Male sweat relaxes women Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. 28 May 2003 HELEN R. PILCHER
Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female volunteers.
It also shifts menstrual cycles, so the discovery could give rise to perspiration-derived drugs to manipulate female fertility.
"The underarm contains physiologically active pheromones," says chemist George Preti of the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelpha, Pennsylvania, who led the study. These behaviour-altering chemicals - which are common throughout the animal world - can affect the brain, and hence our bodies, without our even realizing it.
For six hours, female volunteers were exposed to pheromones concentrated from manly armpit odour - mercifully masked by fragrance. Levels of luteinizing hormone, a key player in the menstrual cycle, were monitored.
Luteinizing hormone is released from the brain in pulses - these become larger and more frequent as a woman approaches ovulation. Exposure to the male odour accelerated the arrival of the next hormone rush, Preti's team found1.
The volunteers also reported feeling less tense and more relaxed as they sniffed. Both effects may be a throwback to our impulse-primed past, suggests Preti.
Busy hunter-gather cavemen and cavewomen may have had limited time to enjoy each other's company. A cavewoman's reproductive system may have evolved to be ready for her beau by shifting hormonal levels in response to his scent, agrees pheromone researcher Charles Wysocki, also at the Monell centre. "Women may respond to signals in the environment that facilitate successful reproduction," he says.
Again, this is speculative, but the reported relaxing effect of male armpit odour may also increase the chances of reproduction. A relaxed woman is more likely to be receptive to a man, suggests Wysocki.
"This presents a dichotomy," says Ivanka Savic from the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, who studies the effects of pheromones on the brain. The perceived free will of modern-day dating may be compromised by our ancestor's needs. "Our biology is primitive but we're living in a sophisticated world," she says.
The findings may be good news for couples wanting to maximize their chances of conception. Once the active pheromones have been identified and isolated, researchers may be able to modify them to produce a new generation of potent fertility drugs, Preti speculates. In the search for new drugs, "people have looked in the rainforests and under the seas", he says. "But there are some very interesting physiologically active chemicals under the arm."
References Preti, G. et al. Male axillary extracts contain pheromones that affect pulsatile secretion of luteinizing hormone and mood in women recipients. Biology of Reproduction, 68, 2107 - 2103, (2003). |Homepage|
broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message <news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > Male sweat relaxes women > Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > 28 May 2003 > HELEN R. PILCHER
> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > volunteers.
I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? Donna
On 28 May 2003 16:47:00 -0700, donn...@collinscom.net (Donna) wrote:
>broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message <news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... >> Male sweat relaxes women >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. >> 28 May 2003 >> HELEN R. PILCHER
>> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
>> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female >> volunteers.
>I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? >Donna
One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an olfactory standpoint.
> >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message <news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > >> Male sweat relaxes women > >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > >> 28 May 2003 > >> HELEN R. PILCHER
> >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > >> volunteers.
> >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? > >Donna
> One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which > smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females > are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I > reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily > shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an > olfactory standpoint.
> BroJack
I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of body odor.
Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good stuff. Of course... you might have to share with a lizard or two because the windows don't have any glass, the curtains can't keep em out, and they just crawl right inside when the cooking is going on. Hanging out on the ledge there by your table. Soaking in some rays. So anyways... you go inside and at first it seems like no one is there because everything is really quiet, and really you are pretty much out in the middle of 'nowhere'. But that's only because the brothers already know you've arrived and they are back in the kitchen getting things fired up. Now at first you might feel a little uncomfortable because of all the good service. The minute you pull out a chair and sit down, those brothers are right there making sure you have everything you need. Water, napkins, coffee or tea, menu... you name it. If it's a hot day you get a whole pitcher of water on your table - and this is an area that doesn't see a lot of water coming down, if you know what I mean. So that water is kinda like gold when you're in the right frame of mind. Once you're all situated, you start hearing music. It must come from the kitchen. Sounds like it's coming from outside, but it couldn't be, so it must be the kitchen. Just a nice soft rhythmic sound with a slight melody behind it, like a flute... maybe. Or some other kind of wind instrument, who knows, I never did figure it out. Both brothers bring your food, and the one who cooks sorta hovers around for awhile. He is anxious to see that you like it. The plate is huge, and that fry bread is clear to the edge and piled with every fresh good thing you can imagine on a dish of Mexican food. You don't even notice until you've somehow managed to get through half your meal that the plate is handpainted and fired in a beautiful design of blue and coral. You forget about the lizards, or the fact that the brothers are standing off to the side watching you take each bite, questioning you with their eyes. After you've nodded and smiled a few times to let them know how wonderful it all is, you get a little 'lost' in the whole experience. Wherever you were an hour ago, you're in a whole 'nuther world now, Jack.
