Working with the Necronomicon.
CoreyWhite
rituals are the opening of the gates. The gates are like Astrological
portals, that once opened empower you to master your own life. They
are like astrological monkey grease that get the celestial wheels
moving in your favor all the time. Each gate represents one god, who
also represents one of the planets. You have to actually create the
gate on the ground in a permanent way, and stand on top of it. To
open the gate you must preform the required invocation, and have the
seal of the god with you to act as the key. You can't open the next
gate until you have already ascended the silver ladder by opening the
first gate.
Still you also need to invoke the Watcher. The watcher is like a
personal Angel who can watch over you, or turn you to ashes. The
covenant with the gods is all you have to turn the watcher to your
assistance. Then also there are the names and seals of 50 other Gods
who can be invoked, who may also be of benefit.
The other most important aspect of the necronomicon are the chants an
exorcisms to drive away evil magic, and energy. These are the most
powerful & can give you extreme rushes of ecstacy. Then there are a
number of calls and evocations to summon forth beneficial spirits, of
the dead.
The book ends with other chapters that don't seem as significant and
cover the working of darker black magick, to show you what it is those
working with the ancient ones are up to, The book can protect you
from these forces, and tells you that the invocations are not to ever
be used.
Has anyone on these groups worked with the Necronomicon, or know of a
good way to open up the gates? I can feel the power of the book at
work in my life already, but I need to actually preform the rituals to
take the full benefit of them. This is why I ask if anyone knows of a
good way to fashion a gate on the ground. It is just a matter of
putting permanent artwork onto the floor. Maybe perhaps buying a
blank rug & painting on it. If I knew of a vacant warehouse I could
use spray paint.. But I don't have a place to open the gates, except
on the computer. A virtual reality gate might work okay.
What do you think?
Mitch
wrote:
>Has anyone on these groups worked with the Necronomicon, or know of a
>good way to open up the gates?
I just kick them. I have some pretty heavy steel-toed boots.
Or you can take a picture of the gate, then Photoshop the lock off.
That works, too.
Don D'Ammassa
@k29g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
> The necronomicon is devided into a few books. The most important
> rituals are the opening of the gates. The gates are like Astrological
> portals, that once opened empower you to master your own life. They
> are like astrological monkey grease that get the celestial wheels
> moving in your favor all the time. Each gate represents one god, who
> also represents one of the planets. You have to actually create the
> gate on the ground in a permanent way, and stand on top of it. To
> open the gate you must preform the required invocation, and have the
> seal of the god with you to act as the key. You can't open the next
> gate until you have already ascended the silver ladder by opening the
> first gate.
>
The Necronomicon is a fictional work created by H.P. Lovecraft in his
horror stories. Whatever fake Necronomicon you're looking at (there are
several) is not going to give you any power over your life because it's
just make believe. If you want power over your life, you have to do it
yourself.
Al Smith
> good way to open up the gates?
I tried making the funny little hand signs. Does that count? I got
confused. There always seemed to be an extra finger whenever I
counted them. I'd fold my fingers down like it shows in the book,
and then I'd count my fingers to make sure I had it right, and
there was always an extra finger. Spooky.
-Al-
Al Smith
It's the Simon Necronomicon. It's always the Simon Necronomicon
that these birds get hold of.
-Al-
Darkside099
> > CoreyWhite <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1183418646.079916.55560
That's because Simon understood best the whole system once again. You
can say he is kind of the new mad arab. Now there are other
Necronomicons but Simon got it right mostly since many did it and it
worked. By the way I am a priest of UR.
Darkside099
> > Has anyone on these groups worked with the Necronomicon, or know of a
> > good way to open up the gates?
>
> confused. There always seemed to be an extra finger whenever I
> counted them. I'd fold my fingers down like it shows in the book,
> and then I'd count my fingers to make sure I had it right, and
> there was always an extra finger. Spooky.
>
> -Al-
Darkside099
> CoreyWhite <CoreyWh...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1183418646.079916.55560
Darkside099
PURIFY PLACE WITH SEA SALT. AFTER MAKE SURE TO CLEAN UP CAUSE YOU DO
NOT WANT PEOPLE TO SEE THIS. COULD BE A FORM OF NO RESPECT.
Don D'Ammassa
news:1183721848.5...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
Take your meds. If anything magical in any of the Necronomicon fakes
was real, someone would have used it to prove that the power existed.
There are two kinds of people who post this kind of nonsense. The ones
who know it's a joke and get off on posting things that gullible people
might believe and those who are so seriously mentally ill that they've
had a complete break with reality. Which are you?
Al Smith
Simon got it right? Well, I agree he got it right, in the sense of
cobbling together a book that would sell well over a period of
decades. That's an achievement than I envy. It was clever to fold
the mythos in with Sumerian demonology. The mythology of Sumer has
not been very extensively exploited in modern Western esotericism,
which has concentrated more on Egypt and Greece, and more recently
on Nordic and Celtic influences. But really, the Simon
Necronomicon is a pretty flimsy book.
