Movement in Still Life

[Nick]

I have a question, is the US or UK version of this BT album better? I
already have the UK version that came out a while ago... but I was looking
through Media Play a week ago and saw the US version. There are a few
different songs on it, such as Never Gonna Come Back Down, Smartbomb, and
Love on Haight Street. Are these any good, and is it worth it to buy the
entire cd again?

[Paul Warnes]

The general consensus on the BT network (http://www.bt-network.org/) is no.
What I can remember from the messageboard is that it's quite a bit shorter
than the original UK release (have a look at the discography and look at
times for the same tracks - nearly all the UK tracks are longer than the US
ones) and it's only one CD, whereas the UK re-release is two.

Unless you're after the full set (UK / Japan / Hong Kong / NZealand / US /
UK etc) ...I'd buy the UK re-release if I were you.

paul.

[Shokuzin]

BT's gone rap or hip hop in a lot of tracks on the U.S. version. But all of it
is good despite my dislike for hip hop. "Never gonna come back down" is a damn
fine tune in my opinion and is recieving a frequent airplay on 107.7 the end
(An alternative rock radio station in Seattle.)

[Erika RollerGirl]

Flipping through Mademoiselle magazine today in the checkout line at the store
and I caught a short article on BT, believe it or not. I believe it was a whole
section on "hot" musicians. Eek. Anyways, they said something like "BT has made
an album for the masses" and then they proceeded to quote some lyrics from
Satellite.
Is this the beginning of the end?
*sigh*
Erika RollerGirl
~*If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution*~Emma Goldman,
anarchist

[Shokuzin]

Let us give (and grieve) a moment of silence for the gaining popularity.. Of..
Paul Van Dyk.. And Brian.. Transeau..

[moviefactory]

Shokuzin <shok...@aol.comwhoa> wrote in message
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> Let us give (and grieve) a moment of silence for the gaining popularity..
Of..
> Paul Van Dyk.. And Brian.. Transeau..

I think the overground has caught up with the underground..So I don't think
it'll take long B4 we see PVD on Top of the Pop's...But I don't understand
why you wanna Grieve.....If people get into Dance music by way of ATB to PVD
to Sasha to Ritchie Hawtin to Goldie..Whats the problem..It makes our scean
stronger..It's a bit of a selfish attitude to take,wanting to keep Trance
music (or any music for that matter) to yourself??..I hope I have got the
right end of the stick here..If not I apologise.

[Don Cool]

It may sound selfish for a person to want to keep a type of music or artist
to themselves but it is not uncommon for people to feel that way. I reckon
it's coz the enjoyment of music is an intensely personal activity and when
an artist/music is little known then liking that artist/music makes you part
of an exclusive set of people that are 'in the know'. It can almost become a
statement of who you are as an individual; part of your identity.

But when the artist/music becomes popular, then mainstream, when the world
and his brother are getting off on it, this bond or identity dissipates
because you couldn't possibly have anything in common with a kid or a
middle-aged housewife from Milton Keynes. You find that the gigs become
massive and sell out within 10 seconds, the tunes you love get their arses
caned off on tv and radio and people who know bugger all about the artist
start spouting off about how much they love them just coz they bought one cd
in the supermarket.

I would never begrudge PVD or BT bigger success than they already have and
people have the right to enjoy music any way they see fit. I just don't
think I want to hear their music on tv all the time. I don't mind a bit of
PVD on Match Of The Day (UK Soccer programme for the benefit of our US
cousins!) but the amount of programmes and adverts that have raided Moby's
album Play is taking the piss.

And that's another thing, how many of those 40 or 50-something dads (Doug
excepted!) who sit there watching tv when a bit of PVD comes on over 'Goal
Of The Month' do you think wonder, "hey that's a good tune!" but when asked
would say that trance was a load of shit?

99% is a conservative estimate, I would say!

That's the sort of thing that gets on *my* nerves..

Don.

--
Music saved my life - I gotta thank God for it...

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[Doug Greenberg]

<< Flipping through Mademoiselle magazine today in the checkout line at the
store
and I caught a short article on BT, believe it or not. I believe it was a whole
section on "hot" musicians. Eek. Anyways, they said something like "BT has made
an album for the masses" and then they proceeded to quote some lyrics from
Satellite.
Is this the beginning of the end?
*sigh*
Erika RollerGirl
>>

With regard to BT, I've thought so for a while now. His decision to go
"hip-hop" seems to me part of an overall (calculated?) effort to become a
"star" in the U.S. And I definitely think that he's tried to gear some (not
all) of his progressive house tracks to be sufficiently catchy to make it only
top forty radio playlists. This began with the (insipid, in my opinion) track
on his second album called "Lullabye for Gaia"). And I also noticed that the
U.S. release of MISL has a "glamour boy" photo of BT on the cover, rather than
the more abstract/conceptual cover of the UK release.

