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Brenda G. Kent

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Nov 30, 2002, 1:17:07 PM11/30/02
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I'd like to apologize for any miscommunication that has resulted
from my posts. I am a nice person and I love to teach AND learn....as a
lot of us seem to . I don't think I know anymore than anyone else..and I
am very receptive to learning. I believe that usenet is for everyone and
that we are all free to post and to not read what we want. All I ask is
for those people who already have an idea about me...to stop and ask
yourself why? and perhaps to wipe the slate clean and start over. I treat
everyone equally...I don't post on the basis of race or religion or creed
or lifestyle. I only ask for this to be extended to me in return.
Please don't see me as "a white colonizer". Just see me as a person...a
human being who was born and raised here in Canada. That's all I ask.

Blessings
Brenda

Shunkmanitu Ska

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Nov 30, 2002, 3:36:45 PM11/30/02
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Don't hold onto much hope for that "we are all free to post" part, at least
down here south of the border. With the latest "victory" that Prince Dubya
had with his "Hinterland Security Bill" we really don't take such freedoms
for granted anymore.

Even our "white colonizers" are starting to feel the rope burns. Those of
us that have lived on both sides of the "Red" line have always known that
justice and freedom for Indians and other minorities was never the same as
for well-to-do-white-america. Now that line is blurring and moving upscale
several degrees and forming along a phony "Patriot" distinction. This
country never really made it to "freedom and equality" for everyone and now
there is a definite reversal of that quest.

With my Dutchman Dad I could pass for white sometimes but I would have a
much harder time with this new category. Even my DAV membership, Purple
Heart, and Good Conduct medals don't make me look like a Bush supporter.

I don't think that Canada with fall to a "lighting war" but might well
succumb to an invading fungus of "save the world". Some of it has already
spread to the governing bodies of the Crown in the British homeland.

Take care and watch your south side.
Shunkmanitu Ska


"Brenda G. Kent" <wt...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in message
>>>>SNIPPPP<<<<


I believe that usenet is for everyone and
> that we are all free to post and to not read what we want.

<<<<SNIPPPP>>>>

Wayne George

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Nov 30, 2002, 4:01:23 PM11/30/02
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Hi BGK...it is my opinion that these words are for those who you seem to
think have not "received" you here in "Alt.Native" news group as well as you
may have expected. If this is true ... nod your head...

There are many here who have found a home and life they seek...and have
become sorta protective of it...one can even say they are a bit of a clique
unto themselves...to them I say "kiss my red assuming ass"..hey..it's
ok..they never respond to me anyway...
It may take some time..but if you are to stick it out and be patient with
yourself first..and the rest will follow..
for that is the nature of the beast.
I am First Nations...communication is important to me.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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Jack Strong

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Nov 30, 2002, 5:25:04 PM11/30/02
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I gladly accept your apology and look forward to starting over with you.

>
> Blessings
> Brenda


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Rev Dirk Wobbly

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Dec 1, 2002, 2:04:57 AM12/1/02
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"Jack Strong" <jackstr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 30-Nov-2002, wt...@victoria.tc.ca (Brenda G. Kent) wrote:
>
> > I'd like to apologize for any miscommunication that has resulted
> > from my posts. I am a nice person and I love to teach AND learn....as a
> > lot of us seem to . I don't think I know anymore than anyone else..and I
> > am very receptive to learning. I believe that usenet is for everyone and
> > that we are all free to post and to not read what we want. All I ask is
> > for those people who already have an idea about me...to stop and ask
> > yourself why? and perhaps to wipe the slate clean and start over. I
treat
> > everyone equally...I don't post on the basis of race or religion or
creed
> > or lifestyle. I only ask for this to be extended to me in return.
> > Please don't see me as "a white colonizer". Just see me as a person...a
> > human being who was born and raised here in Canada. That's all I ask.
>
> I gladly accept your apology and look forward to starting over with you.

Oh Gawd, another snivler crawling into the group.
Pathetic!

Richard
Hayduke Lives!
"In all our councils, in all our decisions, both individual and collective,
we must not forget the others who are not represented. We must represent
them ourselves. Who speaks for Wolf? Orca? Gila Monster? Red-cockaded
Woodpecker? Bog Lemming? Big Bluestem? Oak? Mycorrhizal fungi?"
Dave Foreman


Wayne George

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Dec 1, 2002, 2:54:14 AM12/1/02
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Hello RDW...with that remark you elevated the shit pile....nd from where I
sit,I can almost see your head,just before the stench gets here...to put it
another way "you stink"..and the thing is...you could care less...Which
leads me to believe your circle of friends must be somewhat small...perhaps
you would consider working on that ? Naw...you just have an erection every
time you see or hear an Indian speak. Gawd I love you...will you send me a
picture or an autographed book?
p.s. Jack Strong has shown this NG to be an honest man....something you
should strive for.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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BravesHeart

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Dec 1, 2002, 3:37:47 AM12/1/02
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Oh Gawd, another snivler crawling into the group.
Pathetic!

OH HELL THE RESIDENT JACKASS RETURNS. WOBBLE OFF SOMEWHERES & LET THE SANE
FOLKS ALONE

Jack Strong

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Dec 1, 2002, 10:08:11 AM12/1/02
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He must see that thing are calming down with our new arrivals and it's his
chance to gain some desperately needed attention. Poor little fellar has
been ignored since the entrance of Meaghan. Don't worry Wobbly, folks will
return to kicking and taunting your sorry ass again. The attention you so
desperately crave will come back, and you will no longer be living in the
darkness that occurs when people ignore you.

Jack Strong

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Dec 1, 2002, 10:30:26 AM12/1/02
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On 1-Dec-2002, "Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote:

> Hello RDW...with that remark you elevated the shit pile....nd from where I
> sit,I can almost see your head,just before the stench gets here...to put
> it
> another way "you stink"..and the thing is...you could care less...Which
> leads me to believe your circle of friends must be somewhat
> small...perhaps
> you would consider working on that ?

Sadly Wayne we are the rev's circle of friends, at least to his way of
thinking. He has to up the level of his obnoxious behavior every so often
to get the attention that he so desperately needs. I kinda feel sorry for
the little fellar.

> Naw...you just have an erection every
> time you see or hear an Indian speak. Gawd I love you...will you send me a
> picture or an autographed book?
> p.s. Jack Strong has shown this NG to be an honest man....something you
> should strive for.

Thanks Wayne. I think it's fair that if someone offers an apology to accept
it. Otherwise they never have an oppurtunity to enter the fold and they
become people like Wobbly here.

Lridge164

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Dec 1, 2002, 6:21:03 PM12/1/02
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In article <DG9G9.12437$Qr.2...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>, "Wayne George"
<wa...@turtleback.net> writes:

>There are many here who have found a home and life they seek...and have
>become sorta protective of it...one can even say they are a bit of a clique
>unto themselves...to them I say "kiss my red assuming ass"..hey..it's
>ok..they never respond to me anyway...
>It may take some time..but if you are to stick it out and be patient with
>yourself first..and the rest will follow..
>for that is the nature of the beast.
>I am First Nations...communication is important to me.
>
>The Smiling Crow :-)
>Anishinabek artist
>~~~~

smilin' crow, jest to show i aint a member of da click, i will respond to
u....dont most newcomers haveta run da gauntlet? :>)

Wolvbtch

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Dec 1, 2002, 7:12:14 PM12/1/02
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actually, i have never noticed a "clique"...
i have, however, noticed trolls, xtians, missionaries, are not usually welcome
here...
as for kissing wayne's red assuming ass...welllll....
i think he should be careful in saying that...
there may be those who would like to, then he would never get rid of
them...lol...