Don't know if that place is still there, but I've always given it a four star rating. :)
> > >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message > > ><news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > > >> Male sweat relaxes women > > >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > > >> 28 May 2003 > > >> HELEN R. PILCHER
> > >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> > >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > > >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > > >> volunteers.
> > >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? > > >Donna
> > One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which > > smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females > > are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I > > reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily > > shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an > > olfactory standpoint.
> > BroJack
> I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and > I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your > Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a > burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of > body odor.
> Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if > I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant > there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. > It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the > building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it > isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some > of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard > of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So > what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry > bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and > cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good > stuff.
There used to be a place in Black Canyon City that sold pies. I remember my parents taking me there a couple of times on road trips when I was a kid and we would stop for the best pies you can imagine. Right in the middle of Black Canyon City, which is a pretty place in the winter and nasty hot in the summer.
The Mexican resteraunt you describe is like so many in Arizona. Little family places that have killer salsa, and good bowls of red and green chili. One of my favorites used to be in Hayden, it was a place called Casa Rivera. Had a salsa bar and inexpensive dishes that were a combination of fire and unique flavors. Unfortunately it burned to the ground a couple of years ago. The Guayo's El Rey in Globe is another place for great Mexican food. Pinetop has the El Rancho which is pretty good. All little mom and pops.
Lately my wife and I have been going to these little taco carts in Tucson. Mexican immigrants from deep in Mexico make these amazing dishes. My favorite is the Sonoran hot dogs with bacon wrapped around the dog and then beans, guacamole, mustard, catsup, mayonnaise, salsa, and cheese are placed on top. Sounds bad, and it is bad for you, but the flavor is amazing.
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> Donna
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>> >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message <news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... >> >> Male sweat relaxes women >> >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. >> >> 28 May 2003 >> >> HELEN R. PILCHER
>> >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
>> >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's >> >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female >> >> volunteers.
>> >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? >> >Donna
>> One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which >> smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females >> are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I >> reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily >> shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an >> olfactory standpoint.
>> BroJack
>I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and >I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your >Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a >burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of >body odor.
>Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if >I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant >there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. >It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the >building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it >isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some >of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard >of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So >what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry >bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and >cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good >stuff. Of course... you might have to share with a lizard or two >because the windows don't have any glass, the curtains can't keep em >out, and they just crawl right inside when the cooking is going on. >Hanging out on the ledge there by your table. Soaking in some rays. So >anyways... you go inside and at first it seems like no one is there >because everything is really quiet, and really you are pretty much out >in the middle of 'nowhere'. But that's only because the brothers >already know you've arrived and they are back in the kitchen getting >things fired up. Now at first you might feel a little uncomfortable >because of all the good service. The minute you pull out a chair and >sit down, those brothers are right there making sure you have >everything you need. Water, napkins, coffee or tea, menu... you name >it. If it's a hot day you get a whole pitcher of water on your table - >and this is an area that doesn't see a lot of water coming down, if >you know what I mean. So that water is kinda like gold when you're in >the right frame of mind. Once you're all situated, you start hearing >music. It must come from the kitchen. Sounds like it's coming from >outside, but it couldn't be, so it must be the kitchen. Just a nice >soft rhythmic sound with a slight melody behind it, like a flute... >maybe. Or some other kind of wind instrument, who knows, I never did >figure it out. Both brothers bring your food, and the one who cooks >sorta hovers around for awhile. He is anxious to see that you like it. >The plate is huge, and that fry bread is clear to the edge and piled >with every fresh good thing you can imagine on a dish of Mexican food. >You don't even notice until you've somehow managed to get through half >your meal that the plate is handpainted and fired in a beautiful >design of blue and coral. You forget about the lizards, or the fact >that the brothers are standing off to the side watching you take each >bite, questioning you with their eyes. After you've nodded and smiled >a few times to let them know how wonderful it all is, you get a little >'lost' in the whole experience. Wherever you were an hour ago, you're >in a whole 'nuther world now, Jack.
