Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
The Sicker Vicar
old. From his obsession with Chris Squire, one might think he was
about 15. This NG has a readership of, what would you say, a few
hundred over the long term? And yet no one can make a comment
supportive of the current Yes "direction" without his immediate,
verbose, snot-nosed, wiseass reply. If Yes is such crap these days,
wouldn't you think he'd find a new place to cyber-hang? But no, day
after week after month, he's here, being the annoying little man at
the party who can't let anyone express their opinion without butting
in about how wrong they are. He claims he doesn't think this is his
personal NG, but you'd never tell that from his posting.
I wish he would express his obsession with Chris Squire in more
traditional stalker ways: waiting outside Squire's house, sending him
scented love poems with hearts and flowers, killing Squire's dog and
putting the head in his bass case. Anything other than the endless
repetition of the same pissy little point: "I don't like this, so it
sucks, and I'm going to stay here all day and talk about how much it
sucks." Well, OK, as long as he isn't deluded into thinking anyone
gives a damn. The only reason I know his name is his incredible
keyboard diarrhea, which won't let him spend a day without 5,000 words
on why Steve Howe is grumpy (with "fans" like Allen?), Squire is
drunk, White can't play, and the dastardly Benoit David has committed
the unpardonable sin of accepting a gig he was offered. They are all
guilty of Not Being Jon Anderson. Of course, a man in his 50s could
roll with punches like these. I guess Allen is a cranky old man
himself, and wants to spend his time online completely obsessed with
people who barely know he's alive, let alone give a damn about his
preferences as to THEIR career.
So why not create a Jon Anderson newsgroup? Then he couldn't reassure
himself by thinking about how "superior" he is to Chet! This Rob Allen—
what a loser.
rob...@aol.com
babbled:
hmm, 31 lines...what is that 400+ words? All that spent on the
"loser" Rob Allen.
Rob "it would appear we have a ~winner~!" Allen
MD
If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out at
Yesfans. There are a lot of us who used to think of Yes as something
special, and now as merely something else. You don't have to read his
posts, you know.
M "also over 50" D
Amy Solame
blathering of Chet or the incomprehensible, hypo-maniacal rantings of
'wereo'.
Depilated apes monkeyin' around with keyboards...
On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, The Sicker Vicar <convery.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is amazing to me that Rob Allen at least claims to be over 50 years
> old. From his obsession with Chris Squire, blah, blaugh, babble, bla...
beekay
(in article
<8f7a1bcd-d5e2-4552...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>):
> himself by thinking about how "superior" he is to Chet! This Rob Allenￜ
> what a loser.
You can always put Rob Allen in your kill file. I did it years ago.
The only time I see his posts are when someone I haven't kf'd responds to
him.
Rob is bitter because he covered his body in Jon Anderson/Yes-related
tattoos. Now that Anderson is no longer in YES I guess it's too painful for
him to deal look at all that ink on a daily basis.
Now if he had gotten some Squire tats, he wouldn't have this problem, would
he? ;)
-beekay
Wendell T. Stamps
Chet
Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Mon, Nov 2, 2009, 12:31pm From:
conver...@gmail.com (The Sicker Vicar)
I just hope for the best for YES, and hope they have more new material
within the next year. I feel good just knowing that they haven't given
up yet. Their act is an expression of freedom; that's important to
those who look for fine examples. ...they're free to keep on rockin,
even without the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame including them
progea
> If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out at
> Yesfans.
God, don't.
(almost 50 here)
paul
Yesfans isn't _that_ devoid of crtitical p.o.v's....really.... it's
just that any good points are buried under a slushy mountain of touchy
feely pussyfooting/back-patting/ and self congratulatory twiffle.
Whilst its a relatively polite forum to retreat to every now and then
I only end up reading comments by the likes of Billy Sherwood, Earl
Grey, Henry, Sully and a handful of others. The trading room is good
though.
p"fifty"
MD
> On Nov 3, 5:43 pm, progea <pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 2, 4:57 pm, MD <sonofol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out at
> > > Yesfans.
>
> > God, don't.
>
> > (almost 50 here)
>
> Yesfans isn't _that_ devoid of crtitical p.o.v's....really.... it's
> just that any good points are buried under a slushy mountain of touchy
> feely pussyfooting/back-patting/ and self congratulatory twiffle.
If Yesfans was a food it would be cotton candy.
I'm not sure what food amy would be, nor whether it would actually be
digestible.
