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Ivan "Maximus" Lendl

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Dec 3, 2009, 10:35:02 PM12/3/09
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What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?

It has to the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra. John
McLaughlin and Billy Cobham are monsters on guitar and drums
respectively. Rick Laird and Jerry Goodman give great support on bass
and violin. And Jan Hammer is excellent on keyboards.

Digitaldreamdoor list Mahavishnu Orchestra as the greatest rock
ensemble ever.
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html

This is what allmusic says about the album

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kcfyxqugldte

Though much was made of the influence of jazz-influenced improvisation
in the Mahavishnu band, it is the rock element that predominates,
stemming directly from the electronic innovations of Jimi Hendrix. The
improvisations, particularly McLaughlin's post-Hendrix machine-gun
assaults on double-necked electric guitar and Jerry Goodman's flights
on electric violin, owe more to the freakouts that had been
circulating in progressive rock circles than to jazz, based as they
often are on ostinatos on one chord.

keifspoon

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Dec 3, 2009, 11:05:43 PM12/3/09
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McLaughlin's previous band The Tony Williams Lifetime with Larry Young
and later Jack Bruce weren't to shabby either. They got the whole Jazz/
Rock thing going, and set the stage for the more polished Mahavishnu
Orchestra. The first band to combine the virtuosity of Jazz with the
volume and energy of Rock. Though they weren't recorded great, they
were supposedly an incredible live band. Carlos Santana called them
the best live act he's ever witnessed. And Jack Bruce said they were
the best band he's ever been a part of. High praise indeed.

Mahavishnu in full flight Germany 1972

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-EBcF1u9Y

Chet

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Dec 3, 2009, 11:50:10 PM12/3/09
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The most virtuostic rock/jazz fusion album ever

Group: alt.music.yes Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2009, 7:35pm From:
zepf...@gmail.com (Ivan "Maximus" Lendl)
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*THE FLYING GLOVE* SHOWED YOU HERE.

YOU AND THESE MARCHING HAMMERS CAN GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM.

Ivan "Maximus" Lendl

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:29:58 AM12/4/09
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yeah I have seen this. great performance.

DGDevin

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:37:30 AM12/4/09
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Ivan "Maximus" Lendl wrote:

>> Mahavishnu in full flight Germany 1972
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P-EBcF1u9Y
>
> yeah I have seen this. great performance.

The concert-virgin says it was a great performance, now is that irony or
what?


bubba

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:11:02 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 11:29 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MUSIC

bubba

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:11:15 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 9:35 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?
>
> It has to the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra. John
> McLaughlin and Billy Cobham are monsters on guitar and drums
> respectively. Rick Laird and Jerry Goodman give great support on bass
> and violin. And Jan Hammer is excellent on keyboards.
>
> Digitaldreamdoor list Mahavishnu Orchestra as the greatest rock
> ensemble ever.http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html

>
> This is what allmusic says about the album
>
> http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kcfyxqugldte
>
> Though much was made of the influence of jazz-influenced improvisation
> in the Mahavishnu band, it is the rock element that predominates,
> stemming directly from the electronic innovations of Jimi Hendrix. The
> improvisations, particularly McLaughlin's post-Hendrix machine-gun
> assaults on double-necked electric guitar and Jerry Goodman's flights
> on electric violin, owe more to the freakouts that had been
> circulating in progressive rock circles than to jazz, based as they
> often are on ostinatos on one chord.

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MUSIC

Jeff

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:02:02 AM12/4/09
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Don't be a bully. At least he is attempting to talk about
music besides Led Zeppelin. I give him credit for
that. He's making progress.

Jeff

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:39:18 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 9:35 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?
>
> It has to the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra. John
> McLaughlin and Billy Cobham are monsters on guitar and drums
> respectively. Rick Laird and Jerry Goodman give great support on bass
> and violin. And Jan Hammer is excellent on keyboards.
>
> Digitaldreamdoor list Mahavishnu Orchestra as the greatest rock
> ensemble ever.http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html

>
> This is what allmusic says about the album
>
> http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kcfyxqugldte
>
> Though much was made of the influence of jazz-influenced improvisation
> in the Mahavishnu band, it is the rock element that predominates,
> stemming directly from the electronic innovations of Jimi Hendrix. The
> improvisations, particularly McLaughlin's post-Hendrix machine-gun
> assaults on double-necked electric guitar and Jerry Goodman's flights
> on electric violin, owe more to the freakouts that had been
> circulating in progressive rock circles than to jazz, based as they
> often are on ostinatos on one chord.

