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Tom

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May 24, 2012, 8:15:34 AM5/24/12
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The letters editor of the Daily Mail, London, seems to take a wicked
delight in occasionally allowing a glimmer of reality to shine through
into print.

On May 22, 2012, we were allowed to read the following.

==========================================
“So a ‘shocked wife’ didn’t like her husband viewing online porn. It’s
always men who are perverts, isn’t it? After years of marriage they
suddenly start wanting to watch porn - apparently.
Let’s look at the facts: within five years of the start of any
relationship, the woman withholds or abandons lovemaking. The man
continues to provide for the household in terms of income support,
while the woman increasingly moans about her lot.
The man is decried as useless and sex-mad for wanting sex with the
woman he loves while working hard to support her and any children they
might have.
Eventually he accepts the situation and tries to gain meagre
satisfaction from images of women who apparently enjoy sex (he knows
it’s not real - he only has to look at his wife to know that), but
this displeases the woman.
It isn’t enough that she withholds intimacy from the man she
supposedly loves, she doesn’t want him to obtain any comfort from any
other source either.
The man, who chased and wooed her and loves her and works hard for
her, still desires her. If you turn him down, he will eventually go
elsewhere. If you’re lucky it’s porn; if you’re not, it’s another
woman. (-Mark Fox, Shropshire.)”
==========================================

Many men have had that sad experience.
That man said it’s after FIVE YEARS that the woman grows cold and
withholds lovemaking. But it could happen only six months into a
marriage.

If there are children, and if the man feels a sense of responsibility
toward them, it’s difficult to get away from such a woman until the
kids are grown.

The wife’s withholding of lovemaking is declared by society to be
beyond criticism.
The man will be demonised no matter what he says or does (as in Hilary
Clinton’s refusal to perform fellatio on Bill).

And what hurts the husband most of all is the fact that throughout
such times, the wife keeps repeating - parrot fashion - the cruel
words: “I love you,” while the husband just looks at her in
bewilderment and blinks and remains silent and then looks sideways at
the wall as she keeps repeating those dreaded words: “I love you.”

I had that experience with a woman in Leeds a long time ago. Blink
blink; jaw drops; mouth open; but speechless; no use in answering her;
she’s scatterbrained; eyes left toward the wall until she shuts up and
goes away and stops speaking those curse words which hurt a man so
much, the words “I love you.”

That’s what hurts a man most of all - to hear a scatterbrained woman
repeatedly parroting the words “I love you” when she can’t even begin
to understand what love is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4awCZr7GwY&feature=related


Ophelia

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May 24, 2012, 8:32:26 AM5/24/12
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"Tom" <special...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am so sorry you had that:( We are not all the same.
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The Todal

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May 24, 2012, 8:43:57 AM5/24/12
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And those women who complain (in print or elsewhere) about their
husband's pornography habit generally seem to be those who would like a
frequent sexual relationship with their husband but find that he prefers
to withhold his favours. Which leads to feelings of insecurity about not
being as attractive as the models on the screen.


Ophelia

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May 24, 2012, 8:50:45 AM5/24/12
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"The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message
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I will have to take your word for that. Is my (happy) marriage so unusual?

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Big Les Wade

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May 24, 2012, 8:57:02 AM5/24/12
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The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> posted
>And those women who complain (in print or elsewhere) about their
>husband's pornography habit generally seem to be those who would like a
>frequent sexual relationship with their husband but find that he
>prefers to withhold his favours.

Is that a fact?

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The Todal

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May 24, 2012, 9:02:39 AM5/24/12
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You don't need to take my word for it - I am merely giving the gist of
the sort of letters I see on the problem pages of the Daily Mail.

Nobody really knows whether their own marriage is typical or unusual, do
they? I have heard it said by many men that once you get married,
neither of you wants much sex. In fact one man who said that to me was
divorced within six months - his wife found somebody else.

The Todal

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May 24, 2012, 9:03:31 AM5/24/12
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A fact or a lie. Could be either.

