Screen Names
Primitive Jim
Take alt. native.
There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
divulge who they really are.
There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
screen names, like Carmen.
Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
sick game.
Welcome to the www world!
:-) JBT
jumpybird
knew who was watching? I wonder if they would get it.
jumpybird
Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:<3F3BA228...@softcom.net>...
Primitive Jim
jumpybird wrote:
> Do you think that it would make a difference to any of them if they
> knew who was watching? I wonder if they would get it.
> jumpybird
Glad "you" took notice Jumpybird!
By your posts I have noticed this whole thing is an issue with you as well.
Well, this is exactly why I never post my street name.
In my everyday life I am known far and wide as one who is always watching and listening closely.
I really make the half way house medicine men, the christian traditionals and the plaztek azteks
squirm.
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.
:-) JBT
Donna
Where you never know WHO you are talking to! I think I have talked to
myself on here before and not even bothered to use two different
names. :)But at least I was talking to my real self, haha. (I try not
to do this in public)
Donna
MIB529
emailed me a gay S&M pr0n textfile starring me as the "dom". I changed
computers and ISPs after that, and went anonymous.
Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:<3F3BA228...@softcom.net>...
Primitive Jim
Donna wrote:
Your not alone!
Primitive Jim
MIB529 wrote:
> I don't because I've gotten cyber-stalkers once before. One even
> emailed me a gay S&M pr0n textfile starring me as the "dom". I changed
> computers and ISPs after that, and went anonymous.
I have folks trying to virus me at least six to ten times a week.
Carmen has stalked me for years all over the www. She has unjustly slandered me far and wide.
There are people constantly trying to get into my computer files.
Then there was Jerk The Weakling, the Apache warrior, who we all fondly remember.
I am plagued by xtians constantly trying to retaliate.
However my e-mail address has never changed, nor have I ever used another address, since coming
to alt. native in 1997.
Sheesh!
Gringo
<clo...@softcom.net> wrote:
>However my e-mail address has never changed, nor have I ever used another address, since coming
>to alt. native in 1997.
Your address has surely been harvested a jillion times over by
spammers. I hope your ISP has a good filter. Mine does, but spam still
blows through by the ton.
Shunkmanitu Ska
knows me from the net. I don't hide behind phony screen names, I only use
the Lakota translation of my childhood name and my history and face are
pretty well
known.
As I was working a lady near my age ask me what "nationality" I was and I
told her
"Lakota" since that is the way Moma Lena raised me. She said she was
"Cherokee" and I mentioned that I also have Cherokee ancestors on one side
of the grandparents.
She then quickly mentioned that she had been raised in Arizona on a Pima Rez
and trained by a "Lakota Medicine Woman". This caught my attention because
there were few Lakota anywhere near we lived in and around the Salt River
and Gila River Reservations. I quickly passed her my E-mail and ask her to
please contact me. As you might guess I am always on the lookout for
someone from my past. I am lucky to have lots of photos and memories but
almost no contact with anyone from 40 to nearly 60 years ago. I know that
my baby sitters may well have passed by now and all of my Mom's generation
(and earlier) of family are gone. It has really left a big hole in my life.
Only when I later thought over what she said as she left did it occur to me
that she was possibly being less than truthful. Her parting statement was
that she was living down here and "Teaching the Creeks how to be Indian"! I
got the feeling that this was just a jab on the habit that Crow Dog and I
have of being less than tolerant of Pow Wows that charge $5.00 to get in and
"Indian" vendors selling plastic "tommy-hawks" and PVC bow and arrow sets.
We have also had run-ins since Raven must not wear shoes on Maka Wakan
(Sacred Earth) and most down here will not let him dance barefoot.
Anyway, if she is out here somewhere it would be much more productive to
come to me face to face without playing on soft spots to try to show me up.
I must admit, if this is what has happened then she should stick herself
another feather because I feel the sting of her "Coup Stick"!!
Shunkmanitu Ska
"Primitive Jim" <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message
news:3F3BF0F3...@softcom.net...
jumpybird
under-knowledgeable. But time and compassion cured that.
I find it sad that we spend so much time here fighting, deciding who
is real and who is not.( I say "we" because in my own Way I support
these actions by watching and saying nothing) I wonder how many "real"
people are afraid to speak or share, simply because they don't want to
bother.
Just my opinion
jumpybird
Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:<3F3BC44D...@softcom.net>...
Wolvbtch
>
>I don't because I've gotten cyber-stalkers once before. One even
>emailed me a gay S&M pr0n textfile starring me as the "dom". I changed
>computers and ISPs after that, and went anonymous.
oh my!!!!!
if i were to cast a role for you, it would NEVER be THAT!!!!! lol
conan the barbarian, maybe...lol...(j/k)
some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
http://hometown.aol.com/wolvbtch/index.html
Free Leonard Peltier
Wolvbtch
>
>There are people constantly trying to get into my computer files.
today, i installed mcafee firewall..i am amazed...
i can not figure out why someone would try to hack an old 70 year woman who is
isolated in the desert...
what do i have they want????
BravesHeart
>From: Primitive Jim clo...@softcom.net
There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
divulge who they really are.
WELL ITS 4 DAMN SURE U AINT 1 OF THOSE. ONLY THING "PROMINENT" ABOUT U IS YOUR
NASTY B.S.
Primitive Jim
jumpybird wrote:
> I must admit that I used to enjoy screwing with the plastics and the
> under-knowledgeable. But time and compassion cured that.
> I find it sad that we spend so much time here fighting, deciding who
> is real and who is not.( I say "we" because in my own Way I support
> these actions by watching and saying nothing) I wonder how many "real"
> people are afraid to speak or share, simply because they don't want to
> bother.
> Just my opinion
> jumpybird
A lot of the BS is so overwhelming, that why even start.
Primitive Jim
Shunkmanitu Ska wrote:
Good story!
Geeze I haven't heard Leonards name mentioned in a long time. I was beginning to
think he had passed over.
JBT
Primitive Jim
Wolvbtch wrote:
> >From: Primitive Jim
>
> >
> >There are people constantly trying to get into my computer files.
>
> today, i installed mcafee firewall..i am amazed...
> i can not figure out why someone would try to hack an old 70 year woman who is
> isolated in the desert...
> what do i have they want????
It's a strange workl!
JBT
Primitive Jim
BravesFart wrote:
I was talking about you TRAILER TRASH!
JBT
MIB529
> >From: man_in_black529
>
> >
> >I don't because I've gotten cyber-stalkers once before. One even
> >emailed me a gay S&M pr0n textfile starring me as the "dom". I changed
> >computers and ISPs after that, and went anonymous.
>
> oh my!!!!!
> if i were to cast a role for you, it would NEVER be THAT!!!!! lol
> conan the barbarian, maybe...lol...(j/k)
LOL What's the difference? LOL Stalkers usually cast the stalked
opposite themselves in pr0n textfiles. LOL
MIB529
> >From: Primitive Jim
>
> >
> >There are people constantly trying to get into my computer files.
>
> today, i installed mcafee firewall..i am amazed...
> i can not figure out why someone would try to hack an old 70 year woman who is
> isolated in the desert...
> what do i have they want????
A life, for one. This one show I saw described a cracker pretty well:
"He's probably a teenage otaku with smelly feet."
Wolvbtch
>
>LOL What's the difference? LOL Stalkers usually cast the stalked
>opposite themselves in pr0n textfiles. LOL
well...having not only never seen a pr0n textfile, let alone even hearing about
them until just these posts...lol...
no, i do NOT want to see one....
TearaGrianan
>From: jump...@hotmail.com (jumpybird)
>Date: 8/14/03 10:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3e3aff1b.03081...@posting.google.com>
writing to try to change focus of what questions I did ask so many here on
alt.native of Jim Bright Thunder aka Red Bear aka Anuh1 and Wolvbtch and/or aka
Apikaiki and I am not at all suprised they write like they do. Another gave
them up it was one person under the three and more screen names all assaulting
me in like style too.Nor am I surprised so many others do it in yahoo and
hotmail accounts.
MIB529 is a lying as usual!! Probably a disturbed messed up Catholic or raised
up one!! They lie like no one I ever heard of too. Christians and Mormons plan
it and practice and think they are so danged smooth. Wrong!! They are now
making excuses as to why they post like that.
Young non indian or old "woman" huh?? Wolvbtch and their Catholic Carib voodoo
and I think this whole forum is a Satanic Cult as equally as bad and damaging
to the mind as the Organized Religions who live in the darkness of the dark
ways and practices. Always scaring children about that "soul harvesting talk"
stuff. It is creepy and unnerving. My soul is not for sale either!! It is just
fine!! Simple and true to my faith.Personal and simple.I don't need organized
Religion of Marxism or Communism either!! It hurts human beings to even be
happy and joyous. We have seen it in the Cold War of the 1950's and 1960's
forward and in Russian and Cuba too. Once happy people now hungry and ill and
sorrowful to have to flee their own Countries. Cubans loved their homelands as
much as we as American Indians love ours and I also love Ireland too. It just
is the way it is too.It makes me feel happy thinking on Ireland and the beauty
and cultures I have long learned of and never been there to see for myself
except through TV and movies and books and stories and the Web Sites.The Circle
of life also of my family.Yes. I am proud to be a real Irish-Celt-Scots woman.I
also have English ancestry to.!! Always was happy to be a mixed blood and never
desired any other and my Mothers always instilled that pride in me too. But
they all knew I was indian too.You cannot change that either. I am a
Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne woman.I am the singing remembrance of the green and
blue and the wildness of the lands and Seas of my ancestors.I love Ireland and
I love America!! I am proud to be one of many of generations of born American
citizen. I am respectful of the American Flag too. As I was taught all my life
to be so.I am proud of the United Nations Assembly Nation's Country Flags as a
Member States and of our Treaty Nations Flags of the Tribes of North America
too. We are a huge Confederacy of Councils and relatives and Communities and
States too.
