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Paul Goodwin

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Mar 7, 2001, 3:44:03 AM3/7/01
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I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
Nous" is kinda....dumb.

So. What would be a better one?


"Here is my heart,
Waiting for you
Here is my soul
_______________"


(comedic submissions welcome as well)


--
Paul

WorldMoo

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
> So. What would be a better one?
>
>
> "Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul

It's ruled by WordMoo"

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WorldMoo


WorldMoo

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
> So. What would be a better one?
>
>
> "Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul
> _______________"

I live for WorldMoo

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The


WorldMoo

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
> So. What would be a better one?
>
>
> "Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul

Worshipping WorldMoo"

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WorldMoo

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WorldMoo

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
> So. What would be a better one?
>
>
> "Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul
> _______________"

It's fond of WordMoo

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WorldMoo

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Stephen Bruun

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Mar 7, 2001, 12:41:33 PM3/7/01
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Paul Goodwin <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
> So. What would be a better one?

Some college friends of mine kept suggested substitute lines on a bulletin
board. I never saw it, myself, though, so I'll have to wing it.....

> "Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul

"With love that is true"
"With hope that is true"
"Tell me what to do"
"Heart-spoken Khatru" (been there done that)
"Ugh, what is that goo?"
"Stop posting, WorldMoo"
"I've been sniffing glue"

or for the last TWO lines:
"Here is my sole
It's nailed to my shoe."


Giles Lawrence

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Mar 7, 2001, 2:39:44 PM3/7/01
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"WorldMoo" <YesT...@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:984ske$bah6$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de...
> > I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> > Nous" is kinda....dumb.
> >
> > So. What would be a better one?
> >
> >
> > "Here is my heart,
> > Waiting for you
> > Here is my soul
> > _______________"
>

Shoo dooby do? ;-)


Giles

K-Gun

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Mar 7, 2001, 2:56:32 PM3/7/01
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or ScoobyDoobieDoooo!
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Ellsworth Hall

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Mar 7, 2001, 3:54:49 PM3/7/01
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Paul Goodwin wrote:

> I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> Nous" is kinda....dumb.

I always kinda liked it. I felt it refered to eating at home, meaning being
faithful.

- Ells

Rob Allen

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Mar 7, 2001, 5:23:13 PM3/7/01
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the more I think about it the more the original line sounds _perfect_ to me.

Rob Allen
NP: David Sancious & Tone, _True Stories_
R.I.P. "Whisky"

Twenty-one glorious years.
Elegant to your final day.
Remembered always and forever.

Len Richards

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I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about "Stephen
Bruun" <br...@starpower.net> who made this post:


The Insensitive Non-New-Age Solution:
"So come on, let's screw".

The management of Len Richards does not necessarily support the above
cheap shot.

--

GreyWiz<snail thingy>Rocketmail<period>com.
Addy munge frequently changes - just remove the animal.

Edward Kyle

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Mar 7, 2001, 8:46:30 PM3/7/01
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Since "Chez Nous" is a reasonably ordinary name for a small cafe', I don't
understand why this line is so dumb.

Paul Goodwin

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Mar 7, 2001, 10:43:14 PM3/7/01
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Edward Kyle wrote in message <3AA6E475...@shentel.net>...

>Since "Chez Nous" is a reasonably ordinary name for a small cafe', I don't
>understand why this line is so dumb.
>
>Paul Goodwin wrote:
>

You can really tell Yes aren't doing much when people feel it necessary to
post a comment here, then start *another* thread on it
elsewhere................
OK Ed, I revise my comment----*I* think its a stupid line. But then again I
think its a stupid song which should have stayed on the studio floor. And
people diss Arriving UFO geeeez.... ;-)


Paul


Rojon Thod

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Mar 7, 2001, 10:43:04 PM3/7/01
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>Subject: Fixing "Love Will Find A Way"
>From: "Paul Goodwin"
>
>I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
>Nous" is kinda....dumb.
>
>So. What would be a better one?
>
>
>"Here is my heart,
> Waiting for you
> Here is my soul

soleil du sommes Nous

Giles Lawrence

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"Rob Allen" <rob...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul Goodwin" pgoo...@home.com wrote:
> >
> >I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
> >Nous" is kinda....dumb.
> >
> >So. What would be a better one?
> >
> >
> >"Here is my heart,
> > Waiting for you
> > Here is my soul
> > _______________"

God, I need a poo....

or even better (from Jon)

Trev, What is this pooh......


Giles

Alex Van Starrex

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Mar 8, 2001, 4:29:16 AM3/8/01
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Paul Goodwin wrote in message <984ske$bah6$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de>...

Tough call. Erm.....

whatever you do
I'm making a stew
my feelings are true
I look like a Jew
I drunk quite a few
I'm out of the loo
I'm jumping the queue
I sleep in the zoo

Forget it!

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gmelin

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Mar 8, 2001, 9:35:33 AM3/8/01
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Edward Kyle <ewk...@shentel.net> wrote in article
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| Since "Chez Nous" is a reasonably ordinary name for a small cafe', I
don't
| understand why this line is so dumb.
|
| Paul Goodwin wrote:
|
| > I think its safe to say that most people think the line, "I eat at Chez
| > Nous" is kinda....dumb.
| >
| > So. What would be a better one?

How about. . .

| > "Here is my heart,
| > Waiting for you
| > Here is my soul

My phone just rang and I didn't get no call.

Yeah, that works. . .

--
gmelin

My dog is half pit bull, half poodle. Not much of a guard dog, but a
vicious gossip.
-- Craig Shoemaker

Steven Sullivan

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Mar 8, 2001, 11:55:12 AM3/8/01
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What line did Jon substitute for it at some Yeswest shows?

--
-S.
"Certain areas of electronica smell of prog occasionally. I try not to
notice." -- Thom Yorke

Stephen Bruun

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Mar 8, 2001, 12:37:38 PM3/8/01
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Ellsworth Hall <eh...@bmhsi.org> wrote in message
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> I always kinda liked it. I felt it refered to eating at home, meaning
being
> faithful.

A common lyrical synonym for "faithful" being "true," which woulda fit the
bill, no?


froy

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Steven Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in message
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>
> What line did Jon substitute for it at some Yeswest shows?

Check the South America Video it's there .
Mine is in storage .