>From: lridge164

>
>u....dont most newcomers haveta run da gauntlet? :>)


some people forget, some people forgive..
me? i do neither...
http://hometown.aol.com/wolvbtch/index.html
Free Leonard Peltier

Wayne George

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Dec 1, 2002, 9:07:37 PM12/1/02
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no....

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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Wayne George

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Dec 1, 2002, 9:12:18 PM12/1/02
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I've been hunted and hounded for years by those who wish to place their lips
on such a fine nd hansome piece of Chipawatomi ass that has ever sat a
fence...but alas,only a few have managed such a feat..nd lucky for me,they
come back for more.
As for that "clique" thang...I said that so's yall would sit up nd take
notice..nd it seems to have worked.


The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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wolvbtch

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Dec 1, 2002, 11:01:14 PM12/1/02
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thinking about this a bit more...
no, everyone does not...
only those who come in and act like assholes...


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Jan

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wolv...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch) wrote in message news:<20021201191214...@mb-dh.aol.com>...

> actually, i have never noticed a "clique"...
> i have, however, noticed trolls, xtians, missionaries, are not usually welcome
> here...

Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
desperate selling it..?

(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
they can cover their own score.)

~Jan

Wolvbtch

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Dec 2, 2002, 11:51:36 AM12/2/02
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i have never been able to figure that out...
perhaps your explanation is as good as any...
however, this is the first time i have seen anyone trying to proselytize
"witchcraft", let alone this very peculiar brand...

>From: keg...@martnet.com

>
>Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
>desperate selling it..?

>(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
>they can cover their own score.)

Kerstin

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Dec 2, 2002, 12:45:18 PM12/2/02
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"Wayne George"
"Lridge164" wrote:

> Hi BGK...it is my opinion that these words are for those who you seem to
> think have not "received" you here in "Alt.Native" news group as well as
you
> may have expected. If this is true ... nod your head...

> There are many here who have found a home and life they seek...and have
> become sorta protective of it...one can even say they are a bit of a
clique
> unto themselves...to them I say "kiss my red assuming ass"..hey..it's
> ok..they never respond to me anyway...
> It may take some time..but if you are to stick it out and be patient with
> yourself first..and the rest will follow..
> for that is the nature of the beast.
> I am First Nations...communication is important to me.

> The Smiling Crow :-)
> Anishinabek artist
> ~~~~

>smilin' crow, jest to show i aint a member of da click, i will respond to


>u....dont most newcomers haveta run da gauntlet? :>)

Hi,
I know nobody who don“t respond to you.
So I“m not a member of a click also and free as a bird.
(Till I meet the next gauntlet at the next corner) Such is life. ;)


Road_WytchŽ

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Dec 2, 2002, 4:27:49 PM12/2/02
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Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
desperate selling it..?..... Uh-Huh, Yep !

(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
they can cover their own score.)

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Brenda G. Kent

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>
> Re: Apology
>
> From: keg...@martnet.com (Jan)
> Reply to: [1] Jan
> Date: 2 Dec 2002 08:46:10 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com/
> Newsgroups:
> [2] alt.native,
> [3] alt.pagan
> Followup to: [4] newsgroup(s)
> References:
> [5] <20021201182103...@mb-bg.aol.com>
> [6] <20021201191214...@mb-dh.aol.com>
>
>wolv...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch) wrote in message [7] news:<20021201191214.20084
>.0000...@mb-dh.aol.com>...

>> actually, i have never noticed a "clique"...
>> i have, however, noticed trolls, xtians, missionaries, are not usually welcom
>e
>> here...
>
>Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
>desperate selling it..?
>
>(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
>they can cover their own score.)
>
>~Jan

***I feel a clique...there are the ones who think they are superior...

and the rest of us...Will,Wayne George,Redbear,myself, Meaghan,Sam etc.


Brenda

tlagiloi

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Dec 2, 2002, 5:11:52 PM12/2/02
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mebbe she'll clique her ruby slippers a coupla times an whoosh go back to oz
or kansas or lalaland........wherever the puppet is from......
ain't superior......just ain't interested.....
tlagiloi

Wayne George

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Dec 2, 2002, 5:45:46 PM12/2/02
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Hi Kerstin..here it looks like you think "Lridge164" wrote this..when it was
Wayne george"The Smiling Crow ".
Was wondering where you found "Lridge164" ????