-Al-
Al Smith
But did you count your fingers? There's always one extra.
-Al-
blackw...@gmail.com
For best results, insert a wide-gauge hatpin into Olympiada's jugular.
Seamus
> For best results, insert a wide-gauge hatpin into Olympiada's jugular.- Hide quoted text -
*tsk* See, everyone goes for the jugular.
You really want to severthe _carotid_. That's the important one.
Tom
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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Ten, nine, eight, seven, six, and five is eleven.
Al Smith
There you go. Demons can mess with your head, and make you lose
count over and over. They make you see things that are not there,
but they also make you fail to see things that are in plain sight.
They make you hear sounds that don't exist, or fail to hear things
such as a phone ringing or someone shouting your name. You could
count the number of people in a boat, and always end up with the
wrong number; or count the number of places at a dinner table and
always find it is one place short.
-Al-
Darkside099
YOU ARE A SOB IDIOT CAUSE MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE DO NOT FUNCTION IN
SOCIETY LIKE I DO AND I WORK VERY WELL. OH THE NECRONOMICON POWERS ARE
REAL AND JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET IT DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT WORK
AT ALL FOOL. GO BACK TO MOMY BEFORE GIBIL FRIES YOU!
Darkside099
UNDERSTAND BEFORE ANYTHING FROM THE LOOKS OF IT YOU DID CHOOSE IT OR
RATHER IT DID NOT CHOOSE YOU. DON'T YOU KNOW? ONCE HUMAN ENERGY IS
TOUCHED UPON THE NECRONOMICON IT ASSERTS AND SEES IF YOU WERE OR ARE
PART OF IT. WELL I AM CAN YOU BE?
Darkside099
ONE!
Al Smith
Are you sure about that? Your extra finger seems to be making you
type everything in caps.
-Al-
joerev...@bellsouth.net
"Tom" <dantoPAYAT...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Damn good thing too!
(You need that extra one to count the others with)
Don D'Ammassa
news:1183804792....@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
> YOU ARE A SOB IDIOT CAUSE MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE DO NOT FUNCTION IN
> SOCIETY LIKE I DO AND I WORK VERY WELL. OH THE NECRONOMICON POWERS ARE
> REAL AND JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET IT DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT WORK
> AT ALL FOOL. GO BACK TO MOMY BEFORE GIBIL FRIES YOU!
>
>
Okay, if they're real, prove it. That should be relatively simple.
Don D'Ammassa
news:1183804931.4...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
>> -Al-
> WELL I AM HURT BUT SERIOUSLY IT'S NOT FLIMSY CAUSE YOU MUST FIRST
> UNDERSTAND BEFORE ANYTHING FROM THE LOOKS OF IT YOU DID CHOOSE IT OR
> RATHER IT DID NOT CHOOSE YOU. DON'T YOU KNOW? ONCE HUMAN ENERGY IS
> TOUCHED UPON THE NECRONOMICON IT ASSERTS AND SEES IF YOU WERE OR ARE
> PART OF IT. WELL I AM CAN YOU BE?
>
So exert your human energy on the Necronomicon and prove it to us.
No? I didn't think so.
blackw...@gmail.com
> On Jul 6, 2:55 pm, "blackwingb...@gmail.com"
>
> > For best results, insert a wide-gauge hatpin into Olympiada's jugular.- Hide quoted text -
>
Good point! Sever her Carotid Artery, Corey, and we'll let you into
our secret club. You won't even have to know the secret handshake.
blackw...@gmail.com
> There you go. Demons can mess with your head, and make you lose
> count over and over.
"1,2,5.."
"3, sir."
"3!"
Al Smith
See? Demon.
-Al-
blackw...@gmail.com
>
> See? Demon.
>
> -Al-
Satyr, yes. Demon? Only in Christian mythology!
Darkside099
YEAH WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME HOW TO PROVE. SO FAR I AM THINKING OF VIDEO
TAPING THE RITUALS.
Darkside099
Darkside099
Darkside099
YOU ARE FUCKED UP AND SICK. GO HAVE TUNE UP WITH RELIGION!
Don D'Ammassa
news:1184070102.7...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
If you can tap into the power of the Necronomicon, you should be able to
make arcane symbols appear in all the posts here, or make my computer
crash, or something that would make us say, Hey, he's right. But you won't
because you can't because it's all in your imagination.
Tom
<blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Who told you that? Or did you simply assume it because Christians are the
only people *you've* ever heard talking about demons? The demon goes
waaaayyy back. Classical Greeks considered demons to be what modern
Christians call angels. Demons appear in the Vedas of Hinduism, in ancient
Egyptian hieroglyphs, and in many other cultures. In fact, demons may be
even more ancient supernatural beings that the gods themselves.