But maybe the conscience of these posters knows no hope either.So where are the
BOYZ from A.I.M who speak in their Web Sites about hope??? The words of Mr.
Birgil Kills Straight (Oglalla Lakota) about hope?? We are the substance and
the messages of that simple phrase? Of Cheif Sitting Bull of the Great Sioux
Nation (Huncpapa/Oglalla/Chippewa) .."Let us see what we can togther do to help
our children.All of our children"!! Where are they??? Showing what good things
they are doing in the absence of hate and race hate and their countin coup in
good ways of teaching and helping others understand us? Where is Mr Big Talking
Florida A.I.M Leader is the HOPE?? Don't go calling or crybaby running to
AIMGGC Council or Mr. Vernon Bellecourt Sr.either! He has some dang serious
explaining to do too!! Where are the equally BAD BOYZ of A.I.M leadership huh??
Dennis James Banks the accused Bigamist? Mr. Russell Charles Means the "Mr.
Hollywood Buffalo Butt A Rioting He Always Goes" huh?? Some leadership they
think they are!! Always whing about "Agent provacateurs"? Do they really make
their wives listen to that silly talk?? Or scaring me all the time makes them
warriors? Leaders?? Huh?
A.I.M Tribunals are illegal!! OPEN the COUNCIL DOORS in Council with the Feds
and States and our Federally Recognized Treaty Nations and Agencies is the only
wise Council now!! In the Confederacy Circle Hoops of the Nations!! The living
Hoops the Circle we are all working to preserve as tribe and family and Nation
and the United Nations!! As human beings first!!
Why have others lied and used begathons to help others yet the help or changes
never arrived to them they advertised for?? Oneida?? The story has changed and
lies are being told too by many.Why? Wolvbtch?? You are the one who posted
about the Oneida and your personal hatred of their Leadership? Why?? I watched
a well known respected name from Treaty and history used and changed and
misused and I am asking where is the money and the changes and why is the story
being used to get money and incite trouble?? Why? Wolvbtch?? Why now are you
silent about your for so long claimed ancestry???? Yet you and Apaikiaki and
Jim Bright Thunder/Anuh1/Red Bear dare to try to eliminate mine?? You shall not
succeed no matter how many you set against me either!! I am proud of my Irish
ancestry and I am a CHIPPEWA!!! A Northern Cheyenne!! Bear Totem Clans!!
Our Chippewa are also from the Pacific Northwest too!! Known for our assist in
Community and tribes and the U.S.Govt and States too. Why did you ask for money
and inciting the Christians into Oneida Nation of the Confederacy affairs??
What are the Wisconsion Oneida doing challenging the New York Confederacy on
Land and Religion?? I understand there is much more to the story than others on
alt.native are telling the truth about too.What are you and your assaultive
lying Wolf Pack Gang involved in that you need to lie and betray women???
I reject your angry violent Wolf Pack for all the right thinking reasons!! Your
defense of the huge money machine you now have been building that I challenged
about the exploitation by the support of Mr.Leonard Peltier too. You exploite
him like you have been doing to me also for years!! You and your buddies lure
and bait and taunt and hurt. For money and thefted identity!! I will never wear
the shame you try to put on me either. I refuse!! I reject your sick twisted
Religious minded darkness on any one who challenges you. You have only brute
force and violence to show your power against me and I will not cower from you
WOLVBTCH of the alt.native!! Nor will I surrender my life to your personal hate
and vindictive nature!!
I do not care what you think of me but I do care that I respect myself!!
Against all the ugly hurt you set against me and you know me well enough to
know I know a fraud when I come across one and I am the most real person you
ever were around!! I am not a Actress playing at life!! I live it!! Have a love
of it and always have. Till the monsters traumatized me and raped me for money
and revenge!! I have reclaimed my own humanity from it. My own values and
character I was taught even though in six homes before I graduated from High
School. You are the one who lied about your past too many times where you went
to "School" and you know it!! Lafemwolve!! Wolvbtch Running Wolf!! Nora
Christine!! You siced your hateful daughter on me and the USMC and U.S.Army
too.I reject your hate and plans to harm me too. You planned it all!! I am not
fooled by you or the others!! Cowards!! I have seen and heard and known how you
use children to hide behind too when you know I am on to your lying!! It is
criminal exploitation just like the THREE Defendents did too at Pine Ridge and
their other adult buddies did too. They sure had plenty of Lawyers huh?> Where
did the citizens get any real help unles they were then also exploited by the
WKIILDO and the LPDC for money huh?? Who was leading the Offices who profited
from their ongoing misery ?? A wise indian man brought it up in a large article
about the identity of the ones leading the fight too. How few were even indians
or even citizens. How many were ex Federal Felons too.The guns listed I simply
could not believe wriitten about in the "ITSOCH" by Mathiseen either. The now
acting innocent Lane Blue Thunder can just ask them all who were running the
illegal guns herself/himself the questions I was harrassed about and taunted
and they denied and lied about and the thefted writings they posted too!! I am
not Russian!! Nor am I Italian either!! Nor African American either.Read what I
read in the book and the LAPD and NYPD and Chicago and U.S.Govt Federal Agents
also knew who else was there at Pine Ridge, SD too!! The other Organized Crime
from other States inflicted more terror on the citizens of Pine Ridege too. It
is no secret as you all have told the story too.!! The truth was in the
:ITSOCH" too. The book that all said was the Bible of RESMURS. The
U.S.Commission on Civil Rights Reports numerous time published Reports on it
too.Why did the other Reports not be read by A.I.M and the U.S.Govt DOJ??
Where is the Retired U.S.Govt.F.B.I. and other Law Enforcement Agents huh? The
U.S.Congress? Willing to tell what happened and be willing to help us all
repair the damage together?Forgiveness? Reconciliation? Where is the "fidelity
and friendship and loyalty" of the Motto of the U.S.Federal Agents huh?? Damage
on and off Reserves and their admission of their part in it and the hurt they
inflicted? Conduct yourselves like Champions!!
Catholics confess and then their Priests and Ministers keep the secret. That
refusal to be willing to talk does nothing to help the citizens of Pine Ridge,
South Dakota or stop the years and years of misery deaths of my relations at
the Great Sioux Nation who are dying from the poison booze.Where is the Council
of Churches who also ignore it from the Criminal exploitation in White Clay,
Nebraska and the outragous ignoring it going on by the U.S.Govt and those same
now SAIC of the U.S.Govt.Federal Agents Retired who witnessed it first hand for
years!! Get those U.S.Govt.Gold Eagle Sheild Badges of Law Enforcement shined
up or throw them away if you dare try deny what was going on!!!. Still is going
on!! Federala nd International Laws on RICO Racketeering Statutes and Laws!!
Treaty!! Because by the gawds one way or another the real conscience of love
and hope will shut down the White Clay, Nebraska liquor establishments in
follow through legal jurisdiction together and any monetary damage will be sent
directly to the Office of the U.S.Govt of the DOJ and a letter firing him by
the Federally Recognized Treaty Nations for violation of Ft. Laramie Treaty!!
Two State Governors will be looking for jobs too if they don't look to the
damage and harm that ugly hurtful criminal exploitation is doing to my
relatives at the Great Sioux Nation!! Furthermore? The Paha Sapa the Sacred
Cathedral the Black Hills is not for sale!!! Ever!! No more desecration of our
Federally and the United Nations Assembly in Internationally Recognized Sacred
Cathedral the Black Hills!! No more!! The Paha Sapa the sacred of our Nations!!
Ft. Laramie Treaty stands in defense of it too. U.S.Constitution backs it!!
Ilegally logging and building and mineral theft and water and ground pollution
are destroying a sacred place of our Nations. A place of prayer and goodwill
and hope for us all as human beings. Stop harming it!!
The U.S.Govt in the insult and contempt of the U.S.Constitution by denying the
indian citizens their rights to speak of what hurts us.Civil and Human and
Religious freedom violations too. In absence of the Bible which swearing an
Oath on it by any U.S.Govt Official or Law Enforcement is a act of contempt of
the U.S.Constitution. No one is tryng to take your Churches or Religion but you
have to clean up the Churches policies and violations on our youngest victims
who so desperatly need champions to protect them against the abuse on children
and expolitation by the Laws you promise to uphold too. Hold fast your faith
and yet do not force by conversion by the Bible. Book of Mormon! Torah!!
Koran!! Any Religion to terrorize another for their beliefs if respecting
another's rights to do so. Or quit. But I am no quiter!!
Because I believe in the message of hope. That hope for A.I.M is the ones I
call out to. Show the best of who you are. Why it is called the American Indian
Movement and our mission is hope and helping and service to all Communities no
matter what religion or race or color or sexual identity ot disability or
mental health issues or politics. Show them what I believe you have in you the
best of who you all are to my thinking in what it is to be a real Champion!!