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anuishinabek artist
~~~~

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Anuh1

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Dec 2, 2002, 7:52:53 PM12/2/02
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In article <b806cb02.02120...@posting.google.com>,
keg...@martnet.com (Jan) writes:

>Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
>desperate selling it..?

Great question... ;-D

Kate Collins

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Dec 2, 2002, 8:17:28 PM12/2/02
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an...@aol.com (Anuh1) wrote in news:20021202195253.10605.00002301@mb-
fe.aol.com:

They lack a hobby . . .

--
-K-----
"The Truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head."
Terry Pratchett

Brenda G. Kent

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>
> Re: Apology
>
> From: tlagiloi <tlag...@netscape.net>
> Reply to: [1] tlagiloi
> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:11:52 -0700
> Newsgroups:
> [2] alt.native
> Followup to: [3] newsgroup(s)
> References:
> [4] <3deb...@news.victoria.tc.ca>
>
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>
>mebbe she'll clique her ruby slippers a coupla times an whoosh go back to oz
>or kansas or lalaland........wherever the puppet is from......
>ain't superior......just ain't interested.....
>tlagiloi
>

***fair enough.
Brenda

Wayne George

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:00:06 PM12/2/02
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Brenda..The word "clique" used in reference to "Alt.Native" by me---is used
in the same fashion as other words that refer to anything close to
resembling a "myth".
In other words..."There is no clique here"...If anything at all,we are a
conglomeration of "cliques" which make use appear as one. We are a bunch of
individual cliques unto ourselves as we see ourselves in others "opinions"
with regards to the "opinions" we post here or there.
We are not who we appear to be.
Nd some of use are legends in our own small minds ,afraid to open our minds
,for fear something will get out or something get in....if only the latter
would be the case.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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Pumaclaw

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:52:05 PM12/2/02
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If you'd all put her into the filter like I did, she'd leave faster.


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: tlagiloi tlag...@netscape.net
>Date: 12/2/2002 3:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <3DEBDAA8...@netscape.net>


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><head> <title></title></head>mebbe she'll clique her ruby slippers a


>coupla times an whoosh go back tooz
>or kansas or lalaland........wherever the puppet is from......
>ain't superior......just ain't interested.....
>tlagiloi
>
>Brenda G. Kent wrote:

><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid3d...@news.victoria.tc.ca"> <blockquote
>type="cite"> Re: Apology


>
> From: keg...@martnet.com (Jan)
> Reply to: [1] Jan
> Date: 2 Dec 2002 08:46:10 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com/
> Newsgroups:
> [2] alt.native,
> [3] alt.pagan
> Followup to: [4] newsgroup(s)
> References:
> [5] <20021201182103...@mb-bg.aol.com>
> [6] <20021201191214...@mb-dh.aol.com>
>
>wolv...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch) wrote in message [7]
>news:<20021201191214.20084
>.0000...@mb-dh.aol.com>...

> <blockquote type="cite"> actually, i have never noticed a


>"clique"...
>i have, however, noticed trolls, xtians, missionaries, are not usually welcom

> </blockquote> e
> <blockquote type="cite"> here...
> </blockquote> Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so


>great why are they so
>desperate selling it..?
>
>(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
>they can cover their own score.)
>
>~Jan

> </blockquote> <!---->


>***I feel a clique...there are the ones who think they are superior...
>
>and the rest of us...Will,Wayne George,Redbear,myself, Meaghan,Sam etc.
>
>
>Brenda

> </blockquote>
>
>--------------050203090002090701040204--
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Pumaclaw

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Dec 2, 2002, 9:59:37 PM12/2/02
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Seems that way, eh? I agree


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: keg...@martnet.com (Jan)
>Date: 12/2/2002 9:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <b806cb02.02120...@posting.google.com>

Brenda G. Kent

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>
> Re: Apology

>
> From: "Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net>
> Reply to: [1] "Wayne George"
> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 02:00:06 GMT
> Organization: Shaw Residential Internet
> Newsgroups:
> [2] alt.native,
> [3] alt.pagan
> Followup to: [4] newsgroup(s)
> References:
> [5] <3deb...@news.victoria.tc.ca>

>
>Brenda..The word "clique" used in reference to "Alt.Native" by me---is used
>in the same fashion as other words that refer to anything close to
>resembling a "myth".
>In other words..."There is no clique here"...If anything at all,we are a
>conglomeration of "cliques" which make use appear as one. We are a bunch of
>individual cliques unto ourselves as we see ourselves in others "opinions"
>with regards to the "opinions" we post here or there.
>We are not who we appear to be.
>Nd some of use are legends in our own small minds ,afraid to open our minds
>,for fear something will get out or something get in....if only the latter
>would be the case.
>
>The Smiling Crow :-)
>Anishinabek artist


***thanks for the teaching! interesting.
Brenda

Jan

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Dec 2, 2002, 11:43:20 PM12/2/02
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I don't think the drug metaphor really explains it, actually, just
what it seems like to me.

I just notise that the same annoying people trying to sell a religion
as the True Way are not benefiting much from it - not wisdom for
better understanding and dealing with life and the world. I don't even
think it makes them very happy. It looks like what they get is a
false comfort/explaination/solution for their problems, and that seems
a little like drugs to me.

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tlagiloi

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Dec 3, 2002, 1:33:49 AM12/3/02
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whatever blows your dress up george..........you want pancakes with that ?!?
a mind is a terrible thing to waste......remember garbage in.....garbage out
seems like it would make more sense to put good things in.......not garbage.
or.....could just clique your ruby slippers george..........
an that's "clique" used by me!
tlagiloi

kate

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Dec 3, 2002, 3:08:30 AM12/3/02
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(Wolvbtch) wrote:
Jan wrote:
Meagenda wrote:


> >> actually, i have never noticed a "clique"...
> >> i have, however, noticed trolls, xtians, missionaries, are not usually
welcom
> >e
> >> here...
> >
> >Re xians/missionaries, if what they have is so great why are they so
> >desperate selling it..?
> >
> >(I feel it's like some drug addiction where the addict is selling so
> >they can cover their own score.)
> >
> >~Jan
>
> ***I feel a clique...there are the ones who think they are superior...
>
> and the rest of us...Will,Wayne George,Redbear,myself, Meaghan,Sam etc.

*Condescending and hypocritical. I'm showing you your *proof* now. And,
since you asked, will continue to do so. BTW, Will and Sam are the same
person. Reading........another *proof* of what we've been telling you all
along. Comprehension skills are important. I'll teach you that too, sooner
or later. Another thing, your headers are getting irritating and I know you
can remove them. You must be doing this out of spite and disrespect. Reap
what you sow.

kate

Wolvbtch

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Dec 3, 2002, 7:06:22 AM12/3/02
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gee, and here i thought this was ALT.NATIVE...
not alt. comeonyoumixedupwitches...lol...
maybe you should visit alt.witches, wayne...
i like you, wayne...but you have totally confused me here...

> From: "Wayne George"

>..The word "clique" used in reference to "Alt.Native" by me---is used
>>in the same fashion as other words that refer to anything close to
>>resembling a "myth".
>>In other words..."There is no clique here"...If anything at all,we are a
>>conglomeration of "cliques" which make use appear as one. We are a bunch of
>>individual cliques unto ourselves as we see ourselves in others "opinions"
>>with regards to the "opinions" we post here or there.
>>We are not who we appear to be.
>>Nd some of use are legends in our own small minds ,afraid to open our minds
>>,for fear something will get out or something get in....if only the latter
>>would be the case.
>>
>>The Smiling Crow :-)
>>Anishinabek artist

some people forget, some people forgive..

Wolvbtch

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Dec 3, 2002, 7:40:54 AM12/3/02
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how fortunate redbear and wayne...lol...
they are among the elite...

>From: "kate"

Wayne George

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Dec 3, 2002, 9:25:43 AM12/3/02
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"Whatever"...now there's an interseting word from an "ent-telly-gent" source...nd hello to you to "Teelageeloolee"...oooops,did I spell your name wrong!!!!
Tell you what blows my dress up is "Folk" like you who "try" to have a conversation with me...nd don't know the first step in doing so....so they have to sit there thinking I'm some sort of whobee-boobee they need to show they have a brain.
What you need son...is a good history lesson..taught to you be some one who loves you and understands life...I'm sure there are some around you who fit that bill...now untie those panties of yours nd buck up.
your friend...(less of course,you ain't no member of the First Nations..and just wanna pick a fight..then I'd say .."put up yer dukes"..)
Ā 
The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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"tlagiloi" <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3DEC504D...@netscape.net...

Wayne George

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ALRIGHT!!!!....WHO painted me with that "elite" brush!!!!....starting to
think ..one has to watch who and what they say to simple folk around these
parts(cause thar seems to be a lot of persnickity folk who take pleasure in
getting their panties in a big ole knot whenever they see some interesting
words with us elite folks names on em.I like the blues,purples,yellows and