Al Smith
Call 'em what you like, they'll eat your liver.
-Al-
Al Smith
That's not necessarily true. Magic obviously can't do spectacular
physical things on demand. If it could, magicians would be running
the world. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Magic may do
other things that are less obvious and less physical, but still
very important.
-Al-
Al Smith
I think it's that phantom eleventh finger of yours. It's
possessed, you know. It will make you do strange and
self-destructive things. Like picking your nose in public. Try
telling your girlfriend that it wasn't really your finger.
-Al-
Al Smith
That's telling him. Sumer was riddled with demons. They used to
trap them in inverted clay bowls with spirals written on them. The
spiral acted as a kind of maze, and lured the demon to the center
of the inverted bowl, so that it couldn't get out. They were
inverted because the demons come up from deep in the earth. Makes
you wonder if the bowls that have been found by archaeologists
still have demons, who are maybe asleep in their centers.
-Al-
Don D'Ammassa
>>> >
>>
>> If you can tap into the power of the Necronomicon, you should be able
>> to make arcane symbols appear in all the posts here, or make my
>> computer crash, or something that would make us say, Hey, he's right.
>> But you won't because you can't because it's all in your
>> imagination.
>
> That's not necessarily true. Magic obviously can't do spectacular
> physical things on demand. If it could, magicians would be running
> the world. But that doesn't mean it doesn't work. Magic may do
> other things that are less obvious and less physical, but still
> very important.
>
> -Al-
>
I'd settle for something unspectacular. But I can safely bet that I won't
get it.
Al Smith
You're a real materialist. Materialism is a philosophy of futility
and ignorance. It says, Because I can't see anything beyond my own
nose, I'm going to stoutly maintain that nothing beyond my own
nose exists.
-Al-
Don D'Ammassa
>>> > -Al-
>>> >
>> I'd settle for something unspectacular. But I can safely bet that I
>> won't get it.
>
>
> You're a real materialist. Materialism is a philosophy of futility
> and ignorance. It says, Because I can't see anything beyond my own
> nose, I'm going to stoutly maintain that nothing beyond my own
> nose exists.
>
> -Al-
>
No, I'm just not brain dead. I'm perfectly willing to accept that
something exists given evidence of its existence. I would love to believe
in ghosts and UFOs and honest politicians. Believing in something just
because you want to believe in it, with no evidence that it exists at all,
is either delusion or wishful thinking or both. Ignorance is believing
things because you want to without any evidence that you're right.
Al Smith
Aren't you willing to accept the possibility of things that exist
beyond your ability to perceive their existence? Unless you
believe that you know everything, you are more or less forced to
acknowledge that much lies beyond your perception.
And if so, how about the possibility that there might be a faculty
in the human mind that can rarely and partially perceive some of
these transcendent things, and interact with them, even though
they cannot be measured or recorded by machine, and are
unperceived by the majority of humanity?
-Al-
Don D'Ammassa
>>> >
>> No, I'm just not brain dead. I'm perfectly willing to accept that
>> something exists given evidence of its existence. I would love to
>> believe in ghosts and UFOs and honest politicians. Believing in
>> something just because you want to believe in it, with no evidence
>> that it exists at all, is either delusion or wishful thinking or
>> both. Ignorance is believing things because you want to without any
>> evidence that you're right.
>
>
> Aren't you willing to accept the possibility of things that exist
> beyond your ability to perceive their existence? Unless you
> believe that you know everything, you are more or less forced to
> acknowledge that much lies beyond your perception.
>
> And if so, how about the possibility that there might be a faculty
> in the human mind that can rarely and partially perceive some of
> these transcendent things, and interact with them, even though
> they cannot be measured or recorded by machine, and are
> unperceived by the majority of humanity?
>
>
I can believe that things are imperceptible. But I won't believe in the
existence of a specific force/object/power that only manifests itself to
people who believe in it and which can be called up by reading an arcane
book (particularly an arcane book that is known to be a hoax). A force
which cannot be perceived or measured objectively, and which cannot be
demonstrated to exist by its effect on the physical universe, is by
definition non-existent.
Al Smith
Well, no, it isn't. Your reasoning is faulty. Something can exist,
yet not be within range of our perceptions, or within range of our
measuring devices, either. Naturally, if it cannot be measured, it
would be difficult or impossible to demonstrate it, since all
manifest demonstrations would have to be amenable to measurement
and human perception, or they would not be accepted by
materialists as valid demonstrations.
The universe is so much larger and more enduring and more complex
than the tiny, tiny speck we have been able to perceive with the
aid of our machines, that for anyone to say that a thing does not
exist, merely because they have not perceived it, is quite
ludicrous. Our senses condition the way we understand the universe
-- we cannot perceive or understand anything that lies beyond
their range. Our very thought processes are conditioned by sense
impressions. But who can believe that the five senses we have (and
their mechanical extensions) are the only way of knowing the
universe? It's absurd.