NP: Zep_ Kashmir
M"still over 50"D
Steven Sullivan
> Well, at least Rob's posts beat the doped-up or lobotomized moronic
> blathering of Chet or the incomprehensible, hypo-maniacal rantings of
> 'wereo'.
I call that setting the bar *way low*.
--
-S
We have it in our power to begin the world over again - Thomas Paine
Steven Sullivan
> On Nov 3, 5:43?pm, progea <pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 4:57?pm, MD <sonofol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out at
> > > Yesfans.
> >
> > God, don't.
> >
> > (almost 50 here)
> Yesfans isn't _that_ devoid of crtitical p.o.v's....really.... it's
> just that any good points are buried under a slushy mountain of touchy
> feely pussyfooting/back-patting/ and self congratulatory twiffle.
> Whilst its a relatively polite forum to retreat to every now and then
> I only end up reading comments by the likes of Billy Sherwood, Earl
> Grey, Henry, Sully and a handful of others. The trading room is good
> though.
I'm kind of bored with the Yes fan community -- here, there,
everywhere -- nowadays. So you don't see many posts from me
lately. As Yes-related activitiues go I'd rather spend time learning
the bass part to 'To Be Over' than reading the same old from the same old.
I'll probably see the band itself again if they stagger back here. But
when they can so easily be compared to, say, themselves on tour in 1977
on Youtube, it gets ever more, um , poignant to sit through the latter-day
versions.
paul
rob...@aol.com
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:31:58 -0500, The Sicker Vicar wrote
> (in article
> > what a loser.
>
> You can always put Rob Allen in your kill file. I did it years ago.
> The only time I see his posts are when someone I haven't kf'd responds to
> him.
>
> Rob is bitter because he covered his body in Jon Anderson/Yes-related
> tattoos. Now that Anderson is no longer in YES I guess it's too painful for
> him to deal look at all that ink on a daily basis.
>
> Now if he had gotten some Squire tats, he wouldn't have this problem, would
> he? ;)
<snort>
it might be that so many clear thinkers like this thing are present in
the Yes fanbase, that gives HS the idea that their tribute act can
pass for the real thing.
Rob "*Yesfans* will never know the difference" Allen
Chet
Re: Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 6:38am From:
rob...@aol.com
---
Real thing? HA! Where's their trophy for being sooo special? ...alot
of good it did ....the Blue Meanies broadcast network ain't buyin it;
so what the hell you got
rob...@aol.com
> Re: Seriously?
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 6:38am From:
in the minds of all those who would view _the real_ Yes as being
special.
But you do have a point, you COSSHF...maybe it's not so much that Yes
was ever special, but more that tribute "Yes" isn't special at all.
> ...alot
> of good it did ....the Blue Meanies broadcast network ain't buyin it;
> so what the hell you got
one should hope that you'd get over that nonsense, you COSSHF. The
only good music is going to do is of the entertaiment variety...and
maybe that entertainment will sometimes go deep enough for some
people, to be somewhat more than simple entertainment...but, dude,
it's just _not going to change the world_.
Rob Allen
NP: Jon Anderson, "Far Far Cry"
Chet
Re: Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 10:10am From:
rob...@aol.com
Music won't be allowed to change the world...in a good way. John Lennon
said at the end of Yellow Submarine that Blue Meanies have been spotted
outside this theater and the only thing left to do is go out singing.
That Beatles movie had alot to say about society. I guess you must hate
John Lennon. You must think The Beatles didn't know what they were
doing. Blue Meanies were required to say *NO* until The Beatles and the
word *YES* appeared out of nowhere. My field of studies is different
than yours no doubt. I watched Yellow Submarine last night, and I watch
it once in awhile.
rob...@aol.com
>
> Music won't be allowed to change the world...in a good way. �John Lennon
> said at the end of Yellow Submarine that Blue Meanies have been spotted
> outside this theater and the only thing left to do is go out singing.
that John Lennon was sometimes a very entertaining guy.
> That Beatles movie had alot to say about society. �
apparently The Beatles were more popular than Jesus.
>I guess you must hate John Lennon.
not at all...I own a lot of his records...a lot of Beatles records as
well. I do wonder, however, why he let that Yoko Ono sing on some of
that stuff. Her singing isn't entertaining at all.
>You must think The Beatles didn't know what they were
> doing. �
they clearly knew what they were doing...it's just that what they were
doing was not at all what you think they were doing...you COSSHF.
>Blue Meanies were required to say *NO* until The Beatles and the
> word *YES* appeared out of nowhere. �
that really showed those Blue Meanies, didn't it.