Leadership in the long remembered message of hope by our greatest Leaders and
Cheifs of the Nations. Council.. LongHouse!!. Circle!! Meetings!! In the Circle
Hoops of Nations our Country.....Show them all my relatives where we really do
care about one another no matter how far or close we are. Put the hurt aside
and serve us well as I really never could give up on you or the U.S.Govt
Federal Agents either. Lead together.
Because I am not a quiter and I believe in Council and hope!! Faith!! Even in
Prison Mr. Peltier is trying to be a good human being too. He was raised by
good human beings too. Dakota/Chippewa.But who taught him Marxism huh?
Nonesense!!
Ask for the help of the U.S.Military Vets of the VietNam War to speak on these
issues as our Ambassadors our friends and family. To speak of the message of
Peace and help others in their service to reclaim their honor and dignity at
the U.S.Military VA Hospitals. They need to know we care and at our Natioins
need Medical Centers too.We are the Nations who honor warriors no matter how
hurt and damaged another is.Talk in Communities!! Hospitals!! Nations!!
Congresses!! Leaders. Churches!! Schools!! Community Centers!! Nursing Homes!!
TV!! Radio!! Newspapers!! The message is the lessons regarding War and Peace!!
Contact "Veterans for Peace" on the Web Sites. Listen and read their stories.
POW's!! Vets!! MIA issues too.
Those who returned to VietNam to address issues of Peace and forgiveness and
reconciliation and helping them rebuild their Nation.Showing truly what it
means to be an American. The best of who we are. What matters most in hope and
faith. Compassion. Pity. Love in believing we are all truly related as human
beings first.
Give some respect and kindness to the U.S.President George W. Bush Jr. our
Commander in Cheif and encourage them instead in the Congresses to join one
another in Council and the United Nations a chance to help rebuild war torn
Iraq of the Middle East and then leave their Country to them to govern
themselves again.Bring our Soldiers home to their familes and our Community
again. That is what Democracy is about. We need Laws and defense but we need
Council in the United Nations Assemby as Member States to lead us too. Stop
inciting me to such upset to be yelling and crying too.Stop patronizing the
fear I feel to me I live with moment to moment.But I will not use booze to
anethisize it either. It is poison to us.
I still won't let you destroy my faith in Council.Humanity!! Humility!!
Forgiveness.Compassion!! Pity!! Hope!! For myself and others. My Country
America and our citizens.I don't hate anyone. I just hate the way others treat
me here.It makes me so sad and lonely and sorrowful too. But I believe in
hope!! Grace and compassion.The fundamental beliefs in faith.Simple and easy
and not propaganda but simple faith.We are all in this togther in this world we
call home.The Sky!! The Earth!! The Oceans!! The Rivers of Life to all
Nations!! A Circle of grace and beauty given us all called Paradise by many
Nations in their oldest languages. We must help one another live in it in grace
and beauty and blessings to our relations.
Together be wiling to feed the Nations and quench the thirst by sharing
knowledge and food and service of the world is the best of Diplomacy and
Ambassadorship and Guardianship and Stewardship I ever heard of. In any message
of any religion but the real message of faith when the children and women and
men of any Nation or Community of lands are hungry or thirsty.Homeless. When
race and religion mean nothing except for that plaintive cry of the child no
matter where in the world they are who is hungry or afriad. We must be willing
to give our concern and care to others in that message of hope. Our young
people to turn away from race hate and crimes to say they will be the
leadership some day. It frightens me as tv and movies and computer ganes
glorify violence and darkness and abuse to women by children.Abusing animals
and the mentally ill and disabled is not being a warrior or good to yourself
either. Put down the guns!! The weapons!!
The long thread of hateful attacks on myself just for asking who was the real
speakers here and as one lone poster as I only posted under one screen name
too.I have no need to play their sick sad dysfunctional group attacks.
I wil say that Carmenz30 or Carmen as they refer to themself posts a lot of
really valuable information about the New Zealand Moari peoples that I learn a
lot from their posts.Important information that helps me understand the issues
that the Chippewa also work with and address too. A lot I use in understanding
issues directly affecting women and the mentally ill and disabled too. I have
PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome)Most here have been told too and they
deliberatly attack me too. Jim has no excuse either. None!! No one who claims
any Military service from any War they were active combat or a Cop has any
excuse for deliberate attacks on anyone with PTSD!! The posters like the frauds
Jim/Anuh1/Red Bear and Wolvbtch derive sick pleasure in those group attacks.
Back each other yet dare to think I believe for one second they ever ever cared
about anyone's civil or human rights.I am not fooled by you at all.
I lived with and worked in a terrible controlling my whole life in a oppresive
work environment where race hate and abuse of women and minorities was rampant
in the work place.Had to listen to my ex as he told stories after work about
the meanness and abject cruelty they tried to excuse as pranks and jokes that
was still in the same workplace and he laughed at the cruelty and harrassment
and meaness of the wealthy people he admired.That same Company that once hired
me I used to admire and respect too. I stopped liking or respecting or caring
about them all as friends and as ex employers who dared to trangress on my
personal civil rights and taunt a American Indian woman and terrorize me for
their hypocracy and paychecks.Their hurtful hypocrite Organized Religions.Their
loss of their own humanity I believed they had for so long.I found out
different. They lied when they said they would always love and like me too.They
lied!! Long before he and I met and started seeing each other.They lied!!
Even their thinking I ever thought them kind in the attacks on my ex about his
weight and hurtful nicknames I refused to call him or respect his own family
for calling him that.Once I made a comment in the upset of a argument and I
stopped and quickly apologized. Then to be told by one of his close family
members after he got rid of me he lost a lot of weight and was really happy
again? I think some people should stay out of a couple's relationships till
they have one of their own to be lecturing and hurting another about when it
comes to marriages. There was much much more cruel and double dealing taunting
years later too. He was like that to sic his family and friends and employees
he worked with on me too. He thought I was too dumb to really know his ruthless
cruel nature used in the learned Jesuit and workplace soft aggressive passive
speech and how it was never well disguised. That finally I would get enough of
his stoopid shit I would start yelling and he planned it so others saw and
heard it and he had me watched continually the gangster!! Good!! I am glad the
whole neighborhoods (yes I meant Hoods) heard of the neighbors the Church
Ministers and Catholics and Church folks heard me yelling at him and telling
him to stop it!! I hope the Car Dealer so close to us heard it too!! The
perverts!! I hope they heard his threats and sinister talk and disrespect
toward a woman too!! But yes. Once I loved him very much.That disrespectful
dumb stoopid man knew I was IRISH and INDIAN and don't bother any of you trying
to lie or cover up his stupid behavior either!! Extortion and blackmail don't
work and I am not a slave nor a servant either!! Cause I am not putting up with
that stooopid behavior!! No!!
Any man ever knew me knew I was Indian and Irish!! I am proud of my Irish
ancestry and I ain't no Catholic or Protestant or a Wiccan Pagan either!! Make
me mad and you see the real temperment of the getting on my high Cheyenne Horse
Culture woman and the wild temperment of the Irish-Celt woman!! The whole Town
knows I am Irish and proud of it too!! I have yelled at Cops!! Military men!!
Ministers!! Preists!! Big Business..Mafia (don't like em and there is no excuse
for their criminal violent behavior either) !! U.S.Federal Law Enforcement
too!! Lie to me and try that fancy excusing it and I am on your butt to stop it
and think again I will tolerate it!! I usually end up decending into tears and
stop being mad very quickly but keep lying and I will not calm down.I am on the
lies being told again!! Don't you ever tell me who I can and cannot talk to
either!!
Who the heck are the people who think taunting about others body shape or
weight or illnesses or disabilities think they are in superior thinking about
others as human beings? It is not physical beauty that we should honor first
but as human beings first always.Taunt a woman about her weight? Shame on any
man who does it!! Or a woman in their snotty hurftful comments about anorexia
or bullimia either!! Shame on you all for saying nothing to those you see or
hear talking like that to hurt women or men or chidren like that. About glasses
or thining hair or baseball caps and why some wear them too. Many children who
are cancer victims wear them!! Human beings should be loved uncondionally no
matter what they look like or are in sexual identity. I do not chose anothers
ability to love nor did I ever tolerate withholding love but I don't like being
lied to if you ever needed a champion either. That is how I was raised up too.
But stop exploiting me!!
You would be amazed how much I do understand how others are treated who are
born who they are to live happily and not live in fear of dominant society the
usually hypocrites of Religion!! I know about the desire and happiness and joy
and need as a human being first to be loved and liked and have a loving
companion in life too. Don't even try to tell me homosexuality has beebn around
forever either. Just don'tt lie about it or let them decide your sexual idenity
if a child or adult comes to tell you. A woman a Mother or a Grandparent loves
unconditionally and a Father should ttoo.
Once I believed in it with all my heart but it was lost because others tore it
asunder and he let it happen!! He made his choice of another so be it. But
don't you dare lie about my life either!! I never ever in my life ever
apologized for loving another person ever!! And I ain't never gonna apologize
for fighting or loving or crying or trying to preserve that happiness and love
I believed in either!! It will not happen!!