Bod

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May 24, 2012, 9:11:38 AM5/24/12
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Well there's at least two of us :-), we are in our 42nd year of a
(happy) marriage, Ophelia.

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steve robinson

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May 24, 2012, 9:13:28 AM5/24/12
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Old bastard ;)

Ophelia

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"Bod" <bodr...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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I am very pleased to hear it:)

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Phi

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May 24, 2012, 9:19:19 AM5/24/12
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Why get married and destroy a good friendship ?

Jethro_uk

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May 24, 2012, 9:20:18 AM5/24/12
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Isn't that all of them ?

The Todal

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May 24, 2012, 9:38:55 AM5/24/12
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I'm in the 25th year of an *extremely* happy marriage. Length isn't
everything, you know.

Norman Wells

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May 24, 2012, 9:41:13 AM5/24/12
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Bod wrote:

> Well there's at least two of us :-), we are in our 42nd year of a
> (happy) marriage, Ophelia.

I always thought there was something between you and Ophelia. Now we
know! But why do you have to communicate with her through a newsgroup?
Do you have separate bedrooms?


kat

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May 24, 2012, 9:54:25 AM5/24/12
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Bod <bodr...@tiscali.co.uk> said
It was our ruby anniversary last Sunday. We had a lovely weekend away with
the family.


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Ophelia

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"Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote in message
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> Why get married and destroy a good friendship ?

Well ... the kids appreciate it <g>

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Ophelia

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"The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message
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That is what all men say ... ;o)

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Ophelia

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"kat" <little...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Congratulations, kat and Mr kat :)))))))))))))
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The Todal

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May 24, 2012, 10:15:04 AM5/24/12
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And I hope the cittens are all well. :)

totallyconfused

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May 24, 2012, 10:31:34 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 1:50 pm, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
> "The Todal" <deadmail...@beeb.net> wrote in message
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> > On 24/5/12 13:32, Ophelia wrote:
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> >> "Tom" <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Clearly O we must be odd...my parents are still happy after almost 48
years.


My mother almost crashed the car once....she was driving my gran to
the shops. Somehow 'sex' came up. My gran said, 'Well you know how
it is when you get older....it's more about companionship than the
physical...so we have cut it down to about 3 or 4 times a
week.' (And that was about 20 years ago- my grandparents in their
70's)

I remind my other half of this when he moans about 'only getting it' 2
or 3 times a week.

TC

Ophelia

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"totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I will have to take your word for that. Is my (happy) marriage so
>> unusual?
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>
> Clearly O we must be odd...my parents are still happy after almost 48
> years.
>
>
> My mother almost crashed the car once....she was driving my gran to
> the shops. Somehow 'sex' came up. My gran said, 'Well you know how
> it is when you get older....it's more about companionship than the
> physical...so we have cut it down to about 3 or 4 times a
> week.' (And that was about 20 years ago- my grandparents in their
> 70's)
>
> I remind my other half of this when he moans about 'only getting it' 2
> or 3 times a week.

Cynic

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May 24, 2012, 2:24:01 PM5/24/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 13:43:57 +0100, The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net>
wrote:

>And those women who complain (in print or elsewhere) about their
>husband's pornography habit generally seem to be those who would like a
>frequent sexual relationship with their husband but find that he prefers
>to withhold his favours. Which leads to feelings of insecurity about not
>being as attractive as the models on the screen.

What about the relationships where both the man and woman enjoy
watching porn together while having sex?

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kat

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May 24, 2012, 5:15:42 PM5/24/12
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Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk> said
Thankyou.:-)


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>^..^<


kat

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May 24, 2012, 5:18:33 PM5/24/12
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Ophelia <Oph...@elsinore.me.uk> said
> "The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message

>> I'm in the 25th year of an *extremely* happy marriage. Length isn't
>> everything, you know.
>
> That is what all men say ... ;o)
>

You took the words right out of my fingers, there.:-)

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kat

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The Todal <deadm...@beeb.net> said
The cittens are very well thankyou as is the grandcitten. Though the oldest
citten is getting tired as she is close to having another one.


