and cherry wood beams and inlaid
skylights. There, we stuck with an ivory colour for the ceiling to allow
the cherry to stand out at its best advantage.
Cheryl
"Leslie Deak" <ld...@me1.egr.duke.edu> wrote in message
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ChatBrat - Cheryl M.
plenty left over for future touch-ups. Matching paint is a nightmare if
it's not done to an exact colour "recipe".
I'm very surprised that anyone in the painting biz would suggest adding
white to an existing colour!
hmmm
Cheryl
"Geri " <ger...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Geri
<wed...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'm very surprised that anyone in the painting biz would suggest adding
>white to an existing colour!
>
>hmmm
Actually, that was my bad. Edgar the Painter *did* add the caveat of
making sure that you mix an extra gallon (or two). He went so far as
to say that you should have the paint professionally mixed --
preferably at a place that will keep your "recipe" on file for you so
that it can easily be reproduced.
Hillary Israeli
Geri <ger...@earthlink.net> wrote:
*On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:00:56 -0400, Leslie Deak
*<ld...@me1.egr.duke.edu> wrote:
*
*>Hrm. I think you're right. I think I would pick a blue you can order, and
*>write down the color in case there's ever more patching to do.
*
*Or just leave the leftover can of paint behind (if you're talking
*about being considerate to HF buyers.) The Nice Old Lady we bought
*from left us paint and wallpaper to match the place, should we ever
*need it.
Get this: when we moved, we left all the paint, labelled, for each room
in the house. This took up negligible storage space in the basement. The
day of settlement, at the walk through, the new owners got pissed and told
the realtor (my mother) that we shouldn't have left our trash for them,
and basically made her drag it out to the sidewalk. We were just trying to
be nice! Apparently we should have psychically inferred that they were
going to repaint in a different color.
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Betsey Reed
>On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:00:56 -0400, Leslie Deak
><ld...@me1.egr.duke.edu> wrote:
>
>>Hrm. I think you're right. I think I would pick a blue you can order, and
>>write down the color in case there's ever more patching to do.
>
>Or just leave the leftover can of paint behind (if you're talking
>about being considerate to HF buyers.) The Nice Old Lady we bought
>from left us paint and wallpaper to match the place, should we ever
>need it.
>
*snip*
Ai. Oy. I get to tell our "funny" paint story.
When we moved in to our new house 2 years ago, there were 2 rooms we
wanted to repaint. One was yellow, and we were going to make that our
computer room (it was a teenage girl's bedroom).We didn't want to
prime the walls, just paint over them (yes, I know -- lazy), but we
didn't want a darker color (the room was already the smallest bedroom
in the 3-bedroom house). So, we just decided on a lighter yellow. We
saw the house twice before we moved into it, and each time I came out
describing the yellow as "very bright". So, I thought it wouldn't be
difficult finding a lighter shade of yellow to tone it down.
So here we are, repainting the room on the night we moved in (not a
good idea, btw). Wet, it looked pretty good, but as it dried, I swore
I couldn't tell the difference between the old and the new. I thought
I might be losing it.
We ended up taking a break, and may have even decided to buy a
diferent color of paint. I don't think we had finished repainting the
room (thank goodness!). As we were getting into the car in the garage,
I noticed some cans of paint in an open cabinet. As you may have
guessed by now, I found a can of the very same brand, very same shade
of paint we had bought as our new color!
We ended up going with 2 coats of white. It worked very well. We can
laugh about it now.
Betsey
JMH
Hillary Israeli wrote:
> Get this: when we moved, we left all the paint, labelled, for each room
> in the house. This took up negligible storage space in the basement. The
> day of settlement, at the walk through, the new owners got pissed and told
> the realtor (my mother) that we shouldn't have left our trash for them,
> and basically made her drag it out to the sidewalk. We were just trying to
> be nice! Apparently we should have psychically inferred that they were
> going to repaint in a different color.
>
When I paint a room, I put the pertinent information regarding the paint,
brand, color, store bought at, etc. on the back of the light switch plate. Out
of sight out of mind until the info is needed.
JMH
Hillary Israeli wrote:
> IGet this: when we moved, we left all the paint, labelled, for each room
> in the house. This took up negligible storage space in the basement. The
> day of settlement, at the walk through, the new owners got pissed and told
> the realtor (my mother) that we shouldn't have left our trash for them,
> and basically made her drag it out to the sidewalk. We were just trying to
> be nice! Apparently we should have psychically inferred that they were
> going to repaint in a different color.
Ungrateful wretches! They will rue the day they did this when they want to
paint and can't tell if the current paint is acrylic or oil. Painting over oil
with acrylic is a baaaaad idea.
Robin
> Get this: when we moved, we left all the paint, labelled, for each room
> in the house. This took up negligible storage space in the basement. The
> day of settlement, at the walk through, the new owners got pissed and told
> the realtor (my mother) that we shouldn't have left our trash for them,
> and basically made her drag it out to the sidewalk. We were just trying to
> be nice! Apparently we should have psychically inferred that they were
> going to repaint in a different color.
