Rock bands that I will never get
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
all on Greatest artist of rock list.
http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
These are the bands I have issues with: I don't hate them, but I don't
why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
majority of their songs are unmemorable.
1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
instantly forgettable. And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
flawless by any means
2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
for so fucking long.
3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
manufactured boring soft rock shit.
8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
Averageshit.
10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
someone kicked him in the balls.
12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
Superdave
beach boys r great. the eagles are the best.
voxverus
wrote:
> Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
Cut, no paste....
Pretty broad swath.
It's like the Montreal Jazz Fest that has opened its doors so wide it
is only a Jazz fest in segments.
Rock has over the years has embraced everything from easy listening
pop to hip crap hop.
So, how do you even define rock these days?
Thus ends the epistle....
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
> beach boys r great. the eagles are the best.
This you say after hearing Eagles greatest hits. Thats what 15 songs?
Have you heard their 100 other stinky songs?
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'd like too hear ONE of your songs.
Please post.
Superdave
we judge Fed by the 15 slams he has won. not the basel or parises he
has lost.
Manco
mope-heads from Oxford.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
I am not a musician. That doesn't mean I cannot appreciate bands which
have consistently made great music and criticize bands which hardly
made great music.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
> we judge Fed by the 15 slams he has won. not the basel or parises he
> has lost.
completely wrong analogy. songs aren't prestige assigned events where
you have to perform.
Superdave
Have you seen Mel Brooks "Young Frankenstein" ?
Fun movie.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
> Have you seen Mel Brooks "Young Frankenstein" ?
>
> Fun movie.
great movie!
Superdave
yeah cracked me up
Jeff
wrote:
> Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
Because they sold A LOT of recordings.
> http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
>
> These are the bands I have issues with:
I couldn't care less. I have my own problems..but go ahead.
I don't hate them, but I don't
> why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> instantly forgettable.
Help me Rhonda is forgettable? Hey, I'm not much into the
Beach Boys either....but this tune plays on in my head,
whether I like it or not.
And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
I don't care for it..Blah.
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Never heard them. Heard of them.
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
Same here.
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
I like one of their songs.
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
Rambling man is the one I remember.
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
Ohio is good.
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
I like 3 of their songs. I would rather listen to Bread any day.
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
Yep.
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
Toys in the Attic was just okay.
>
> 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
I like one song.
> 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> someone kicked him in the balls.
Their new album is better.
> 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
Okay if you're in the right mood.
> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
Yep.
> 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
I don't remember one song.
> 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
I don't remember one song.
> 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
I like some of their songs. Thing is though, it's best to just
listen to what you like instead of compiling these lists.
Kind of a waste of time.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
life is a waste of time ;-) good to see you agree with me. I thought
not many would ;-)
Superdave
from my experience having sex is the best way to waste it though.
ermitano
wrote:
good for you! you don't have to spend money buying their albums.
progea
Gavin Christie
has one."
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Eric Ramon
wrote:
make one of your "favorite" lists and it's pretty much my list of
bands *I* don't get. Led Zep, Pink Floyd, ELP...who else do you like?
I probably hate 'em.
Eric Ramon
and add King Crimson and Black Sabbath. Two more bands I'll happily
avoid.
Wendell T. Stamps
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
ELP, I dont care for much. But they had loads of talent. And they
could compose songs if they wanted to... for example Lucky Man. They
are highly infamous these days.
Pelle Svanslös
> Muse has never released a bad album, and they ROCK unlike those whiney
> mope-heads from Oxford.
Fuck the Muse.
JohnB
> 1) The Beach Boys -
Their Greatest Hits is all you need. Some fabulous stuff there (Good
Vibrations, Heroes And Villains, God Only Knows, etc.) but Pet Sounds
is way over-rated in my opinion. There does seem to be a critics love-
in for Brian Wilson, don't you think?
>
> 2) U2
Moments of brilliance, moments of pompous posturing. Rarely boring and
they put on a good show, but they're often just that far away from
irritating the hell out of me.
> 3) The Grateful Dead
Most of their stuff has dated badly, I think. You need to sit in a
field with a load of stoned hippies to get what they're about. I have
heard one or two of their songs done well by others though.
>
> 4) Van Halen
Passes me by completely. I couldn't name a thing.
>
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band
Most people in the UK (including me) only know Jessica and that only
because it's the theme to Top Gear on the BBC.
>
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young
Being a lover of good harmonies, I find plenty to enjoy in CSN(&Y). I
probably prefer them without Young.
>
> 7) The Eagles
They found a formula that appealed to certain grown-ups and milked it.
I can take it in small doses but that's all. They're one of those
bands that I can't imagine ever had a "young" audience.
>
> 8) R.E.M
Dull? Maybe you've listenend to the wrong stuff. The End Of The World
and The One I Love are great songs and there's some other listenable
stuff, but they were a critics favourite and it seemed they could do
no wrong at one point.
>
> 9) Aerosmith
I really could never be bothered with this macho-posturing stuff. At
least that's how I remember it.
>
> 10) The Police
The Police (and Sting solo) tend to polarise opinion like few others.
You love 'em or you hate 'em. I actually quite enjoy a lot of their
stuff and Sting, although he can come over as a bit too fond of
himself, is intelligent and worth listening to.
>
> 11) Pearl Jam
If I have heard them, I didn't notice.
>
> 12) The Band
The Band reached deep into the roots of American music, Americana-rock
if you like, and maybe that's why you don't get them. They always
struck me as a band you should listen to in black and white (or maybe
sepia tint).
>
> 13) Jefferson Airplane
See what I said about the Dead above.