-Al-
Tom
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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>> <blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1184046218.6...@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>> >
>>
>> Who told you that? Or did you simply assume it because Christians are
>> the only people *you've* ever heard talking about demons? The demon goes
>> waaaayyy back. Classical Greeks considered demons to be what modern
>> Christians call angels. Demons appear in the Vedas of Hinduism, in
>> ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, and in many other cultures. In fact,
>> demons may be even more ancient supernatural beings that the gods
>> themselves.
>
> That's telling him. Sumer was riddled with demons. They used to trap them
> in inverted clay bowls with spirals written on them. The spiral acted as a
> kind of maze, and lured the demon to the center of the inverted bowl, so
> that it couldn't get out.
Complex, maze-like patterns were used in a number of cultures as demon
traps.
> They were inverted because the demons come up from deep in the earth.
> Makes you wonder if the bowls that have been found by archaeologists still
> have demons, who are maybe asleep in their centers.
Do the archaeologists still have their livers? There's your answer.
Don D'Ammassa
Well, yes it is. Something that is undetectible, unmeasurable, and has
no effect on the physical universe is, by definition, non-existent. The
burden or proof lies with you to show that there is another way to
perceive these things, which you haven't done, and admit you can't do.
Obviously you can't prove a negative, but believing in something simply
because you want to believe that there's something there is, as I said
before, delusion or wishful thinking. All the flowery language about
the awe and wonder of the universe might be pretty, but it doesn't
change the facts.
Al Smith
I'm sure they still have the phantom shadows of their livers.
These demons are a craft crew.
-Al-
Al Smith
> no effect on the physical universe is, by definition, non-existent.
No, no, no. Undetectable by you, or even undetectable by all human
beings, does not translate into nonexistent. As for it having no
effect on the physical universe, how could you know if you can't
detect it? It may be having a huge effect that you *can't detect*
and therefore don't know about.
-Al-
Tom
Lily-livered, perhaps.
Don D'Ammassa
@edtnps89:
Then how do you know it exists? You're the one trying to make us believe
that there's an undetectible force that is imperceptible to humans and has
no impact on our world. Even if it existed, what would it matter if it has
no effect on the human race? And if it does have any effect, than it's
detectible. We may not know how, but it's detectible.
The original poster says he can detect it by performing the rituals in the
bogus Necronomicon. If that's true, than he should be able to demonstrate
the effect, even if he can't make us perceive the forces working. But he
can't, because there are no forces working, and from that it's a pretty
safe conclusion that there are no forces to detect in the first place. You
can choose to conclude otherwise, but - like I said - that's either wish
fulfillment or delusion.
Al Smith
I'm not defending the original poster. He's probably a nut. The
Simon Necronomicon is a singularly uninspiring book, in my
judgment. I think it's crap. I merely pointed out to you and
anyone else reading the thread that simply because a thing can't
be observed and measured does not necessarily mean that it doesn't
exist.
The mindset that dismisses spiritual matters because they cannot
be measured and verified in mechanical ways is pathetically
arrogant. We know almost nothing about the universe. We perceive
almost nothing. We are like single-celled organisms in a drop of
pond slime. How much does a paramecium know about Shakespeare?
And that is not an exaggeration, that is the type of scale we are
confronting -- the ignorance of a single-celled organism is *less*
comparatively speaking than our own ignorance when compared with
the beings of higher intelligence that undoubted exist elsewhere
in the universe.
Can I *prove* that they exist? Not to your satisfaction, no. Does
this in any way affect the probability of their existence? No.
-Al-
Al Smith
I understand that they prefer them with fava beans.
-Al-
blackw...@gmail.com
> YOU ARE FUCKED UP AND SICK. GO HAVE TUNE UP WITH RELIGION!
Ok, you little Gothling-wannabe... Go back to smoking clove-cigarettes
in front of Barnes & Nobles and pretending you know what you are
talking about. You don't know anything.
blackw...@gmail.com
>
> > Satyr, yes. Demon? Only in Christian mythology!
>
> Who told you that? Or did you simply assume it because Christians are the
> only people *you've* ever heard talking about demons? The demon goes
> waaaayyy back. Classical Greeks considered demons to be what modern
> Christians call angels. Demons appear in the Vedas of Hinduism, in ancient
> Egyptian hieroglyphs, and in many other cultures. In fact, demons may be
> even more ancient supernatural beings that the gods themselves.
Before you jump someone's butt, assuming they know less than you:
Christianity is the ONLY religion to claim satyrs were demons.
blackw...@gmail.com
> > <blackwingb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Yes, but while both of you thoroughly enjoyed chastising me, you
missed my point: only Christians believed satyrs were demons. I NEVER
claimed only Christianity had demons.