>Don't know if that place is still there, but I've always given it a >four star rating. :)
On Thu, 29 May 2003 17:42:02 GMT, "Jack Strong" <> wrote: >Lately my wife and I have been going to these little taco carts in Tucson. >Mexican immigrants from deep in Mexico make these amazing dishes. My >favorite is the Sonoran hot dogs with bacon wrapped around the dog and then >beans, guacamole, mustard, catsup, mayonnaise, salsa, and cheese are placed >on top. Sounds bad, and it is bad for you, but the flavor is amazing.
Aren't those little carts super! I went to Mexico with college friends and ate at those street carts. My friends kept seriously hassling me over and over that I would get sick. But I just kept giving the folks my dimes and quarters and happily eating my fill without any problems. The various stuff all tasted great.
> > > >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message > > > ><news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > > > >> Male sweat relaxes women > > > >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > > > >> 28 May 2003 > > > >> HELEN R. PILCHER
> > > >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> > > >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > > > >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > > > >> volunteers.
> > > >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? > > > >Donna
> > > One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which > > > smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females > > > are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I > > > reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily > > > shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an > > > olfactory standpoint.
> > > BroJack
> > I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and > > I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your > > Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a > > burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of > > body odor.
> > Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if > > I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant > > there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. > > It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the > > building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it > > isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some > > of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard > > of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So > > what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry > > bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and > > cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good > > stuff.
> There used to be a place in Black Canyon City that sold pies. I remember my > parents taking me there a couple of times on road trips when I was a kid and > we would stop for the best pies you can imagine. Right in the middle of > Black Canyon City, which is a pretty place in the winter and nasty hot in > the summer.
> The Mexican resteraunt you describe is like so many in Arizona. Little > family places that have killer salsa, and good bowls of red and green chili. > One of my favorites used to be in Hayden, it was a place called Casa > Rivera. Had a salsa bar and inexpensive dishes that were a combination of > fire and unique flavors. Unfortunately it burned to the ground a couple of > years ago. The Guayo's El Rey in Globe is another place for great Mexican > food. Pinetop has the El Rancho which is pretty good. All little mom and > pops.
> Lately my wife and I have been going to these little taco carts in Tucson. > Mexican immigrants from deep in Mexico make these amazing dishes. My > favorite is the Sonoran hot dogs with bacon wrapped around the dog and then > beans, guacamole, mustard, catsup, mayonnaise, salsa, and cheese are placed > on top. Sounds bad, and it is bad for you, but the flavor is amazing.
Those carts weren't around when I lived there, but they sound great! Okay... now I am getting really hungry for some good Mexican food. :) Thanks for sharing that, Jack. I've been in all those places you mentioned, brings back some really good memories. Hey... by chance did you ever get to go to Jerome before it became a tourist spot?
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> >> >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message <news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > >> >> Male sweat relaxes women > >> >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > >> >> 28 May 2003 > >> >> HELEN R. PILCHER
> >> >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> >> >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > >> >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > >> >> volunteers.
> >> >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? > >> >Donna
> >> One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin which > >> smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that females > >> are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I > >> reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily > >> shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an > >> olfactory standpoint.
> >> BroJack
> >I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and > >I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your > >Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a > >burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of > >body odor.
> >Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if > >I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant > >there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. > >It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the > >building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it > >isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some > >of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard > >of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So > >what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry > >bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and > >cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good > >stuff. Of course... you might have to share with a lizard or two > >because the windows don't have any glass, the curtains can't keep em > >out, and they just crawl right inside when the cooking is going on. > >Hanging out on the ledge there by your table. Soaking in some rays. So > >anyways... you go inside and at first it seems like no one is there > >because everything is really quiet, and really you are pretty much out > >in the middle of 'nowhere'. But that's only because the brothers > >already know you've arrived and they are back in the kitchen getting > >things fired up. Now at first you might feel a little uncomfortable > >because of all the good service. The minute you pull out a chair and > >sit down, those brothers are right there making sure you have > >everything you need. Water, napkins, coffee or tea, menu... you name > >it. If it's a hot day you get a whole pitcher of water on your table - > >and this is an area that doesn't see a lot of water coming down, if > >you know what I mean. So that water is kinda like gold when you're in > >the right frame of mind. Once you're all situated, you start hearing > >music. It must come from the kitchen. Sounds like it's coming from > >outside, but it couldn't be, so it must be the kitchen. Just a nice > >soft rhythmic sound with a slight melody behind it, like a flute... > >maybe. Or some other kind of wind instrument, who knows, I never did > >figure it out. Both brothers bring your food, and the one who cooks > >sorta hovers around for awhile. He is anxious to see that you like it. > >The plate is huge, and that fry bread is clear to the edge and piled > >with every fresh good thing you can imagine on a dish of Mexican food. > >You don't even notice until you've somehow managed to get through half > >your meal that the plate is handpainted and fired in a beautiful > >design of blue and coral. You forget about the lizards, or the fact > >that the brothers are standing off to the side watching you take each > >bite, questioning you with their eyes. After you've nodded and smiled > >a few times to let them know how wonderful it all is, you get a little > >'lost' in the whole experience. Wherever you were an hour ago, you're > >in a whole 'nuther world now, Jack.