>My field of studies is different than yours no doubt. �
clearly...for example, I have no interest in figuring out how to
collect SSI early...I'm quite happy to work...even if I don't have
to...
>I watched Yellow Submarine last night, and I watch it once in awhile.
well that's really neat, you COSSHF. It's easy to imagine you sitting
in the bus, watching Yellow Submarine...and calling it "studies".
But hey, I've an idea...why don't you include _personal hygiene_ in
your studies and _clean yourself_ once in a while. You might really
benefit from taking that direction.
Rob Allen
NP: The Beatles, "Paperback Writer"
Chet
Re: Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 12:25pm From:
rob...@aol.com
On Nov 3, 12:02�pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) babbled:
Meanies have been spotted outside this theater and the only thing left
to do is go out singing.
that John Lennon was sometimes a very entertaining guy.
I guess you must hate John Lennon.
not at all...I own a lot of his records...a lot of Beatles records as
well. I do wonder, however, why he let that Yoko Ono sing on some of
that stuff. Her singing isn't entertaining at all.
doing was not at all what you think they were doing...you COSSHF.
Blue Meanies were required to say *NO* until The Beatles and the word
SSI early...I'm quite happy to work...even if I don't have to...
I watched Yellow Submarine last night, and I watch it once in awhile.
well that's really neat, you COSSHF. It's easy to imagine you sitting in
the bus, watching Yellow Submarine...and calling it "studies".
But hey, I've an idea...why don't you include _personal hygiene_ in your
studies and _clean yourself_ once in a while. You might really benefit
from taking that direction.
Rob Allen
NP: The Beatles, "Paperback Writer"
lol. You love being a trash picker.
rob...@aol.com
> lol. �You love being a trash picker.
apparently you love being detached from reality.
Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
Chet
Re: Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 1:00pm From:
rob...@aol.com
On Nov 3, 12:42�pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) mumbled:
lol. �You love being a trash picker.
apparently you love being detached from reality.
Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
---
You're the one who can't live without Jon the Babb...tist.
rob...@aol.com
> Re: Seriously? �
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 1:00pm From:
> On Nov 3, 12:42 pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) mumbled:
> lol. You love being a trash picker.
>
> apparently you love being detached from reality.
> Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
> ---
>
> You're the one who can't live without Jon the Babb...tist.
I suggest that you love being detached from reality and you offer
further demonstration of that fact.
Nicely done, you COSSHF.
Rob Allen
NP: Widespread Panic, "Time Zones"
bubba
> Re: Seriously?
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 1:00pm From:
> On Nov 3, 12:42 pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) mumbled:
> lol. You love being a trash picker.
>
> apparently you love being detached from reality.
> Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
> ---
>
> You're the one who can't live without Jon the Babb...tist.
Hey everybody! Chet's trying to articulate! Shhh. C'mon Chet, put a
sentence together you can do it.
bubba
> Re: Seriously?
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 6:38am From:
I feel like Koko the gorilla's handler sometimes. It's like I can
almost believe you are trying to communicate with us.
Wendell T. Stamps
"Steven Sullivan" <ssu...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:hcoi1r$513$3...@reader1.panix.com...
> paul <redmoon...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>> On Nov 3, 5:43?pm, progea <pro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Nov 2, 4:57?pm, MD <sonofol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out
>> > > at
>> > > Yesfans.
>> >
>> > God, don't.
>> >
>> > (almost 50 here)
>
>> Yesfans isn't _that_ devoid of crtitical p.o.v's....really.... it's
>> just that any good points are buried under a slushy mountain of touchy
>> feely pussyfooting/back-patting/ and self congratulatory twiffle.
>> Whilst its a relatively polite forum to retreat to every now and then
>> I only end up reading comments by the likes of Billy Sherwood, Earl
>> Grey, Henry, Sully and a handful of others. The trading room is good
>> though.
>
> I'm kind of bored with the Yes fan community
I'm sure the feeling is mutual about you.
> I'd rather spend time learning
> the bass part to 'To Be Over' than reading the same old from the same old.
Or the bass part to *snicker* "Country Death Song".
WeReo_ScoTTy
WeReo_ScoTTy
news:5060-4AEF...@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net...
Allen- what a loser.
----
I just hope for the best for YES, and hope they have more new material
within the next year. I feel good just knowing that they haven't given
up yet. Their act is an expression of freedom; that's important to
those who look for fine examples. ...they're free to keep on rockin,
even without the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame including them
Fuck YES and fuck the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame too.