Because once I loved him and I never took any attacks on him by others with
good grace or politeness. I could have cared if it was family or friends or
employees or his Big Busineses Bosses that did or a total stranger.But he
incited and exploited that too.For his personal and wealth benefit. I cared
more about him when we were poor than I did when he was a constantly
disatisfied wealthy controlling fool too. We use to have simple fun and laughed
too a lot. I just don't care anymore what they think of me either.Nor my family
because they were not there to help but to hurt me more. They exploited me too
for years.If I want another new relationship I will decide for myself and not a
group of hateful conniving exploiters!!
The Bosses that hired me knew you iritated me like that and mistreat me or
another preyed on in the workplace I would go tearing across that huge Car
Dealership or drive in from a Satellite Car Lot and I would give one warning
and then I was saying to them dirtect you tell them to stop that behavior where
I work. Now!! It was always a Professional working relationship that with some
I cared about as friends. But they all terrorized me and lied and I know them
real well. Best not iritate me anymore either. I will not take it either!! It
is over with them.Him and his gangster business!! But I should have jumped his
lying self in that CourtRoom the last time I saw him. He was free and looking
like he was so "Mr.Wonderful" was the Master Manipulative Gangster and me in
handcuffs and crying and terrified.He would have told what he did to me with
his ruthless Big Busines and buddies helping him or I would have taught him
that quick the real Irish --Chippewa/Cheyenne woman he traumatized and hurt so
bad with plenty of help. The fool that he always was anyhow!!
Keep him away from me too.He was never sorry either and he still drank and I
got sober!! I ain't his wife or friend or slave either!! I am done with that
ugly business!!
So many of our Tribes who reclaim their languages and cultures and yet work
with Agencies in Community and State and the U.S.Govt too. People working
together to make it a better world too for the next egenrations. We have our
responsibilities to others as indiginous peoples that we show them we care and
respect them too. refuse to participate in race hate crimes and hurt others who
are different than another. We do not speak like the conduct on this forum
among ourselves normally.
The very issues that affect so many indiginous peoples. Real issues. Health and
family and Community issues. About the devastating effects of alcoholism and
violence and young people involved in criminal activity. But also many good
things too about real things going on in Community of indiginous peoples.In
Communities and States and Country.
So...jumpybird another hotmail account trying to play games...You asked and I
told ya what I think in my opinion and experience...now I am done talking to
you all....this hateful bigot race hate crime newsgroup is a travestry of
decency and deviod of any honor or ethical behavior to all human beings by
those who lie and cheat and commit fraud....on one lone woman...
TearaGrianan....Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne IRISH./.American citizen....
Primitive Jim
TearaGrianan wrote:
> accounts..
Primitive Jim
Primitive Jim
Primitive Jim
Primitive Jim wrote:.
Primitive Jim
There's no conspiracy to get you.
You attack and others respond. It's just that simple.
Guess it fills your overwhelming need for attention?
Your ardent admirer JBT
Erik A. Mattila
while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
Erik
Primitive Jim
"Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
> Dang, Jim, your finger must have been spazzing-out on the "send button"
> while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
>
> Erik
Intentional Erik! Intentional.
Just having some fun with Donna Demento.
Keeps her off the streets reading her own dribble over and over and over.
:-)
Rick
> "Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
>
> > Dang, Jim, your finger must have been spazzing-out on the "send button"
> > while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
> >
> > Erik
>
> Intentional Erik! Intentional.
>
> Just having some fun with Donna Demento.
>
> Keeps her off the streets reading her own dribble over and over and over.
>
> :-)
>
I don't know, Jim.
If she is for real, maybe it's best to leave her alone.
Some people are trapped in their own world.
And it's not for me to point a finger and laugh.
Who is to say that my world is any better?
TearaGrianan
>Message-id: <3F3BA228...@softcom.net>
>
>The www is a unique phenomenon.
>
>Take alt. native.
>
>There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
>divulge who they really are.
>
>There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
>screen names, like Carmen.
>
>Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
>two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
>
>With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
>sick game.
>
>Welcome to the www world!
>
> :-) JBT
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here is one for you to contemplate.Two women and I knew one long before and I
was the other one who were wives of the two best buddies at the Car Dealer. We
then who both got mysteriously sick and she was hospitailized in and out and no
one could figure out what was wrong.I got assaulted by my ex for daring to tell
him what I thought of his conduct but perhaps as a woman can I instinctively
sensed something else was amiss. Her husband was the same man that had
assulted me in the workplace and the Bosses nor my ex who saw the big bruises
did a dang thing about it.No.They stayed buddies and he got promoted.He was the
cruelest Catholic I had seen in action in a long time.He thought cruel pranks
on minorities were funny. I was not laughing!!
Besides the friend of my ex who told me a story about Joseph who was Jesus's
father. He made me feel he was snarling at me and that old childhood feeling of
sick to my stomach came back and how slick and charming he said it as he told
me how ugly Joseph was. I used to really be happy to see him come to visit my
ex because I knew how happy it made my ex and because they grew up together and
really seemed to be really wonderful freinds. Till that day he had me cornered
in our office room and I never ever wanted to be around him again after that.
All Jesuits!!
You are not even qualified nor is MIB529 to be running off Psychiatric terms
about anyone. Cause I would report your abuse toward the mentally ill too!!!
Mental illness can occur at birth or organic or drug or alcohol or severe
trauma induced. I do not like the being kept a prisoner by primal fear induced
by the Jesuits and do not like it when my food is drugged by a monster and his
murderous intent helpers!! Nor should anyone else!! I may not be in the least
perfect but I stil have a healthy conscience compared to the ugly witchcraft
perpetrated against me by darkness seekers. No stars to guide them out either
They liked it. I don't!! Nor do I like or respect your conduct on these forums.
Now I am done talking to you!! Get some counciling!! I faced all the demons
you all called up to frighten me.Your burden is now lightened and mine is not
that heavy..Because I have compassion for others.Not bragging but my
understanding of the inherent nurturing nature of a woman doing her best to
help.In my own ways.I detest and am sickened by the symbol of Jesus the Holy
man tortured on the Christian Cross. It is sick and sad and dark and
sorrowful.No more....
TearaGrianan....Chippewa/Cheyenne....
Primitive Jim
Rick wrote:
Your new here aren't ya? She goes way out of her way "looking for trouble".
She slanders folks for no reason at all. I have protected her till my eyes cross
and she still turns on me like a snake.
:-)
Primitive Jim
Erik A. Mattila
>
> Rick wrote:
>
>
>>Primitive Jim wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dang, Jim, your finger must have been spazzing-out on the "send button"
>>>>while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
>>>>
>>>>Erik
>>>
>>>Intentional Erik! Intentional.
>>>
>>>Just having some fun with Donna Demento.
>>>
>>>Keeps her off the streets reading her own dribble over and over and over.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>
>> I don't know, Jim.
>>If she is for real, maybe it's best to leave her alone.
>>Some people are trapped in their own world.
>> And it's not for me to point a finger and laugh.
>> Who is to say that my world is any better?
>
>
> Your new here aren't ya? She goes way out of her way "looking for trouble".
New? Rick? Hmmm...if my guess is correct, you've just been
Comancherated. But I didn't recognize Charlie Cloud right-off, but now
I remember (I think). Las Luces de Las Cruzes shine bright at night.
eam
Rick
> Rick wrote:
>
> > Primitive Jim wrote:
> >
> > > "Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dang, Jim, your finger must have been spazzing-out on the "send button"
> > > > while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
> > > >
> > > > Erik
> > >
> > > Intentional Erik! Intentional.
> > >
> > > Just having some fun with Donna Demento.
> > >
> > > Keeps her off the streets reading her own dribble over and over and over.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> >
> > I don't know, Jim.
> > If she is for real, maybe it's best to leave her alone.
> > Some people are trapped in their own world.
> > And it's not for me to point a finger and laugh.
> > Who is to say that my world is any better?
>
> Your new here aren't ya?
Nope.
> She goes way out of her way "looking for trouble".
>
> She slanders folks for no reason at all. I have protected her till my eyes cross
> and she still turns on me like a snake.
>
> :-)
I knew someone like that in another newsgroup...
Ah, well. Carry on.
Or not...
It's your choice.
Everyone chooses the path they travel.
It's not for me to tell you how to walk it.
Dave
> i can not figure out why someone would try to hack an old 70 year woman who is
> isolated in the desert...
> what do i have they want????
>
Well, if you do any buying on-line, then they're probably looking for
credit card and/or checking account numbers that might be stored
somewhere on your computer.
A few weeks back, someone had the bright idea of hacking into people's
computer's, and setting it up so that people could down load porn from
that person's computer.
Then there are companies that have programs that look at your computer
for any info that might be of use them or other's. Like which web
sites you visit most often, seeing if you do alot of buying on the
internet, etc.
Lastly, there are those who like to break in for the the fun of it.
For those interested. There's a free firewall program called
ZoneAlarm that's pretty good at stopping people from breaking in. I
installed it on my computer and I haven't had any problems.
Primitive Jim
Rick wrote:
Since your not the one being attacked!!!!!!!
Especially how many times I went to her aid!!!!!!!!!!
JBT
jumpybird
unwillingness to use my real name bothers some people. THere is little
I can do to solve this problem. My reasons for doing this have
everything to do with my personal life nad little to do with this
place.