whites...OH YAH nd the reds too.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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"Wolvbtch" <wolv...@aol.comnope> wrote in message

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Wayne George

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Think your "confused" Wolvbtch?...there seems to be a few others within the
group who have just discovered the same thing. It might be the spelling of
the word "us"..I did not do spell ckeck,and some places where it should read
"us", it read "use".
Oh...an I try to stay away from other "alt's"

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist

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tlagiloi

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wow.........! Ā  Ā  Ā he shoots! Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  he scores!
like said kiddo....whatever blows your dress up george. whatever melts your butter.
whatever floats your boat.......oooooooh "dukes of hazard???" shakin in my boots!
shouldn't tell fibs tho bro.....you don't love me.......that's for sure!
but then.......could be....what they call it???.....dysfunctional.....
save it for the christian converts and the kiddies orĀ  folks back home.
same goes for the history lesson......they might want it......or would they? do they?
clique those ruby slippers again and mebbe find out?
they do say you can pick your friends but not your family.......
so unruffle those feathers! like water off a duck's back!
oooops......that's right........crow don't like gettin wet..........but turtle does!
but then......that's showbiz on the internet.......go to sell that art!
and that folks is the end of "our show" for the tourists. Ā (applause) (bow)

gotta remember.......not every post/show is only just for you kiddo Ā *wink*
buy your tickets at wayne's website. (don't forget to send me my cut now)
need to cut out some foraging/gathering myself!
your contrary Ā "friend" Ā  Ā  *grin*
tlagiloi

Wayne George

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Hi "TeeGagoolee"..your so sweet,I like to put my bigĀ warm furry hands all over you...but I stay away from the "contrary" kind..your welcome to walk along by my side though...
Hey..I might even learn something from you. (but leave my wardrobe alone..K...)
oh,almost forgot...my art...it "sells itself"...
Ā 
The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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"tlagiloi" <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3DED0096...@netscape.net...

tlagiloi

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wow! feathers flyin now!
a nekkid crow..... gotta pity the poor critter.......
sorry kiddo.......don't swing the way of your hairy hands....
mebbe a priest got you confused along the way.....dom-min-neh pa-treh nabisco!
prefer a warm wild woman under my blanket!
sure your "art" sells.......wanna a good deal on the brooklyn bridge!?!......*grin*
or how about manhattan......now there was an art sell!
but no selling pipestone, minn anymore eh......just postcards!
crows are just natural thieves.........wow....a shiny ring!
wow a pretty egg an some baby birds.......now that's a big gulp!
and crows don't walk.....they strut and hop!....but not the turtle dunk.

get that apron on! it matches your summer dress perfect!
wouldn't think of touchin it.........it's.......furry hands dirty.....eeeeew
take the heat and stay in the kitchen!......er circus........
dont ya know everbody loves the clowns!
and don't forget! Ā  Ā Ā  to give me my share of the tickets sold!
this show brought to you by theĀ  proctored and gambled crow!
tlagiloi

Wayne George

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:-)...Hi Tee-lageel-oy;
are you a real "banty-rooster" or a "couch-potatoe" wannabee?
Ā 
p.s.Ā  often folk like you come around...but why do you leave?...I could never figure that out...
Ā 
The Smiling Crow:-)
Anishinabek artist
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"tlagiloi" <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3DED2243...@netscape.net...

Lawrence G. Leichtman, M.D.

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In article <hn3H9.97285$ea.16...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>, "Wayne
George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote:

Mazing, if you killfile Brenda how much this decreases the inane traffic
on this newsgroup.

--
Lawrence G. Leichtman, M.D., FAAP, FACMG
Virginia Beach, VA
la...@lleichtman.org

Wayne George

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Dec 3, 2002, 5:39:20 PM12/3/02
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Hello Larry...I never could have the heart to "killfile" anyone for whatever
reason..I do seem to remember threatening to do it though. I just mark the
"inane traffic"as "read" and it cleans itself up in time. Or I go to "tools"
and click "options",then to "maintenance"..so on and so on....and the "inane
traffic" always returns.....and I start all over again....
But hey..I love it here....I can leave..some don't have that option.

p.s. nice to see your still around.Hope all is well with you and yours.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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"Lawrence G. Leichtman, M.D." <la...@lleichtman.org> wrote in message
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Anuh1

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In article <hn3H9.97285$ea.16...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>, "Wayne George"
<wa...@turtleback.net> writes:

>Think your "confused" Wolvbtch?...there seems to be a few others within the
>group who have just discovered the same thing. It might be the spelling of
>the word "us"..I did not do spell ckeck,and some places where it should read
>"us", it read "use".
>Oh...an I try to stay away from other "alt's"

Ah, the Crow has "Five-Finger Disease". Or being a crow, is it 3-talon
disease????

;-D

Pumaclaw

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Just a bad keyboard. I got one of those too, keeps misspelling stuff.


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Wayne George" wa...@turtleback.net
>Date: 12/3/2002 7:40 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <hn3H9.97285$ea.16...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>

Pumaclaw

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Elite? E-lite? Right along with Bud lite, now we get e-lite, the e-mailable
brewsky. Ain't technology grand?


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: wolv...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
>Date: 12/3/2002 5:40 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <20021203074054...@mb-cg.aol.com>

Pumaclaw

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Well, what gets me is the hypocrisy of it all. Here they stand and yap about
family values and in the same breath try to tell me that everything my folks,
my grandparents, my people have taught me is wrong and primitive and heathen
and what have ya. How's that for family values? Insulting every value my
family taught me. Hey boy, just forget what your family told ya, take it from
me, a perfect stranger, what's what how and when. Good goin', aaye?
Next..................


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: keg...@martnet.com (Jan)
>Date: 12/2/2002 9:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <b806cb02.0212...@posting.google.com>

wolvbtch

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hehehe
tlagiloi could probably call you son..lol...
as for being first nation..he is...
actually, i think he could teach us ALL the history lesson...
i think you know that, wayne...
somethimes we have to be careful what we ask for...
and here, in this instance, you have asked for whatever you get...lol...
maybe the place for you to have your "conversations" in is alt.wannabeewitches, eh?

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<H93H9.154046$ka.34...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...

> --

wolvbtch

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yeah..well..ya wanna run with the big dogs, ya gotta learn to lift
your leg, tlagaloi...
them folks ain't learned that yet...lol...
and they end up pissin' all over themselves...
maybe someday they will catch up to you...
but at the pace they are going, i doubt it...

tlagiloi <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3DED0096...@netscape.net>...

> > "tlagiloi" <tlag...@netscape.net <mailto:tlag...@netscape.net>>

> --

Wayne George

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Hi Anuh1...I remember back to when I was young...We had just returned from
the small town,seven miles away from the Reservation..my Mother saw that I
had a "package of balloons".." Where did you get these,she asked?".."From
the lady in the store..she gave them to me" I said....I'll never forget the
ride back to the "5&10 cent store"...it was a shorter ride than I had
remembered it to be. I was told to take them back to the "lady" who gave
them to me.
Some lessons in Life we learn early...some are even repeated....

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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Wayne George

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Could it be all the "food" I leave in it? along with the hair that falls,not
to mention whatever else that falls..heck, even eat desert here nd candy
like jujubbies nd such.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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Wayne George

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Dec 3, 2002, 11:43:52 PM12/3/02
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Oh!!..then I stand corrected again...and there really is a "clique" floating
around in "alt.native"????...my goodness..nd you have to be a certain
age,..nd not piss on somebody's leg..nd kiss ass..naw..never did never will.
I don't put any man or woman on a "pedestal the way some around these parts
do...I never talk up or down to any one I think is deserving of it..I talk
to "people" the way they talk to me.
Wolvbtch...maybe that when you were in "Alt.Wannabeewitches" you saw some
speak the way I do..but this little injun is OK just where he is...
no disrespect intended..nd if you see it as such..then you,perhaps,are one
of those who are a "ledgend" in their own mind.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist.
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"wolvbtch" <wolv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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tlagiloi

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Dec 4, 2002, 1:45:09 AM12/4/02
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hey kiddo
been here yrs an yrs....way before you ever showed up.....
mostly just to read the news.....
too busy with real things to lookit the mess you been makin here.....
playing elder in training to new folks that show up.......tsk tsk.....
being all lovey dovey with the christian witches and such.....
but hey....she might just move out there when you get your commune set up.
