Republic of Lakotah. "And What of Annie Mae"
runningwolf
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In the paranoia, jockeying for position,and
individual power struggles that precipitated
the downward spiral of AIM during that time
she was falsely accused of being an informant.
An accusation that every one denounces now
while swearing to her great character and good
works-now she is everyone's sister.
I have one question-READ CAREFULLY-IT IS A
QUESTION-NOT AN ACCUSATION- it is one that
will be addressed as this unfolds and so I
ask it here: Annie Mae told several witnesses
who have stepped forward that at one point
Leonard Peltier had previously interrogated
herand stuck a gun in mouth during the course
of this interrogation-my question is who is
lying, Annie, her family and the witnesses
who are indigenous people, not "spies"or
"government agents", or Leonard Peltier in
his denial? For those of us who have
supported him, IF, this is true what are we
to make of it?
http://indigenouswomenforjustice.org/testa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Mae_Aquash#Indictments_and_a_co-conspirator
http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1614&Itemid=57
http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=58
There are many indigenous forums on the net-
they should jointly construct an information
pool, freely share what is gathered, do a
relentless job of investigative reporting and
sink their teeth into it like some rez dog who
refuses to let go and understands there are no
sacred cows. If anyone gets embarrassed too
damn bad. Embarrassment is a lesser pain than
being shot-it is a lesser pain than grief that
strikes a family-it is a lesser pain than
children growing up without their mother and
then having their nose rubbed in it with such
entities as "Free John Graham" and dim witted
conspiracy theories- it is a lesser pain than
justice denied or delayed.
chatnoir
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> http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...
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> There are many indigenous forums on the net-
> they should jointly construct an information
> pool, freely share what is gathered, do a
> relentless job of investigative reporting and
> sink their teeth into it like some rez dog who
> refuses to let go and understands there are no
> sacred cows. If anyone gets embarrassed too
> damn bad. Embarrassment is a lesser pain than
> being shot-it is a lesser pain than grief that
> strikes a family-it is a lesser pain than
> children growing up without their mother and
> then having their nose rubbed in it with such
> entities as "Free John Graham" and dim witted
> conspiracy theories- it is a lesser pain than
> justice denied or delayed.
http://andson49.blogspot.com/2009/12/new-book-american-indian-mafia-by-joe.html
Sunday, December 20, 2009
New Book - "American Indian Mafia" - by Joe Trimbach
I just saw a new book ad on the 'net, supposedly 'exposing' the
'truth' about the American Indian Movement, their leaders, about what
happened in Wounded Knee in '73...
I have been reading quite a bit of literature online lately, about
those times...due to the upcoming (date unannounced as yet)trial of
John Boy Graham for the murder in Dec. 1975 of Anna Mae Pictou-Aquash,
and it's relationship to the case of Leonard Peltier, presently doing
two life sentences in the US for murders it has been proven he DID NOT
commit!!! It is a disturbing case, and since some people involved I
knew personally, it affects me greatly. Allegations of AIM-sanctioned
execution-style murder, etc...is very disturbing indeed. But no
organization is without it's flaws. That is not an excuse meant to
sweep under the rug anything that may have happened back then that
was...controversial. Including Anna Mae's murder. I sincerely hope
that the real murderers are brought to justice, one way or another.
However, this book is what really drew my ire. I had to place a
comment on his blog about it, cuz it really pissed me off. It seems
everyone wants in on the action of the controversy of AIM and some of
the things their leadership supposedly did. So I am going to re-post
for you all here, the comment I left for them. Here goes:
You are just another nay-sayer. We have heard this time and time
again. We know that AIM made some serious mistakes during its
existence in the 70s and 80s.
You say Leonard Peltier is a fraud, etc. If so, he's a good one!!!
over 12 million people have signed various petitions, over the years,
asking for his release and exoneration. Have you real concrete proof
that he was behind the murders? Or that he was there? There is over
65,000 pages of evidence stating the opposite, yet the courts found a
way to find him guilty anyway. Even the Canadian government stated in
Supreme Court, June 1988, (and I was there, by the way) that they were
duped - but NOT by Leonard Peltier or his defense team, but by the US
government in allowing him to be extradited on FALSE EVIDENCE!!
However, they threw their hands in the air rhetorically and said, in
effect, what were they supposed to do now? In other words, they didn't
really care. And that has been the way and attitude about Native
People from your side of the fence, mister! And now, that the truth
about the way we are being treated is finally coming out, you write a
book that supposedly "tears apart Peter Mathiessons' book..." (note by
writer-the book referred to here is "In the Spitit of Crazy Horse" -
A.) Give me a break! I have been involved with the so-called
'fraudulent' Leonard Peltier defense people, and your allegations,
from what I have seen, are total hogwash. And even if Leonard refuses
to disclose his financial situation, that is just too bad. Would you?
Considering what has been done to keep him in jail all these years?
For a crime that, even the US admits now, that if they had known what
they know now, he would not have been found guilty and subsequently
sentenced for...So now you are going to cash in on it too??? By
writing a book that supposedly 'shows the other side'? The other side
of what? There is the truth, and then there's the truth. True Indian
history is finally coming to light, and we as a People are more self-
aware than we have ever been, despite our mistakes. We are still
surviving and indeed, we are THRIVING, despite Your Governments'
attempts to assimilate us, to wipe out our culture and heritage, and
steal our land for uranium, and other polluting, destructive,
desecrating uses!! The treaty process, funding to Native and Indian
programs to what you call 'elected' governments...these governments
were NOT created by our people...but were FORCED on us by the US and
Canadian governments!! And those tribal governments get richer, and
have done nothing for the Indians on Reservations!!! Look at the state
of those reservations!!! It is the same as it was in the 1800's, when
those in power on the rez, usually run by a non-Indian, would steal
the meat and leave the bones for the Indians... OUR ways and
Governments worked just fine...we have had more money stealing, etc.,
by YOUR people, and problems since those systems were put in place,
and you point the finger at AIM??? Now, I am not saying that the
leadership of AIM were angels, etc. but now you are attempting to
'expose' the 'truth' about AIM??? Oh, brother...try and start looking
at the corruption in your own organizations, then fix them. Leave our
People alone to fix and heal! Reconcile! The time for pointing
fingers, etc. is OVER, mister!!! You're just another hate-monger,
trying to make a buck off of us and our problems, and that makes you
NO different than the 'American Indian Mafia"' you are attempting to
expose...