>
> 14) Talking Heads
To understand Talking Heads I think you have to get the character
DAvid Byrne plays. I try to imagine him as an escapee from a
psychiatric ward and then it starts to make sense! I think there are
plenty of memorable songs and they seemed to me to be punk-but-the
opposite-to-punk if that makes any sense.
>
> 15) Radiohead
Too clever for their own good. I get depressed listening to OK
Computer so I don't.
>
> 16) Chicago
I know only a couple of hits and they were a bit too "easy listening"
for me.
Other artists I don't get:
Prince
Guns'n'Roses
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Whitesnake
AC/DC
Lenny Kravitz
Iggy Pop
Hawkwind
Oasis
Cheap Trick
viper
"Ivan "Maximus" Lendl" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
> http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
>
> These are the bands I have issues with: I don't hate them, but I don't
> why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> instantly forgettable. And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
>
breaking music like the Beatles. Pet Sounds ? You have to be joking...
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Have to agree, as boring as batshit. The band seems to be a vehicle for
Bono's
numerous 'causes'. And WTF is the 'Edge'. Just goes to prove that the Irish
are
loopy alcoholics
.>
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
The drugs never made the music any more appealing. 60's durge
>
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
Love this genre, could be called the poor man's Black Sabbath, Deep Purple
or Led Zep. A reminder that the 80's was possibly more fucked than the 70's.
Include Bon Jovi and that impossibly fucking nasally challenged Axl Rose
with
this lot
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
Rolling Stone had the temerity to nominate Duane Allman as the 2nd best
guitarist of all time. Enough said..
>
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
Good harmonies and a couple of good albums
>
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
Yep, country rock, what a crock of shit. You heard one song, you heard em
all.
Jethro
>
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
Agreed
>
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
Invented rap didn't they ?
>
snip the rest, one could go to sleep
Viper
globular
> Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
> http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
>
> These are the bands I have issues with: I don't hate them, but I don't
> why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> instantly forgettable. And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
Because of when they were largely and Brian Wilson.
>
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Never liked them.
>
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
Don't mind some early stuff, but haven't heard a lot.
>
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
enough said
>
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
>
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
>
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
Don't mind them really. I don't mind some 70s groups that don't sound
like 80s heavy metal.
>
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
>
Here I have issues, 'alternative rock nonsense', they date from 1982!
earlier for some people. Like them a lot on and off over the years.
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
>
> 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
Hate that rhythm style.
>
> 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> someone kicked him in the balls.
90s crap.
>
> 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
>
> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
Really like their early stuff before Grace Slick!
>
> 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
Not my kind of new wave.
>
> 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
>
Obscure to me.
> 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
From an era you seem to not get at all.
Wendell T. Stamps
You're a vag luber.
Char1ie
wrote:
>> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
>
>Really like their early stuff before Grace Slick!
>>
Yeah, right.
The world didn't even know who Jefferson Airplane was until Grace came
along. They had made one LP which was only popular based on the
explosion that Grace created. Who are you? Signe Anderson's brother?
globular
I prefer the earlier songs on the compilation I have. Something about
the sound of 1966.
Twenty years ago I really liked Somebody To Love, a bit used to it now.
Though I never heard The Great Society's version either.
Jeff
"Feeling Stronger Every Day" is my favorite Chicago song. I couldn't
think of the name of it last night.
Jeff
You took the words right out of my mouth Eric.
Jeff
6sicks...@gmail.com
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I don't think you actually appreciate music at all. You like shiney
hair and tight pants and smoke bombs and bullshit. If you really
'don't get' all of those bands, the problem is you, not the millions
of other people who do.
But we all knew that already.
Jeff
I like to listen to "Freebird" once in a while...the new band version.
I like some songs off "Blank and White" (is that the name of it?)
by Cheap Trick, cause I love the sound they get. "Downed"
could almost be a Beatles song.
6sicks...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am not a big fan of Eddit Van Halen, but he pretty much nailed it in
the latest issue of guitar world. (that's a magazine for people who
actually make music instead of shitting all over someone else's
work.)
I can't remember his exact words, but it goes something like this:
Music is self expression, it's not the olympics. If you like something
that's great, if you don't like it, don't listen to it and shut the
fuck up about it.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
wrote:
He probably hates Van Halen's music ;-)
bubba
bubba
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 6:40 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > beach boys r great. the eagles are the best.
>
> This you say after hearing Eagles greatest hits. Thats what 15 songs?
> Have you heard their 100 other stinky songs?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
PLEASE SHUT UP
bubba
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 6:51 pm, BLACKPOOLJIMMY <Blackpoolji...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 7:48 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
>
> > Please post.
>
> I am not a musician. That doesn't mean I cannot appreciate bands which
> have consistently made great music and criticize bands which hardly
>
> - Show quoted text -
YOU MUST BE BRAIN DEAD
bubba
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 7:34 pm, Superdave <the.big.rst.kah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Have you seen Mel Brooks "Young Frankenstein" ?
>
> > Fun movie.
>
> great movie!
YOU ARE A RETARD
bubba
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 8:17 pm, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 6:33 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> > > all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
>
>
> > > These are the bands I have issues with:
>
>
>
> > > why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> > > majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> > > 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> > > rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> > > instantly forgettable.
>
> > Beach Boys either....but this tune plays on in my head,
> > whether I like it or not.
>
>
> > > only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> > > from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> > > flawless by any means
>
>
> > > beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> > > some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> > > are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> > > for so fucking long.