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kat

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Cynic <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> said
I assume the man is no much compared with those on screen, either. Women
can compare too.:-)


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Ophelia

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"kat" <little...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Coolcitten:)))))
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Ophelia

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"kat" <little...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<g>
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Ophelia

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"kat" <little...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Indeed we can!!!

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conway caine

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"kat" wrote in message news:a27mtn...@mid.individual.net...

>> I'm in the 25th year of an *extremely* happy marriage. Length isn't
>> everything, you know.
>
> That is what all men say ... ;o)


*****Women as well.
If you are speaking of length of marriage.

Cynic

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May 25, 2012, 1:29:09 PM5/25/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:20:19 +0100, "kat" <little...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>> And those women who complain (in print or elsewhere) about their
>>> husband's pornography habit generally seem to be those who would
>>> like a frequent sexual relationship with their husband but find that
>>> he prefers to withhold his favours. Which leads to feelings of
>>> insecurity about not being as attractive as the models on the screen.

>> What about the relationships where both the man and woman enjoy
>> watching porn together while having sex?

>I assume the man is no much compared with those on screen, either. Women
>can compare too.:-)

I know full well they can and do. However, I have it on good
authority that many women who enjoy seeing a well-endowed actor in
such a film would rather not have to actually accomodate such a
member.

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conway caine

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"Cynic" wrote in message news:4fbfc0ad...@127.0.0.1...
****Are we becoming a Johnny Wadd fan club????

kat

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Cynic <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> said
Is that the only thing you think we might look at?


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>^..^<



conway caine

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"kat" wrote in message news:a2ibfg...@mid.individual.net...



Is that the only thing you think we might look at?

*****There is always the Irish Times..............

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

>
> Is that the only thing you think we might look at?
>
> *****There is always the Irish Times..............

Guy's hate Fag's calling them Tricksters, Women hate them because of the
Competition!
They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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***Fisticuffs????

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
>
> conway caine wrote:
>
> >
> > Is that the only thing you think we might look at?
> >
> > *****There is always the Irish Times..............
>
> Guy's hate Fag's calling them Tricksters, Women hate them because of the
> Competition!
> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
>
> ***Fisticuffs????

Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!

spiritrising

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May 31, 2012, 8:56:12 AM5/31/12
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i'm more concerned about people loving ewes

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
>
> ***Fisticuffs????

Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!

****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.

conway caine

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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:

i'm more concerned about people loving ewes

***At last, an on topic posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Universal Infant

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May 31, 2012, 10:07:06 AM5/31/12
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On a serious note, someone mentioned that a husband and wife may view
pornography together.
You have to take an intelligent approach to this.
Make a compilation of fragments from available porn that women can
find acceptable.
Amateur / home made is often the most acceptable to women.

My co-carer loves a fifteen minute extract from a Kitty Fox interlude
in her 'Totally Tasteless Videos' series.
We view it frequently in bed and never get tired of it.
Kitty Fox was the greatest ever. I wish she'd been my mother.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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May 31, 2012, 11:55:26 PM5/31/12
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Ewe's, be different den Billy Goats wid Tits!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
>
> conway caine wrote:
>
> > They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >
> > ***Fisticuffs????
>
> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
>
> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.

Ain't Crazy or Stupid, to fight Palins idea of Tit's in a Bikini sporting
Tactical, leading an army of Joe Six Pack and the Skin Heads in a
Revolutionary March to take Alaska as the new Homeland of the Aryan Nation!
My Duty to stand against those who want to return America to the vision of
the Bible Thumping Hunters.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "spiritrising" wrote in message
>
> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
> i'm more concerned about people loving ewes
>
> ***At last, an on topic posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cept I didn't write a thing posted in your reply!


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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The Universal Infant wrote:

> On a serious note, someone mentioned that a husband and wife may view
> pornography together.

Even if the Church say's NO?
Sin's of the Heart!