Chet
Re: Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 3:20pm From:
rob...@aol.com
On Nov 3, 2:36�pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) slobbered:
Re: Seriously? �
robm...@aol.com
On Nov 3, 12:42 pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) mumbled: lol. You
love being a trash picker.
apparently you love being detached from reality. Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
---
You're the one who can't live without Jon the Babb...tist.
I suggest that you love being detached from reality and you offer
further demonstration of that fact.
Nicely done, you COSSHF.
Rob Allen
NP: Widespread Panic, "Time Zones"
---
I wouldn't call hating the current YES, any reality to be proud of.
rob...@aol.com
> Re: Seriously? �
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 3:20pm From:
> On Nov 3, 2:36 pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) slobbered:
> Re: Seriously?
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009, 1:00pm From:
> robm...@aol.com
> On Nov 3, 12:42 pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) mumbled: lol. You
> love being a trash picker.
> apparently you love being detached from reality. Rob "WDYHSMFUF?" Allen
> ---
> You're the one who can't live without Jon the Babb...tist.
>
> I suggest that you love being detached from reality and you offer
> further demonstration of that fact.
> Nicely done, you COSSHF.
> Rob Allen
> NP: Widespread Panic, "Time Zones"
> ---
>
the reality is that there is no current Yes, you COSSHF.
Rob "but there are a couple of charlatans using the name to make
money" Allen
paul
Far be it for me to imply that Chet is operating with any form of
Lucidity.... but he's right and you're wrong
p
rob...@aol.com
impossible...here's the thing, Paul, the only reason I would *ever*
disagree with *anyone*, would be because they _are wrong_.
_XX_
Rob "there is no Yes, but there is a couple of charlatans using the
Yes brand to make a little money" Allen
rojon
> > what a loser.
>
> If you want a site nearly void of critical points of view, hang out at
> Yesfans.
*Some* critical points of view are aired there, which are tolerated by
a small percentage of inhabitants, but the larger percentage seemed to
feel mortally threatened and then behave like cornered animals,
attacking. The sad part is that over time, it looks like the bulk of
the populace just keep opposing opinion to themselves rather than
brave being ostracized.
Pussies, grow a pair.
Then you also have the sycophants, and since Squire and Squirette will
occasionally read and or post there, they behave as if every post is
meticulously studied by the royal couple. Squirette herself recently
went into cornered animal mode and went off on anyone in earshot that
wasn't properly genuflecting. It was the single most embarrassing
moment I have ever witness on any Yes site.
paul
LOL. "Yesfans"
p
rob...@aol.com
I suppose it's a good thing that I wouldn't even think of visiting
there, let alone post.
OTOH, it might have been some fun to point and laugh at the buffoon's
latest wife.
Rob Allen
NP: Talk Talk, _Laughing Stock_
ABHSW@ease
Why don't you post a link to a nice clear picture of yourself so we
can look for you at a future show and "say hello"? Or should we just
look for someone with a tattoo of Jon's cock to know it's you?
beekay
(in article <gkkef55k4cifeivdn...@4ax.com>):
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST), "rob...@aol.com"
> <rob...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 6, 7:09ï¿œpm, rojon <Rojont...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 2, 4:57ï¿œpm, MD <sonofol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> himself by thinking about how "superior" he is to Chet! This Rob Allenￜ
Ahahahahahaha!
NQ!
-beekay
rob...@aol.com
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST), "robm...@aol.com"
because I have no interest in morons with fresh trolls id's looking
for me, let alone coming to me to "say hello".
Of course there's almost no chance I would attend a future show. A
lot would have to change for the better, to get me to give this act
any more money.
>Or should we just
> look for someone with a tattoo of Jon's cock to know it's you?
hmm, so I'll guess you (and whoever "we" might be) somehow know what
Jon's cock looks like. Or maybe you've just imagined it enough times,
so that you think you know how it looks. Is there anything else along
those lines you'd like to share?
Rob Allen
NP: John Hiatt, "Master of Disaster"
rob...@aol.com
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:34:56 -0500, ABHSW@ease wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:02:35 -0800 (PST), "robm...@aol.com"
> > <robm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 6, 7:09 pm, rojon <Rojont...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> On Nov 2, 4:57 pm, MD <sonofol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
ya' just gotta appreciate the reliabity of complete morons.
Chuck
AMY. That was a very sad but accurate/prophetic observation. Unless
Jon comes back into the fold, I'm over and out (of AMY). Thank you to
those who carry love and support in their lives, and thus to others. I
continue to be inspired by Yes recordings to do just that.