I am sorry to hear that all you find here is negative experience. It
seems that you are not alone in this.
I always found it intetesting that they called it the web (internet).
What better place for tricksters to live than in a web.
jumpybird
(just a person with a semi-worthless opinion)
tearag...@aol.com (TearaGrianan) wrote in message news:<20030815154055...@mb-m28.aol.com>...
> >Subject: Re: Screen Names
> >From: jump...@hotmail.com (jumpybird)
> >Date: 8/14/03 10:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <3e3aff1b.03081...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >Do you think that it would make a difference to any of them if they
> >knew who was watching? I wonder if they would get it.
> >jumpybird
> >
> >
> >Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message
> >news:<3F3BA228...@softcom.net>...
> >> The www is a unique phenomenon.
> >>
> >> Take alt. native.
> >>
> >> There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
> >> divulge who they really are.
> >>
> >> There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
> >> screen names, like Carmen.
> >>
> >> Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
> >> two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
> >>
> >> With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
> >> sick game.
> >>
> >> Welcome to the www world!
> >>
> >> :-) JBT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<SNIP>
MIB529
> >From: man_in_black529
>
> >
> >LOL What's the difference? LOL Stalkers usually cast the stalked
> >opposite themselves in pr0n textfiles. LOL
>
> well...having not only never seen a pr0n textfile, let alone even hearing about
> them until just these posts...lol...
> no, i do NOT want to see one....
pr0n = pornography (It's a pun on both typos and l33t5p33k)
textfile = plain text, .txt format
And, no, you DON'T want to see the porn on the Net. But here's a link
for all the loony sites, some of which are porn:
Shouldn't it be called Portal of Depression? Most of those sites are
just sad.
Wolvbtch
> It's your choice.
> Everyone chooses the path they travel.
> It's not for me to tell you how to walk it.
very true, rick, but when someone just attacks while you are just merrily
walking down down that path?
Wolvbtch
>
>A life, for one. This one show I saw described a cracker pretty well:
>"He's probably a teenage otaku with smelly feet."
the one that worried me just a wee bit was when i looked up the numbers on
whois database, it came out as the d.o.d....
thought for sure that in my old age, they would just figure me as no longer a
threat...
well...judging from the attacks i had here, maybe they do not...sigh...
Wolvbtch
>
>Shouldn't it be called Portal of Depression? Most of those sites are
>just sad.
ah, no thanks...
i don't anything more to depress me right now...
winter will soon be here, and i have so much to do, and cannot...
Joker & Harley at Arkham
MIB529 wrote:
>
> I don't because I've gotten cyber-stalkers once before. One even
> emailed me a gay S&M pr0n textfile starring me as the "dom". I changed
> computers and ISPs after that, and went anonymous.
>
I had a run in with a troll who was trying to control a newsgroup.
Within days I found that I had posted solicited for phone sex and/or a
master in several adult groups. I even received pics from some of the
doms.
I no longer have a phone under my real name. I haven't changed my email
because I'll be damned if I'll let a troll drive me away from a email
address I've had for 7+ years.
Harley
--
Boycott Starbucks
http://www.haidabuckscafe.com/
Reply to vyl at pacbell dot net
Rick
> >From: Rick gilrick
>
> > It's your choice.
> > Everyone chooses the path they travel.
> > It's not for me to tell you how to walk it.
>
> very true, rick, but when someone just attacks while you are just merrily
> walking down down that path?
>
Walking in Peace is one thing.
Being assaulted is another.
The Christian Bible says "If someone strikes you upon one cheek, turn unto
him the other." Doesn't say a thing against laying them out if they hit you
on the other cheek too...<G>
"Take no prisoners and never leave a live enemy behind you..."
I haven't *always* been a pacifist.
TearaGrianan
>From: Rick gil...@alltel.net
>Date: 8/15/03 5:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3F3D7A8F...@alltel.net>
them.I married three men all the same. Shame on me for forgetting my excellent
therapy I did go to on my own too.Many times over the years. I am not going to
stay but your one small act of kindness is appreciated.I don't like being
abused by Jim/Anuh1/Red Bear ( name search shocked me too) the multiple
personality psychopath.Wolvbtch is a sick predator.I know the "speak" of the
predator Jesuit. Active or raised in it.
I am not as weird as you may think. Nor as unhealthy in mind either. I have a
strong conscience. The old ones talked about the souless ones. They are on this
forum. I am not one of them. My soul is intact and doing ok. My conscience is
pretty fine too. The "Autumn Leaves" poetry gives you insight into many of
them.I never wrote poetry either. But I remember some who did and I will not
allow them near me. Ever again.I never sought to be famous but they in large
groups terrorized me for years so I stood up and defended myself against them
They came to my Community just like Pine Ridge and terrorized me and threatened
the lives of people who did not understand either.Nor cared to..I had no chance
of defeating it but I showed the real courage of the real ways of the American
Indian.We each stood our ground and did not run in the gang pack mentality. We
are different than other cultures.
Cheif Crazy Horse of the Oglalla did not like Americans.He and Cheif Sitting
Bull both knew the real nature of the Catholics.The symbol on the Cross of the
Holy Man called Jesus. He was shocked and saddened and disturbed and never
forgot that lesson they would do such a terrible thing to a Holy Man of any
Nation.
These posters hate Americans.So does Leonard Peltier who uses that name to
identify his battles.They exploited him too.
I am also of that ancestry of Cheif Crazy Horse. A woman.The Tribes control
the Treaty Trust of my ancestry. I am not real powerful really. I just was
asked to address the very serious issues that was the truth of why we are so
hurt and wounded but still are willing to help others. There are many things
others do not understand.They just are. Beyond Bible or Torah or Laws. I am a
good American. I am not like the others. A American Indian in the traditional
ways understands about the spiritual world and physical world of living.We do
not argue the existence of "God" as it is personal and rude and impolite to do
so. Always was.Thus many Judeo- Christians and Mormons think we are heathens.
Not true.That is why the Jesuits preyed on us.Attack us.In large numbers backed
by their Church they call Mother they hate.Why the Nuns are so poor. Is is
their sickness we have to see truly in them.Their corruption is no secret.
Erick Matilla must be a Umatilla huh???
Leave or stay but know if you have a conscience you will lose it.I am leaving.
Those few words you posted gave me hope. I thank you for that as one human
being to another.We will not speak again because of it.They hold a grudge too.
TearaGrianan.....Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne..Irish...American Indian
citizen..American citizen....Bands of Cheif Crazy Horse--Great Sioux Nation of
the Ft. Laramie....National Congress of American Indians...
Erik A. Mattila
Wolvbtch wrote:
>>From: man_in_black529
>
>
>>A life, for one. This one show I saw described a cracker pretty well:
>>"He's probably a teenage otaku with smelly feet."
>
>
> the one that worried me just a wee bit was when i looked up the numbers on
> whois database, it came out as the d.o.d....
> thought for sure that in my old age, they would just figure me as no longer a
> threat...
> well...judging from the attacks i had here, maybe they do not...sigh...
Snoring Eagle Ashcroft has you classified as an "enema combatant."
eam
Rick
Safe Journey to you.
Rick.
Rick
> Primitive Jim wrote:
> >
> > Rick wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Primitive Jim wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Dang, Jim, your finger must have been spazzing-out on the "send button"
> >>>>while you were yawning - I'm seeing three or four copies of your post here.
> >>>>
> >>>>Erik
> >>>
> >>>Intentional Erik! Intentional.
> >>>
> >>>Just having some fun with Donna Demento.
> >>>
> >>>Keeps her off the streets reading her own dribble over and over and over.
> >>>
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't know, Jim.
> >>If she is for real, maybe it's best to leave her alone.
> >>Some people are trapped in their own world.
> >> And it's not for me to point a finger and laugh.
> >> Who is to say that my world is any better?
> >
> >
> > Your new here aren't ya? She goes way out of her way "looking for trouble".
>
> New? Rick? Hmmm...if my guess is correct, you've just been
> Comancherated. But I didn't recognize Charlie Cloud right-off, but now
> I remember (I think). Las Luces de Las Cruzes shine bright at night.
>
> eam
Did I make it into the top ten percentile?
There is SO much pressure to succeed! It looks good on your resume if you score high.
I've always posted as "Rick" cause that's my name. The user ID changed and I posted
about that too. I've never tried to post anywhere under "false colors", as it were.
It's no secret who I am. Some folks here may remember my postings over the years. Not
that the posts were all that memorable...
I'm very seldom serious.
I'm also irreverent, irreligious, irrepressible and sometimes downright
irresponsible <G>
But I don't mean anyone any harm.
Erik A. Mattila
I hope you don't think that I was dissing you, Rick. I wasn't. I was
just thinking that you were the same Rick de Tejas that I remember a few
years back - I think your ironic humor struck a memory nerve in my haid.
I'm just not a hundred percent sure, so I guess I was fishing a bit.
Erik
>
>
>
Rick
Nope. I'm from Georgia.
No offense taken.
You are very polite.
Most folks describe my sense of humour as "smarta**!" ;-)
Nane
"TearaGrianan"
> Cheif Crazy Horse of the Oglalla did not like Americans.He and Cheif
Sitting > Bull both knew the real nature of the Catholics.The symbol on the
Cross of
the > Holy Man called Jesus. He was shocked and saddened and disturbed and
never
> forgot that lesson they would do such a terrible thing to a Holy Man of
any > Nation.