>
the extra paint and scraps of carpet!
As you all may have guessed since our intended closing date (June 13/14)
has come and gone and you haven't heard a peep out of me about it,
there's a major vent brewing.
I haven't worked up the energy to write it yet, but as soon as we
survive closing I will! Let's just say that we & the builder have
different definitions of what "the carpet is in" and "we have the
certificate of occupancy" mean. We think it means the carpet is in and
they have the CO. The builder thinks it means the carpet hasn't even
been delivered yet and there is no CO.
However, it all seems to be coming together, and the home inspection is
Monday morning. If all goes well (I've knocked on wood so many times
recently one of my co-workers has given up on answering the door because
it's always me) closing will be Friday.
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There's no need to e-mail me a copy of a follow-up; but if you do,
please identify it as such.
Lynn
We have a paint can monster in our basement. Three times now, we've
painted rooms in this house and gone down for the leftover paint
later...only to find it's gone. No one throws anything out from the
basement, that's all too obvious if you could see the basement...but
three separate paint cans are completely gone.
Lynn
--
My mind wanders...but my body is too tired to follow.
Puester
>
>
> We have a paint can monster in our basement. Three times now, we've
> painted rooms in this house and gone down for the leftover paint
> later...only to find it's gone. No one throws anything out from the
> basement, that's all too obvious if you could see the basement...but
> three separate paint cans are completely gone.
>
> Lynn
I predict you will discover them again....the day before you move out.
(It's a corollary to Murphy's Law.)
gloria p
HollyLewis
>plenty left over for future touch-ups. Matching paint is a nightmare if
>it's not done to an exact colour "recipe".
>
>I'm very surprised that anyone in the painting biz would suggest adding
>white to an existing colour!
>
>hmmm
Well, it's a small room and I basically can't imagine ever needing to paint
less than all of the ceiling. So it never occurred to me to worry about
matching it later.
When I did some similar mixing to get the color I wanted for the ceiling of the
living and dining rooms, I took a cupful of it to the paint store and had them
figure out the formula to mix however many gallons I needed. :-)
Holly
Robin
...or the day after you give up and paint the room an entirely different
color.
Leslie Deak
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Geri wrote:
> said -- use a lighter blue (like a tint) on the ceiling. He says if
> you do that you should use your wall color to tint white or off-white
> ceiling paint to make sure that you end up with a color that doesn't
> clash with the walls.
Well, we painted this weekend. I ran by Home Depot to pick up paint chips
on Friday afternoon, and DH and I had a heated, ahem, discussion on
whether or not to paint this weekend (the weather was forcasted to be
lousy Friday anight and all day Saturday). So, we got a phone call about
going to Dave & Buster's with some friends, and went by HD to pick up
paint on the way. We chose Behr paint (we had an offer from a friend to
get "good stuff" at a discount, but we didn't really have the time and it
was a hassle (far away, coordinating with friend, etc)). We chose a kind
of deep periwinkle blue for the walls (Alps Blue) and a lighter blue from
the same paint chip (Bavarian Mist) for the ceiling. We bought all the
stuff and met our friends (I'd hoped to clean out the room and move
furniture on Friday, and maybe get the ceiling done), and didn't get home
until 2am.
Saturday morning, we rolled out of bed around 10 and had coffee and read
tha paper. We watched "Trading Spaces" to psych ourselves up for the
painting, and started clearing out the room by noon. We moved out all the
furniture except for the dressers (I worked on removing all the
hardware from the walls, incl. blinds), and started by finishing up a
little bit of patch work right under the ceiling fan opening. We had to
tape the top of the crown moulding, and then we started painting the
ceiling, which took two coats. DH and I traded off--ceiling painting ain't
fun! Then we taped the bottom of the crown moulding, and the baseboard
trim, and moved the three dressers to the center of the room and
drop-clothed them. The ceiling ended up a bit more blue than I wanted it
at first, but we soldiered on.
I'm not sure what time we started the walls, but I broke for more rollers
right before the second coat at 8pm. I picked up dinner from the Peruvian
chicken joint (yum!) and we had that at around 9:30, after DH had started
the second coat. He second coated, and I worked on edges, trim, and the
hallway/closet area that was too small for a roller. We finally finished
with the second coat and then did the interior of the windows and the
window seat in bright white. We finished around 1am and decided to take
off the trim tape to discover that we'd taped a bit too low, and there was
a tan stripe under the crown moulding. We went to bed.
Got up Sunay, did coffee and the paper, and made another HD run for more
tools. We came home and re-taped the crown moulding and filled in the
stripe. It looks great now, except for the fact that the previous owners
painted the bottom of the moulding with the wall color--so we're thinking
about re-painting the moulding. All the hardware and furniture is back in
the room (I took down the heating register and spray-apinted it white--it
had been the same color of the ceiling).