> >Don't know if that place is still there, but I've always given it a > >four star rating. :)
> >No one has topped it yet.
> >Donna
> What's fry bread?
> BroJack
It is fried bread, kinda like an elephant ear, but better if it's made right. Here in Wyoming and South Dakota, you can even get fry bread mix in the store (just add water, hahaha). People love it but don't always know how to make it very well. If you are a good boy and start giving up on the 'hate agenda' maybe I will send you some one day.
> > > > >broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote in message > > > > ><news:f911496e4d2bdebd88a374931aff1557@TeraNews>... > > > > >> Male sweat relaxes women > > > > >> Men's underarms may hold clue to new fertility drug. > > > > >> 28 May 2003 > > > > >> HELEN R. PILCHER
> > > > >> Male underarms relax women and may make them more fertile.
> > > > >> Ladies! Looking for a way to relax? Then try sniffing a man's > > > > >> underarm. New research shows that armpit sweat calms female > > > > >> volunteers.
> > > > >I guess it was this or becoming a Walmart greeter, eh, Jack? > > > > >Donna
> > > > One reason I hate Mexican food is that they douse it with cumin > > > > which > > > > smells like stale armpits. Now comes a study that shows that > > > > females > > > > are relaxed, even turned on, by the smell of stale male 'pits. So I > > > > reckon that society's unloved, unwanted losers will forgo that daily > > > > shower and anti-perspirant, and the rest of us will suffer from an > > > > olfactory standpoint.
> > > > BroJack
> > > I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and > > > I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your > > > Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a > > > burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of > > > body odor.
> > > Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if > > > I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant > > > there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. > > > It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the > > > building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it > > > isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some > > > of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard > > > of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So > > > what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry > > > bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and > > > cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good > > > stuff.
> > There used to be a place in Black Canyon City that sold pies. I > > remember my > > parents taking me there a couple of times on road trips when I was a kid > > and > > we would stop for the best pies you can imagine. Right in the middle of > > Black Canyon City, which is a pretty place in the winter and nasty hot > > in > > the summer.
> > The Mexican resteraunt you describe is like so many in Arizona. Little > > family places that have killer salsa, and good bowls of red and green > > chili. > > One of my favorites used to be in Hayden, it was a place called Casa > > Rivera. Had a salsa bar and inexpensive dishes that were a combination > > of > > fire and unique flavors. Unfortunately it burned to the ground a couple > > of > > years ago. The Guayo's El Rey in Globe is another place for great > > Mexican > > food. Pinetop has the El Rancho which is pretty good. All little mom > > and > > pops.
> > Lately my wife and I have been going to these little taco carts in > > Tucson. > > Mexican immigrants from deep in Mexico make these amazing dishes. My > > favorite is the Sonoran hot dogs with bacon wrapped around the dog and > > then > > beans, guacamole, mustard, catsup, mayonnaise, salsa, and cheese are > > placed > > on top. Sounds bad, and it is bad for you, but the flavor is amazing.
> Those carts weren't around when I lived there, but they sound great! > Okay... now I am getting really hungry for some good Mexican food. :)
Good luck in your neck of the woods finding decent Mexican food. Anywhere outside the southwest doesn't have Mexican food worth paying for. Might as well make your own.
> Thanks for sharing that, Jack. I've been in all those places you > mentioned, brings back some really good memories. Hey... by chance did > you ever get to go to Jerome before it became a tourist spot?
