> Why must a person (Pino) who replaces some one (John) be an exact carbon copy? > Can't they be themselves.?? > Granted Thunderfingers was the best bassist, but why can't people accept a > replacement? > I mean, if you don't like it, don't listen, enough said.. Leave it to those of > us who do enjoy it.. > The Who aren't going to be with us in any form for much longer so enjoy it > while you can.
> Let's face it. This band is a is a Who covers band at this point. They're > being paid to go up and imitate their old songs the best they can. They're > not a free form jazz Quintet. Pino should imitate John the best he can or > find a new gig.
> "Mysticon" <mysti...@aol.com> wrote in message > news:20040506202400.28410.00000003@mb-m28.aol.com... > > Why must a person (Pino) who replaces some one (John) be an exact carbon > copy? > > Can't they be themselves.?? > > Granted Thunderfingers was the best bassist, but why can't people accept a > > replacement? > > I mean, if you don't like it, don't listen, enough said.. Leave it to > those of > > us who do enjoy it.. > > The Who aren't going to be with us in any form for much longer so enjoy it > > while you can.
In article <RH5nc.2072$KE6....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "JD Miller" <jd_mil...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Kenny Jones playing can hardly be called brillant! His style is far from > Zaks too. Kenny is too mechananical and lacks any power. The Who couldn't > play many songs they wanted to because Kenny didn'y have the ability. Kenny > did a fair job in 1979-80 and a poor job in 1981-82. I have heard almost > know one say they would rather have Kenny then Zak. A drum machine in slow > motion= Kenny Jones. JD
This may be partially true, but Jones, and many Who albums entirely, suffered from recording engineering unbefitting the Who. On Face Dances, Jones' drums were recorded very tight, dull, and dry---gave them a very small, dead sound. And they were mixed very badly, with the hats way too up front, and way too dry, for example. You can tell his playing was actually pretty intense (tho definitely not Moon's style), it was just filtered out with inappropriate engineering. I think in part this production approach was the style for that time (new wave era), and also carried over into live performances as well, but it was all wrong for the Who.
Pino is a little too much on the fretless/jazzy side but i thought they were great last time i saw them, at Madison Square Garden, with him. I like Starkey and having see Kenny Jones a few times, feel he is a tremendous improvement over him. I also did not like the guy who followed Jones, who seemd to do too much (i forget his name). Starkey seems a good fit emotionally and image-wise. This is maybe where Pino is lacking, but the guy who really helped them last time out was Simon Townshend. When i saw them on the last tour with John Entwistle, i really noticed the lack of harmonies. This was a Who trademark as much as anything and it hurt not to have it. Simon is perfect. I hope he's still with them. I havent kept up on latest developments but figure i'll wrangle a ticket to MSG.
> Remember Pete's comment when Pino first joined: "I asked to to play very, > very loud". If he's consistantly so low in the mix, whose fault is it?
So Pino leaps from the stage, runs to the mixing board, turns himself down, and then climbs back onstage to continue playing? The volume of an instrument is controlled by the sound engineer, not the player himself, if Pino was consistently playing very soft or turning his own amp down either the engineer would turn him up in the P.A. or let the rest of the band know so they could ask Pino what he was doing. If Pino is low in the mix it's because the engineer has been told to keep him there. Pete might want Pino to play loud enough to fill the stage, but that's another issue from filling a 20,000 seat amphitheatre, no instrumental player can do that when he's competing with a 50,000 watt P.A. system.
Mind you, considering how inept the Who's crew appears to be at times, maybe they're just screwing up Pino's levels along with all the other stuff they screw up, like the earphone monitors, Pete's stage monitors, Pete's guitars, and so on....
I thought Pino was adequate enough until I listened to my old Live At Leeds album recently. Then I realized what The Who are now lacking. They've lost their guts. They need someone who can attack the strings harder and drive the band....not someone who is just providing a representation of the bass line. He has no passion.