Norman Wells

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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
Good grief! I had thought your projected illiteracy was an affectation.
Now I know it's for real.

spiritrising

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Jun 1, 2012, 9:16:26 AM6/1/12
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if your speaking in a crowd how would one know the difference? my wife
says those words all the tim(i love you) and i always say " which sheep"

spiritrising

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Jun 1, 2012, 9:17:30 AM6/1/12
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at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!

spiritrising

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Jun 1, 2012, 9:19:05 AM6/1/12
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now if your speaking only of palin, i think guns can be used to solve
the problem, and quite possibly a backhoe to dig the hole to get rid of
the stink of her.

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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***Comments about people loving ewes is always on topic here on SCI.
So it's raise yer Wellies on high, gentle friends.

conway caine

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conway caine wrote:
>
>
> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> news:hPOdncOXO_3Lt1rS...@posted.gcicommunications...
>
>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
>>
>> ***Fisticuffs????
>
> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
>
> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.

at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!

******And while you sleep, what then?????

spiritrising

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38special with wadcutters does the job

spiritrising

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anyway when i say slave she says yes master, i figure today's men
haven't figured out how to do that yet.

ala

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"The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message
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>
> And those women who complain (in print or elsewhere) about their husband's
> pornography habit generally seem to be those who would like a frequent
> sexual relationship with their husband but find that he prefers to
> withhold his favours. Which leads to feelings of insecurity about not
> being as attractive as the models on the screen.
>
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/mar/21/double-imprisonment-battered-women
The Double Imprisonment of Battered Women
By Sadhbh Walshe, Guardian UK
23 March 12


a few years ago, a young woman named Natasha shot and killed her boyfriend
in the apartment they were sharing. He had trapped her in the bedroom and
was about to launch into another of what had become weekly "beatdowns",
where he would hit her with a closed fist. Prior to the killing, the
beatings had become more severe and more frequent, as were the threats that
he was going to kill her. None of this seemed to count for much at her
trial.

Natasha was charged with second-degree murder and criminal possession of a
firearm (which was her boyfriend's) and was ultimately convicted of
manslaughter. She was given a 15-year sentence and is now in prison, along
with countless other battered women who found little protection from the
criminal justice system when they needed it, but who felt the full force of
its prosecutorial might when they took steps to protect themselves.

Every state in America has a self-defense law that allows an individual to
use deadly force in situations where a threat to his or her well-being is
imminent. If an intruder enters your home with a loaded gun, thereby posing
an imminent threat to your life, you're allowed to use deadly force to
protect yourself. When the intruder with the loaded gun (metaphorical or
otherwise) is your intimate partner and living in the house with you, the
imminence law frequently fails to apply – mostly because of the perception
that the abused woman could have, or at least should have, found a more
palatable way of ending the violent relationship.

I asked Natasha, in a letter, if there were other options available to her
to escape the abuse, short of gunning the guy down. She replied as follows:

"You asked if there was any other way to get away from [the boyfriend]. At
the time I pulled the trigger, I didn't think so. He'd cornered me in a
small bedroom with no way out except maybe jumping out a glass window or
simply undergoing yet another beatdown. He was fond of beating me, then
forcing me to perform oral sex on him right away. If my lips were bloody,
he'd force himself into my rectum. All of this, and then some, was entered
into the record at the psych evaluation."

Like many abused women, Natasha had made several attempts to escape the
relationship, only to be brought back [by the boyfriend] to face harsher
beatings and more death threats. Yet this failure to escape, or failure to
meet the "duty to retreat", is one of the main reasons that the self-defense
argument often does not work for women who kill because they think they are
in danger of being killed. The presumption is that a woman who is in a
violent relationship, and whose life has been threatened, should simply walk
away. In theory, it sounds like a piece of cake: just leave when he's
asleep, or at work, or whatever.

Reality is a lot more complicated.

Advocates for battered women cite four main reasons why they tend to not be
able to get away: the police and courts offer little substantial protection
(restraining orders and such are about as effective as the paper they're
written on, when it comes to deterring a determined batterer); shelters are
often full; leaving is financially impossible, especially when there are
children involved; and, finally, the women know, better than anyone, that he
will track her down and the violence will be even worse. In fact, women who
leave their batterers are statistically more likely to be killed than women
who stay.

