Runes - Celtic and Viking
Menolly
Hi there,
I'm on the search for some references to Runes - the celtic and
viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
century. Also any myths documenting the use of or written in these
runes. Are there any books/pictures/WWW's etc with any info on
these?
Any help would be great.
Menolly :)
Lady Alana the Traveller
Shade
You might want to check out The Runic Journey home page at
http://pages.icacomp.com/~runesmith/runes/runemean.html. It has some
excellent information on Norse runes including pictures and meanings
of the first, second and third aetts.
Shade
David Bower
men...@southern.co.nz (Menolly) wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I'm on the search for some references to Runes - the celtic and
>viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
>century. Also any myths documenting the use of or written in these
>runes. Are there any books/pictures/WWW's etc with any info on
>these?
3000BC sounds a little early for any form of Celtic or Norse writing.
The Celtic form found in the British Isles was the Ogham alphabet, used
almost exclusively for ceremonial purposes. Most of the surviving
examples are on grave markers and monuments. It is based loosely on the
Roman Alphabet (thus my doubts about the 3000BC date). I believe that
the Nordic Runes were similarly related to the Roman Alphabet. I have
also been looking for a good book on Oghams. So far I have gleaned what I
know from short chapters in books more generally devoted to Ireland. The
largest chapter I found was in 'A Social History of Ancient Ireland' by
P.W. Joyce. I have seen a number of books on Runes, but have no idea
about the quality of any of them as I have not read them.
Willy Carroll
Private E-Mail to: oll...@juno.com
Niko Silvester
I just came across a web site about the Elder Futhark (viking runes) as
tools of divination. It's at:
http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/%7Emabo/runes.html.
The search I did on "runes futhrak" came up with a tonne of sites I
haven't had a chance to look at yet. Also try Norse mythology sites and
books- there's a great story about how Odin aquired the runes.
For Celtic stuff, search on "ogham". There don't seem to be as many
sites, but there are some.
On 29 Jul 1996, Menolly wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm on the search for some references to Runes - the celtic and
> viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
> century. Also any myths documenting the use of or written in these
> runes. Are there any books/pictures/WWW's etc with any info on
> these?
>
Kim Burkard
>>viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
>>century. Also any myths documenting the use of or written in these
>>runes. Are there any books/pictures/WWW's etc with any info on
>>these?
For information about the Celtic "runes" or Ogam, try the following
source:
_Taliesin: Shamanism and the Bardic Mysteries in Britain
and Ireland_ by John Matthews, The Aquarian Press,
London, 1991, isbn 1-85538-109-5
Chapter eight of the book is titled "The Lanuage of Trees: Ogam and
the Cad Goddeu". I'm sure you'll find some info there. ;)
The rest of the book is very interesting and it is well worth
chcking out.
The following books have been suggested on this newsgroup as
sources for Norse runes:
_Futhark_ by Edred Thorsson
_Leaves of Yggdrasil_ by Freya Aswynn
_Runelore by Edred Thorsson
Good luck in your search for runes....
-kim
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Mikko Saari
men...@southern.co.nz (Menolly) wrote:
>I'm on the search for some references to Runes - the celtic and
>viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
I have one .gif file showing some viking runes.
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Jarmo Ryyti
Niko Silvester (mnsi...@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
: I just came across a web site about the Elder Futhark (viking runes) as
: tools of divination. It's at:
: http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/%7Emabo/runes.html.
: The search I did on "runes futhrak" came up with a tonne of sites I
: haven't had a chance to look at yet. Also try Norse mythology sites and
: books- there's a great story about how Odin aquired the runes.
: For Celtic stuff, search on "ogham". There don't seem to be as many
: sites, but there are some.
: > I'm on the search for some references to Runes - the celtic and
: > viking (futhark?) ones. Somewhere between the 3000BC and 16th
: > century. Also any myths documenting the use of or written in these
: > runes. Are there any books/pictures/WWW's etc with any info on
: > these?
One should note that there is no rune-stones north of Medelpad
region of Sweden. Simply because there lived at that time
a Finnic tribe called Kvens. The name of the Kvens is still
existing in Northern-Norway describing the Kvenish/Finnish
minority of Northern-Norway.
They do not exist officially de jure and Norwegian administration
has implemented in the course of the decades all sorts of action
in order to extinct them.
For instance:
* to purchase land, one had to document ability to speak
Norwegian - this law was still in effect until 1964
* the captain of a fishing vessel had to by law be Norwegian
Norwegian
* the use of the Kven language in the schools was limited
and there was bans of speaking Kven/Finnish
*in the church,use of the Kven language was also severrely
restricted
...first a Swedish Sami L.L.Laestadius started to preach
in Finnish for the locals in spite of the protests of
the church
* the year 1929 the Kven newspaper Petsamo-Uutiset was founded
but after 2 issues the editor was banished from Norway and
paper folded.
In ourdays they exist de facto in Norway,but officially
they do not exist. That does not hinder Norwegian
administration and government to advice distant states
in human rights questions.
regards,
jami
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# the speaking of Finnish language in Sweden's schools.However,some #
# municipalities maintained restrictions until 1968 #
Helen Stanford
Menolly,
One piece of advice: a man I know that is heavily into Runes advised
me that authentic rune sets, or books that accompany them, do NOT
have a 25th "wyrd" stone/rune. That is something that was made up by
someone (I cannot remember his name), I think for the convenience of
stamping out 25 stones instead of 24, I don't know.
You might want to research that a bit more!