Till now I canæ„’ understand why the church chose such a symbol.
The cross is an instrument of torture. Each time if I see a cross
with Jesus on it, I惴 thinking: "Jeeeeeeeezus! how can they do that?"
I惴 sure, if a "second Jesus" would be here on Earth, the humans
would kill him again or sticking him into a laboratory.
Nane
> Cheif Crazy Horse of the Oglalla did not like Americans.He and Cheif
Sitting > Bull both knew the real nature of the Catholics.The symbol on the
Cross of
the > Holy Man called Jesus. He was shocked and saddened and disturbed and
never
> forgot that lesson they would do such a terrible thing to a Holy Man of
any > Nation.
Till now I canæ„’ understand why the church chose such a symbol.
Wolvbtch
>
>Snoring Eagle Ashcroft has you classified as an "enema combatant."
>
>eam
oh my!!!!!
now you get over here and clean up my monitor!!!!
whadda visual at this hour in the morning...
hehehehehe
Primitive Jim
Wolvbtch wrote:
> >From: Rick gilrick
>
> > It's your choice.
> > Everyone chooses the path they travel.
> > It's not for me to tell you how to walk it.
>
> very true, rick, but when someone just attacks while you are just merrily
> walking down down that path?
I really don't mind the attacks as much as the blatant slandering.
Even with the slandering I have been exceedingly kind to her.
As everyone else does, I realize she is just desperate for attention when she
says " you guys quit picking on me". She wishes!
:-)
Lridge164
(TearaGrianan) writes:
>Leave or stay but know if you have a conscience you will lose it.I am
>leaving.
>
>Those few words you posted gave me hope. I thank you for that as one human
>being to another.We will not speak again because of it.They hold a grudge
>too.
>
>TearaGrianan.....Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne..Irish...American Indian
>citizen..American citizen....Bands of Cheif Crazy Horse--Great Sioux Nation
>of
>the Ft. Laramie....National Congress of American Indians...
>
>
i caint speak fer da regulars on dis heah board
but i doubt anyone will hold a grudge aginst rick gilrick
fer havin' a few kind words to say
as he seems like a stand-up guy
who voices his convictions
Kip King
> The www is a unique phenomenon.
>
> Take alt. native.
>
> There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
> divulge who they really are.
>
> There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
> screen names, like Carmen.
>
> Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
> two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
>
> With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
> sick game.
>
> Welcome to the www world!
>
> :-) JBT
Some of us use our own names, Carter Camp, myself and a few others.
I've noticed that Cater and myself rarely post anymore though.
Wolvbtch
>
>I really don't mind the attacks as much as the blatant slandering.
>
this is so true...
she has posted libel of me ever since she has been online...
she knows nothing about me, and the lies get deeper...
that one only likes to start fights, attacks and then, when people respond,
whines about it...
she likes the attention, and negative attention is better than none...
and god help anyone who treats her decently, for then she will certainly attack
viciously...
no warrior mentality that one...
ah, but according to her friend, she is an "actual indian"...hehehehe
i am not surprised he did not know one when he came across one...
to use her words, she is just a whiney titmousebaby...lol...
i DID like THAT one...hehehehe..
and use it occasionally in real life...
MIB529
> >From: man_in_black529
>
> >
> >Shouldn't it be called Portal of Depression? Most of those sites are
> >just sad.
>
> ah, no thanks...
> i don't anything more to depress me right now...
> winter will soon be here, and i have so much to do, and cannot...
It's intended for people to make fun of them. net.loons, fanboys, and
hentai all get lampooned.
MIB529
> >From: man_in_black529
>
> >
> >A life, for one. This one show I saw described a cracker pretty well:
> >"He's probably a teenage otaku with smelly feet."
>
> the one that worried me just a wee bit was when i looked up the numbers on
> whois database, it came out as the d.o.d....
> thought for sure that in my old age, they would just figure me as no longer a
> threat...
> well...judging from the attacks i had here, maybe they do not...sigh...
One thing I do is keep my most vital data on floppy disks. I can then
run FDISK if a darkside hacker actually gets through: My hard drive is
"formatted" (We all know what the "F" really stands for, though.), and
all my real data are on floppy disks.
Another trick you can do, keep a magnet nearby (but far enough away so
that it doesn't affect your system). If George bin-George's men come
by, you can quickly apply a magnet to any incriminating data.
TearaGrianan
>From: wod...@cox.net (Kip King)
>Date: 8/17/03 9:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <cbfe67b5.03081...@posting.google.com>
MARXIST!! Maybe he should mend his wrong thinking ways and get back to
Traditional Ponca indian stories instead of Shakespeare huh??? Geesh maybe
Ishgooda "Ishgooda's Home Page" can explain the "Nurse Sue" VeldKamp and the
California connection huh??? "Tuesday Weld".Or Jim Bright Thunder and the cork
boot wearing Tree Spikers!!! MAFIA!! New York!! Ish --gooooda Cheese claims
Huron/Wendat of Kansas too. Hmmmmmmmmm
Disrespects the American Flag yet claims was a " U.S.Army Nurse" during the
VietNam Era too. Funny though uses Chippewa of Minneosota obits on their Web
Site too. Never ever claimed Chippewa though ever. German/Scots ancestry Bobcat
and Ish are Running German Wolves too!!
You don't help the Vets by terrorizing me either. I have a lot of excellent
ideas to get them help and the homeless and disabled too but no one seems to
really care either.
You sure siced a lot of your buddies on me too and laughed at my tears and pain
too.Yet you expect me to understand your illness huh?? I was never ever mean to
you about your physical illness either and you know it too!! You don't gang
attack a person who stood for their opinions. There is no such Tribe as the
Haudenoshawnee either!! It was a lie and stil is.
RESMURS Investigations documented many of the players in A.I.M too. Still
active.Red Bear huh?? Which "Red Book"? The "Communist Manifesto"? I never read
that book and have no interest in doing so either. Nonesense for any American
Indian to ever even accept it either.
If Carter "Camp" teaches young people to hate Cops and call them hurtful names
and teach disrespect? Does he expect them to respect our young people when they
are involved in criminal behavior? I have relatives at the Great Sioux Nation I
have never met.Denied my own Grandparents and all my life.Aunties and Uncles of
the Lakota.Dakota. Rosebud!!.Ponca !! Omaha!! I love the Chippewa!!
Chippewa-Cree!! Little Cree the Cheyenne Nations!! You don't anyof you set me
against my own relations of the Great Sioux Nation ever!! Hide it and conspire
to harm me.Three generations in one sentence stolen from a little child never
leaves the terror and greif of your heart either. The cruety in which it was
done.
So you might help to get this message to Carter Camp aka Kemp about
Conspiracy!!
I don't care his personal politics but by the gawds you ain't going to
terrorize me as a lone dissenter woman either!! The U.S.Military Vets need our
help and medical attention and Medical Centers and Out Reach Center for the
American Indian Vets near them and not be denied their benefits.Plus drug and
alcohol and PTSD Counciling too. He can help or continue to hate. I refuse!! I
ain't his "bitch" either!!
READ~~~~~ >>>>
Definition by Law of the U.S.Federal Govt."Conspiracy= The combination or
confederacy between two or more persons formed for the purpose of commiting by
their joint efforts some unlawful or criminal acts,or some act which is lawful
in itself ,becomes unlawful when done by concerted action of the conspirator,
or for the purpose of using criminal or unlawful means to the comission of a
act not in itself lawful. A person is guilt of conspiracy with another person
or persons to comit a crime if with the purpose of promoting or facilitating
its comission he (a) agrees with such other person or persons they or one or
more of them will engage in conduct
which constitutes such crime:or an attempt or solicitation to comitt such or
(b) agrees to aid such other person or persons in the planning or commision of
such crime or of an attempt or solicitation to comit such crime.A conspiracy
may be a continuing one :actors may drop out and others drop in:the details of
operation may change from time to time :the members need not know each other or
the part played by others, a member need not know all the details of the plan
or operatio, he must,however,know the purpose of the conspiracy and agree to
become a party to a plan to effectuate that purpose".
There are a number of Federal Statutes prohibiting specific types of
conspiracy.
See:Chain conspracy.
Civil Conspiracy:The essence of a "civil conspiracy" is a concert or
combination to defraud or cause other injury to person or property,which
results in damage to the person or property of plaintiff.
Overthrow of Government
Seditions conspiracy
See further definitions.Page 214.
"Black's Law Dictionary".by Henry Campbell Black,M.A. West Publishing ,Co.
St.Paul ,Minnesota. 1991.
Understand and either stop fighting the system and help me work with it or be
BUSTED!!
TearaGrianan...member Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne.. Irish ....NCAI!! NICWA Laws
Recognized Speaker!! U.S.citizen.
TearaGrianan
>From: man_in_...@yahoo.com (MIB529)
>Date: 8/17/03 11:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <4ad78f65.03081...@posting.google.com>
>
>wolv...@aol.comnospam (Wolvbtch) wrote in message
>news:<20030816162719...@mb-m06.aol.com>...
>> >From: man_in_black529
>>
>> >
>> >A life, for one. This one show I saw described a cracker pretty well:
>> >"He's probably a teenage otaku with smelly feet."