This does not count for anything, but I love the Jeff Lorber Fusion,
before Jeff went solo. I think the album is called "Fusion Juice"
with the song "Reflections" on it. As a solo artist, Jeff ruined
this beautiful song..in my opinion.

Jeff

Arthur Whatley

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Dec 4, 2009, 7:40:09 AM12/4/09
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"Ivan "Maximus" Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:460635fb-ca19-4915...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?

Raja and the Vag Lubers?

Arthur Whatley

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Dec 4, 2009, 7:41:30 AM12/4/09
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> Don't be a bully. At least he is attempting to talk about
> music besides Led Zeppelin. I give him credit for
> that. He's making progress.

He's nothing but a useless troll.

6sicks...@gmail.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:04:47 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 10:35 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?
>
> It has to the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra. John
> McLaughlin and Billy Cobham are monsters on guitar and drums
> respectively. Rick Laird and Jerry Goodman give great support on bass
> and violin. And Jan Hammer is excellent on keyboards.
>
> Digitaldreamdoor list Mahavishnu Orchestra as the greatest rock
> ensemble ever.http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html

>
> This is what allmusic says about the album
>
> http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kcfyxqugldte
>
> Though much was made of the influence of jazz-influenced improvisation
> in the Mahavishnu band, it is the rock element that predominates,
> stemming directly from the electronic innovations of Jimi Hendrix. The
> improvisations, particularly McLaughlin's post-Hendrix machine-gun
> assaults on double-necked electric guitar and Jerry Goodman's flights
> on electric violin, owe more to the freakouts that had been
> circulating in progressive rock circles than to jazz, based as they
> often are on ostinatos on one chord.

If you're asking for people's opinions it doesn't "HAVE TO BE"
anything. Why is that concept so hard for you to grasp?

6sicks...@gmail.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:06:49 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 9:04 am, "6SickStri...@gmail.com" <6sickstri...@gmail.com>
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> anything. Why is that concept so hard for you to grasp?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh, and by the way, the correct answer is "You Can't Do That Onstage
Anymore Volume II, the Helsinki Concert" by Frank Zappa.

In my opinion.

Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny.

Ivan "Maximus" Lendl

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Dec 4, 2009, 11:38:06 AM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 8:04 am, "6SickStri...@gmail.com" <6sickstri...@gmail.com>
wrote:

stop being an asshole for once.

6sicks...@gmail.com

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:19:08 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 11:38 am, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> stop being an asshole for once.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Talking to yourself there sparky? You've got dozens of folks offering
you that very advice every day.

Howldog

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Dec 4, 2009, 12:40:15 PM12/4/09
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:38:06 -0800 (PST), Ivan "Maximus" Lendl wrote:


> stop being an asshole for once.


said the guy most accused of being an asshole in every single group he
crossposts into.

Isnt it time for you to leave again?

richforman

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Dec 4, 2009, 2:40:38 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 3, 10:35 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What do you think is the most virtuostic album ever?
>
> It has to the Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra. John
> McLaughlin and Billy Cobham are monsters on guitar and drums
> respectively. Rick Laird and Jerry Goodman give great support on bass
> and violin. And Jan Hammer is excellent on keyboards.

It's a great classic album, extremely influential and a great listen,
to be sure. "Most virtuosic" is a laughably meaningless phrase but
anyway - yeah. There are lots of other great jazz fusion albums very
loosely in this same stylistic neighborhood from this era too.

> Digitaldreamdoor list Mahavishnu Orchestra as the greatest rock

> ensemble ever.http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_inst.html


>
> This is what allmusic says about the album
>
> http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:kcfyxqugldte
>

I like reading allmusic and others' reviews but I don't use them to
prove anything or argue a case, just read them for my own enjoyment
and edification. Yes Hendrix' influence sings out in McLaughlin's
lead playing.

> The improvisations... owe more to the freakouts that had been


> circulating in progressive rock circles than to jazz, based as they
> often are on ostinatos on one chord.

I'm not so sure about that - the use of the word "ostinatos" seems
kind of gratuitous, but more importantly, improvisational explorations
"on one chord" had been the basis of a whole school of jazz (modal)
since before rock was around - since "Kind of Blue."

richforman

progea

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Dec 4, 2009, 8:26:41 PM12/4/09
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Fuse off, Raja!

bubba

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:09:25 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 10:38 am, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> stop being an asshole for once.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MUSIC GAY MONKEY BOY

progea

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