Monica
What say you to price's memo tiny dancer? He has her under
surveillance on 2/12/76 a full two months after the fbi says she was
killed. Oops! What about her phone call to Paula Giese 18 days after
she was supposedly killed? Was she still running around with a bullet
through the brain? That's ludicrous! The second autopsy report clearly
states that the bullet pierced her brain. That would kill most people.
If the bullet killed her how did she crawl off the embankment? Come on
tiny dancer, is fbi agent david price lying? Did price have her under
surveillance two months after she was supposed to have been killed?
Did he indeed threaten to kill her within the year if she didn't turn
informant? Why didn't the fbi find the gun buried under the bridge?
Why didn't they find bullets in the ground? In Arlo's confession he
said he emptied the gun into the ground? Why did Arlo claim to have
crossed a fence that wouldn't be built until a decade and a half
later? So many unanswered questions. They never will be answered will
they? Lies are the foundation of the Amerikan Just Us system that
you've thrown in with. Another question that needs to be answered is
who were the three girls used as the bodies at the crime scene and the
two autopsies? Was any of them Anna Mae? Those families also deserve
closure. It's been over 30 years.
O'Brien
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> http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...
>
> http://indiancountrynews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...
>
> they should jointly construct an information
> pool, freely share what is gathered, do a
> relentless job of investigative reporting and
> sink their teeth into it like some rez dog who
> refuses to let go and understands there are no
> sacred cows. If anyone gets embarrassed too
> damn bad. Embarrassment is a lesser pain than
> being shot-it is a lesser pain than grief that
> strikes a family-it is a lesser pain than
> children growing up without their mother and
> then having their nose rubbed in it with such
> entities as "Free John Graham" and dim witted
> conspiracy theories- it is a lesser pain than
> justice denied or delayed.
Cute, how eloquent thou canst be whilst thou wantst.
Siobhan
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> >http://www.republicoflakotah.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1169&st=...
>
> In the paranoia, jockeying for position,and
> individual power struggles that precipitated
> the downward spiral of AIM during that time
> she was falsely accused of being an informant.
> An accusation that every one denounces now
> while swearing to her great character and good
> works-now she is everyone's sister.
Many Aim typeswere suspected or accused of being informants. The
FBI's Cointelpro program was designed to introduce this type of
dissent. After Dennis Banks' assistant (the pilot guy -- I am
blanking on his name) came out as an FBI guy, the paranoia grew. That
doesn't excuse the bad behavior by some AIM folks, but it does give
some perspective on how this happened.
> I have one question-READ CAREFULLY-IT IS A
> QUESTION-NOT AN ACCUSATION- it is one that
> will be addressed as this unfolds and so I
> ask it here: Annie Mae told several witnesses
> who have stepped forward that at one point
> Leonard Peltier had previously interrogated
> herand stuck a gun in mouth during the course
> of this interrogation-my question is who is
> lying, Annie, her family and the witnesses
> who are indigenous people, not "spies"or
> "government agents", or Leonard Peltier in
> his denial? For those of us who have
> supported him, IF, this is true what are we
> to make of it?
>
The problem I see with the Peltier issue is that he has nothing to do
with this case. The case is against Lookingcloud, Graham and
Marshall. Whatever happened between Leonard and Anna Mae has no tie
to the case -- if it happened, it happened at another time, another
place -- not during the time period Anna Mae was on Pine Ridge and was
shot. Leonard was either in Canada or facing trial at that point.
> There are many indigenous forums on the net-
> they should jointly construct an information
> pool, freely share what is gathered, do a
> relentless job of investigative reporting and
> sink their teeth into it like some rez dog who
> refuses to let go and understands there are no
> sacred cows. If anyone gets embarrassed too
> damn bad. Embarrassment is a lesser pain than
> being shot-it is a lesser pain than grief that
> strikes a family-it is a lesser pain than
> children growing up without their mother and
> then having their nose rubbed in it with such
> entities as "Free John Graham" and dim witted
> conspiracy theories- it is a lesser pain than
> justice denied or delayed.
Because this case is so old, because the evidence was poor in the
first place (the original autopsy was famously botched among other
things), because many FBI documents are missing and we're now left to
rely mostly on informant testimony on issues that happened 30+ years
ago I'm not feeling hopeful that even the most dogged Sherlock Holmes
type could construct a complete image of the case. Steve Hendricks
comes very close -- he was able to get FOIA documents that even
lawyers were unable to get. He also came in as an outsider, as a
journalist -- someone who probably didn't come in with much of an
agenda to get in the way.
Your question of who is telling the truth about the alleged Peltier
incident isn't really related to her murder, from what I can tell.
I'm sure Leonard is no angel and may have done some bad things.
Murdering or causing Anna Mae to be murdered is just not one of them.
The only people that really know what happened for sure are Anna Mae
and Leonard. Leonard has denied it; Anna Mae is not here to speak on
it. This is just something we may never know. But it has nothing to
do with who killed Anna Mae and won't lessen the tragedy of her
death.
That is my perspective.