Robert Dubnicka

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Mar 8, 2001, 4:19:06 PM3/8/01
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Steven Sullivan wrote:
>
> What line did Jon substitute for it at some Yeswest shows?

"Tell me what to do" is what he used on the "Indigenous Journey"
version.

gmelin

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Mar 8, 2001, 5:17:08 PM3/8/01
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Stephen Bruun <br...@starpower.net> wrote in article
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Sure, if you want Yes to use cliches in their lyrics. Why did Anderson
write "Mountains come out of the sky," if, "The mountains are high," woulda
fit the bill? Maybe because it was *not* the common lyrical synonym?

--
gmelin

np: Yes, "The Calling" long version -- amusing. . .

Rob Allen

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Mar 8, 2001, 5:37:18 PM3/8/01
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Steven Sullivan sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote:
>
>What line did Jon substitute for it at some Yeswest shows?

it was something like: "shining on to get you".

Rob Allen
NP: _sublime_

Stephen Bruun

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gmelin <gme...@earthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Sure, if you want Yes to use cliches in their lyrics. Why did Anderson
> write "Mountains come out of the sky," if, "The mountains are high,"
woulda
> fit the bill? Maybe because it was *not* the common lyrical synonym?

"Mountains come out of the sky" doesn't rhyme with another lyric in that
song, so you're analogy doesn't quite work. Also, "mountains come out of
the sky" is a very visual, poetic line - you can picture the clouds
obscuring the mountaintops, so that the mountains seem to have descended to
earth from an unseen mountain factory or something. "I eat at Chez Nous"
sounds like a drunken bet or an out-of-ideas line. The word "eat" in that
line seems to interrupt the flow, and the "Chez Nous" thing seems like
"duude, check it out, I know two words of French."


Relayer54

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Mar 9, 2001, 12:47:06 AM3/9/01
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My Ella Guru
<must be Zappa fan to 'get it'>
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Relayer54
FA: 'Dan Blocker Acting Theory'. Softbound, 126 pages. Free shipping.

Stephen Bruun

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Relayer54 <Rela...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> My Ella Guru
> <must be Zappa fan to 'get it'>

Why must one be a Zappa fan to "get it" when it's a Captain Beefheart
reference? Yeah, Zappa and Beefheart often collaborated but Beefheart, not
Zappa, wrote "Ella Guru."

I'm not even a Beefheart fan . . . this, like Dave Mattacks, takes us back
to XTC. Turns out Andy Partridge IS a Beefheart fan, and XTC covered "Ella
Guru" for a tribute album called "Fast 'n' Bulbous" (a lyric from "Ella
Guru"). They also used the track as a B-side for the 12-inch vinyl and
5-inch CD single versions of "Mayor of Simpleton."


Relayer54

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I stand corrected. I used to own that Beefheart album on vinyl and
should have know better; probably screwed up due to the fact I recently
listened to Bongo Fury and got mixed up. Yes, I know Ella isn't on Bongo
Fury.

Rich W.

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I have always thought that "eat at Chez Nous" killed any momentum that
Yes had following 90125. Expectations were high following 90125 and then
the next thing they come out with is a song with a stupid lyric like
that. It was horrible. I remember a friend of mine used to refer to the
album as "Big Dissapointment"

RW


In article <984ske$bah6$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de>, pgoo...@home.com
says...

Rob Allen

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Mar 9, 2001, 8:49:02 PM3/9/01
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Rich W. mailc...@mail.com wrote:
>
>I have always thought that "eat at Chez Nous" killed any momentum that
>Yes had following 90125. Expectations were high following 90125 and then
>the next thing they come out with is a song with a stupid lyric like
>that. It was horrible. I remember a friend of mine used to refer to the
>album as "Big Dissapointment"

so..."Love City" didn't bother you and your friend at all?

Rob "twice shy" Allen
NP: Emeril Live

Steven Sullivan

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Mar 9, 2001, 10:14:18 PM3/9/01
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Rob Allen <rob...@aol.com> wrote:

: Rich W. mailc...@mail.com wrote:
:>
:>I have always thought that "eat at Chez Nous" killed any momentum that
:>Yes had following 90125. Expectations were high following 90125 and then
:>the next thing they come out with is a song with a stupid lyric like
:>that. It was horrible. I remember a friend of mine used to refer to the
:>album as "Big Dissapointment"

: so..."Love City" didn't bother you and your friend at all?

*yesfans*

Rob Allen

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Steven Sullivan sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote:
>
>Rob Allen <rob...@aol.com> wrote:
>: Rich W. mailc...@mail.com wrote:
>:>
>:>I have always thought that "eat at Chez Nous" killed any momentum that
>:>Yes had following 90125. Expectations were high following 90125 and then
>:>the next thing they come out with is a song with a stupid lyric like
>:>that. It was horrible. I remember a friend of mine used to refer to the
>:>album as "Big Dissapointment"
>
>: so..."Love City" didn't bother you and your friend at all?
>
>*yesfans*

lol, yeah...you give some of them a few "Black and Tans" over lunch, and they
can't get the song titles right.

How about sb "City of Love".

Does someone do a song called "Love City"?

Rob Allen


Theus

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Mar 10, 2001, 1:37:25 PM3/10/01
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"Rob Allen" <rob...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that a Beach Boys song? ;-)


gmelin

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Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> wrote in article
<%zuq6.7744$TW.3...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...

| > Does someone do a song called "Love City"?
| >
|
| Isn't that a Beach Boys song? ;-)

Nah, you're thinking of "Surf City," but that's by Crack the Sky. How many
songs do you know of with the line, "Hey Whitey, here come the spades"?

Alex Van Starrex

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Mar 10, 2001, 7:54:52 PM3/10/01
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Everyone with the video - gee, which was it? - "Greatest Video Hits" I
think, not "YesYears", will know about the Stevie Nicks connection.

Has anyone HEARD (about) her version? what does SHE sing?

Zen Cat36

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<<"Here is my sole
It's nailed to my shoe.">>

Good but too practical~

Theus

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"gmelin" <gme...@earthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> wrote in article
> <%zuq6.7744$TW.3...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...
>
> | > Does someone do a song called "Love City"?
> | >
> |
> | Isn't that a Beach Boys song? ;-)
>
> Nah, you're thinking of "Surf City," but that's by Crack the Sky. How
many
> songs do you know of with the line, "Hey Whitey, here come the spades"?
>
A great masterpiece, I'm sure.