Nah, that's way before my time. Been there once in my teen years, and looked through all the rock shops, etc. It was very touristy, but not as much as Sedona. In general I don't have much reason to go that way since it's in a part of the state that isn't easy to access from Whiteriver. To get to Jerome from Whiteriver probably takes over 6 hours.
> Donna
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On 30 May 2003 15:54:35 -0700, donn...@collinscom.net (Donna) wrote:
>>BroJack asked: >> What's fry bread? >It is fried bread, kinda like an elephant ear, but better if it's made >right. Here in Wyoming and South Dakota, you can even get fry bread >mix in the store (just add water, hahaha). People love it but don't >always know how to make it very well. If you are a good boy and start >giving up on the 'hate agenda' maybe I will send you some one day.
Don't put any armpit cumin spice in it.
Also, I don't like salsa.
Also, I don't like anything hot, like hot peppers.
>On 30 May 2003 15:54:35 -0700, donn...@collinscom.net (Donna) wrote:
>>>BroJack asked: >>> What's fry bread?
>>It is fried bread, kinda like an elephant ear, but better if it's made >>right. Here in Wyoming and South Dakota, you can even get fry bread >>mix in the store (just add water, hahaha). People love it but don't >>always know how to make it very well. If you are a good boy and start >>giving up on the 'hate agenda' maybe I will send you some one day.
>Don't put any armpit cumin spice in it.
>Also, I don't like salsa.
>Also, I don't like anything hot, like hot peppers.
Whoa...first the 'hate agenda' has to go before you can place an order.
If you're not in Donna's country, the easiest way to get fry bread is at a powwow when there's one near you at a public school or college. See http://powwows.com for a calendar. There are stands where you can buy fry bread dishes. I've had it 4 times this month. When piled high with other things, it sticks to your ribs - I had it in midday and skipped dinner. You have to leave the 'hate agenda' in the parking lot tho first, or your fry bread will turn out greasy.
>On Sat, 31 May 2003 12:14:09 GMT, broj...@windswept.org (brojack) >wrote:
>>On 30 May 2003 15:54:35 -0700, donn...@collinscom.net (Donna) wrote:
>>>>BroJack asked: >>>> What's fry bread?
>>>It is fried bread, kinda like an elephant ear, but better if it's made >>>right. Here in Wyoming and South Dakota, you can even get fry bread >>>mix in the store (just add water, hahaha). People love it but don't >>>always know how to make it very well. If you are a good boy and start >>>giving up on the 'hate agenda' maybe I will send you some one day.
>>Don't put any armpit cumin spice in it.
>>Also, I don't like salsa.
>>Also, I don't like anything hot, like hot peppers.
>Whoa...first the 'hate agenda' has to go before you can place an >order.
If having a hate agenda means that everybody should be treated the same, then I'll keep the agenda.
And just eat healthy whole grain bread which has minimum oils and fats.
On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:09:34 GMT, broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) wrote:
>If having a hate agenda means that everybody should be treated the >same, then I'll keep the agenda.
Now wait a minute...
You've said in the past that your big beef is when minorities get special treatment for apparently no other reason than non-white skin. Here you're saying just the opposite - that you have an issue with everyone being treated the same with no special benefits. What's it going to be? I'm confused.
>And just eat healthy whole grain bread which has minimum oils and >fats.
Fry bread does not appear to be super healthy by itself, although the "Indian Taco" for instance is good for you since it adds a big pile of salad fixins plus maybe some beans, meat, and/or cheese - all the food groups in one dish. The Indian Tacos I had recently were about 10" in diameter piled nearly 3" high - a days food in one shot.
On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:41:57 GMT, Sunsite <suns...@firetrick.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:09:34 GMT, broj...@windswept.org (BroJack) >wrote:
>>If having a hate agenda means that everybody should be treated the >>same, then I'll keep the agenda.
>Now wait a minute...
>You've said in the past that your big beef is when minorities get >special treatment for apparently no other reason than non-white skin. >Here you're saying just the opposite - that you have an issue with >everyone being treated the same with no special benefits. What's it >going to be? I'm confused.
Everyone should be treated the same; it should be a color-blind society, like Martin Luther King said. If that's a hate agenda, tough.
>>And just eat healthy whole grain bread which has minimum oils and >>fats.