>
>
> > > endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
>
>
> > > 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> > > many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> > > Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
>
>
> > > their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> > > compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
>
>
>
>
> > > 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> > > manufactured boring soft rock shit.
>
>
>
>
> > > 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> > > Averageshit.
>
>
> > > junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> > > albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
>
>
> > > 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> > > genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> > > someone kicked him in the balls.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> > > gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> > > was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> > > not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> > > Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> > > what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
>
>
> > > I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> > > stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
>
>
>
> > I like some of their songs. Thing is though, it's best to just
> > listen to what you like instead of compiling these lists.
> > Kind of a waste of time.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
YOU ARE A TOTAL RETARD
bubba
>
> - Show quoted text -
WHAT A TOTAL MORON
Peach
>
> - Show quoted text -
Agree with you about King Crimson..... or most "prog rock." Bleh.
Peach
Peach
>
> - Show quoted text -
Chicago was actually the first show I saw as a teen....I had my
doubts, as I wasn't a big fan, but they put on an amazing concert.
Fantastic musicians, all of them..... (and they didn't play all their
"Adult Contemporary" nonsense.)
Peach
Ivan Maximus Lendl
>
> > 1) The Beach Boys -
>
> Their Greatest Hits is all you need. Some fabulous stuff there (Good
> Vibrations, Heroes And Villains, God Only Knows, etc.) but Pet Sounds
> is way over-rated in my opinion. There does seem to be a critics love-
> in for Brian Wilson, don't you think?
Same thoughts...
>
> > 2) U2
>
> Moments of brilliance, moments of pompous posturing.
Agreed but those moments were 20 years ago.
> Rarely boring and
> they put on a good show, but they're often just that far away from
> irritating the hell out of me.
>
> > 3) The Grateful Dead
>
> Most of their stuff has dated badly, I think. You need to sit in a
> field with a load of stoned hippies to get what they're about. I have
> heard one or two of their songs done well by others though.
>
>
>
> > 4) Van Halen
>
> Passes me by completely. I couldn't name a thing.
>
> > 5) The Allman Brothers Band
>
> Most people in the UK (including me) only know Jessica and that only
> because it's the theme to Top Gear on the BBC.
>
> > 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young
>
> Being a lover of good harmonies, I find plenty to enjoy in CSN(&Y). I
> probably prefer them without Young.
>
> > 7) The Eagles
>
> They found a formula that appealed to certain grown-ups and milked it.
> I can take it in small doses but that's all. They're one of those
> bands that I can't imagine ever had a "young" audience.
Actually posers who think they like rock music )and cant take the
volume of hard rock bands) find Eagles to be rawkwing.
Well, he gives me a headache.
>I think there are
> plenty of memorable songs and they seemed to me to be punk-but-the
> opposite-to-punk if that makes any sense.
>
> > 15) Radiohead
>
> Too clever for their own good. I get depressed listening to OK
> Computer so I don't.
Exactly
>
> > 16) Chicago
>
> I know only a couple of hits and they were a bit too "easy listening"
> for me.
>
> Other artists I don't get:
>
> Prince
Not my style at all...
> Guns'n'Roses
They have some good songs on their debut. Nighttrain, Paradise City,
Sweet Child Of Mine. Then later on November Rain, Estranged and
McCartney cover Live and Let Die which was done very well. They might
be too violent for your taste.
> Lynyrd Skynyrd
Agreed, a few good songs. Way too redneck for me. Hearing "Lord" in
every song annoys the hell out of me.
> Whitesnake
I have heard their ealier blues rock in the late 70s was good. But I
havent heard it yet.
> AC/DC
Easily one of the greatest bands ever! So many great anthems... Its A
Long Way to the Top, T.N.T., Highway to Hell, Back in Black, Dirty
Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, You Shook Me All Night Long. After Back in
Black they lost it. But until then they were the best hard rock band
of the late 70s.
> Lenny Kravitz
This guy is a joke
> Iggy Pop
Dont get The Stooges either.
> Hawkwind
Space Ritual will blow you away. Lemmy and Simon King are probably the
best rhythm section ever.
> Oasis
Very annoying.
> Cheap Trick
Dont know much and I am sure wouldnt care about them.
Rodjk #613
I saw Chicago along with Earth, Wind and Fire just a few months ago.
It was a great show...
Rodjk #613
Jeff
> On Nov 23, 7:57 pm, Eric Ramon <ramon.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> > > all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
>
> > > These are the bands I have issues with: I don't hate them, but I don't
> > > why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> > > majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> > > 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> > > rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> > > only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> > > from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> > > flawless by any means
>
> > > beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> > > some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> > > are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> > > for so fucking long.
>
> > > endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
>
> > > many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> > > Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
>
> > > their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> > > compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
>
>
> > > manufactured boring soft rock shit.
>
>
> > > Averageshit.
>
> > > junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> > > albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
>
> > > genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> > > someone kicked him in the balls.
>
>
>
> > > gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> > > was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> > > not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> > > Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> > > what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
>
> > > I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> > > stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
>
>
> > bands *I* don't get. Led Zep, Pink Floyd, ELP...who else do you like?
> > I probably hate 'em.
>
> and add King Crimson and Black Sabbath. Two more bands I'll happily
> avoid.
I like "Sweet Leaf" by Sabbath.
Jeff
They have a lot of good music if you just pick out a couple
of songs and listen, but my problem with them is like one of
the most recent McCartney albums: All the songs sound
so much the same.
Peach
>
> > Chicago was actually the first show I saw as a teen....I had my
> > doubts, as I wasn't a big fan, but they put on an amazing concert.