So, in summary, the room is a brightish blue with white trim and crown
moulding and a light blue ceiling. It looks fabulous (I'll try to take
some pictures tonight). The two colors make the moulding really
stand out. Thanks for all the advice, folks!
-Leslie
Kelly
sellers wanting to know, How much money do I need to bring to closing? How
much money am I getting?
For Buyers:
Sales Price - Loan Amount - Deposits = Amount Need at Closing + Closing
Costs
Your lender should provide you a Good Faith Estimate of closing costs. The
Attorney's office should provide you with #s the day before the closing, but
they're not always able to do so. A lot of it depends on waiting on other
people to provide the attorney's office with information to prepare the
figures.
Sellers:
You know the sales price and you should know about how much you owe on your
mortgages, how much you owe the real estate broker. Your real estate broker
should be able to tell you what kind of closing costs are typical for
sellers.
Refinance:
Are you taking cash out for improvements? Or are you just refinancing for a
lower rate trying to take the lowest loan amout possible. Did you make your
current mortgage payment? If not, be prepared to bring the mortgage payment
you did not make to closing. If you're taking cash out no need to worry
about bringing any funds to closing. Anything you owe will be deducted from
your proceeds. If you're doing a rate and term refi you may need to bring
funds to closing.
I live & work in Massachusetts so things are probably different in other
states.
You should have a good idea of how much money you need at closing. These
numbers aren't as mysterious as people make them out to be. If you're
lender isn't giving you a Good Faith Estimate of costs, demand one. And
Remember that this is an Estimate! Not the actual closing figures. If
you're estimates are way off, you may want to take that up with your loan
officer. The Attorney's office usually has no idea what estimates you were
given nor do they care.
"Robin" <rob...@softhome.net> wrote in message
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Twinkle Toes
> When we moved in to our new house 2 years ago, there were 2 rooms we
> wanted to repaint. One was yellow, and we were going to make that our
> computer room (it was a teenage girl's bedroom).We didn't want to
> prime the walls, just paint over them (yes, I know -- lazy), but we
> didn't want a darker color (the room was already the smallest bedroom
> in the 3-bedroom house). So, we just decided on a lighter yellow. We
> saw the house twice before we moved into it, and each time I came out
> describing the yellow as "very bright". So, I thought it wouldn't be
> difficult finding a lighter shade of yellow to tone it down.
>
> So here we are, repainting the room on the night we moved in (not a
> good idea, btw). Wet, it looked pretty good, but as it dried, I swore
> I couldn't tell the difference between the old and the new. I thought
> I might be losing it.
Heh. Always buy a little test can of the color you think you want.
Come home, paint it on the walls, maybe in 2 or three different parts
of the room. Then, wait 2-3 days before buying more so you can see
your chosen paint color/texture in different light at different times
of day.
We luckily did this with a pretty peach color for our
livingroom/kitchen/breakfast room (all one big 20x40 space). It
looked like frosted peachy pepto bismo in the light of our room (lots
of windows and natural light). Looks great in our window-less little
laundry room, though (though a bit feminine--I'm on the lookout for a
laundry themed border to put up to make it look planned (: ).
-twinkle
lissi
Twinkle Toes wrote in message ...
<snip>Looks great in our window-less little
>laundry room, though (though a bit feminine--I'm on the lookout for a
>laundry themed border to put up to make it look planned (: ).
>
>-twinkle
This reminds me of the border in the Laundromat I used to go to (before I
got married and bought our wonderful Maytags with w*dding money). Anyway,
the Laundromat had a border that was so cool, although it probably wouldn't
help your peach laundry room, twinkle. It was all white with a black stripe
on top and bottom with three or four lines of black type in between that
said things like "The dryer eats socks." "Laundry is a load." and other cute
sayings.
lissi
.
Lynn
> This reminds me of the border in the Laundromat I used to go to (before I
> got married and bought our wonderful Maytags with w*dding money).
Did you get those Magtag Neptunes? We saw them at Home Depot last
Saturday. Even though I have no need for a new washer or dryer, I
positively drooled over both of these!
lissi
Lynn wrote in message <3B31019A...@stl-online.netNOSPAM>...
>lissi wrote:
>
>> This reminds me of the border in the Laundromat I used to go to (before I
>> got married and bought our wonderful Maytags with w*dding money).
>
> Did you get those Magtag Neptunes? We saw them at Home Depot last
>Saturday. Even though I have no need for a new washer or dryer, I
>positively drooled over both of these!
>
>Lynn
No, we got the Atlantis series. The Neptunes kind of scare me because they
have everything computerized, and who knows what it would take to fix that
if something were to go wrong! I like the old-fashioned buttons and knobs.
The Neptune front-loading washer was pretty nifty, though. But they are
almost twice as expensive than the Atlantis series!
lissi
Lynn A.
Yeah I thought of that, what if the computer goes out? I didn't see a
reboot button! ;)
Robin
> Yeah I thought of that, what if the computer goes out? I didn't see a
>reboot button! ;)
As long as it has a power cord, we're still in charge!