Michael Dowd, a New York attorney dubbed the "black widow lawyer" for having
successfully defended a number of women who killed their abusive partners,
likens a battered woman's predicament to a hostage situation. Dowd has
"represented women whose lives in homes with abusive men were as dangerous
and hopeless as living in cell in Beirut being guarded by terrorists." But,
he writes, "if a hostage was told he would be killed the next day, we would
applaud the strangling of a sleeping guard in an effort to escape." A woman
who kills her husband in the wake of a similar threat is far more likely to
greeted with the clanking of the jailers' keys than with a round of
applause.

Tom

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On Jun 1, 5:01 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
---------------------------------------------

Yeah I know. The orthodox teaching of holy mother church is that ye'll
go straight t' hell when ye die if ye commit adultery of the heart by
lusting after a woman.

The problem with that is that if men don't lust after women the human
race will cease to exist.

Answer that, Mr Pope and Mr Jeeeaayyyyzizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

conway caine

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conway caine wrote:
>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
>> news:hPOdncOXO_3Lt1rS...@posted.gcicommunications...
>>
>>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
>>>
>>> ***Fisticuffs????
>>
>> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
>>
>> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
>> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
>
> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
>
> ******And while you sleep, what then?????

38special with wadcutters does the job

******Some defense.
While you are snoring, the wife gongs you with the cast iron skillet.
(I'm speaking from experience here)

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:
>>
>> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
>> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
>
> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
>
> ******And while you sleep, what then?????

anyway when i say slave she says yes master, i figure today's men
haven't figured out how to do that yet.

****Bold speech!!
Now show this message to the wife.

conway caine

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"Tom" wrote in message
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On Jun 1, 5:01 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

Yeah I know. The orthodox teaching of holy mother church is that ye'll
go straight t' hell when ye die if ye commit adultery of the heart by
lusting after a woman.

*****Got a cite on that???

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Yep, same as yours!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> >
> > spiritrising wrote:
> >
> >> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> conway caine wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>> conway caine wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is that the only thing you think we might look at?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *****There is always the Irish Times..............
> >>>>
> >>>> Guy's hate Fag's calling them Tricksters, Women hate them because of the
> >>>> Competition!
> >>>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>>>
> >>>> ***Fisticuffs????
> >>>
> >>> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >>>
> >>
> >> i'm more concerned about people loving ewes
> >
> > Ewe's, be different den Billy Goats wid Tits!
> >
> if your speaking in a crowd how would one know the difference?

Especially when someone wants to Mis-Translate something.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> > >
> >
> >
> > conway caine wrote:
> >
> >> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>
> >> ***Fisticuffs????
> >
> > Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >
> > ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> > fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
>
> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!

She won't dump your bed pan afterwards!
Or, will she?

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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No, she ain't alone!
Joe Six Pack, and the Skin Heads when she First Started, wasn't a Joke, but
someone sure got her to change the song real fast to "Joe the Plumber"!
We the People are an Identified branch of the Aryan Nation, and are using Posse
Manifesto, to "Incite" a Revolution!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
>
> conway caine wrote:
>
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
> >
> > Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> > i'm more concerned about people loving ewes
> >
> > ***At last, an on topic posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Cept I didn't write a thing posted in your reply!
>
> ***Comments about people loving ewes is always on topic here

NP, just shouldn't post other Peoples stuff in a reply, with out using
Something they Wrote!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "spiritrising" wrote in message
>
> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> > >
> >> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>
> >> ***Fisticuffs????
> >
> > Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >
> > ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> > fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
>
> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
>
> ******And while you sleep, what then?????

Depends on why she is Mad Enough to assault you in your sleep!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
> >
> > conway caine wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> >> >>
> >>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>>
> >>> ***Fisticuffs????
> >>
> >> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >>
> >> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> >> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
> >
> > at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
> >
> > ******And while you sleep, what then?????
>
> 38special with wadcutters does the job

Yeah, just hope Yours is the Finger on the Trigger!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
> >
> > conway caine wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> >> >>
> >>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>>
> >>> ***Fisticuffs????
> >>
> >> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >>
> >> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> >> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
> >
> > at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
> >
> > ******And while you sleep, what then?????
>
> anyway when i say slave she says yes master, i figure today's men
> haven't figured out how to do that yet.