> > Fantastic musicians, all of them..... (and they didn't play all their
> > "Adult Contemporary" nonsense.)
>
> > Peach
>
> They have a lot of good music if you just pick out a couple
> of songs and listen, but my problem with them is like one of
> the most recent McCartney albums: All the songs sound
>
> -
It's that signature Chicago horn section... I do know what you're
saying. I like some of the lesser known songs like "Lowdown" and
"Dialogue (Part I & Part II)" etc.....
Peach
Ivan Maximus Lendl
King Crimson was the most weirdo of the prog bands. Totally pointless
for the most part. Apart from Red and the debut album, they really
were clueless what they were up to. Another problem is that they never
had a good songwriter in the band except Lake in the first album.
ELP had better songwriters and could actually right songs one can
remember. But the problem with them was they had no restraint
whatsover. Their primary focus was showcasing skills at the expense of
songwriting.
Genesis' main issue was Peter Gabriel was retarded, plain and simple.
No one knew what the F was he upto. Dressing up as a flower? Gimme a
break. Their songs wandered endlessly courtesy Gabriel's never-ending
retarded "stories". Also they were never a rocking band... which meant
people slept through their concerts.
Now Yes, they were different. Anderson, Squire, Howe, Bruford and
Wakeman knew how to write songs. They all had solo careers and were
quite successful at that. Bruford and Wakeman provided thoughtful
parts to the bands. They were never extremely flashy even though they
had the skills to. Anderson had an amazing voice which shined (I cant
think of any other word) under Squires sparkling bass and Howe's
classical guitar.
Its kind of unfortunate Yes are clubbed with second rate asshole bands
like ELP/Genesis/King Crimson. I honestly think Rush was better than
those three even if they came later. They took the hard rock of Led
Zeppelin/Who and combined with thoughtful art rock of Yes/Pink Floyd.
Sometimes it worked sometimes it didnt. But they make some top notch
material. Others so called prog bands like Jethro Tull/Moody Blues
were very inconsistent even if they could write songs. And also one
dimensional.
Yes is clearly a league above these clowns (Genesis/ELP/King Crimson).
And in the league of rock giants like Pink Floyd if not better. I
personally think Yes made more quality albums than Floyd did.
Frank from Deeeetroit
wrote:
> Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
> http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
>
> These are the bands I have issues with: I don't hate them, but I don't
> why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> instantly forgettable. And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
Beach Boys began being good with "Don't Worry Baby" and ended with
"Good Vibrations" in my opinion Isn't Pet Sounds about 29 minutes
long?
>
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Their album they recorded with BB King and inside Sun Studios rocked.
>
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
Saw them at the Palace of Auburn Hills about 15 years ago. The Dead
walked on stage, began jamming, played for about 2 1/2 - 3 hours, then
walked off of the stage as if the audience was never ni the room.
>
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
Eddie was a new influence on guitar players.
>
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
Listen to the Alman Brothers Live at Fillmore East. Not many live
albums can top this one. Duane was one of the best rock guitarists.
>
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
>
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
Maybe they took country rock worldwide?
>
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
>
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
>
> 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
>
> 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> someone kicked him in the balls.
>
> 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
>
> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
>
> 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
>
> 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
>
> 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
They took the jazz/horn section influence of Blood Sweat and Tears to
the nth degree.
bubba
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STILL SUCKING DICK?
The Nice Mean Man
You left out Ted Nugent. One can only bang their head against the
floor for so long, you know....
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
Does anyone consider Ted Nugent great? redneck, yes, great no.
bubba
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YOU SWALLOW CUM
who?
I'm not familiar with those songs to comment. How many albums
have they made? About 50? I like that song: "Come hold me
close never release me" lyrics. I like some of their songs.
Reminds me of my childhood.
Jeff
who?
Maybe, but they also copied the Beatles somewhat. I just could never
really get into them. Is there any songs I might like that aren't too
long? I admit I don't know that much about them, and maybe my
tastes have changed.
JohnB
> On Nov 24, 10:29 am, Peach <strawbe...@lpbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>
> > Agree with you about King Crimson..... or most "prog rock." Bleh.
>
> King Crimson was the most weirdo of the prog bands. Totally pointless
> for the most part. Apart from Red and the debut album, they really
> were clueless what they were up to. Another problem is that they never
> had a good songwriter in the band except Lake in the first album.
>
> ELP had better songwriters and could actually right songs one can
> remember. But the problem with them was they had no restraint
> whatsover. Their primary focus was showcasing skills at the expense of
> songwriting.
Both these bands were at their peak (in terms of popular acclaim)
during the early 70s and I was aware of both but could hardly remember
anything by them until I invested in "best of" compilations over the
last year or two. On the strength of these, I'd say King Crimson were
the better in terms of ideas and song-writing (though I would say
they're more of an "ideas" band than a "songs" band). I find that the
ELP tracks I remember best were reworkings of classical tracks
(Fanfare For The Common Man, Hoedown).
>
> Genesis' main issue was Peter Gabriel was retarded, plain and simple.
> No one knew what the F was he upto. Dressing up as a flower? Gimme a
> break. Their songs wandered endlessly courtesy Gabriel's never-ending
> retarded "stories". Also they were never a rocking band... which meant
> people slept through their concerts.
>
I take it you've never seen Genesis live? No, of course you haven't.