Tom
<blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's not an assumption. It's a conclusion based on considerable evidence.
> Christianity is the ONLY religion to claim satyrs were demons.
Some Christians have done so. Mostm being mostly sensible people, don't
believe in satyrs at all. So have some Moslems, Hindus, Jews, and Animists.
Probably some ancients Greeks did, too. They used to argue about
everything.
But don't let that stop you from hating Christians. They are the ENEMY!!!!
They are DEMONS!!!!
Al Smith
Demon is just a word, and a misused word, too. It comes from the
Greek concept of the tutelary daemon, such as the familiar spirit
that guided and protected Socrates. He was famous throughout the
ancient world for his daemon. In Christianity this concept was
morphed into the guardian angel, while at the same time the gods
of the pagans were transformed into demons of hell. Satan himself
is really an angel, and is really named Lucifer, the Light-Bearer
if we can believe the folklore.
-Al-
Darkside099
That is BS! Satan and Lucifer are way different! They are evil and yes
you don't know what they are capable of but I do. They have to be
destroyed! Permanently!
Darkside099
for over 11 years! So you don't know anything at all mister! See ya!
Don D'Ammassa
news:1184494684.1...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
If you believe the fake Necronomicons are real, you'll have to pardon us if
we doubt anything that you say you "know".
Seamus
> That is BS! Satan and Lucifer are way different! They are evil and yes
> you don't know what they are capable of but I do. They have to be
> destroyed! Permanently!
But... If you destroy the source of all evil, what would be the point
of Christianity then? It would become nothing but a fear-and-guilt-
mongering corporations hell-bent on taking your money.
... Oh, wait.
CoreyWhite
The demons in the bible are only there to replace the wrath of the old
testament god. They aren't working against Jesus, they are only there
to cast out evil, and punish the wiked.
Michael Plog
The concepts of demon, satyr, etc. are merely humans sharing ignorance about
things that don't really exist. If you want a wonderful discussion about
demons, refer to Robert Asprin. His books are readily available and contain
the best explanation of demons. The description is clear, there is no junk
about what a bunch of ignorant christians in early centuries believed, or
about what a bunch of equally ignorant tribal shamans believed. If you have
not read his books, you might find the effort well worth your time.
<snip - a lot of nonsense that leaving in would only cause more clogging of
the Internet>
Dan Clore
> That is BS! Satan and Lucifer are way different! They are evil and yes
> you don't know what they are capable of but I do. They have to be
> destroyed! Permanently!
Total nonsense! Neither Satan nor Lucifer exist -- if they did, they
would be in the Monster Manual!!!
--
Dan Clore
My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:
http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
Lord We˙rdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://www.geocities.com/clorebeast/
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
-- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
Al Smith
>> > Greek concept of the tutelary daemon, such as the familiar spirit
>> > that guided and protected Socrates. He was famous throughout the
>> > ancient world for his daemon. In Christianity this concept was
>> > morphed into the guardian angel, while at the same time the gods
>> > of the pagans were transformed into demons of hell. Satan himself
>> > is really an angel, and is really named Lucifer, the Light-Bearer
>> > if we can believe the folklore.
>> >
>> > -Al-
>
> That is BS! Satan and Lucifer are way different! They are evil and yes
> you don't know what they are capable of but I do. They have to be
> destroyed! Permanently!
>
You're going to destroy evil? Hey, good luck with that. Without
evil, good would have no meaning. Good is defined by evil. They
two are opposite extremes of the same thing. Like warm and cold.
Both are temperatures. Warm only has meaning when contrasted with
cold. If you could make cold cease to exist, somehow, there would
be no warm, either. You can't have light without dark. You can't
have up without down. That's why the Devil exists, and why he will
always exist. Because he is made of the same stuff as God.
In Christian folklore, which was unofficially recognized by the
demonologists of the Church for centuries, Lucifer was the highest
angel, who rebelled against the authority of God and led an army
of other angels in a civil war in heaven. He was cast down into a
pit or abyss, and when he fell he was transformed from something
beautiful into something ugly. His name changed from Lucifer, Star
of the Morning, to Satan, the Adversary.
-Al-
Al Smith
Thing about the early Christians is, they actually interacted on a
personal level with demons. I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss
what they had to say about demons. Sure, their interpretations of
what demons are and where they came from may be questionable, but
their actual experiences with demons are worth studying.
-Al-
Seamus
> If you believe the fake Necronomicons are real, you'll have to pardon us if
> we doubt anything that you say you "know".
Um... Are you referring to the Trashback?
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews5/necronomicon.htm
'Cause that was a steaming pile of false.
Donald Tysons' Necronomicon isn't intended to be taken seriously,
either.
Seamus
> we doubt anything that you say you "know".
Sorry, for some reason my eyes crossed and I read this completely
wrong.
:shrug: I suppose I just reaffirmed your stance. Ah well, we're making
the same point. No problem.