Theus

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Mar 10, 2001, 9:24:21 PM3/10/01
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"Alex Van Starrex" <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote in message
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> Everyone with the video - gee, which was it? - "Greatest Video Hits" I
> think, not "YesYears", will know about the Stevie Nicks connection.
>
> Has anyone HEARD (about) her version? what does SHE sing?
>
It was never recorded, as far as I know. I think it was planned for one
of her records, but Yes recording it forestalled that one.


gmelin

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Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> wrote in article

<noBq6.7811$TW.3...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...

| > Nah, you're thinking of "Surf City," but that's by Crack the Sky. How
| many
| > songs do you know of with the line, "Hey Whitey, here come the spades"?
| >
| A great masterpiece, I'm sure.

It's pretty fun, but you have to have the Crack the Sky mindset. It's from
the first album, which also has "She's a Dancer" and "Ice," which are
pretty cool as well. On the other hand, their live album, though they made
it without John Palumbo, is indespensible for the bizarre cover of "I am
the Walrus."

Rojon Thod

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>Subject: Re: Fixing "Love Will Find A Way" RUINED YES
>From: "Alex Van Starrex"

>
>
>Everyone with the video - gee, which was it? - "Greatest Video Hits" I
>think, not "YesYears", will know about the Stevie Nicks connection.
>
>Has anyone HEARD (about) her version? what does SHE sing?

I don't know about you guys but I think this would have been a good song for
her. I can just hear her voice in that one.

Henry Potts

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Mar 10, 2001, 7:36:31 PM3/10/01
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Alex Van Starrex <avan...@tig.com.au> wrote
>Everyone with the video - gee, which was it? - "Greatest Video Hits" I
>think, not "YesYears", will know about the Stevie Nicks connection.
>
>Has anyone HEARD (about) her version? what does SHE sing?

It's never been released or leaked on to boots, so we don't know, but
she has said she changed some of the lyrics.
--
Henry

Satcom2

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Mar 12, 2001, 11:24:46 PM3/12/01
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I remember that lyric embarrassed me too. I also remember that Duran
Duran also had an album with no artwork and ugly colors on the cover called
"Big Thing".

The worst Yes song, though, was "Big Generator". Remember the lyrics? And
the really bad "orchestral stab" keyboard sound. I am guessing here, but I
don't think that was Rick Wakeman doing the keyboards on that.

Imagine if they would have played "Big Generator" at the Masterworks
tour, right after "Gates of Delerium". That would have been really amazingly
scary. -Satcom2


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Paul Goodwin

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Satcom2 wrote in message <98k78u$cph$1...@nnrp2.phx.gblx.net>...

> I remember that lyric embarrassed me too. I also remember that Duran
>Duran also had an album with no artwork and ugly colors on the cover called
>"Big Thing".
>
> The worst Yes song, though, was "Big Generator". Remember the lyrics?
And
>the really bad "orchestral stab" keyboard sound. I am guessing here, but I
>don't think that was Rick Wakeman doing the keyboards on that.
>

Not the most fervent Yes fan are ya--good guess. ;-)

"there is a reason to experience, psychodelic so we could see"

Paul

NP-- Yes-- "First Steps" (hey it was $10)


YESWOLF1

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Mar 13, 2001, 10:29:43 AM3/13/01
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Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly sux.

YESWOLF

Steven Sullivan

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Mar 13, 2001, 11:26:52 AM3/13/01
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YESWOLF1 <yesw...@aol.com> wrote:
: Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and

: especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly sux.

Almost Like Love is a good song, I like it. THe worst Yes tune ever is
[something from 90125, Talk, or UNion]

Loz

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On 13 Mar 2001 15:29:43 GMT, yesw...@aol.com (YESWOLF1) and after
much thought, wrote:

LOL. "Almost Like Love" - it's my favourite on the album!

*Yesfans* - LOL.

Loz {:-)>
NP: The Best of Sparks

Theus

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"YESWOLF1" <yesw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
> especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly
sux.
>
I think BG is much worse, but then they both pale next to City of Love
or most of OYE.


Todd Mitchell

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"Theus" mejs...@netcom.ca writes:

>I think BG is much worse, but then they both pale next to City of Love
>or most of OYE.

Especially "Man in the Moon".

Todd

"The enemy isn't conservatism. The enemy isn't liberalism. The enemy is
bullshit." Lars Erik-Nelson

Relayer54

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It sounded pretty decent performed live, but the studio version is
another story, IMHO.

Relayer54

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City of Love is definitely in the smelliest region of the shitheap. Then
again, most of us bass players can handle that one. ;>

Paul Goodwin

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Loz wrote in message <5mjsat0leqgk67hq7...@4ax.com>...


I've always been fond of "I'm Running", lot of good tight parts in that one,
not to mention the "Hear this voice
Now and forever, This time, brothers in time....." bit, which sounds like it
was sung by the same people who sang the theme to the cartoon
"Spiderman"---- next time the cartoon show comes on listen carefully--my
kids pointed that out years ago...... :))


Paul


gmelin

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Paul Goodwin <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in article
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| I've always been fond of "I'm Running", lot of good tight parts in that
one,
| not to mention the "Hear this voice
| Now and forever, This time, brothers in time....." bit, which sounds like
it
| was sung by the same people who sang the theme to the cartoon
| "Spiderman"---- next time the cartoon show comes on listen carefully--my
| kids pointed that out years ago...... :))

Maybe Yes should do the soundtrack for the Spiderman movie currently in
production. . .

--
gmelin

It's really hard to maintain a one-on-one relationship if the other person
is not going to allow me to go out with other people.
-- Axl Rose

Paul Rogers

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Relayer54 wrote:

> Theus wrote:
> >
> > "YESWOLF1" <yesw...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20010313102943...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> > > Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
> > > especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly
> > sux.
> > >
> > I think BG is much worse, but then they both pale next to City of Love
> > or most of OYE.
>
> City of Love is definitely in the smelliest region of the shitheap. Then
> again, most of us bass players can handle that one. ;>

"Walls" is my *most* despised Yestune. That song must have hit its face on all
the branches on its fall from the top of the ugly tree.

paul


Rob Allen

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yesw...@aol.com (YESWOLF1) wrote:
>
>Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
>especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly sux.