Gabriel is a very intelligent man and has written many memorable
songs. The weird stage outfits were meant to add theatrical effect to
the stage show and were, I suppose, misguided, but at least he was
trying something. The story songs were, to many, Genesis' strength,
but I confess (as someone who pays attention to lyrics) they didn't
always hold the attention. However, musically from Selling England
through to Abacab, they were a tremendous band with plenty of
imagination and very strong song-writing. Selling England and Trick Of
The Tail are two of my favourite prog albums. - And they could rock:
Dancing Out With The Moonlit Knight, Turn It On Again, Mama. Sorry,
Raja, your bias is showing again.
> Now Yes, they were different. Anderson, Squire, Howe, Bruford and
> Wakeman knew how to write songs. They all had solo careers and were
> quite successful at that. Bruford and Wakeman provided thoughtful
> parts to the bands. They were never extremely flashy even though they
> had the skills to. Anderson had an amazing voice which shined (I cant
> think of any other word) under Squires sparkling bass and Howe's
> classical guitar.
>
I don't think of Yes as a "songs" band apart from a few exceptions.
Mostly they constructed rambling pieces full of "clever" instrumental
work with Jon Anderson's frequently inane lyrics just a small part of
the whole - and as for Anderson's voice, well, I've always found him
strained and lacking any real depth. Still, there's much to like, just
(as I've said before) I could pick a dozen (maybe less) Yes tracks and
they would contain all I'd ever want to hear.
> Its kind of unfortunate Yes are clubbed with second rate asshole bands
> like ELP/Genesis/King Crimson. I honestly think Rush was better than
> those three even if they came later. They took the hard rock of Led
> Zeppelin/Who and combined with thoughtful art rock of Yes/Pink Floyd.
> Sometimes it worked sometimes it didnt. But they make some top notch
> material. Others so called prog bands like Jethro Tull/Moody Blues
> were very inconsistent even if they could write songs. And also one
> dimensional.
Now I know you say it's only opinion but when you come out with
sentences like the one that starts that paragraph, you don't do
yourself any favours. Second rate? I hardly think so. I think all
three you mention would find more supporters than Rush (though it may
be a close call except for Genesis). Rush's vocals make the band
unlistenable for me.
Now I must take you to task for what you say about Jethro Tull.
Firstly, they started as a blues band and then developed to take in
musical influences from folk and world music as well as rock, and most
would say "prog" is not the right label for them, but to call them
"one dimensional"? Now that is silly. You compare the blues of Benefit
with the rock that appears on Aqualung, with the folk-influences of
Songs From The Wood, with the electronic sounds of Under Wraps, not to
mention the sprawling monsters of Thick As A Brick or Passion Play;
you really do need to be more careful with your sweeping
generalisations or you'll look even more of a fool than you already
do.
>
> Yes is clearly a league above these clowns (Genesis/ELP/King Crimson).
> And in the league of rock giants like Pink Floyd if not better. I
> personally think Yes made more quality albums than Floyd did.
In your opinion, yes...
I, of course, beg to differ...
do...@webtv.net
Ivan Lendl (right) mentioned The Beach Boys.
The stuff SEEMED simplistic...but Brian Wilson did things
musically...with chords and sounds that are considered 'amazing'
musically.
I'm not a musician...but THEY could explain it better.
I agree with The Dead and Allman Bros.
I had to leave each of their concerts 'back in the day' (don'tcha just
LOVE that phrase? :-) cuz it seemed like a 3 hour jam.
Some others...you miss the groundbreaking stuff...which is
important...like Chicago bringing 'horns' into rock.
MANY groups...brought...'HORNY' into rock...but HORNS...Chicago.
:-)
Happy Thanksgiving to U.S. folks.
do...@webtv.net
Lendl spoke of The Eagles 'stinky songs'.
The words of an educated music critic...NOT.
do...@webtv.net
'The Eagles' are GREAT as well.
So some of their songs sound similar.
People say that about The Who.,,
do...@webtv.net
Superdave asked:
"Have you seen Mel Brooks "Young Frankenstein" ?
Fun movie."
I saw it when it came out...the joys of being 86 years old.
'A-B-normal'...'Walk this way'...'EYE-gore'...brilliant.
Mel is brilliant.
Marty Feldman...RIP
do...@webtv.net
Jeff gave good, honest comments about the bands.
Ah, to be a kid again. :-)
do...@webtv.net
Superdave said:
"we judge Fed by the 15 slams he has won. not the basel or parises he
has lost."
Indeed. Roger is the best of all-time.
I'm sure that you know 'Superdave' is Albert Brooks' older brother, and
their real name is 'Einstein'.
Albert Brooks was born Albert Einstein...no pressure THERE. :-)
Albert Brooks is great...as is Superdave.
do...@webtv.net
John B. couldn't remember any Van Halen,,,
How about 'Jump'?
Allman's...'Ramblin' Man'?
do...@webtv.net
I agree with a lot of Viper's comments...but about the Beach Boys...he
said:
"God how the yanks so wanted this barber shop quartet to make ground
breaking music like the Beatles. Pet Sounds ? You have to be joking..."
Not joking. Musicians KNOW how groundbreaking this stuff is.
It just IS.
As I've said before...I'm not a musician...but those who ARE...know the
exact reasons.
Yes, they had harmonies...but so much more.
do...@webtv.net
Bubba said to Lendl:
'AND NOW YOU MUST DIE'.
Possibly, but still a bit harsh.
:-)
do...@webtv.net
Lendl said:
"Don't get "The Stooges" either."
Moe was the lead joker.
The Nice Mean Man
>
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True. I didn't read your entire post. I only read your first sentance.
So fucking bugger me. Or die trying....