Only works If She is willing, otherwise that ain't no Man talking!
Biggest Obstacle in a Gay Relationship is even an Alpha Beta, has Male Ego
Trips!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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ala wrote:

> "The Todal" <deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message
>
> Michael Dowd, a New York attorney dubbed the "black widow lawyer" for having
> successfully defended a number of women who killed their abusive partners,
> likens a battered woman's predicament to a hostage situation. Dowd has
> "represented women whose lives in homes with abusive men were as dangerous
> and hopeless as living in cell in Beirut being guarded by terrorists." But,
> he writes, "if a hostage was told he would be killed the next day, we would
> applaud the strangling of a sleeping guard in an effort to escape." A woman
> who kills her husband in the wake of a similar threat is far more likely to
> greeted with the clanking of the jailers' keys than with a round of
> applause.

Sorta Kinda!
Religious Moral's, and Male Chauvinism!
Woman still have a Long way to go, in many places to get Equality, Hermies and Fag's even more so!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Sure say's a LOT of GOOD OLDE BOYS, are GOING TO HELL, like it or not!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "spiritrising" wrote in message
>
> conway caine wrote:
> >> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> >> >>
> >>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>>
> >>> ***Fisticuffs????
> >>
> >> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >>
> >> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> >> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
> >
> > at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
> >
> > ******And while you sleep, what then?????
>
> 38special with wadcutters does the job
>
> ******Some defense.
> While you are snoring, the wife gongs you with the cast iron skillet.
> (I'm speaking from experience here)

She short Sheet ya too?
Or like Willie Nelson's, wife, she Sew ya up in the sheets first!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "Tom" wrote in message
>
> On Jun 1, 5:01 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
>
> Yeah I know. The orthodox teaching of holy mother church is that ye'll
> go straight t' hell when ye die if ye commit adultery of the heart by
> lusting after a woman.
>
> *****Got a cite on that???

Didn't write it, go ask the person who did!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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conway caine wrote:

> "Tom" wrote in message
>
> On Jun 1, 5:01 am, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"
>
> Yeah I know. The orthodox teaching of holy mother church is that ye'll
> go straight t' hell when ye die if ye commit adultery of the heart by
> lusting after a woman.
>
> *****Got a cite on that???

The Catholic Church got a Bunch of em, Mortal Sin to Waste your Seed!
Besides, in "Lusting in the Heart", you send Telepathic Signal!

Norman Wells

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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:

> She short Sheet ya too?
> Or like Willie Nelson's, wife, she Sew ya up in the sheets first!

Good grief. Someone please tell me when half-term is over and they all
go back to school.

ala

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
message news:DIKdnZwxFLHBcFfS...@posted.gcicommunications...
soil redistribution project is complete
>

ala

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
message news:5I6dnYERR8Yyb1fS...@posted.gcicommunications...
speaking of such things
Sophia is the number one names for girls this year,
>

spiritrising

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i am a vietnam vet slight breeze will wake me, even a cricket or a
single drip of water, if you knew my wife she walks like an elephant and
we have wood floors, and i don't snore! yep wadcutters it is...doesn't
matter anyway i keep telling her about the crocs and piranna out in the
rivers and her disappearing. did i mention the steel plate in my scull?
yep i have it covered! when i am on walk-a-bout helping natives, i get
very little sleep because the critters just won't shut up.

spiritrising

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i get a kick out of the young men, us older guys have it made with our
slaves at home

spiritrising

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Jun 3, 2012, 9:19:42 AM6/3/12
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i sleep that way, we have critters here that will kill ewe and it ain't
a woman. shit even one of our lowly spiders will put ewe in the grave.