Darkside099
Well that's ok most people do end up insane. You see the Necronomicon
has a life of its own. You either get the system or you screw up in it
and suffer a lot unless you find out how to undo the wrongs. It's not
fake it's real and if it does not work for you then you have been
rejected by it. Accept it and find another religion. This book either
chooses you or you find out how to work it.
Darkside099
at new with another system that does not judge something evil. It will
be all good and nothing bad. The problem is that evil is part of the
balance and thus if it was to be that it does not disrupt such
balance; one would have to find a way to contain it permanently.
Darkside099
Interesting point Corey in terms of Christianity having certain
manipulation by man to change it or part of its meanings. I am curious
as to who gave you this info? Interesting thoughts but some demons are
indeed working against Jesus but they are much more pissed at GOD
though.
Darkside099
I hope the guy is not some sort of Atheist cause his views will never
fall for my gullibility if you know what I mean. Beliefs are one thing
but evil is out there and if you can explain why some people do things
and yet there is no explanation like the crazy Virginia tech shooter
well try again if you think he did cause of some brainwashing or
training or society ignoring him. By the way I know psychology is BS
to a certain point.
Don D'Ammassa
news:1184579068.9...@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> If you believe the fake Necronomicons are real, you'll have to pardon
>> us if we doubt anything that you say you "know".
>
> Well that's ok most people do end up insane. You see the Necronomicon
> has a life of its own. You either get the system or you screw up in it
> and suffer a lot unless you find out how to undo the wrongs. It's not
> fake it's real and if it does not work for you then you have been
> rejected by it. Accept it and find another religion. This book either
> chooses you or you find out how to work it.
>
>
No, it's not real. It's well documented that it is a fake. You really,
seriously need professional help as you are evidently delusional.
Don D'Ammassa
news:1184579695....@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
> I hope the guy is not some sort of Atheist cause his views will never
> fall for my gullibility if you know what I mean. Beliefs are one thing
> but evil is out there and if you can explain why some people do things
> and yet there is no explanation like the crazy Virginia tech shooter
> well try again if you think he did cause of some brainwashing or
> training or society ignoring him. By the way I know psychology is BS
> to a certain point.
>
Your last comment suggests that you have refused to be treated for your
delusions. You may want to rethink that decision.
Seamus
> No if evil is destroyed then paradise is upon us then we can restart
> at new with another system that does not judge something evil. It will
> be all good and nothing bad. The problem is that evil is part of the
> balance and thus if it was to be that it does not disrupt such
> balance; one would have to find a way to contain it permanently.
I'll be damned, man, you've touched on the whole point: Balance. The
entire idea of "destroying evil" is problematic for that reason alone,
although what with "evil" being defined differently by every
individual (ask ten different people what they call evil, and you'll
get ten different variations), it sort of makes for a difficult task.
I know I made a slightly coy stab at the Vatican in my response
above, but I was sort of pointing out how "evil" has thoroughly
permeated even those who are supposed to be "good".
Seamus
See my post about the Trashback, and Donald Tysons' rendition of the
Necronomicon above, please.
The Necronimicon is a fictional work (it doesn't really exist) that
several authors have tried to write based on H.P. Lovecrafts'
"excerpts" from the book in his writings. The "Trashback" as some call
it is a work of poorly written shock value. Nothing more - in fact it
has nothing to do with Lovecrafts book at all.
Al Smith
I know, we'll paint a portrait of evil. Then, instead of bad
things happening in the world, the picture will get pimples.
Zit is the only zolution.
-Al-
Seamus
> I know, we'll paint a portrait of evil. Then, instead of bad
> things happening in the world, the picture will get pimples.
> Zit is the only zolution.
>
> -Al-
Nice reference, Mr. Smith. :)
Manipura Entity
> The necronomicon is devided into a few books. The most important
> rituals are the opening of the gates. The gates are like Astrological
> portals, that once opened empower you to master your own life. They
> are like astrological monkey grease that get the celestial wheels
> moving in your favor all the time. Each gate represents one god, who
> also represents one of the planets. You have to actually create the
> gate on the ground in a permanent way, and stand on top of it. To
> open the gate you must preform the required invocation, and have the
> seal of the god with you to act as the key. You can't open the next
> gate until you have already ascended the silver ladder by opening the
> first gate.
>
> Still you also need to invoke the Watcher. The watcher is like a
> personal Angel who can watch over you, or turn you to ashes. The
> covenant with the gods is all you have to turn the watcher to your
> assistance. Then also there are the names and seals of 50 other Gods
> who can be invoked, who may also be of benefit.
>
> The other most important aspect of the necronomicon are the chants an
> exorcisms to drive away evil magic, and energy. These are the most
> powerful & can give you extreme rushes of ecstacy. Then there are a
> number of calls and evocations to summon forth beneficial spirits, of
> the dead.