So WHY don't you dig the Dead and the ABB's long extended jams? You
put up with Jimmy Page's mind-grating bow playing for 25 minutes
during most any live performance of Whole Lotta Love? And then there's
Yes. They take 20 minutes to express what The Brothers could express
in two. I love Yes. Don't get me wrong. But they're just as long-
winded as these others, especially in concert.
The Nice Mean Man
keifspoon
voice for so long.
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
Just shows how much you know about Zep. He did violin bow on guitar on
Dazed and Confused and How Many More times. Whole Lotta Love had
theremin riffs.
> And then there's
> Yes. They take 20 minutes to express what The Brothers could express
> in two. I love Yes. Don't get me wrong. But they're just as long-
> winded as these others, especially in concert.
Dead were a one note band. Yes and Zep were talented and could compose
and improvise in their jams. ADD sufferers won't get them.
>
> The Nice Mean Man
who?
> I never got Yes or Pink Floyd. And I only can take Robert Plant's
> voice for so long.
I feel the same way you do. You're not alone. What
about Sgt Pepper? I never got that.
Jeff
bubba
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SHUT UP GAY LITTLE INDIAN MONKEY BOY
Manitou
> Ok, I'll play the game (I must be bored).
>
>
> Vibrations, Heroes And Villains, God Only Knows, etc.) but Pet Sounds
> is way over-rated in my opinion. There does seem to be a critics love-
> in for Brian Wilson, don't you think?
>
>
> Moments of brilliance, moments of pompous posturing. Rarely boring and
> they put on a good show, but they're often just that far away from
> irritating the hell out of me.
>
> > 3) The Grateful Dead
>
> Most of their stuff has dated badly, I think. You need to sit in a
> field with a load of stoned hippies to get what they're about. I have
> heard one or two of their songs done well by others though.
>
>
>
> > 4) Van Halen
>
> Passes me by completely. I couldn't name a thing.
>
>
> because it's the theme to Top Gear on the BBC.
>
>
> probably prefer them without Young.
>
> > 7) The Eagles
>
> They found a formula that appealed to certain grown-ups and milked it.
> I can take it in small doses but that's all. They're one of those
> bands that I can't imagine ever had a "young" audience.
>
>
>
> plenty of memorable songs and they seemed to me to be punk-but-the
> opposite-to-punk if that makes any sense.
>
> > 15) Radiohead
>
> Too clever for their own good. I get depressed listening to OK
> Computer so I don't.
>
>
> I know only a couple of hits and they were a bit too "easy listening"
> for me.
>
> Other artists I don't get:
>
> Prince
> Lynyrd Skynyrd
> Whitesnake
> AC/DC
> Lenny Kravitz
> Iggy Pop
> Hawkwind
> Oasis
> Cheap Trick
I don't agree with the Original Ivan/Raja list. most of the acts in
the original post have been around for years if not decades and have a
body of work that has genetrated a great deal of really good music
over the years. Some misses along the way? - you bet. So has Yes,
Floyd, The Who etc. You can't put out that much music and expect
everything to be brilliant.
This second list however I tend to agree with. these were all bands of
very questionable talent from the start and never did anything to rise
above the below mediocre stage. Prince has some chops on the guitar
but I would never buy a disk of his.
RichL
It's a matter of perspective, I think.
I'd find it hard to agree about your comment of "very questionable
talent" in these acts. In fact, I can't agree that any of them are
untalented. Some of them aren't my thing, but that's different from an
objective assessment. In fact, I find something to like about seven of
the ten. But that's just me.
richforman
> On Nov 23, 8:17 pm, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 6:33 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> > > all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
>
> > >http://digitaldreamdoor.nutsie.com/pages/best_artistsddd.html
>
> > > These are the bands I have issues with:
>
>
> > I don't hate them, but I don't
>
> > > why they are considered so good. I like few of their songs, but
> > > majority of their songs are unmemorable.
>
> > > 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> > > rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> > > instantly forgettable.
>
> > Beach Boys either....but this tune plays on in my head,
> > whether I like it or not.
>
> > And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
>
> > > only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> > > from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> > > flawless by any means
>
>
> > > 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> > > beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> > > some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> > > are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> > > for so fucking long.
>
>
> > > 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> > > endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
>
>
> > > 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> > > many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> > > Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
>
>
> > > 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> > > their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> > > compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
>
>
> > > 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
>
>
> > > 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> > > manufactured boring soft rock shit.
>
>
> > > 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
>
>
> > > 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> > > Averageshit.
>
>
> > > 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> > > junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> > > albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
>
>
> > > 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> > > genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> > > someone kicked him in the balls.
>
>
> > > 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
>
>
> > > 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
>
>
> > > 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> > > gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> > > was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> > > not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> > > Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> > > what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
>
>
> > > 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> > > I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> > > stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
>
>
> > > 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
>
> > listen to what you like instead of compiling these lists.
> > Kind of a waste of time.
>
> "Feeling Stronger Every Day" is my favorite Chicago song. I couldn't
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FWIW I love 70's Chicago, I "will never get" how some people (esp.
music critics!) don't dig them, to me their music is so soulful,
gritty and intelligent, their sound and their compositions so
original, powerful and emotional and it just swung. But that's how it
goes, not all of us like the same stuff, that's really all there is to
it! Their albums from that era, V and X come to my mind especially,
are troves full of rocking gems, but just listen to their late-70's
greatest hits collection, pretty much all of them are just the cream
of the era IMO in terms of top 40 singles, they have more depth and
class than just about anything that was going down on the singles
charts.
richforman
Scott F.
wrote:
> Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> all on Greatest artist of rock list.