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
off the computer I have done in a long time!!!
I never copied the rest of your note cause I ain't that computer smart nor am I
am that mean either. But I am fed up with my computer being messed with. For
really simple reasons too. And I can't afford a new computer either or figure
out how to fix mine to just enjoy the non violent computer games. This
alt.native is no game and I am terrified. I don't care what you think of me
either. Your mean to me all the time.
A Gemini? A confused Scientist who lost a spiritual part of being a Lakota...
A gangster with a FreeMasons Bible and the swearing an Oath on the Rule of Law
the U.S.Constitution is a Gemini conduct!! Or a C.I.A. Agent or not but a
acting a gangster who parties with women with a lampshade on his confused
Gemini self and usual silly head!! Or a Repub appointed (not voted on)
Christian Fundamentalist a U.S.Govt DOJ AG who prays on taxpayers time and the
U.S.Supreme Court says nothing!! "Time Magazine"!! THAT is the "Dom" you silly.
Yeeeaaaahhh. I have known a confused Gemini...geesh...one side covers up the
fibbing by the other side too...grrrrrrrr
TearaGrianan.... First Council Parliment at Tara--Ireland...a Chippewa/Northern
Cheyenne...U.S.citizen...
Rick
Thank you for the compliment, Lridge.
Wolvbtch
>The Christian Bible says "If someone strikes you upon one cheek, turn unto
>him the other." Doesn't say a thing against laying them out if they hit you
>on the other cheek too...<G>
i am not xtian, but even i run out of cheeks to turn...lol...
and that is the case with this particular person...
Wolvbtch
> net.loons, fanboys, and
>hentai
i don't know what any of those are...
a little out of my generation, i think...lol...
Erik A. Mattila
Yeah, too bad, too, Kip. But I see you're lurking. That's a positive sign.
Erik
Primitive Jim
Wolvbtch wrote:
> >From: Primitive Jim
>
> >
> >I really don't mind the attacks as much as the blatant slandering.
> >
>
> this is so true...
> she has posted libel of me ever since she has been online...
> she knows nothing about me, and the lies get deeper...
> that one only likes to start fights, attacks and then, when people respond,
> whines about it...
He, she or it curses for a fight and when all I do is say " give us a break" she
yells all of you, stop picking on me.
She is almost as bad as Carmen. But not quite.
Carmen and Jerk The Weakling tie for bottom feeder of the century
:-)
Primitive Jim
Lridge164 wrote:
He can be her knight in shining armor. :-)
Carmen can also use a man!!! :-)
Heaven knows I have tried in the past, only to be forgotten a week later in her
haze of delusion
:-)
Primitive Jim
Kip King wrote:
Yes and there are many more!
Some drop by and get fed up in a week at most.
Especially when their attacked for no reason at all by a wing nut!
:-)
Primitive Jim
TearaGrianan wrote:
Yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> .
Primitive Jim
"Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
Kip is not alone, I get personal e-mail responses to threads posted here all the time, by folks
who just don't need the nonsense.
Got three already today.
Rick
I'm already a Knight.
The armour, however, is dented and rusted...
Erik A. Mattila
That's good. But I know what you mean: one good friend I have in Pit
River, JR, told me after I was pestering him for a long time about going
to the tribal council meetings, "Goddammit, Erik, I'd rather fight than
argue!"
Erik
>
>
TearaGrianan
>From: Primitive Jim clo...@softcom.net
>Date: 8/17/03 8:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3F4041F5...@softcom.net>
>
>He can be her knight in shining armor. :-)
>
>Carmen can also use a man!!! :-)
>
>Heaven knows I have tried in the past, only to be forgotten a week later in
>her
>haze of delusion
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
JBT, you and Carmen have your real serious personal problems.I don't like the
intimidating bullish way you treat Carmen either.Has nothing to do with me.I
don't like the way you talk to Carmen either. She is not willing to take your
abuse either. I detest the way you use race hate and abuse toward the mentally
ill with your long repetroire of "hurtful slogans". I did not like it on any
Law Enforcement forum either. Nor will I sit and not say anything. I have a
expectation they are better than that.We as citzens expect it and they will
have to respect that too. We have a responsibility to show respect for them and
their jobs too.Fact!!
I won't take it from U.S.Govt Federal Law Enforcement either I hear them
talking that race hate and disrespecting their U.S.Federal Agent Gold Sheild
Badges to our citizens? I am on the phone and telling them to stop that
behavior.Cops who assault and exploite women behind closed doors are the lowest
kind of gangsters in my thinking!! When other Cops cover them doing it they are
all no good or trustworthy to us as citizens., They need counciling and family
Counciling too.Suspend their Badges or fire them.I have been lied about and
exploited by Cops so don't kid yourself!! Don't hide behind the Bible either
cause I will throw "Black's Law Dictionary" book back at ya!! U.S.Constitution
and Treaty!!
I have no intentions of being a hypocrite and as you pretend to be nice and
then you attack me in note after note to a bunch of screen names.They attack me
and elude to me then intimate slander.?? After their long track records in
launching attacks with Gangs in the 100's on some issues? Not a chance I will
back down.I am a Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne and I am a Irishwoman!! I am a good
American and you don't talk about my Country like that and I sit and remain
silent.Won't vote or respect the American Flag and whine all the time. Don't
want to Council and it is more race hate than I can even stand most days.But
still I read it all and reasearch and think and then I write. Ya theft it and
never even say thank you for caring enough to consider or care or spend all
your life caring about our concerns. I write and then you attack me and call me
hurtful names?
I ain't your "bitch" of any race either you disrespectful control freak!! How
dare you even try it!! The way you talk you probably clank with guns when you
walk and they are probably illegal!!
Why you bunch of crybabies!! Your talking most of you is the worst behavior of
the white supremacists and those ignorant race hating using the Bible a Holy
Book to excuse that hurtful hateful behavior Militia groups!!! That is not what
Jesus the Holy Man meant either!!! The thinly disguised race hate of the
violent African Americans who hate everyone when they start in. Don't you ever
use the word A-rap-a-ho like you did to insult me Mr. JBT!! I read real clear
what you really meant you bigoted gangster!! Nor do I have any patience with
Mexican-Americans being exploited either.
I don't think I have ever ever witnesed such "street slang" of poorly raised up
people in many many years. It was like the daily conduct in the Car Dealer too.
Managers throwing furniture and phones and screaming at us.Single women who had
families who were reduced to tears and no paycheck and terrified of them. So
off I would go to the Big Bosses. I would march in and tear up the Bosses and
the Managers and tell them to stop it.But there is a part of me that will
always care about them too. For reasons I ain't going to explain.But they dared
to terrorize me for years after I quit. I don't work for them and I ain't
taking that. Must make them feel like big men to be scaring me still and
destoying a life of a woman who was once their friend and hard working
employee.
I said don't even try it you will find I fight back!! The whole Big Business
Car/Truck Dealers knew and smaller Lots and the Major Manufacturers Car Lots in
Town knew I was Indian and Irish too and a Ex Bartender and a Special Field
Investigator recruited by the U.S.Govt Secret Service Senior Agents too.For the
record? I worked for an Italian and he was the nicest person I had met in years
and years. He was so good at his years of experience in investigations too but
he was a stinker too.But his buddies exploiting him got him in trouble too.I
tried to intervene to save his dumb butt too. Then they all came after me. Why
the nerve!! They sure all found out I am a hard woman to kill too. Gangsters!!
It was in such frightening abuse I would go to the Bosses who hired me and quit
or say I am leaving because I won't tolerate that kind of abuse and get mad and
leave.Then the calls would start in whining...we need you....we are not selling
any Cars or Trucks...please we need you. You try working two weeks in long long
hours and not even a lunch break with no day off for straight commission.!!
Forced to go to the brainwashing mind bending Schools.I was doing hard drinking
then too. I am not proud of that but I got sober too. I am and was a natural at
sales when I believed in the Product I was selling. The U.S.Govt .Federal
Agents and Cops and Professional drivers and Pro Race Cars drivers taught me
how to drive too. The indians and all people are not a Product but human beings
so don't even think otherwise. But no vacations allowed.I worked in the hot sun
and pouring rain and snow and ice and worked hard too. I did not cheat the
Bosses or slack off in my responsibilites to care for securing our vehicles in
lock up either. Lots of men did and laughed as they tried being slick. I was
not impressed. I had to work 4 times as hard to learn and work well among the
men too. No paycheck if you don't sell a vehicle. Men who were mean and selfish
and stealing half your deals and their redneck bs talk about minorities. I
heard all the hurtful names you can call a human being and the disgusting
disrespect they call women and worse.It was not anything sexual really that I
ever took much offense at in that because I had worked in the Bar Business and
I knew how to handle myself well. Cops knew it too. I would cut them off and
not bat an eye they acted stoopid.and throw out Managers of they started a
fight in their own Bar. My job was to protect his liquor and Resturant license
and I took it real serious. My job was to protect the Dealers license. But I
know how to pull it too. Legally.They owe me a public apology and by the Bosses
and my ex does too for a gd fact but I will not be alone in a room with him
either.He always bring dangerous company. I won't be bullied by him or the
U.S.Govt.F.B.I. either again.Nor A.I.M either.They know what a Treaty is
too!!!. They best consider it fast!! Don't you iritate me again.Your
intimidation against the mentally ill and race hate upsets my stomach too.Stop
it!!