even remember when you advertised your art website.....
and saw the one with the bloodstone pipe there for sale.......
all put together and everything.....just like at your booth......
but then some good folks steered me away from the booth.......hehe
they called you man-boy george.....but thought boy george
wasn't that a wierd music guy from the 80's.......you didn't look like him.......
but didn't he wear dresses ?!?.......hmmm.......mebbe with the make-up off......

don't forget to send me my share of the ticket sales........
cuz that's about it.......that's the end of our show........
and you can keep the apron as our gift to you.
besides......you had them hairy hands all under it.

probably wouldn't said nuthin......but you kept askin.......
so glad to oblidge........this noise ain't worse than the other garbage on here lately......
at least it ends here. Ā its the end of the wayne george/tlagiloi comedy hour show.
they cancelled our show!
tlagiloi

Lane Baldwin

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"Pumaclaw" <puma...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: Just a bad keyboard. I got one of those too, keeps misspelling stuff.
:
:
I've got one of those defective keyboards, too! Has a recall ever been
issued on these or what??

And my spell-check program is pretty stupid as well, come to think of it.

Lane


Lane Baldwin

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"Pumaclaw" <puma...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: Elite? E-lite? Right along with Bud lite, now we get e-lite, the

e-mailable
: brewsky. Ain't technology grand?
:
:
Introducing NEW E-liteĀ®. All the flavor of Usenet with only half the
bullsh*t. Now *there's* a concept!

Lane


Wayne George

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Again I stand corrected..It is true that we all learn from life..and some build a hard shell around themselves...some are stuck..in the "living legend assumptions of them self"....Perhaps you "TLAGILOI" use differnt names..because you have something to hide...
You "reject" my hand in friendship and brotherhood..this speaks for itself, of your mindset. You have a lot to teach me..but "respect" is not one of them.
I do sincerly apologize if my past words to you were offencive and bitting...as in the last post to you.
It is people like you and I that keep the First Nations tires spinning.perhaps because as legends in our own slick minds we can not see the help we truley can provide...
You can go play..stick it to some other Indian...Friend or enemy..I'm comfortable with both,but I prefer to be "friend".
without malice
Ā 
The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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"tlagiloi" <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3DEDA475...@netscape.net...

wolvbtch

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i have been here for almost ten years, wayne...
it is you who seem to be bewildered and confused...a male trait for
some males who are easily befuddled by the attentions of someone, when
they are so hungry for attention of anything female they would accept
anything...
it is you who have invited all of us who find witchcraft and wannabee
witchcraft teachers odious...as most indian people do...to kiss your
ass...
or have you, in your befuddlement forgotten that post?
it is you who have insulted this board, and many of us on it, in your
defense of a cup of tea...
are you so easily swayed by an invitation to a cup of tea with a woman
you would forget who you are? it seems so...
"lil injun"???
you are hardly behaving or speaking as ANY "injun", whatever that
is...
i suppose you have no problem with the name "redskin", either..
i have to tell you, wayne...not that you care...
i had respect for you...i no longer have...
your championship of witchcraft over those who you CLAIM to be of your
own kind should shame you...but i doubt it does...

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<cKfH9.157702$ka.35...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...

wolvbtch

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:21:22 AM12/4/02
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i had never thought you a fool, wayne...
or stupid...
tell me why, when people dig themselves into a hole, they just keep
digging?
this man has been on alt.native for about ten years...he was here
before me, and i have been here for about ten years, under a different
account and name...
you just don't know who he is...


"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<pu9H9.30744$Qr.5...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Wayne George

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"JUSTANOLDMAN"...A respected name coming from the lips of Wayne George.
It was a lose for both you and I when you were 'turned away" from visiting me at my booth at AFNEXXUS,by your "friends"...
I was looking forward to seeing you and speaking to you.Ā You told me you would come and see me there..well, I suppose you did....
When you "turned away"..you lost....because....you refused to extend your circle of life..you broke your word.
You might have come to me and said.."Wayne..this is why I can't speak to you about your art"
But you made your choice...and for that I will continue to respect you....
And now with your words to me here...
I will pray for you and your way....
Ā 
And to you "Wolvbits"...I still respect you to..and Luv you,in a special way..
Ā 
My ass is forever red..and those who disagree.."put a sock in it"...butt you gotsta catch me first..
Ā 
The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

Wayne George

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:42:14 AM12/4/02
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In fact..I do know..
Mii'gwetch

The Smiuling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
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Wayne George

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:47:35 AM12/4/02
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Hi Wolvbtch..I'll ignore your comments here in this post...until you get to
know me better...you see me from behind a screen..just like the one I have
in front of me...how can we know much of each other..if we do not speak? I
try not to make as many "assumptions" as I do in real life..but sometimes
it's hard to do here..I need practice.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

Jan

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Dec 4, 2002, 10:59:53 AM12/4/02
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You got it dead-on with the hypocrisy, Pumaclaw! Fundy wankers don't
know their own history of mass-murder in the name of God - hell,
fundys don't even know much about the origin of their own religion!

Tell them that the New Testament was a bunch of thrown together
manuscripts (and doctored early on at the Council of Niccea 300CE),
that a number of early xian writings didn't get included and could
just as easily be called scripture and that in effect they don't have
a clue what message Jesus meant to give (I could say something very
un-kind re that, but I'll be nice today;).

But no, they are desperate looking for answers for their simple minds
and looking for someone to follow. And of course they don't like other
people thinking different or are satisfied with different ways because
that crashes their weak faith in their "True Way".

Wow, didn't mean to write a rantagram!

~Jan
PS I notise (from reading alt.pagan and talking to people) that many
people are reacting from disgust with that hypocrisy and evil and they
are trying to find or make a worth while alternative with values that
are true. Personally I think that is a excellant attitude and effort
and is toward a new and better world.

puma...@aol.com (Pumaclaw) wrote in message news:<20021203222340...@mb-da.aol.com>...

wolvbtch

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Dec 4, 2002, 11:29:27 AM12/4/02
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one more post, wayne...
and then i am done with you as i am done with your little foolish
selfcentered friend...
i will tell you that you shame yourself...
take that for what it is worth...if you can...
have you really strayed so far from your people????

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<cKfH9.157702$ka.35...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Lynne883

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>"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message
>news:<cKfH9.157702$ka.35...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...
(snip)

>> Wolvbtch...maybe that when you were in "Alt.Wannabeewitches" you saw some
>> speak the way I do..but this little injun is OK just where he is...
>> no disrespect intended..nd if you see it as such..then you,perhaps,are one
>> of those who are a "ledgend" in their own mind.
>>
>> The Smiling Crow :-)
>> Anishinabek artist.
>> ~~~~
>>
Ya know....it looks like I've missed a couple of things go'n on here...guess
that's what happens when you start marking everything "read" cause you're tired
of sifting through shit...and tons of "disrespectful" remarks. There seems to
be many "legends" here, but Wolfie ain't one of them...sad thing is....you KNOW
that...

MIB529

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Dec 4, 2002, 6:19:44 PM12/4/02
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Too bad there are so many anuses and not enough bodies to support them, eh?

wolv...@aol.com (wolvbtch) wrote in message news:<efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com>...
> thinking about this a bit more...
> no, everyone does not...
> only those who come in and act like assholes...
>
>
> lrid...@aol.com (Lridge164) wrote in message news:<20021201182103...@mb-bg.aol.com>...
>
> > smilin' crow, jest to show i aint a member of da click, i will respond to
> > u....dont most newcomers haveta run da gauntlet? :>)

MIB529

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Dec 4, 2002, 6:46:37 PM12/4/02
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Well, there are like, ten civilized alts on the whole heirarchy, so
you're not missing much. LOL

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<hn3H9.97285$ea.16...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Wayne George

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Dec 4, 2002, 7:36:09 PM12/4/02
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It is possible, Lynne883...that you will understand these words...
nd you can "quote me"...
""When anyone talks to me or at me..I try to talk back at them or to
them..in the same fashion as I assume they are talking at me""...When
someone "suggests" to me that I should go here or there...I say.."Fuck
you"...
I've had folk "suggesting" to me all my life...some suggestions I've taken
and some I haven't
p.s. I do not mark everything as "read"....What I do mark ..are those
posters and replies that do not interest me...
I have my choices..just as you do.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist

~~~~

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Pumaclaw

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http://www.zone38.net/phs/

>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Lane Baldwin" la...@bluethunder.org
>Date: 12/4/2002 6:15 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <askua8$5be$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>

Pumaclaw

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Yeah, you're right though, I'm also still wondering what that message was he
was trying to convey.


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: keg...@martnet.com (Jan)

>Date: 12/4/2002 8:59 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <b806cb02.02120...@posting.google.com>

Pumaclaw

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Won't find it in the bible either. I kinda like that one story where this guy
was out on the town with his pals while his 10 fiancees were waiting for him by
the side of the road, or maybe he was a pimp and they were trying to hook some
truckers, don't know which. Anyhow, it got later and later but luckily they
all carried lanterns in their handbags. Then it got even later, and 5 of them
apparently even thought of bringing a little oil tanker along while the other 5
ran out of oil for their red lights, so they went over to the five and dime and
bought some more.
Well just that moment while the 5 in the store were waiting for the credit card
approval to go through, the guy shows up. He married the 5 brides who had been
prepared for all eventualities like the boyscouts but when the other 5 came
back from the store, the guy "knew them not" in the biblical sense.
Moral of the story? Who the hey knows, aaye? Maybe if a woman doesn't wanna
wind up in a harem, she shouldn't bring any oil? Anyway, that's one of the
stories Jesus told. Dang if I know what he was trying to convey with it.

>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: mic...@thelastchurch.borg
>Date: 12/4/2002 12:03 PM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <asjsuuc5p87d0a95h...@4ax.com>


>
>On 4 Dec 2002 07:59:53 -0800, keg...@martnet.com (Jan) wrote:
>
>>You got it dead-on with the hypocrisy,
>

>fundi's, holy rollers, and a bunch more main stream Christians have
>really given the name Christ a bad name and a bad rap. But judging
>Christ by their actions is like judging america by how the street
>gangs act.
> HOw ever anyone who seeks the truth can find the truthful message
>of Christ. But You won't find it in The Christian church.
>
>
>Michael
>
>.
>
>A preacher is the blind
>leading the blind...
>
>The Last Church
>http://www.thelastchurch.org
>mic...@thelastchurch.org
>
>
>
>
>
>


Mike

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tlagiloi <tlag...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<3DEDA475...@netscape.net>...

even remember when you advertised your art website.....
> and saw the one with the bloodstone pipe there for sale.......

Forgive me for cutting in, but I did want to say something about those
that take a rock or peace of wood and make something out of them.
I've known a few that could trainsform a peace of this earth and make
something wonderful out of it. I have always had the highest respect
for them. It is said in the old ways that the one that made everything
put a peace of herself/himself into each and every thing on this
earth. When a person does this and gives it away or even sells it they
also put a peace of themselfs into each and everyone of them. Some
call this love I think it may be close to it. No person that can do
this will ever be a bad person at heart no matter what is said or
thought by themselfs or anyone else. Some here have even sent me and
my family things they have made, and I wish them to know we hold those
things close to our hearts as we would if it was they them selfs.

Mike

Pumaclaw

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Dec 5, 2002, 1:16:27 AM12/5/02
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You got it. I think we could market that.

>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Lane Baldwin" la...@bluethunder.org

>Date: 12/4/2002 6:17 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <askudn$5kh$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>

Lynne883

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>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Wayne George" wa...@turtleback.net
>Date: 12/4/2002 6:36 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <ZbxH9.161293$ka.35...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>

>It is possible, Lynne883...that you will understand these words...
>nd you can "quote me"...
> ""When anyone talks to me or at me..I try to talk back at them or to
>them..in the same fashion as I assume they are talking at me""...When
>someone "suggests" to me that I should go here or there...I say.."Fuck
>you"...
>I've had folk "suggesting" to me all my life...some suggestions I've taken
>and some I haven't
>p.s. I do not mark everything as "read"....What I do mark ..are those
>posters and replies that do not interest me...
>I have my choices..just as you do.
>
>The Smiling Crow :-)
>Anishinabek artist
>~~~~
>

I wasn't implying anything except that there is a lot of *shit* floating around
this board, and it is much easier to hit "marked read" than to deal with
it....I happened to catch that particular post and responded to it. I only
speak for myself, but I felt you were way out of line....JMO You have "known"
Wolfie for a while now, and the statement that you made was meant to cut to the
bone....unnecessary and uncalled for under the circumstances, again....JMO I
have just always thought you were way above that nonsence....I was surprized.
And I don't recall ever *suggesting* that you go any where, or do anything...

Lane Baldwin

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"Pumaclaw" <puma...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: You got it. I think we could market that.
:
:
:
If we *really* could get a product like that to market, we'd make billions I
tell you, BILLIONS. Why we'd be able to fund every program imaginable for
the Nations. It'd make all the casinos look like lemonade stands in
comparison. The Nations would have so much money, none of us would ever have
to work again...we could go back to our traditional way of life. Why, we
might even have the money to buy a president!


Well...I can *dream*, can't I?

<snicker>

Lane


Wayne George

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:53:20 AM12/5/02
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Lynne883...I never said that you "suugested" I go somewhere.. My comment was
in reference to Wolvbtch tellng me I should go to
"Alt.Wannabeewitches"........
And I said..."When anyone tells me I should go here or there..I say Fuck
You"...
Now,I'm sure you would say the same thing if anyone suggested you should go
somewhere..perhaps not in those words.

As for my words that were meant to cut to the bone.."as you put it"...When
anyone talks to me as if they know something about me..using
assumptions...and speaking down to me..I give back in kind.