I just heard that song, I like it a...lot...terrific stuff...superJonyesstuff.

Rob "that's notta typo" Allen

Rob Allen

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Mar 13, 2001, 8:59:33 PM3/13/01
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Steven Sullivan sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote:
>
>YESWOLF1 <yesw...@aol.com> wrote:
>: Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
>: especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune truly
>sux.
>
>Almost Like Love is a good song, I like it. THe worst Yes tune ever is
>[something from 90125, Talk, or UNion]

<snort>

the worst Yessong ever is on _OYE_, _GftO_ or......._Tormato_.

Rob Allen
NP: Yes, "Final Eyes"

Paul Goodwin

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Mar 13, 2001, 9:48:36 PM3/13/01
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gmelin wrote in message <01c0ac20$b896dec0>

>Maybe Yes should do the soundtrack for the Spiderman movie currently in
>production. . .

Hasn't that movie been "currently in production" since the early 90's?


Paul

------


"Suburbia: where they tear out the trees & then name streets after them."


Steven Sullivan

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Mar 13, 2001, 10:31:15 PM3/13/01
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Rob Allen <rob...@aol.com> wrote:

: <snort>


yeah, those too.

Jeremy S.

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Mar 13, 2001, 11:51:26 PM3/13/01
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In article <98mmc2$2p2hh$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de>,

Paul Goodwin <pgoo...@home.com> wrote:
>
>gmelin wrote in message <01c0ac20$b896dec0>
>>Maybe Yes should do the soundtrack for the Spiderman movie currently in
>>production. . .
>
>Hasn't that movie been "currently in production" since the early 90's?

No, the script was in legal troubles for a long time, but production has
recently begun on the film. In fact, a construction worker was recently
killed on the set.

It will have Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker, Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane
Watson, Willem Dafoe as Norman Osborn / The Green Goblin.

May 2002 is the current release date.

--Jeremy

Theus

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Mar 14, 2001, 3:08:18 AM3/14/01
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"Relayer54" <Rela...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3AAEB7...@worldnet.att.net...

> Theus wrote:
> >
> > "YESWOLF1" <yesw...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20010313102943...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> > > Big Generator is a good song, I like it. The worst YES tune ever (and
> > > especially from Big Generator) is Almost Like Love. Now that tune
truly
> > sux.
> > >
> > I think BG is much worse, but then they both pale next to City of
Love
> > or most of OYE.
>
> City of Love is definitely in the smelliest region of the shitheap. Then
> again, most of us bass players can handle that one. ;>

I can't honestly picture any semi talented guitar player or bass player
finding that song much of a challenge.


Paul Goodwin

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Mar 14, 2001, 4:06:37 AM3/14/01
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Theus wrote in message ...

>
>
> I can't honestly picture any semi talented guitar player or bass player
>finding that song much of a challenge.
>
>

....which is sort of a meaningless statement. The same can be said for the
majority of the Beatles catalogue, but that doesn't lessen the importance of
the work.

Paul


Relayer54

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Mar 14, 2001, 2:51:25 PM3/14/01
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Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.

Relayer54

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Mar 14, 2001, 2:52:54 PM3/14/01
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LOL. And that's the tune they played on Letterman show.

CountV/John T

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Mar 14, 2001, 3:01:17 PM3/14/01
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On 1-03-14 03.48, Paul Goodwin <pgoo...@home.com> uploaded to the Usenet,
for all the world to see, the following:

> gmelin wrote in message <01c0ac20$b896dec0>
>> Maybe Yes should do the soundtrack for the Spiderman movie currently in
>> production. . .
>
> Hasn't that movie been "currently in production" since the early 90's?

Pretty much. This time principal photography has started, so it seems likely
that it may actually end up being released.

--
CountV/John T
"I'm trying to get my Mac fully tricked out before January, when the Mac
operating system is no more. At that point, I want my machine perfect, so I
can go as long as possible before switching over to Windows." - Bruce
Tognazzini
AMYCD logos and sleeve proposals; http://www.m-ideas.com/amy/index.htm


Paul Rogers

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Mar 14, 2001, 5:46:33 PM3/14/01
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Relayer54 wrote:

> Paul Rogers wrote:
>
> > "Walls" is my *most* despised Yestune. That song must have hit its face on all
> > the branches on its fall from the top of the ugly tree.
> >
> > paul

> LOL. And that's the tune they played on Letterman show.

LOVL...very badly.

paul

Paul Rogers

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Mar 14, 2001, 5:48:47 PM3/14/01
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CountV/John T wrote:

> On 1-03-14 03.48, Paul Goodwin <pgoo...@home.com> uploaded to the Usenet,
> for all the world to see, the following:
>
> > gmelin wrote in message <01c0ac20$b896dec0>
> >> Maybe Yes should do the soundtrack for the Spiderman movie currently in
> >> production. . .
> >
> > Hasn't that movie been "currently in production" since the early 90's?
>
> Pretty much. This time principal photography has started, so it seems likely
> that it may actually end up being released.

I work with a chap who's daughter is doing cgi on it. So its obviously in
production.

paul


Cherie

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Mar 14, 2001, 5:48:20 PM3/14/01
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<<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>

First issue would bring in $25 grand. No ?

~Cherie

Steven Sullivan

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Mar 14, 2001, 6:07:37 PM3/14/01
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Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
: <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>

: First issue would bring in $25 grand. No ?


In mint condition, in a good market, maybe.

Values of comics have plummeted compared to the frenzy of some years back.
I'm gonna wait another decade or two before I sell my Fantastic Four #1 ;>

Theus

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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So you like City of Love?


Len Richards

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Mar 14, 2001, 8:02:02 PM3/14/01
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I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about Steven
Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> who made this post:

>Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
>: <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>
>
>: First issue would bring in $25 grand. No ?
>
>
>In mint condition, in a good market, maybe.
>
>Values of comics have plummeted compared to the frenzy of some years back.
>I'm gonna wait another decade or two before I sell my Fantastic Four #1 ;>

That's another Thing entirely.

Len


--

GreyWiz<snail thingy>Rocketmail<period>com.
Addy munge frequently changes - just remove the animal.