I have nothing to contribute, except to say that this is one of the
best threads I've seen in a long time...
Ivan "Maximus" Lendl
Thanks buddy
Peach
> I never got Yes or Pink Floyd. And I only can take Robert Plant's
> voice for so long.
What baffles me is....I loved Zeppelin in college. Now....well, I feel
the same way about Plant's voice that you do. Gah, please tell me it's
not old age.
Peach
stuth...@comcast.net
>
> > AC/DC
>
> Easily one of the greatest bands ever! So many great anthems... Its A
> Long Way to the Top, T.N.T., Highway to Hell, Back in Black, Dirty
> Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, You Shook Me All Night Long. After Back in
> Black they lost it. But until then they were the best hard rock band
> of the late 70s.
>
AC/DC is rock for 9-year olds. Since I was older then 9 when they
first came out, I could never stand them.
Their riffs are simplistic, and their lyrics embarassing.
Same for KI$$.
t...@aerovons.com
I'm a sucker for Chicago, pretty much all eras. The brass lines with
the little bends just kill me ;)
Great singing and melody writing...instant recognition...good stuff.
You're right, "class" is a great way to describe it.
TH
Peach
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Yep, the brass section makes that band..... I still love the bridge in
"Feeling Stronger Every Day." I can listen to that over and over....
("After what you've meant to me........ooh baby, now I can make it
easily.") The way the horns build there...fantastic.
Peach
bubba
wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:06 pm, "Scott F." <sfe...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 23, 6:33 pm, "Ivan \"Maximus\" Lendl" <zepflo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Never get the fact why they are highly rated...For example they are
> > > all on Greatest artist of rock list.
>
> > I have nothing to contribute, except to say that this is one of the
> > best threads I've seen in a long time...
>
> > Scottwww.audioworkspro.com
>
> Thanks buddy
KILL YOURSELF
richforman
>
> Now Yes, they were different. Anderson, Squire, Howe, Bruford and
> Wakeman knew how to write songs. They all had solo careers and were
> quite successful at that. Bruford and Wakeman provided thoughtful
> parts to the bands. They were never extremely flashy even though they
> had the skills to. Anderson had an amazing voice which shined (I cant
> think of any other word) under Squires sparkling bass and Howe's
> classical guitar.
>
> Its kind of unfortunate Yes are clubbed with second rate asshole bands
> like ELP/Genesis/King Crimson. Yes is clearly a league above these clowns (Genesis/ELP/King
> Crimson). And in the league of rock giants like Pink Floyd if not better. I
> personally think Yes made more quality albums than Floyd did
Odd to say, but I agree with you on this Rudge. I love Yes and have
no use at all generally for ELP, prog-era Genesis (I like the hit
singles from their later Collins/pop incarnation), King Crimson, or
Pink Floyd, even though they are all commonly "lumped together" in
people's minds. Well it goes to show how useless labels are. And I'd
still prefer you didn't post. I do love Adrian Belew's solo stuff
that I know, I have about 3 of his cd's I think and none of them have
anything that I can hear, to do with Crimson.
richforman
Superdave
check out little richard with bo diddley on the guitar. you'll feel
lots better.
Nutella
wrote:
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
>
I own Summer Days (and Summer Nights), I had rec'd great
reviews.....but I think it is substandard.
Same with "Today!".....substandard.
They have more poor material than great material. But, the great
stuff....is worth it all.
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Bands that are great Live, and come across way too preachy, get too
much
credit for having some very mediocre albums. U2 has been exponentially
getting
worse as the years go by. Take the albums POP and Zoorops....good
God.
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
Laid back Hippy music says Dave Marsh, and I agree.
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
They were a good band while the real greats were not touring. David
Lee Roth called
it the "Gap" theory in an interview with Friday Night Videos in 1984.
When the greats
were active, Van Halen got lost. But, Sammy Hagar brought them up to
speed with adults,
and they made some relevant music with him.
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
Love them when I am in a certain mood.
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
Better with Young. Young gave their music balls. Good harmonies,
good songwriters, but way too preachy.
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
They saw America do it. They saw David Gates do it with Bread.
Formulaic,
but the public will buy KISS records, so there you go.
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
They had some cutting-edge songs, but, again.....overly preachy.
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
Too many albums.....too few good songs.
> 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
They did have their share of filler. But, they had a great sound. They
made
good singles that had substance.
> 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> someone kicked him in the balls.
Gotten progressely worse in the studio since 10.
> 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
Forgotten. Long forgotten.
> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
Solid band.
> 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
As cutting edge as it gets in the late 70's early 80's. They created
new music.
Grooving band.
> 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
Agreed.
> 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
Love them up to 1980. Cetera wasn't my cup of tea.
Might I add one of my own.
17) KISS - Music for the suckers of marketing ploys.
Peach
>
> > 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
>
> Love them up to 1980. Cetera wasn't my cup of tea.
>
But Cetera was there all along.... 1980 is when they "got tight" with
David Foster. Blame him. ;-)
Peach
Jim Beam
18- Gin Blossoms/ Very dull, I change the station as soon as they
come on.
19- Def Leppard/ Same as above.
Chicago, when they first came out were very good, but got lovey-dovey.