My point is simple...........
be nice to me...I be nice to you. That is what I say to any who I meet in
this life...I'm still trying to understand the life on the internet..
I don't always read what is in the News Group...because I am busy raising a
GrandDaughter and trying to be a good Husband..and have time to "try and
understand the artist in me"..yes there are many other things I do in this
life...and when someone from this "News Group"...puts there face in mine and
"tell" me I'm wrong...I step back and look at what it is they say is
wrong...Then I speak...nd somtimes what comes out is wrong or it is right,or
half of one or the other.

My choice is to stay here

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

"Lynne883" <lynn...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Wayne George

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:58:13 AM12/5/02
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You are correct Mike,much of my Family has said those same words regarding
the "art" of Our People. I think "communication" has a large part to play in
our understanding and accepting of one another...that applies to all
Nations.
To the reference JAOM said about the selling of "bloodstone pipe"...his
words. Maybe if you were to e-mail ,we can talk of it.

The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

"Mike" <MikePu...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Lynne883

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>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Wayne George" wa...@turtleback.net
>Date: 12/5/2002 8:53 AM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <ALJH9.38775$Qr.7...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>

>Lynne883...I never said that you "suugested" I go somewhere.. My comment was
>in reference to Wolvbtch tellng me I should go to
>"Alt.Wannabeewitches"........
>And I said..."When anyone tells me I should go here or there..I say Fuck
>You"...
>Now,I'm sure you would say the same thing if anyone suggested you should go
>somewhere..perhaps not in those words.
>
>As for my words that were meant to cut to the bone.."as you put it"...When
>anyone talks to me as if they know something about me..using
>assumptions...and speaking down to me..I give back in kind.
>
>My point is simple...........
>be nice to me...I be nice to you. That is what I say to any who I meet in
>this life...I'm still trying to understand the life on the internet..
>I don't always read what is in the News Group...because I am busy raising a
>GrandDaughter and trying to be a good Husband..and have time to "try and
>understand the artist in me"..yes there are many other things I do in this
>life...and when someone from this "News Group"...puts there face in mine and
>"tell" me I'm wrong...I step back and look at what it is they say is
>wrong...Then I speak...nd somtimes what comes out is wrong or it is right,or
>half of one or the other.
>
>My choice is to stay here
>
>The Smiling Crow :-)
>Anishinabek artist
>~~~~
>

OK....

wolvbtch

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Dec 5, 2002, 6:02:45 PM12/5/02
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ah...here you say fuck you to me????
before you only said kiss your red ass...
and wonder why i have no respect for you....
the red ass comment in defense of a one who had no business
"teaching" us witch ways???
you should read what you write, wayne...
you forget what you *CLAIM* to be...
i still say, you wish to defend that which cannot be defended, you
still wish to wallow in your fantasy of a groupie following of new age
fools, you still say that i should kiss your red ass for not accepting
that which cannot be accepted?
i still say to you go with those ones to what ever place...
that stuff does not belong with indian people...maybe you forgot
that..or maybe you never knew it, eh?

no indian will ever kiss your goddamn fat red ass over witch craft...
now, i say back to you, you foolish child, fuck you!!!!
you have no family, you have no teachings..that is your problem...

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<ALJH9.38775$Qr.7...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Wayne George

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Dec 5, 2002, 6:27:15 PM12/5/02
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To "Wolvbtch"..without malice.

"wolvbtch" <wolv...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com...
> ah...here you say fuck you to me????
I NEVER SAID "FUCK YOU" TO YOU......

> before you only said kiss your red ass...
I NEVER ASKED YOU TO KISS MY RED ASS.....

> and wonder why i have no respect for you....
I NEVER WONDERED NO SUCH THING FROM ANY HERE...I NEVER ASK FOR "RESPECT"FROM
ANYONE.

> the red ass comment in defense of a one who had no business
> "teaching" us witch ways???
WHAT YOU MAY LEARN FROM ME..IS NOT A WITCH THING....AS FAR AS I AM
CONCERNED...THE WORD "WITCH" IS JUST THAT "A WORD".

> you should read what you write, wayne...
> you forget what you *CLAIM* to be...
I DO NOT CLAIM TO BE ANYTHING...WAKE UP..

> i still say, you wish to defend that which cannot be defended, you
> still wish to wallow in your fantasy of a groupie following of new age
> fools, you still say that i should kiss your red ass for not accepting
> that which cannot be accepted?
I DO NOT FOLLOW ANY PERSON.. "INDIAN OR NONE-INDIAN"

> i still say to you go with those ones to what ever place...
> that stuff does not belong with indian people...maybe you forgot
> that..or maybe you never knew it, eh?
NOW...YOU REALLY DO NEED TO WAKE UP.....

>
> no indian will ever kiss your goddamn fat red ass over witch craft...
MY RED ASS IN SKINNY...NOT FAT.....

> now, i say back to you, you foolish child, fuck you!!!!
YES I AM A CHILD..ND CAN RUN FASTER THAN YOU....

> you have no family, you have no teachings..that is your problem...
YOU ARE MY FAMILY...SO,TEACH ME.....

I WILL YELL NO MORE...... p.s. our friend has made "peace" his with me,so I
suggest that
this "problem" you speak of...is not mine to hold.

wolvbtch

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Dec 5, 2002, 6:49:32 PM12/5/02
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oh, yes...
you can always tell women to "kiss your red ass" or "fuck you", if
they do not accept your witches, eh?
now THAT is communication...
true indian communication...NOT!!!!

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<9QJH9.107750$ea.18...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Lridge164

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:15:17 PM12/5/02
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In article <uoRG9.23671$Qr.4...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>, "Wayne George"
<wa...@turtleback.net> writes:

>Hi Kerstin..here it looks like you think "Lridge164" wrote this..when it was
>Wayne george"The Smiling Crow ".
>Was wondering where you found "Lridge164" ????
>
>The Smiling Crow :-)
>Anuishinabek artist
>~~~~

kerstin found me on da outside of da click, a readin' all dis & a laffin'..:>)

Wolvbtch

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:18:06 PM12/5/02
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kerstin found ya sitting on my lap...where you belong...lol...ya old coot...

>From: lridge164

>
>kerstin found me on da outside of da click, a readin' all dis & a
>laffin'..:>)

Wolvbtch

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Dec 5, 2002, 9:35:41 PM12/5/02
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found lridge sitting on the rock you were under...

>From: lridge164

>>Was wondering where you found "Lridge164" ????
>>
>>The Smiling Crow :-)
>>Anuishinabek artist
>>~~~~
>
>kerstin found me on da outside of da click, a readin' all dis & a
>laffin'..:>)
>
>
>
>
>
>

wolvbtch

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Dec 5, 2002, 10:43:48 PM12/5/02
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you miserable little pissant...
you tell ANY old indian woman to kiss your *red*, ( more likely
pinkish), ass and see what it gets you...
walk up, to the face, in person, in real life, to ANY indian woman,
and say what you have said to me, over your little wichcraft groupie,
and see where you land...
better yet..walk up to me, you miserable little asshole...i will wrap
my cane around your miserable little neck...i will even give you
directions...if you could ever follow them!!! it will NOT be on your
feet...
you tell me to "fuck you"??? you tawdry piece of shit!!!
you miserable little witch ass sniffing twatneck nippledrip..
just who the hell do you think you are???
i was here on alt native before you were even thought of thinking
about CLAIMING you were "injun"...
get over to where you can find your miserable little witchcraft
commune. where you can be more than a "*cyberelder* in training"...
uh huh..you miserable little asshole...just because you said that
YEARS ago, you think i forgot???? go sell your your twinki
shit...pipes, *indeed*..
no, i have not forgot THAT, either...
don't fuck with me, you miserable little shit...
*fuck* being YOUR word...
you asshole!!!
you miserable asshole...you have pissed me off no end!!!