Paul Rogers

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Mar 14, 2001, 8:51:54 PM3/14/01
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Len Richards wrote:

> I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about Steven
> Sullivan <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> who made this post:
> >Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
> >: <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>
> >
> >: First issue would bring in $25 grand. No ?
> >
> >
> >In mint condition, in a good market, maybe.
> >
> >Values of comics have plummeted compared to the frenzy of some years back.
> >I'm gonna wait another decade or two before I sell my Fantastic Four #1 ;>
>
> That's another Thing entirely.

Flame on!

paul


Len Richards

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Mar 14, 2001, 10:12:13 PM3/14/01
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I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about Paul Rogers
<paul....@aut.ac.nz> who made this post:
Far be it for a Richards to stretch the point, but I don't see what
you're on about....

Paul Goodwin

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Mar 14, 2001, 10:12:50 PM3/14/01
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Len Richards wrote in message ...

>>>
>>Flame on!
>>
>Far be it for a Richards to stretch the point, but I don't see what
>you're on about....
>

Johnny Storm-- the "Human Torch"

unnerstand? ;-))


Paul


Theus

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Mar 16, 2001, 1:12:29 PM3/16/01
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"Hugh Macpherson" <hugh...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ab1e...@news2.vip.uk.com...
>
> > Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
> books.....
>
> Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and Art
of
> Noise singles.
>
What's wrong with that that? Art of Noise did some very interesting
stuff.


Len Richards

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Mar 14, 2001, 11:49:24 PM3/14/01
to
I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about "Paul
Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> who made this post:
stretch [Reed Richards - Mr Fantastic]
the point,
but I
don't see [Sue Storm Richards - The Invisible Girl]

what
you're on about....


Use the psychic powers and all becomes clear, Paul.


Len Richards
owner of the all-seeing Bifocals Of Aggamotto

Paul Goodwin

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Mar 15, 2001, 12:02:10 AM3/15/01
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Theus wrote in message ...
>
>"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:98ncht$2nmrd$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de...
>>
>> Theus wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >
>> > I can't honestly picture any semi talented guitar player or bass
>player
>> >finding that song much of a challenge.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ....which is sort of a meaningless statement. The same can be said for
the
>> majority of the Beatles catalogue, but that doesn't lessen the importance
>of
>> the work.
>>
> So you like City of Love?
>
>

It worked better live but yes I do.
Blows away a lot of other Yessongs that come to mind.


Paul


Len Richards

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Mar 15, 2001, 12:40:11 AM3/15/01
to
I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about "Paul
Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> who made this post:
>
>Len Richards wrote in message ...
>>I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about "Paul
>>Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> who made this post:
>>>
>>>Len Richards wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>Flame on!
>>>>>
>>>>Far be it for a Richards to stretch the point, but I don't see what
>>>>you're on about....
>>>>
>>>
>>>Johnny Storm-- the "Human Torch"
>>>
>>>unnerstand? ;-))
>>>
>>Far be it for a Richards to
>>stretch [Reed Richards - Mr Fantastic]
>>the point,
>> but I
>>don't see [Sue Storm Richards - The Invisible Girl]
>>what
>>you're on about....
>>
>>
>>Use the psychic powers and all becomes clear, Paul.
>>
>>
>>Len Richards
>>owner of the all-seeing Bifocals Of Aggamotto
>>
>
>Nothing is very clear at the moment Len, I'm suffering from a horrific cold
>thats sweeping my building, most people here have had it for 2 flippin weeks
>or more, it's a doozy, so the hot toddies had to be brought in, and your
>references to the other FF went zoooming right over my head ;-))
>
>
>Paul--choo!.
>
<Grey Wiz casts a get-well spell>

Cherie

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:35:25 AM3/15/01
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<<Nothing is very clear at the moment Len, I'm suffering from a horrific cold
thats sweeping my building, most people here have had it for 2 flippin weeks
or more, it's a doozy, so the hot toddies had to be brought in, and your
references to the other FF went zoooming right over my head ;-))>>

Paul, I hope you've had your flu shot. My cold developed into the flu, then
into pnemonia last month. There's something really nasty going around out
there.
Be careful.


~Cherie
<a href="http://www.petslates.com">Personalized Pet Slates</a>
<a href="http://www.portraitsofanimals.com">Pet Portraits by Cherie</a>

Theus

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Mar 15, 2001, 1:45:21 AM3/15/01
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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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To each his own, but I find it possibly the worst all time Yes song of
all time, IMHO.


John Hopkins

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Mar 15, 2001, 7:39:45 AM3/15/01
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"Steven Sullivan" <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in message
news:ZQSr6.1579$AS6....@grover.nit.gwu.edu...
> Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:

> : <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>

The X-Men movie didn't spur any such run for back issues, 1960s or
otherwise. But the pre-1970 books are always in demand.

> : First issue would bring in $25 grand. No ?
>
>
> In mint condition, in a good market, maybe.
>
> Values of comics have plummeted compared to the frenzy of some years back.
> I'm gonna wait another decade or two before I sell my Fantastic Four #1 ;>

Silver Age (especially the early part) stuff still commands impressive
prices, but only for the upper echelon in condition. This is one case where
the comics back-issue market shakeout has actually worked for the better, as
previously the assumption was that copies going down the condition scale
should be based on the price of a near-mint. Now it's more sensible, even
though it means I missed my chance at getting some interest on my
'investments.'

Now that I'm actively trying to get rid of my remaining collection, it seems
clear the fun was in the hunting. Having them sitting around in boxes (30 of
them at the height!) just seems pointless, especially when I've got a new
telescope that needs accessories........


Yers,
/John
http://www.darkhop.com/


Paul Goodwin

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Mar 15, 2001, 12:04:15 AM3/15/01
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Len Richards wrote in message ...
>I heard the alt.music.yes newsgroup today, Oh boy, about "Paul
>Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> who made this post:
>>
>>Len Richards wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>Flame on!
>>>>
>>>Far be it for a Richards to stretch the point, but I don't see what
>>>you're on about....
>>>
>>
>>Johnny Storm-- the "Human Torch"
>>
>>unnerstand? ;-))
>>
>Far be it for a Richards to
>stretch [Reed Richards - Mr Fantastic]
>the point,
> but I
>don't see [Sue Storm Richards - The Invisible Girl]
>what
>you're on about....
>
>
>Use the psychic powers and all becomes clear, Paul.
>
>
>Len Richards
>owner of the all-seeing Bifocals Of Aggamotto
>

Nothing is very clear at the moment Len, I'm suffering from a horrific cold


thats sweeping my building, most people here have had it for 2 flippin weeks
or more, it's a doozy, so the hot toddies had to be brought in, and your
references to the other FF went zoooming right over my head ;-))


Paul--choo!.