>
> The book ends with other chapters that don't seem as significant and
> cover the working of darker black magick, to show you what it is those
> working with the ancient ones are up to, The book can protect you
> from these forces, and tells you that the invocations are not to ever
> be used.
>
> Has anyone on these groups worked with the Necronomicon, or know of a
> good way to open up the gates? I can feel the power of the book at
> work in my life already, but I need to actually preform the rituals to
> take the full benefit of them. This is why I ask if anyone knows of a
> good way to fashion a gate on the ground. It is just a matter of
> putting permanent artwork onto the floor. Maybe perhaps buying a
> blank rug & painting on it. If I knew of a vacant warehouse I could
> use spray paint.. But I don't have a place to open the gates, except
> on the computer. A virtual reality gate might work okay.
>
> What do you think?
Well, as far as the keys...
I'd stick with the first 12, the rest are BS.
And good luck with that. U need a certain type of DNA to say the
words right...
You know you're saying them right, because of what your voice sounds
like.
The "godform" Rite is being possessed without loosing conciousness, a
type of channeling, which is required to do these invocations.
It has an effect on your voice and personality, and some people don't
recover or "snap back" which will cause permanent psychosis, and
possibly MPD in the future.
Failure has a result as negative as success if u say the words right,
which is good to remember, as life can really suck after that. :-P
The one part you always leave out is about being God, and a few other
things are edited...
The Allignments of other Planets change a lot, so you do only three
keys than the 12th. That's always been the rule.
Good luck pulling that off. You have to work with these people to
know what they are about, and to know who is a friend and enemy of the
Watchers now.
Also, you need permission from all the Watchers, and Keyholders (one
for each Key you invoke) personally, to do the invocation, and have to
re-request permission in-between keys.
And you d-mn well better know what you're saying, because there must
be mutual agreement in it. The translation is... Iffy at best, and
you have to mean what you are saying too.
And the typos...
They're not exactaly words, as much as making vibrations from your
Solar Plexus.
Oh, the only Necronomicon worth reading, I've found, is Lovecraft's
(Yes, the fake one)... And if it's bogus to you...
You don't have the DNA to do the invocation anyway. If the book
scares the living sh-t out of you... Then you do, and also, you're
really weak, and should do more serious research, and less playing
around.
Here's the keys:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/enoch/callench.htm
If all you're looking for is a Gate in, don't start with the
Necronomicon...
I can open one for u. Send me an E-mail sometime.
-Timothy
mika
>
> The one part you always leave out is about being God,
What?! That's the most important part of all.
Al Smith
I'm a wild and crazy guy. I should get an Oscar.
-Al-
Manipura Entity
Have you been listening to someone using Lucifer's name again...?
Who's using it now?
Lucifer is an old friend of mine.
Secondborn after the Christ actually... His little brother if u will.
You must be thinking of Lucifuge...?
And Satan is a Title, not a name.
Opposor.
For example, Prosecuting Attorney, US Soilder, Criminal, Tyrant,
President...
It is neither good or evil, just a Title.
Which is why God's "Prosecuting Attourney" in Heaven, if you will
"Satan" talked about Lot so much...
Someone prayed to him too much I guess.
The English re-translation doesn't do it justice either...
So whatever is in your heart when you pray...
Really has an effect on things.
If ya hate the president, and pray against Satan...
God doesn't answer prayers with hate.
Lucifuge is answering ur prayers though.
Thanks for the hate and curses.
Manipura Entity
> Darkside099 wrote:
> > That is BS! Satan and Lucifer are way different! They are evil and yes
> > you don't know what they are capable of but I do. They have to be
> > destroyed! Permanently!
>
> Total nonsense! Neither Satan nor Lucifer exist -- if they did, they
> would be in the Monster Manual!!!
>
> --
> Dan Clore
>
> My collected fiction, _The Unspeakable and Others_:http://amazon.com/o/ASIN/1587154838/ref=nosim/thedanclorenecro
> News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> Strange pleasures are known to him who flaunts the
> immarcescible purple of poetry before the color-blind.
> -- Clark Ashton Smith, "Epigrams and Apothegms"
LOL.
Wish there were more lighthearted ppl like u on the board.
:-P
-Timothy
Manipura Entity
WoW...
That was really mean.
I mean...
I know what u just did.
That was just cruel, bro...
What if I made u go crazy?
;-)
@.@
-Timothy
Michael Plog
there is no such thing as the real one. Perhaps there is no such thing as a
"real" religion? Because of all the cross posting, you are getting some
people who do not accept any of your "miracles," and who perform at will, a
set of miracles. Perhaps if you did not cross post as much, you would not
get those of us who think you are totally without logic or ability to reason
through. I know Corey started cross posting, but that is not a
rationalization for you to be equally inept and obnoxious. By the way, some
of our group will be happy to sell you this Necronomicons in print form. An
autograph from the author will take 15 minutes longer.