"Wayne George" <wa...@turtleback.net> wrote in message news:<ALJH9.38775$Qr.7...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>...

Jan

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Dec 5, 2002, 11:54:02 PM12/5/02
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You too? :)

puma...@aol.com (Pumaclaw) wrote in message news:<20021205004249...@mb-da.aol.com>...

kate

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"Jan" <keg...@martnet.com> wrote in message
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> You too? :)

*Me three. *growl* ;)

Pumaclaw

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Dec 6, 2002, 12:33:57 AM12/6/02
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Heck, just buy the White House and move one of our own folks in there.


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: "Lane Baldwin" la...@bluethunder.org

>Date: 12/5/2002 6:32 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <asnjl3$rfm$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>

Pumaclaw

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Dec 6, 2002, 12:37:04 AM12/6/02
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Dang, ain't he the gentleman of the day, aaye? Wonder what rock he crawled out
from under.

>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: wolv...@aol.com (wolvbtch)
>Date: 12/5/2002 4:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com>

Pumaclaw

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Dec 6, 2002, 12:38:38 AM12/6/02
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Yeah, George, maybe not in those words, you got it.

>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: wolv...@aol.com (wolvbtch)

>Date: 12/5/2002 8:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com>
>

David Wiersema

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Dec 6, 2002, 12:07:58 PM12/6/02
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Pumaclaw,

Can you please stand down? It is obviouse that Wolfy and Wayne have had a
missunderstanding and need to work through it themselves. They do not need people
from the side stiring things up any. I have a lot of respect for each of them,
and have no doubt that they will work through this to a amiable end, if they are
given time and space for clear communication. Us getting in the way will not help
the issue.

Regards,

David Wiersema

Lynne883

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Dec 6, 2002, 1:22:23 PM12/6/02
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>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: lrid...@aol.com (Lridge164)
>Date: 12/5/2002 8:15 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <20021205211517...@mb-fj.aol.com>

>kerstin found me on da outside of da click, a readin' all dis & a
>laffin'..:>)

Hehehe....aw Ridge...come on in, it's cold outside!!!!

Lynne883

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Dec 6, 2002, 1:23:20 PM12/6/02
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>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: wolv...@aol.comnope (Wolvbtch)
>Date: 12/5/2002 8:18 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <20021205211806...@mb-fi.aol.com>

>kerstin found ya sitting on my lap...where you belong...lol...ya old coot...

Whaaaaaahahahaha....*snort laughing* Behave yourself Wolfie!

Pumaclaw

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Dec 6, 2002, 2:06:46 PM12/6/02
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David, do NOT sit here and tell me what is a mere misunderstanding and what is
a foul-mouthed outrageous insult. Moreover, do NOT try to dictate to me which
discussions I may enter. Having said this, I shall overlook your faux pas this
time but keep this in mind for the future, okay?


>Subject: Re: Apology
>From: David Wiersema davidN...@tiNOT.com
>Date: 12/6/2002 10:07 AM US Mountain Standard Time
>Message-id: <3DF0D96E...@tiNOT.com>

Lridge164

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Dec 6, 2002, 3:07:59 PM12/6/02
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In article <20021205211806...@mb-fi.aol.com>, wolv...@aol.comnope
(Wolvbtch) writes:

>kerstin found ya sitting on my lap...where you belong...lol...ya old coot...
>
>>From: lridge164
>
>>
>>kerstin found me on da outside of da click, a readin' all dis & a
>>laffin'..:>)
>

of course yes, sweet thang....

Lridge164

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Dec 6, 2002, 3:07:58 PM12/6/02
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In article <efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com>, wolv...@aol.com
(wolvbtch) writes:


i dont wanna fan da flames, but dat's a classic & should be preserved in da
archives....backin' slowly outta heah wit both hands up & palms turned
outwards....lol

Kerstin

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Dec 6, 2002, 3:45:15 PM12/6/02
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"Lridge164" <lrid...@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:20021205211517...@mb-fj.aol.com...

First I say hello to the smiling crow.
Hmm.... something is wrong here. LOL. I can“t read Waynes message here.
It does not appear on my monitor. Sorry for the whole mess here. :)

Kerstin


David Wiersema

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Dec 6, 2002, 3:39:59 PM12/6/02
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Pumaclaw,

I am sorry if I upset you. I am definently not trying to tell you anything or
dictate anything to you. It was just a request to give these two human beings room
to work out thier difference. I do not understand what you mean by "faux pas" but
I am going to slowly back away with hands up and palms out. Am I doing this right
Lridge?

Lane Baldwin

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"Lridge164" <lrid...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021206150758...@mb-fs.aol.com...
: In article <efb755ea.02120...@posting.google.com>,
wolv...@aol.com
: (wolvbtch) writes:
:
: ><a major rant and a half>
: >
:
:
: i dont wanna fan da flames, but dat's a classic & should be preserved in

da
: archives....backin' slowly outta heah wit both hands up & palms turned
: outwards....lol

Might want to lower your eyes as well...as a sign of defference. 'Course,
then again, if you do that, you might miss her picking up the gun...

<running for cover>

Lane


Wolvbtch

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Dec 6, 2002, 4:20:42 PM12/6/02
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aw, mrs lridge knows i am too old to be any good for someone like the old
coot...lol..
the old coot ain't old...lol...

>From: lynne883

>
>Whaaaaaahahahaha....*snort laughing* Behave yourself Wolfie!

Wolvbtch

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Dec 6, 2002, 4:23:43 PM12/6/02
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aw...
my 2 sweethearts here need never worry..lol...

>From: "Lane Baldwin" la...@bluethunder.org

>
>"Lridge164" <lrid...@aol.com> wrote in message

>: i dont wanna fan da flames, but dat's a classic & should be preserved in


>da
>: archives....backin' slowly outta heah wit both hands up & palms turned
>: outwards....lol
>
>Might want to lower your eyes as well...as a sign of defference. 'Course,
>then again, if you do that, you might miss her picking up the gun...
>
><running for cover>
>
>Lane

Wayne George

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Dec 6, 2002, 4:37:13 PM12/6/02
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As "a part of the flame"...Lridge164, I feel obliged to tell you that ,and
read carefully here..."All that we post on these computers..DOES BECOME
ARCHIVED for future reference...so someone can and will always bring up
your past words and "put them in your face to read"..anyone.....
once you hit the send button..it's there for eternity to read.....
Hope you don't miss quote me and say I said you are part of the "flame" fan
club..I'm sure your better than that.


The Smiling Crow :-)
Anishinabek artist
~~~~

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