spiritrising

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Jun 3, 2012, 9:32:42 AM6/3/12
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tell you what i will do, later today i'll make a video of me calling her
slave and her calling me master, so then what? i am an indian, its my
culture and she wanted to be part of it, that was the conditions of her
getting to be with me, my way or the highway. her choice! and she is
still around, but then being that way, she gets anything she wants, one
christmas a 4,000dollar diamond ring set, last christmas a $2,700
portable piano. if she sees something in a store she can whip the card
out and buy it, no problem. there is more to being a slave than most
realize. and she always has a smile on her face....did i tell you she is
29 years my junior? yep a house slave!

spiritrising

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Jun 3, 2012, 9:33:24 AM6/3/12
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yeah i am a lesbian i hate men.

spiritrising

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she helps me put on my socks and shoes after coming in from the jungle
and i am sore as can be, she puts lotion on my back and a whole lot of
other things, and does it with a smile. i don't use a bed pan, be quite
a few years before it gets there, her reward in the end? a home free and
clear, everything material she could think about, and close to a million
in the bank and a new way to think about things.

spiritrising

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Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
>
>
equality...'who defines it?' or should i say 'who has the right to
define it?' does that equality include the woman's right to a bigger
dick than her husband or what? equality is the wrong word to use. use to
be a gynecologist, and yes i have met every type of woman, some may not
want what your looking for, some may, so like i say equality is the
wrong word to define the differences or to make them equal

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

>
> ***Comments about people loving ewes is always on topic here

NP, just shouldn't post other Peoples stuff in a reply, with out using
Something they Wrote!

****Rules?
On a post which includes SCI??

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

>
> ******And while you sleep, what then?????

Depends on why she is Mad Enough to assault you in your sleep!

****Mess with them long enough and they will get mad enough..............

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

She short Sheet ya too?
Or like Willie Nelson's, wife, she Sew ya up in the sheets first!


****That brought back memories of my Army days.

conway caine

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"Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
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***Sorry 'bout that............

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:
>
> anyway when i say slave she says yes master, i figure today's men
> haven't figured out how to do that yet.
>
> ****Bold speech!!
> Now show this message to the wife.

tell you what i will do, later today i'll make a video of me calling her
slave and her calling me master, so then what?

****Then someone needs to alert us as to where and when the services will be
conducted

i am an indian, its my culture

****Which Nation?
(And were I you, I'd not be marrying a Cherokee. Matrilineal society, don't
you know? Plus, they can get mean as hell when angered)

Herman

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On May 24, 8:15 am, Tom <special.car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The letters editor of the Daily Mail, London, seems to take a wicked
> delight in occasionally allowing a glimmer of reality to shine through
> into print.
>
> On May 22, 2012, we were allowed to read the following.
>
> ==========================================
> “So a ‘shocked wife’ didn’t like her husband viewing online porn.


A lot of people loved Hitler and Stalin as well.

Millions, in fact.


Online porn is protected under the First Amendment, which doesn't
protect "Fighting words", "Incitement to riot" or "Seditious
conspiracy" or "Threats to harm or of death".

All those restrictions are good things, but they usually don't meet
the test of the Judiciary. Save for the latter.

spiritrising

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fuck a bunch of cherokee, they are so mixed they are almost black, i'm
blackfoot

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
news:478c8$4fccb3a8$adbe93e2$32...@ALLTEL.NET...

conway caine wrote:
>
> i am an indian, its my culture
>
> ****Which Nation?
> (And were I you, I'd not be marrying a Cherokee. Matrilineal society,
> don't you know? Plus, they can get mean as hell when angered)

fuck a bunch of cherokee, they are so mixed they are almost black

****Not far wrong.
The Cherokee are sort of a United Nations, seeing's how they were pretty
liberal accepting outsiders into the nation.
Been that way for hundreds of years.

, i'm blackfoot

****I can't recall the Blackfoot ever sending young warriors east on a
Cherokee f**king expedition.
Apparently the word on the military skills of the Kituawah had even spread
to your area.