Jeremy S.

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Mar 15, 2001, 3:58:36 PM3/15/01
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In article <lK2s6.18220$DY.65...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>,

John Hopkins <dar...@home.com> wrote:
>"Steven Sullivan" <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in message
>news:ZQSr6.1579$AS6....@grover.nit.gwu.edu...
>> Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> : <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>
>
>The X-Men movie didn't spur any such run for back issues, 1960s or
>otherwise. But the pre-1970 books are always in demand.

Well, that's Marvel's fault. When the movie came out, they didn't
captitalize well on the comic book conection, and therefore didn't draw in
any new readers, which could have had people looking for these earlier
issues.


>Now that I'm actively trying to get rid of my remaining collection, it seems
>clear the fun was in the hunting. Having them sitting around in boxes (30 of
>them at the height!) just seems pointless, especially when I've got a new
>telescope that needs accessories........

Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
books.....

--Jeremy

InElegy

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Mar 15, 2001, 5:49:43 PM3/15/01
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:25:08 -0500, "Paul Goodwin"
<pgoo...@home.com> shared with the class:


>
>the "worst all time Yes song of all time" huh....wow that *is* pretty bad
>;-))
>
>Personally I find, in no particular order:
>
>Saving My Heart
>Angkor Wat
>Be The One
>Wonderlove
>No Way We Can Lose
>Love Will Find A Way
>
>to be worse. -- at least COL had some nice dynamics live, & they must have
>liked it because they brought it back for the Talk tour....

How "Dangerous" can be left off of a "worst of" list baffles the
imagination.

----------------------------------------------

"I think Yes-fans are often deluded too, or at the very least lack perspective."
-- Steven Sullivan in alt.music.yes, 10/11/2000

"Hell, if we were so vicious, I would have had a belly full of Vietnamese who had been trespassing on my land.
Yes, we, the Samoans were once cannibals. I could've devoured all seven of them and not let one person or anyone know about it."
-- Sauimoana Faleafine Ulu Ufuti Hatcher 2/23/2001

Paul Goodwin

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Theus wrote in message ...
>
>"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:98pion$356i4$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de...
>>
>> Theus wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
>> >news:98ncht$2nmrd$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de...
>> >>
>> >> Theus wrote in message ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I can't honestly picture any semi talented guitar player or bass
>> >player
>> >> >finding that song much of a challenge.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ....which is sort of a meaningless statement. The same can be said for
>> the
>> >> majority of the Beatles catalogue, but that doesn't lessen the
>importance
>> >of
>> >> the work.
>> >>
>> > So you like City of Love?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> It worked better live but yes I do.
>> Blows away a lot of other Yessongs that come to mind.
>>
> To each his own, but I find it possibly the worst all time Yes song of
>all time, IMHO.
>
>

the "worst all time Yes song of all time" huh....wow that *is* pretty bad
;-))

Personally I find, in no particular order:

Saving My Heart
Angkor Wat
Be The One
Wonderlove
No Way We Can Lose
Love Will Find A Way

to be worse. -- at least COL had some nice dynamics live, & they must have
liked it because they brought it back for the Talk tour....


Paul


Paul Rogers

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Mar 15, 2001, 5:40:40 PM3/15/01
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"Jeremy S." wrote:

> In article <lK2s6.18220$DY.65...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>,
> John Hopkins <dar...@home.com> wrote:
> >"Steven Sullivan" <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in message
> >news:ZQSr6.1579$AS6....@grover.nit.gwu.edu...
> >> Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> : <<Time to get some of my 60's Spidey issues ready for ebay.>>
> >
> >The X-Men movie didn't spur any such run for back issues, 1960s or
> >otherwise. But the pre-1970 books are always in demand.
>
> Well, that's Marvel's fault. When the movie came out, they didn't
> captitalize well on the comic book conection, and therefore didn't draw in
> any new readers, which could have had people looking for these earlier
> issues.

Yeah. Actually, what irked me as a long-time X-collector was Marvel "cashing" in
on the Matrix type effects (good movie that it was, albeit typical 3-scene
narrative), not acknowledging that the whole thing was based on a 1970's
Adams/Thomas comic...Xmen 63 (to some extent) and then they had the gall to
change the classic X-men logo on the recent comics covers to try and attract the
new readers that didn't exist thereby alienating the established readership.
Lenil Francis Yu sux too.
Anyway, thank Gawd that Claremonts off the main title, Marvel have relaced the
classic logo and we'll see what brilliance Morrison ad Quietly can come up with.
I'm still a bit pissed off with Quietly's departure from "The Authority" as that
was really going somewhere. Expect to see regular fill-in issues on the X book
cos that chappee Frank certainly dosn't have a great rep for meeting monthly
deadlines.

>
>
> >Now that I'm actively trying to get rid of my remaining collection, it seems
> >clear the fun was in the hunting. Having them sitting around in boxes (30 of
> >them at the height!) just seems pointless, especially when I've got a new
> >telescope that needs accessories........

Collector mentality indeed. I'm often dismayed at how few times I go back and
re-read things in my collection too.
Back when the first (Keaton) Batman was about to be launched I jumped on the
speculator bandwagon and off-loaded a huge number of Bat books for some good
dollars. Since then the bottom has most definitely hit the bedrock as far as
back issue sales go.

>
>
> Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
> books.....

aint that a fact. Phone cards LOL.

paul


Jeremy S.

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Mar 15, 2001, 10:16:10 PM3/15/01
to
In article <3AB144E8...@aut.ac.nz>,

Paul Rogers <paul....@aut.ac.nz> wrote:
>"Jeremy S." wrote:
>> In article <lK2s6.18220$DY.65...@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>,
>> John Hopkins <dar...@home.com> wrote:
>> >"Steven Sullivan" <sull...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> wrote in message
>> >news:ZQSr6.1579$AS6....@grover.nit.gwu.edu...
>> >> Cherie <summ...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >The X-Men movie didn't spur any such run for back issues, 1960s or
>> >otherwise. But the pre-1970 books are always in demand.
>>
>> Well, that's Marvel's fault. When the movie came out, they didn't
>> captitalize well on the comic book conection, and therefore didn't draw in
>> any new readers, which could have had people looking for these earlier
>> issues.
>
>Yeah. Actually, what irked me as a long-time X-collector was Marvel "cashing" in
>on the Matrix type effects (good movie that it was, albeit typical 3-scene
>narrative), not acknowledging that the whole thing was based on a 1970's
>Adams/Thomas comic...Xmen 63 (to some extent) and then they had the gall to
>change the classic X-men logo on the recent comics covers to try and attract the
>new readers that didn't exist thereby alienating the established readership.