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Don D'Ammassa
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> WoW...
> That was really mean.
> I mean...
>
> I know what u just did.
> That was just cruel, bro...
> What if I made u go crazy?
> ;-)
> @.@
It wasn't meant to be mean. He seriously needs treatment.
Michael Plog
suggest, however, that your crossposting is making it much more difficult
for anyone to take you seriously. Perhaps instead of hitting "reply to
group," you could eliminate all but your own group. That way, you won't be
doing the same evil Corey and others are by cross posting to all the groups
that don't care about your puny Sumerian deity and his offspring. Try
it--just delete the newsgroups except the one your are reading this in.
Also, if you ever want to grow spiritually, you will need to ask questions.
If you think you have the right questions, let me know. If they are
correct, you may be contacted for improvement of your spirituality. But,
this is America and you are allowed to practice all the lesser religions you
want.
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Don D'Ammassa
>
> Oh, the only Necronomicon worth reading, I've found, is Lovecraft's
> (Yes, the fake one)... And if it's bogus to you...
> You don't have the DNA to do the invocation anyway. If the book
> scares the living sh-t out of you... Then you do, and also, you're
> really weak, and should do more serious research, and less playing
> around.
>
Neat trick that. Lovecraft never wrote a Necronomicon, fake or otherwise.
Seamus
> Neat trick that. Lovecraft never wrote a Necronomicon, fake or otherwise.
Exactly.
Rufus Opus
Seamus,
What thread were we having an interesting conversation on last week?
I mean, I know, it was so last week... The weekend totally distracted
me. I can't find what was interesting Wednesday.
-R.O.
Seamus
> Seamus,
>
> What thread were we having an interesting conversation on last week?
>
> I mean, I know, it was so last week... The weekend totally distracted
> me. I can't find what was interesting Wednesday.
>
> -R.O.
"The Absolute Ultimate Spell... " IIRC. Thsi was the conversation on
the differences between "High" and "Low" magick, yes?
Medusa Slox
"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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You can get one at your local pet store, you know.
I had one named "4 best supporting actress"
just so I could say
"That's my Oscar, 4 Best Supporting Actress."
Medusa Slox
Darkside099
QUITE. YOU JUST DO NO UNDERSTAND IT. ANYWAYS I WANT TO SEE THAT PROOF
UNTIL THEN I HAVE PROOF ON MY SIDE THAT IT WORKS. BYE!
Darkside099
SO BYE.
Darkside099
idea what is coming up.
Darkside099
the Vatican when priests become gay or have problems with kids you
know what I mean. Yes indeed evil can corrupt all but resisting it you
must.
Darkside099
I am not sure whether it will work but you can try. Finding a spell to
trap it inside the painting then sealing the world somehow would be
most interesting but how to find that evil?
Darkside099
close to him.
Darkside099
wrote:
> Who's using it now? CULTS DAH!
> Lucifer is an old friend of mine. THEN HE SHALL BE DESTROYED BUT YOU SHALL NOT COMMUNICATE WITH HIM. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO LUCIFER REALLY IS DO YOU?
> Secondborn after the Christ actually... His little brother if u will. YEAH A FAILURE THAT LUCIFER ALONG WITH REBELLION OF HIS AGAINST GOD? FOOL!
> You must be thinking of Lucifuge...? NO
>
> And Satan is a Title, not a name. YEAH IT'S A NAME BUT I KNOW HIS REAL NAME AND EVEN NATURE.
> Opposor.
> For example, Prosecuting Attorney, US Soilder, Criminal, Tyrant,
> President...
> Which is why God's "Prosecuting Attourney" in Heaven, if you will. YEAH THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT ITS SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT.
> "Satan" talked about Lot so much...
> The English re-translation doesn't do it justice either...
>
> So whatever is in your heart when you pray...
> If ya hate the president, and pray against Satan...
> Lucifuge is answering ur prayers though. NEVER THAT IS ABSURD.
Darkside099
wrote:
I AM OK WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT?
Darkside099
> Gee, what evidence do you have that you are reading the "real" one? WELL I KNOW FOR A FACT THE WORD S AND SYMBOLS ARE QUITE REAL SO I WOULD NOT PUSH MYSELF TO PROVE TO YOU MORE. Perhaps
> there is no such thing as the real one. Perhaps there is no such thing as a
> people who do not accept any of your "miracles," and who perform at will, a
> get those of us who think you are totally without logic or ability to reason
> rationalization for you to be equally inept and obnoxious. I AM NOT LIKE THAT HOW CAN YOU JUDGE! YOU CAN ONLY HAVE OPINIONS AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM JUST TO INFORM YOU! By the way, some
> of our group will be happy to sell you this Necronomicons in print form. An
>
> "Darkside099" <archangel111...@gmail.com> wrote in message