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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When you decide to Grow Up!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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ala wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
> message

> > Yep, same as yours!
> >
> > Norman Wells wrote:
> >
> >> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >> > The Universal Infant wrote:

TY

>
> >> >
> >> >> On a serious note, someone mentioned that a husband and wife may view
> >> >> pornography together.
> >> >
> >> > Even if the Church say's NO?
> >> > Sin's of the Heart!
> >>
> >> Good grief! I had thought your projected illiteracy was an affectation.
> >> Now I know it's for real.
>
> soil redistribution project is complete
> >

People still use Manure today, to Fertilize their Fields!
The "Cup of Buddha, is Broken, yet filled"!!


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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ala wrote:

> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote in
> message >
> >
Believe it was "Jacob", for Boys!


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
> >
> > conway caine wrote:
> >>> "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" wrote in message
> >>> >>>
> >>>> They can fight another woman, but how do the fight a guy?
> >>>>
> >>>> ***Fisticuffs????
> >>>
> >>> Then We get in Trouble for Having the Balls to Fight with a Woman!
> >>>
> >>> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> >>> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
> >>
> >> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
> >>
> >> ******And while you sleep, what then?????
> >
> > 38special with wadcutters does the job
> >
> > ******Some defense.
> > While you are snoring, the wife gongs you with the cast iron skillet.
> > (I'm speaking from experience here)
> >
>
> i am a vietnam vet slight breeze will wake me, even a cricket or a
> single drip of water, if you knew my wife she walks like an elephant and
> we have wood floors, and i don't snore! yep wadcutters it is...doesn't
> matter anyway i keep telling her about the crocs and piranna out in the
> rivers and her disappearing. did i mention the steel plate in my scull?
> yep i have it covered! when i am on walk-a-bout helping natives, i get
> very little sleep because the critters just won't shut up.

Taser to the testies, the lil sucker curl up so hard, it'd never come out again!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:16:58 AM6/5/12
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35 Years in a Monogamous Relationship, and you wanna tell me about the Chauvinism
of "Older Men", and why I am just looking to put another Notch on my Zipper? ?

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Must be in Australia then!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> conway caine wrote:
> >
> >
> > "spiritrising" wrote in message
> >
> > conway caine wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ****Take it from an old married man, it's not balls that are required to
> >>> fight a woman. One need only take leave of his senses.
> >>
> >> at my age(71) i figure if one hits me i can defend myself!
> >>
> >> ******And while you sleep, what then?????
> >
> > anyway when i say slave she says yes master, i figure today's men
> > haven't figured out how to do that yet.
> >
> > ****Bold speech!!
> > Now show this message to the wife.
>
> tell you what i will do, later today i'll make a video of me calling her
> slave and her calling me master, so then what?

Lots of Masochists in the world!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:21:04 AM6/5/12
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I am a Hermaphrodite, (Sethian), born of SHE, who was the Queen of the Amazon's
Herself!
Ever notice SHEBA, is listed as a "SON" of Abraham!

Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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Jun 5, 2012, 2:22:09 AM6/5/12
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Long as the Legends aren't right!


Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole

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spiritrising wrote:

> Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole wrote:
> >
> >
> > ala wrote:
> >
> >> "The Todal"<deadm...@beeb.net> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Michael Dowd, a New York attorney dubbed the "black widow lawyer" for having
> >> successfully defended a number of women who killed their abusive partners,
> >> likens a battered woman's predicament to a hostage situation. Dowd has
> >> "represented women whose lives in homes with abusive men were as dangerous
> >> and hopeless as living in cell in Beirut being guarded by terrorists." But,
> >> he writes, "if a hostage was told he would be killed the next day, we would
> >> applaud the strangling of a sleeping guard in an effort to escape." A woman
> >> who kills her husband in the wake of a similar threat is far more likely to
> >> greeted with the clanking of the jailers' keys than with a round of
> >> applause.
> >
> > Sorta Kinda!
> > Religious Moral's, and Male Chauvinism!
> > Woman still have a Long way to go, in many places to get Equality, Hermies and Fag's even more so!
> >
>
> equality...'who defines it?'

Personal Opinion, Self Worth thing.
The Couple, even YOU have a Line you can NOT Cross with Her, or you haven't known her at all!

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