Well, they had to try to draw the readers in somehow. I think that the
Spider-Man movie might be a little easier for Marvel to draw some people
in with. Even using the "Ultimate" Spider-Man to reestablish a fan base
would work pretty well.


>Anyway, thank Gawd that Claremonts off the main title, Marvel have relaced the
>classic logo and we'll see what brilliance Morrison ad Quietly can come
>up with.


Well, I stopped reading the X-Men titles a few years back. The titles I
liked where the ones not too tied into the continuity (Mutant X &
X-Men: The Hidden Years) which they are both cancelling. I just couldn't
follow the soap opera any more.


>I'm still a bit pissed off with Quietly's departure from "The
>Authority" as that was really going somewhere.


I had just started picking up a few of "The Authority" when I head the
news. Nertz. But really it's just any superhero group with a "take no
prisoners" attitude. Their viciousness got turned up a notch, but nothing
new there.


> Expect to see regular fill-in issues on the X book
>cos that chappee Frank certainly dosn't have a great rep for meeting monthly
>deadlines.


It could be worse and they do what they did with Daredevil.


>> >Now that I'm actively trying to get rid of my remaining collection, it seems
>> >clear the fun was in the hunting. Having them sitting around in boxes (30 of
>> >them at the height!) just seems pointless, especially when I've got a new
>> >telescope that needs accessories........
>
>Collector mentality indeed. I'm often dismayed at how few times I go back and
>re-read things in my collection too.


Sometimes when a storyline is done I'll reread the comics. I had reread a
bunch of recent "Starman" comics, which was really good. I may go back
over Alan Moore's "Top 10" when I get the chance.

But really, you keep getting new stuff, who has time to reread the old
stuff?


>Back when the first (Keaton) Batman was about to be launched I jumped on the
>speculator bandwagon and off-loaded a huge number of Bat books for some good
>dollars. Since then the bottom has most definitely hit the bedrock as far as
>back issue sales go.


You should have seen the prices of some of the Star Wars stuff people were
unloading pre-Episode I. I know I made about $200 or so unloading my old
action figures.

I did resell some of the "death of Superman" books right before he was
coming back & made a little bit of money.


>> Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
>> books.....
>
>aint that a fact. Phone cards LOL.


Trust me, there are far worse things than that. My father in-law has a
huge "office" in his house with a lot of baseball memorabilia. Most of I
can understand, but there are some things that are kinda scary, like:

-industrial-size mustard jars with stadium logo's on them
-boxes of Wheaties four or five rows deep
-Coca-Cola cans with stadium logos
-actual corn from the Field of Dreams in Iowa

and oh so much more.

--Jeremy

Paul Goodwin

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InElegy wrote in message ...

>>
>How "Dangerous" can be left off of a "worst of" list baffles the
>imagination.
>


yours maybe--
I don't mind the song, why I'd put it on *my* "worst of" list baffles the
imagination....... ;-)

Paul


Theus

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> Theus wrote in message ...
> >
> > COL is still worse.
> >
>
> no it's not....
> ....my dad could take your dad no problem THEUS!
> rofl!
>
Says you!!!!!!!!! My Pa can kick your dad's ass in his sleep!!!!!!!!!
Heh heh.


Theus

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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so-so

> Angkor Wat

so-so

> Be The One

I like it.

> Wonderlove

Really bad.

> No Way We Can Lose

Sort of bad.

> Love Will Find A Way

A decent pop song.

>
> to be worse. -- at least COL had some nice dynamics live, & they must have
> liked it because they brought it back for the Talk tour....

COL is still worse.

Paul Goodwin

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Theus wrote in message ...
>
> COL is still worse.
>

no it's not....
....my dad could take your dad no problem THEUS!
rofl!


Paul


Hugh Macpherson

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> Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
books.....

Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and Art of
Noise singles.

Hugh

Hugh Macpherson

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> Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
books.....

Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and Art of
Noise singles.

Hugh

Hugh Macpherson

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Agreed, they did. I've got lots of early AoN vinyl to prove it.

But by the umpteenth reworking of Close to the Edit, I'd kinda lost the
will to live. Note that you don't diasagree with me and that collecting
Buggles singles is worse than comic books.

Regards

Hugh


Theus

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"Hugh Macpherson" <hugh...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> wrote in message
> news:OMss6.10746$TW.4...@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> >
> > "Hugh Macpherson" <hugh...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3ab1e...@news2.vip.uk.com...
> > >
> > > > Trust me, there are worse things in the world to collect than comic
> > > books.....
> > >
> > > Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and
> Art
> > of
> > > Noise singles.
> > >
> > What's wrong with that that? Art of Noise did some very interesting
> > stuff.
>
> Agreed, they did. I've got lots of early AoN vinyl to prove it.

I like all there stuff, but remixes can be a bit much, at times. It can
spread a song out too long so that it becomes monotonous. Note, not all
remixes are bad. I've heard some very good one, but others are a bit much.


>
> But by the umpteenth reworking of Close to the Edit, I'd kinda lost the
> will to live. Note that you don't diasagree with me and that collecting
> Buggles singles is worse than comic books.

I like the Buggles. Very nice light weight pop. Still, I wouldn't
bother with the singles unless they had something unique on them. Did you
get some of their picture singles?

Paul Goodwin

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Theus wrote in message ...
>
>
> I like the Buggles. Very nice light weight pop. Still, I wouldn't
>bother with the singles unless they had something unique on them. Did you
>get some of their picture singles?
>

but would you say the same thing if they were unrelated to Yes?
The Buggles truthfully sound not a heck of a lot different than a myriad of
other "New Wave" bands of that era, most which you'd likely disavow in a
heartbeat....