TearaGrianan....Chippewa/Northern Cheyenne..Irish!! U.S.citzen!!
Kip King
> Kip King wrote:
> > Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:<3F3BA228...@softcom.net>...
> >
> >>The www is a unique phenomenon.
> >>
> >>Take alt. native.
> >>
> >>There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
> >>divulge who they really are.
> >>
> >>There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
> >>screen names, like Carmen.
> >>
> >>Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
> >>two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
> >>
> >>With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
> >>sick game.
> >>
> >>Welcome to the www world!
> >>
> >> :-) JBT
> >
> >
> > Some of us use our own names, Carter Camp, myself and a few others.
>
> Yeah, too bad, too, Kip. But I see you're lurking. That's a positive sign.
>
> Erik
Yeah Erik, still lurking from time to time.
Primitive Jim
Rick wrote:
Tell me about it, I'm 70.
Primitive Jim
TearaGrianan wrote:
Yawn!!!!!!!!!
Primitive Jim
Carmen wrote:
> "TearaGrianan" <tearag...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030818021708...@mb-m11.aol.com...
> > >Subject: Re: Screen Names
> > >From: Primitive Jim clo...@softcom.net
> > >Date: 8/17/03 8:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >Message-id: <3F4041F5...@softcom.net>
> > >
> >
> > >He can be her knight in shining armor. :-)
> > >
> > >Carmen can also use a man!!! :-)
> > >
> > >Heaven knows I have tried in the past, only to be forgotten a week later
> in
> > >her
> > >haze of delusion
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > JBT, you and Carmen have your real serious personal problems.I don't like
> the
> > intimidating bullish way you treat Carmen either.Has nothing to do with
> me.I
> > don't like the way you talk to Carmen either. She is not willing to take
> your
> > abuse either.
>
> Aint that the truth,
> but fear not !
> I have the afore mentioned offender in lock down
> in my e-jail, on block sender.
>
> I happened to read a post by other deliquents who replied to the offender's
> message and I see he thinks I been stalking him 'all over the net'
> Ha ! in his dreams.
> I been busy having a nice time elsewhere
> with lovely people.
>
> There that'll drive him even more nutty
> (than he already is) with envy
> :)
Stuff it Carmen!!!!!!!!!!
Primitive Jim
"Erik A. Mattila" wrote:
I like the old Irish saying, " is this a private fight, or can anyone get into it" :-)
>
>
> >
> >
Kip King
> Kip King wrote:
>
> > Primitive Jim <clo...@softcom.net> wrote in message news:<3F3BA228...@softcom.net>...
> > > The www is a unique phenomenon.
> > >
> > > Take alt. native.
> > >
> > > There are some rather prominent ndn's posting here that don't dare
> > > divulge who they really are.
> > >
> > > There are folks coming here who mess over us using several simultaneous
> > > screen names, like Carmen.
> > >
> > > Heck there are even folks coming here and posting under two names, from
> > > two addresses, who talk to their own selves.
> > >
> > > With some mentally ill folks and we sure have our share, it's all a real
> > > sick game.
> > >
> > > Welcome to the www world!
> > >
> > > :-) JBT
> >
> > Some of us use our own names, Carter Camp, myself and a few others.
>
> Yes and there are many more!
>
> Some drop by and get fed up in a week at most.
>
> Especially when their attacked for no reason at all by a wing nut!
>
> :-)
Yeah, I've noticed that Wade Wofford also isn't around much anymore.
Primitive Jim
Kip King wrote:
And so many many more.
Take Jimmie, he works so hard for positives and unity in his personal life, that when he checks in
here, he gets overwhelmed with the nonsense.
Same with Carter Camp.
The only reason I have any longevity is because I separate my street name and life from my screen
name and news group rhetoric. It would be all but impossible to reconcile the two.
I'll bitch and moan here, where on the street I must be more politically correct.
One interesting thing is that on the street no one like Donna or Carmen slanders me. Cyber space
breeds keyboard bullies aka cowards.
:-) JBT
Rick
I am a sprightly 53.
Ok. Not sprightly...
But I *used* to be sprightly.
Once upon a time.... loooong ago.
I could probably be sprightly again....
But it would hurt like hell the next day!! <G>
They used to tell us in Marine Corps Boot Camp "Pain is Good!"
I'd already made up my mind that those folks were crazy. That just confirmed it.
Primitive Jim
Rick wrote:
Just this morning I was reflecting back on my early fifties and wishing I had that
kind of physical strength once again. The Marines has a way of making pain a part of
every day life. I got out in 54, but still remember the pain like it was just
yesterday. Don't know about you but when I was in, duck walking and running the
troops off of a cliff was real popular with the sergeants. Got what's left of my
knees to prove it. Double ouch!
:-) JBT
Rick
'77.
Oh, they still LOVE duck walking...especially in the rain.
YOU're Corps, MY Corps, MARINE Corps, OOORAH!
Semper Fi, Dude!
Primitive Jim
Rick wrote:
Stop, I'm doing my best to forget!
:-)
Rick
Oh, it wasn't all fun and games. But I'll never forget. Once a Marine...
Kip King
True. Because I use my real name, I don't say anything that I wouldn't in person.
MIB529
> >From: man_in_black529
>
> > net.loons, fanboys, and
> >hentai
>
> i don't know what any of those are...
> a little out of my generation, i think...lol...
net.loon = insanity on the net, usually in the form of conspiracy
theories and/or long-discredited pseudoscience
fanboys = someone obsessed with a pop culture icon
hentai = pornography (It's Japanese for pervert.)
There are other miscellaneous types on POE. For example, a lecture on
C++ starring mu-pee the microprocessor, Mr Compiler, parrots, the king
of Processorland, and Function Monkey. Or go to a thread on how to do
an ASCII art slide rule; how geeky can you get? Then there's New Urban
Male; what is it with Asian men and overblown masculinity?
The sites, as you can tell, are *cuckoo*.
Lridge164
writes:
>The only reason I have any longevity is because I separate my street name and
>life from my screen
>name and news group rhetoric. It would be all but impossible to reconcile the
>two.
>
>I'll bitch and moan here, where on the street I must be more politically
>correct.
>
primative jim,
maybe dat's how u made it this far to be 70 years old :>)
*
whether a feller lives in an urban area,
on a rez, or in da boondocks,
he might run into a lotta problemos
iffen he behaved in real life like he duz on-line
*
imo, on-line behavior
will eventually show da true character
of each individual
'cept fer da posturin' preeners
Primitive Jim
Lridge164 wrote:
Makes sense to me!
Da white boys love da posturin.
Seems as though posturin go hand in hand with condesendin
Wit dem, everything is competition.
Lot of words and little usable substance.
Not much if anything to take to da bank.
:-)
>
>
>
lisa dillon
> > today, i installed mcafee firewall..i am amazed...
> > i can not figure out why someone would try to hack an old 70 year woman who is
> > isolated in the desert...
> > what do i have they want????
> >
>
>
> Well, if you do any buying on-line, then they're probably looking for
> credit card and/or checking account numbers that might be stored
> somewhere on your computer.
>
> A few weeks back, someone had the bright idea of hacking into people's
> computer's, and setting it up so that people could down load porn from
> that person's computer.
>
> Then there are companies that have programs that look at your computer
> for any info that might be of use them or other's. Like which web
> sites you visit most often, seeing if you do alot of buying on the
> internet, etc.
>
> Lastly, there are those who like to break in for the the fun of it.
>
> For those interested. There's a free firewall program called
> ZoneAlarm that's pretty good at stopping people from breaking in. I
> installed it on my computer and I haven't had any problems.
HEY YAHHH KNOWWW, I got a straaaanggg phone calls from creatitorszzz's
OnE even asked me my acccount numbers and my HUSBANDS WORK ###!!! for
an acount of MINE!!! Verification BUTTHEAD!!! Got so dang verBALL'SZ
I!!!,wellllll,I LET HIM HAVE A TAPED CONVERSATION>>>OH BAYBAEEEEE"Z!!
I DO BELIEVE! There IS A GOD!!! OOOOHHHHHMMMMYYYYY HOW I
"JUST" "LOVE" IT!!! When "BILL Collectors!!! CALL AND HURAAASSS ME!!!
ON THE TELLEEE! AZZZPECIALTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy!
When IT'S A WHINNNN"NNNBOY MAN THING person!!! and a rude one at
THAT!!!@!.
I like being nice to nice people! MEAN! AS HELL!!! to those who
HURRRRASSS THE Hell!!! OUT OF POOR SLOBBBBB"""ZZZ!S LIkE Me ande my
HUSBAND!!! NO FREAK"NNN KKKIDDD"N...Lisa D....
lisa dillon
Aloha JBT,Got A Q for You? Ever Sold SAcred Pipe Stone? or anything
SAcred really....Lisa D...
Primitive Jim
lisa dillon wrote:
Never!
Never accepted even "one cent" for anything that can even remotely be thought of as sacred.
JBT
John Lewis
I traded my Xtian soul for a cd player - does that count as sacred????
LOL!
Primitive Jim
John Lewis wrote:
Only if ya play highjacked napster music on it.