>Fry bread does not appear to be super healthy by itself, although the >"Indian Taco" for instance is good for you since it adds a big pile of >salad fixins plus maybe some beans, meat, and/or cheese - all the food >groups in one dish. The Indian Tacos I had recently were about 10" in >diameter piled nearly 3" high - a days food in one shot.
Meat and cheese should be used sparingly, and only the low fat or non-fat varieties.
In article <aqphdvseu3fl1ml3g407or55bn4bgbg...@4ax.com>, Sunsite
<suns...@firetrick.net> writes: >Fry bread does not appear to be super healthy by itself, although the >"Indian Taco" for instance is good for you since it adds a big pile of >salad fixins plus maybe some beans, meat, and/or cheese - all the food >groups in one dish. The Indian Tacos I had recently were about 10" in >diameter piled nearly 3" high - a days food in one shot.
> In article <aqphdvseu3fl1ml3g407or55bn4bgbg...@4ax.com>, Sunsite > <suns...@firetrick.net> writes:
> >Fry bread does not appear to be super healthy by itself, although the > >"Indian Taco" for instance is good for you since it adds a big pile of > >salad fixins plus maybe some beans, meat, and/or cheese - all the food > >groups in one dish. The Indian Tacos I had recently were about 10" in > >diameter piled nearly 3" high - a days food in one shot.
> And possibly two days worth of calories!!! ;-D
This reminds me of when the IHS health officer back home got the great idea to start a public campaign to get people to make their frybread smaller. As you probably know the women back home take the size of their frybread very seriously and the campaign failed miserably.
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On 03 Jun 2003 04:05:25 GMT, an...@aol.com (Anuh1) wrote:
>And possibly two days worth of calories!!! ;-D
I bet, but it tasted real good. I liked it more than the high class expensive food we had for Mother's Day at a fancy joint on that same weekend. I wound up with 4 days calories in two days.
I love Mexican food, it is the only thing I know how to cook well, and I grew up on it in Arizona. Don't know where you've been eating your Mexican food, but I never once smelled stale armpits coming out of a burrito. And cumin... should be well combined and not remind one of body odor.
Tell ya what... in Arizona there is a place called... Black Canyon, if I recall... and a couple of guys used to have a shack/restaurant there... right smack dab in the desert a little while off the highway. It didn't have a name. The hand-painted sign on the side of the building just said: Food. Sometimes the place is there, sometimes it isn't. But every time I went through there hungry, there it was. Some of the food is Mexican and some of it is native stuff I never heard of, but all of it was delicious, and who cares what it was called. So what they do, these two brothers... see... is they take indian fry bread and pile it up with refried beans, chipped beef and peppers and cheese and tomatoes and homemade salsa and all kinds of other good stuff. Of course... you might have to share with a lizard or two because the windows don't have any glass, the curtains can't keep em out, and they just crawl right inside when the cooking is going on. Hanging out on the ledge there by your table. Soaking in some rays. So anyways... you go inside and at first it seems like no one is there because everything is really quiet, and really you are pretty much out in the middle of 'nowhere'. But that's only because the brothers already know you've arrived and they are back in the kitchen getting things fired up. Now at first you might feel a little uncomfortable because of all the good service. The minute you pull out a chair and sit down, those brothers are right there making sure you have everything you need. Water, napkins, coffee or tea, menu... you name it. If it's a hot day you get a whole pitcher of water on your table - and this is an area that doesn't see a lot of water coming down, if you know what I mean. So that water is kinda like gold when you're in the right frame of mind. Once you're all situated, you start hearing music. It must come from the kitchen. Sounds like it's coming from outside, but it couldn't be, so it must be the kitchen. Just a nice soft rhythmic sound with a slight melody behind it, like a flute... maybe. Or some other kind of wind instrument, who knows, I never did figure it out. Both brothers bring your food, and the one who cooks sorta hovers around for awhile. He is anxious to see that you like it. The plate is huge, and that fry bread is clear to the edge and piled with every fresh good thing you can imagine on a dish of Mexican food. You don't even notice until you've somehow managed to get through half your meal that the plate is handpainted and fired in a beautiful design of blue and coral. You forget about the lizards, or the fact that the brothers are standing off to the side watching you take each bite, questioning you with their eyes. After you've nodded and smiled a few times to let them know how wonderful it all is, you get a little 'lost' in the whole experience. Wherever you were an hour ago, you're in a whole 'nuther world now, Jack.
Don't know if that place is still there, but I've always given it a four star rating. :)