Paul
--
"Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I
can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that but not with all
those flies and death and stuff." - - Mariah Carey


Theus

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> Theus wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> > I like the Buggles. Very nice light weight pop. Still, I wouldn't
> >bother with the singles unless they had something unique on them. Did
you
> >get some of their picture singles?
> >
>
> but would you say the same thing if they were unrelated to Yes?
> The Buggles truthfully sound not a heck of a lot different than a myriad
of
> other "New Wave" bands of that era, most which you'd likely disavow in a
> heartbeat...
>
Hardly, I enjoy a lot of New Wave. I enjoy the Police, Tears For Fears,
The Fixx, Dire Straits and many others. I think it all makes rather
pleasant pop music. It is a hell of a lot more intelligent and more
interesting than metal at the same period in time. Still, it isn't nearly
as good as prog, but that is merely my humble opinion.


Yes ELP kCrimson

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Paul Goodwin wrote:
<< but would you say the same thing if they were unrelated to Yes? The Buggles
truthfully sound not a heck of a lot different than a myriad of other "New
Wave" bands of that era, most which you'd likely disavow in a heartbeat....
>>

... Are you making fun of my Mr. Mister collection again?! ;-)

NP: Mr. Mister _Goon..._

(sorry, that should be _Go On..._ )


--
'Yes ELP kCrimson'

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Paul Goodwin

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Theus wrote in message ...
>
>"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:991ppv$45d0r$1...@ID-46095.news.dfncis.de...
>>
>> Theus wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >
>> > I like the Buggles. Very nice light weight pop. Still, I wouldn't
>> >bother with the singles unless they had something unique on them. Did
>you
>> >get some of their picture singles?
>> >
>>
>> but would you say the same thing if they were unrelated to Yes?
>> The Buggles truthfully sound not a heck of a lot different than a myriad
>of
>> other "New Wave" bands of that era, most which you'd likely disavow in a
>> heartbeat...
>>
> Hardly, I enjoy a lot of New Wave. I enjoy the Police, Tears For
Fears,
>The Fixx, Dire Straits and many others. I think it all makes rather
>pleasant pop music. It is a hell of a lot more intelligent and more
>interesting than metal at the same period in time. Still, it isn't nearly
>as good as prog, but that is merely my humble opinion.
>
>

Well I guess inevitably our preferences must part.......I hate "pleasant pop
music", I like my music to be first and foremost---- Great and challenging
vocals. Thats why I love Yes so much, and always will. I've seen Jon close
to 50 times, and he's never let me down vocally, although for sure I've seen
him whan he was struggling a bit, but he was always *on key* and giving it
his all, or pretty damn close to it. The only other vocal "artistes" that
can generally do that for me are Tony Bennet (no joke, I've seen him half a
dozen times and he is astonising in his technique and delivery-----go to
Napster and download "When The Bells Ring For Me"--- its an obscure song but
it will send shivers down your spine) and some of the metal singers, Halford
(in his prime he was vocally untouchable) and in many ways, some of the
70's and early 80's metal songs could quite easily fit the description of
"progressive" as defined in a recent thread.......

Paul

Theus

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"Paul Goodwin" <pgoo...@home.com> wrote in message
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A lot of New Wave was heavily influenced by the art rock movement that
came before it. Probably the music that owes the most to prog next to AOR
and New Age music.

The only other vocal "artistes" that
> can generally do that for me are Tony Bennet (no joke, I've seen him half
a
> dozen times and he is astonising in his technique and delivery-----go to
> Napster and download "When The Bells Ring For Me"--- its an obscure song b
ut
> it will send shivers down your spine)

Can't stand that form of music.

and some of the metal singers, Halford
> (in his prime he was vocally untouchable) and in many ways, some of the
> 70's and early 80's metal songs could quite easily fit the description of
> "progressive" as defined in a recent thread.......

My problem with metal is it sound extremely formulaic to my ears.
Basically endless riffing with the occasional guitar solo thrown on top. Now
some of the musicians may very well be skilled, but the music they are
playing rarely demands more than the occasional difficult guitar solo, at
best. I prefer music to have nuiances of either sound, rhythm or melody.
The more ovariety of these the song has, the better. Metal is usually
lacking in all three, IMHO. I like some AOR and neoprog, but then that
isn't realy metal and it isn't really great prog either.


CountV/John T

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On 1-03-16 19.12, Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> uploaded to the Usenet, for all
the world to see, the following:

> "Hugh Macpherson" <hugh...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3ab1e...@news2.vip.uk.com...

>> Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and Art of
>> Noise singles.
>>

> What's wrong with that that? Art of Noise did some very interesting
> stuff.

And their The Seduction of Claude Debussy from 1999 is one of the more
'progressive' albums of the nineties, if you take it to mean music that is
original, intelligent, complex, well-arranged and that develops themes
continuously throughout its length. You could certainly do worse in these
times of repetitive verse-chorus-verse structures and limited imaginations
and ambitions. It's immaculately produced, too.

And besides, Close to the Edit is still a damn classic.

--
CountV/John T
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happier than those who can't." - Stephen Fry
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Fabian J Lelo

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Speaking of Mr Mister has anybody heard that awful cover of Take These
Broken Wings? I'm sick of all these covers coming out these days. It just
can't touch the original.

It's good to see another Kiwi in here.

FVD - The Whole F'n Show.
--
- Yeah, everything up here, please. And a bit more monitor if you got it.
Ah?
-(...everything louder than everything else.)
- Yeah, can we have everything louder than everything else? Right.
Ian Gillan

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Theus

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> On 1-03-16 19.12, Theus <mejs...@netcom.ca> uploaded to the Usenet, for
all
> the world to see, the following:
>
> > "Hugh Macpherson" <hugh...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3ab1e...@news2.vip.uk.com...
>
> >> Agreed - I have a small corner of my loft where I hide my Buggles and
Art of
> >> Noise singles.
> >>
> > What's wrong with that that? Art of Noise did some very interesting
> > stuff.
>
> And their The Seduction of Claude Debussy from 1999 is one of the more
> 'progressive' albums of the nineties, if you take it to mean music that is
> original, intelligent, complex, well-arranged and that develops themes
> continuously throughout its length. You could certainly do worse in these
> times of repetitive verse-chorus-verse structures and limited imaginations
> and ambitions. It's immaculately produced, too.

I bought that just after Christmas. It took a couple of listens, but I
think it'll grow on me more and more. The best stuff always does.


>
> And besides, Close to the Edit is still a damn classic.

So true.


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