I know lots of people disagree with what I'm saying, and I certainly respect
people's affection for BT's recent material, but when I compare MISL with IMA,
I see a definite move toward the commercial mainstream, sigh.
--Doug

[Shokuzin]

>I know lots of people disagree with what I'm saying, and I certainly respect
>people's affection for BT's recent material, but when I compare MISL with
>IMA,
>I see a definite move toward the commercial mainstream, sigh.
>--Doug
>
>

Your point is well taken and another thing, doesn't BT live in Beverly Hills,
California now?? With a supermodel wife right?

[Crash Kitten]

I've been in to BT since around 95/96 and love his stuff but I also don't like the way it is
heading. To be honest having heard some of the tracks from MISL I haven't even been tempted to buy
it.

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"Doug Greenberg" <dag...@aol.com> wrote in message
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<< Flipping through Mademoiselle magazine today in the checkout line at the
store
and I caught a short article on BT, believe it or not. I believe it was a whole
section on "hot" musicians. Eek. Anyways, they said something like "BT has made
an album for the masses" and then they proceeded to quote some lyrics from
Satellite.
Is this the beginning of the end?
*sigh*
Erika RollerGirl
>>
With regard to BT, I've thought so for a while now. His decision to go
"hip-hop" seems to me part of an overall (calculated?) effort to become a
"star" in the U.S. And I definitely think that he's tried to gear some (not
all) of his progressive house tracks to be sufficiently catchy to make it only
top forty radio playlists. This began with the (insipid, in my opinion) track
on his second album called "Lullabye for Gaia"). And I also noticed that the
U.S. release of MISL has a "glamour boy" photo of BT on the cover, rather than
the more abstract/conceptual cover of the UK release.

I know lots of people disagree with what I'm saying, and I certainly respect

[Stan C]

On 05 Jul 2000, dag...@aol.com (Doug Greenberg) said something like:

>And I also noticed that the U.S. release of MISL has a
>"glamour boy" photo of BT on the cover, rather than the more
>abstract/conceptual cover of the UK release.
>

I suppose BT and PvD would make better poster-boys for trance than Oakie
with his 20 inch nostrils...

:D
--
-Stan

"I don't do drugs. I am a drug, take me" - Martin Freeland

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[Justin Lee]

Hasn't anyone else noticed just how strange Paul Van Dyk's eyes look?! Look
at the cover of the CD he did for Muzik mag! Decent enough CD though.
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[RoS]

Greetings, moviefactory <movief...@onetel.net.uk>! You wrote:
> Shokuzin <shok...@aol.comwhoa> wrote in message
> news:20000705063157...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> > Let us give (and grieve) a moment of silence for the gaining
popularity..
> Of..
> > Paul Van Dyk.. And Brian.. Transeau..
>
> I think the overground has caught up with the underground..So I don't
think
> it'll take long B4 we see PVD on Top of the Pop's...But I don't understand
> why you wanna Grieve.....If people get into Dance music by way of ATB to
PVD
> to Sasha to Ritchie Hawtin to Goldie..Whats the problem..It makes our
scean
> stronger..It's a bit of a selfish attitude to take,wanting to keep Trance
> music (or any music for that matter) to yourself??..I hope I have got the
> right end of the stick here..If not I apologise.

BTW artists like Orb and FSOL have appeared in Tops Of The Pops, but they're
still underground:)

PS: anyone got Papua New Guinea recorded at Tops Of The Pops?
PPS: FSOL will release a new album this year:)

[Andrew Spencer]

<snip>

>
>PS: anyone got Papua New Guinea recorded at Tops Of The Pops?
>PPS: FSOL will release a new album this year:)
>
>
>
>

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a new FSOL album? waaaahheeyy!!!!
now I wonder what THIS ONE will sound like then?

Lifeforms is still the greatest though.

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andy
:)
the TechnoHippy

[moviefactory]

RoS wrote in message

> BTW artists like Orb and FSOL have appeared in Tops Of The Pops, but
they're
> still underground:)

I agree RoS..But I was refering to the Euro-Trance sound & not one
perticular band or artist :)..They were one off !!...The Euro thing appears
every week now,in one guise or another.

Anyone know if Sasha is ever gonna release his version of Papua New Guinea ?

"G"

RoS <ros@europe..com> wrote in message
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> Greetings, moviefactory <movief...@onetel.net.uk>! You wrote:
> > Shokuzin <shok...@aol.comwhoa> wrote in message
> > news:20000705063157...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> > > Let us give (and grieve) a moment of silence for the gaining
> popularity..
> > Of..
> > > Paul Van Dyk.. And Brian.. Transeau..
> >
> > I think the overground has caught up with the underground..So I don't
> think
> > it'll take long B4 we see PVD on Top of the Pop's...But I don't
understand
> > why you wanna Grieve.....If people get into Dance music by way of ATB to
> PVD
> > to Sasha to Ritchie Hawtin to Goldie..Whats the problem..It makes our
> scean
> > stronger..It's a bit of a selfish attitude to take,wanting to keep
Trance
> > music (or any music for that matter) to yourself??..I hope I have got
the
> > right end of the stick here..If not I apologise.
>
>
> BTW artists like Orb and FSOL have appeared in Tops Of The Pops, but
they're
> still underground:)
>

[moviefactory]

[moviefactory]

[moviefactory]

Sorry :) Dunno what happend!

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