CB
"Soon, oh soon the light"
Chet
Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
Group: alt.music.yes Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2009, 2:28pm From:
ShorT...@aol.com (Chuck)
OK, but, hang on to those keys to ascension
...only one band in the history of mankind offered those
No one's stoppng you from posting your opinions of Jon. Since Jon
didn't invent new YES lyrics, Sullivan's work is done. You don't see
him no more. It was his job to condemn any and all new YES songs....from
J. Most of the people who come to amy to give opinions probably don't
really give YES any thought. If the media wanted YES to be a spectacle,
they could have been, long ago. I know they're unique. ....the media
must think that Sound Chaser sucked. Fools! ...or, To Be Over. Fools!
...And so you see what good the media does this *Fragile* planet.
What's up with that??? Coincidence???
Chuck
> Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously? �
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2009, 2:28pm From:
> Not too long ago, someone predicted whom would be the last posters on
> AMY. That was a very sad but accurate/prophetic observation. Unless Jon
> comes back into the fold, I'm over and out (of AMY). Thank you to those
> who carry love and support in their lives, and thus to others. I
> continue to be inspired by Yes recordings to do just that.
> CB
> "Soon, oh soon the light"
> ---
>
> OK, but, hang on to those keys to ascension
You take care Chet. Quite obscure you are, but you did make me laugh a
few times over the years. Be well.
CB
"The strength of the moment lies with you"
rob...@aol.com
rob...@aol.com
<blank stare>
Rob "I wonder what "over and out" means in moron" Allen
bubba
> Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
>
> Group: alt.music.yes Date: Mon, Nov 9, 2009, 2:28pm From:
Coincidence??? No, you are just insane that's all.
Chet
Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
ShorT...@aol.com (Chuck)
On Nov 9, 9:05�pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) wrote:
Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously? �
ShorThi...@aol.com (Chuck)
Not too long ago, someone predicted whom would be the last posters on
AMY. That was a very sad but accurate/prophetic observation. Unless Jon
comes back into the fold, I'm over and out (of AMY). Thank you to those
who carry love and support in their lives, and thus to others. I
continue to be inspired by Yes recordings to do just that. CB
"Soon, oh soon the light"
---
OK, but, hang on to those keys to ascension
---
You take care Chet. Quite obscure you are, but you did make me laugh a
few times over the years. Be well.
CB
"The strength of the moment lies with you"
----
Take care. I'll be well. *Ascend, and create ascension.
~~~*
Mike Smith
Heh. Chet's been over and out for some of us for quite some time. If
only other folks would quit replying to his insane, demented,
drug-addled moronicalness...
--
Mike Smith
rob...@aol.com
*Never*!
Rob "he's not so much moron as he is crazy...and old...and
stinky...and..." Allen
Chet
Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
smi...@optonline.net (Mike Smith)
Chuck wrote:
On Nov 9, 9:05�pm, TheTimeTrave...@webtv.net (Chet) wrote:
Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously? �
ShorThi...@aol.com (Chuck)
Not too long ago, someone predicted whom would be the last posters on
AMY. That was a very sad but accurate/prophetic observation. Unless Jon
comes back into the fold, I'm over and out (of AMY). Thank you to those
who carry love and support in their lives, and thus to others. I
continue to be inspired by Yes recordings to do just that. CB
"Soon, oh soon the light"
---
OK, but, hang on to those keys to ascension
You take care Chet. Quite obscure you are, but you did make me laugh a
few times over the years. Be well.
Heh. Chet's been over and out for some of us for quite some time. If
only other folks would quit replying to his insane, demented,
drug-addled moronicalness...
--
Mike Smith
---
What good is your *sanity*? When are you going to save the planet to
prove yourself rightous? When are you, as an individual, going to end
war on Earth? How will you be able to get your message heard?????
gonna ask the FCC messiahs for permission??? ...gonna scream, or gonna
sing???? ....gonna do nothing; waiting for the bombs to fall again, is
sanity? on this *Fragile* planet
What are we suppossed to discuss about YES?? All the trivia,
meaningless crap?? What for, and why??
bubba
> Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
>
Chet all the hippies realized LONG ago that you can't change anything
with a poem or a song. You need to get off your fat lazy smelly hippy
ass and actually be PRO active to change anything. So in your case
impossible.
bubba
> Re: Crybaby Rob Allen Is Over 50? Seriously?
>
And blaming everything on imaginary gods and devils won't work either