Van Halen, the same way and got worse when Hagar joined, the guitar
solos
all sound the same.
richforman
The loss of Terry Kath tore much of the band's unique soulfulness from
them, to my ears. A lot of their 80's material, and some of what they
are doing right up to today (I bought my wife their album remarkably
titled XXX when it came out a few years back and we gave it a couple
spins in the car) is still enjoyable to hear and admirably ambitious
and well-crafted, but it's not the same, something is missing, it's
slicker, more consciously commercial, lacking the idealism and spirit
that made their 70's stuff really special.
richforman
ocean
wrote:
>
> 1) The Beach Boys - some of their melodic songs are the best made in
> rock music. But then there is so much of simplistic trash which is
> instantly forgettable. And in spite of releasing one gazillion albums,
> only one of them is considered a stone cold classic (Pet Sound). Even
> from that album, I only like few songs. I do not find Pet Sounds
> flawless by any means
Don't like them.
> 2) U2 - Okay half of Joshua Tree is pretty good. Achtung Baby is
> beyond boring (though it has a couple of good songs). And they had
> some other great hits in the 80s. But beyond that most of their albums
> are complete junk. And they have been making the same sounding music
> for so fucking long.
Like them.
> 3) The Grateful Dead - Deadly boring. Yawn inflicted jams that go
> endless. I never understood what people found in this band.
Don't like them.
> 4) Van Halen - simply the most overrated hard rock band out there. How
> many great songs did they make? 5? 10 max... can't be more than that.
> Apart from an average debut, every other album of their sucked.
Like them.
> 5) The Allman Brothers Band - not as boring as The Grateful Dead, but
> their wanking was endless. I am not sure even their best of
> compilation will have more than 5 memorable songs.
Don't like them.
> 6) Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Yawn with a capital Y.
Don't like them.
> 7) The Eagles - How did this clowns sell this much? Totally
> manufactured boring soft rock shit.
I LOVE The Eagles......
> 8) R.E.M - Never got this alternative rock nonsense. Amazingly dull.
Like them.
> 9) Aerosmith - Average with a capital A. They should call themselves
> Averageshit.
Like them.
> 10) The Police - A few hummable songs. The band was skilled but what
> junk they made... Do do do, da da, da... fuck you! None of their
> albums are consistent. Even their best album is only 50% good.
Like them.
> 11) Pearl Jam - Nirvana, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were all more
> genuine. These are grunge posers with a lead singer who sings as if
> someone kicked him in the balls.
Like them.
> 12) The Band - a highly skilled band but boring music
Don't like them.
> 13) Jefferson Airplane - Average, mildly interesting songs.
Don't like them.
> 14) Talking Heads - never got this songs. Lead singer is awful and
> gives you a headache when you listen to him. I dig the bassist, she
> was kinda cute and could play some good bass. But again the songs are
> not at all memorable. Except may be Psycho Killer and Once In a
> Lifetime. I was hearing Remain in Light the other day and couldnt get
> what the fuss is all about. A total geek band for geeks.
Don't like them.
> 15) Radiohead - DULLARDs with a capital D. Yeah they experimental, but
> I dont give a fuck about their pseudo intellectual nonsense. Can't
> stand their constant whiny mope rock shit.
Like them.
> 16) Chicago - except few songs on debut, these guys were horrible.
Don't like them.
Dale Houstman
> Don't like them.
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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My dog could write a more interesting post...
dmh
who?
I like Chicago fine, Rich...in small doses, and the reason is
because so many of their songs sound the same. My
parents....believe it or not love them much more than
I do, and they are in their 80's. I suppose I could come
up with varies songs of different eras...and compile
a CD of songs I wouldn't get bored with. It's funny how
tastes change though, I used to pretty much dislike
Bread...but all these years later I love their music.
I even like one song by Van Halen: "Jamie's C
Jeff Blanks
> I just could never
> really get into [Yes]. Is there any songs I might like that aren't too
> long? I admit I don't know that much about them, and maybe my
> tastes have changed.
Any one of the following three:
"Perpetual Change"
"Roundabout"
"Siberian Khatru"
All (just) under nine minutes. If you don't like these, I'm not sure
it'd be worth pursuing things further. (On second thought, "Astral
Traveller" comes in under six minutes.)
--
"When someone serves you coffee, don't go looking for beer in it."
--Anton Chekhov
Jeff Blanks
> I like Chicago fine, Rich...in small doses, and the reason is
> because so many of their songs sound the same.
Are you just talking about the radio hits? They were MUCH, MUCH deeper
than that once upon a time. Some of their early albums (especially the
first and third) sound like they came from the type of band that would
never expect to have a hit single, even though they have obvious singles
on them.
Jeff Blanks
music.
Jeff Blanks
> I like that song: "Come hold me
> close never release me" lyrics.
"Just You 'n' Me", from *VI*.
> I like some of their songs. Reminds me of my childhood.
Yeah. :-) I went back to it a year or two ago and it still holds up.
who?
> "who?" <yourimageunre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I like that song: "Come hold me
> > close never release me" lyrics.
>
> "Just You 'n' Me", from *VI*.
>
> > I like some of their songs. Reminds me of my childhood.
>
> Yeah. :-) I went back to it a year or two ago and it still holds up.
Jeff, has their music changed that much the last ten years? I
haven't kept track of what they've released the last 20
years. Time just goes by so fast.
>
> --
> "When someone serves you coffee, don't go looking for beer in it."
> --Anton Chekhov
Jeff
Superdave
<jbl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>I like shiny hair and tight pants and smoke bombs AND I appreciate great
>music.
r you gay ?
do...@webtv.net
Bubba said:
"SHUT UP GAY LITTLE INDIAN MONKEY BOY"
How could anyone not like Bubba? :-)
who?
> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:57:10 -0500, Jeff Blanks
>
> >I like shiny hair and tight pants and smoke bombs AND I appreciate great
> >music.
>
> r you gay ?
How would it effect your life if he was?