I wanted not to like it, but I did "Scott Bauer" is super. Maybe it
will get old after repeated listening, but it stays in my head after
the music stops.
Cecil hits several of my faves here - "Unsupervised" is such a great
song, one ot the only good ones off that album. No idea what the heck
it means, but it feels deeply personal to Flansburgh, whatever he is
saying; there is so much emotion in it, so much flavor of his
consciousness, or, rather what I imagined the inside of his head feels
like to him. It smells, what? nostalgic? a eulogy for some event,
time, set of people, feeling about life, that is gone. I just can't
help feeling the song is personal to him, so, even if the lyrics make
no sense to me, I can't shake the sense he has told me something
important about himself when I listen.
Okay, that reads weirdly when I write it out, but it's true. Ha ha.
The song *feels* Flansburghish, whatever that means, and I really like
it.
"Am I Awake?" is also a fave of mine, and for similar evocative reasons
- this reminds me of being sleep deprived, the stuff that happens to
your head when you are exhausted. I enjoy the odd physical sensations
this creates when listened to on headphones - my arms and shoulder skin
prickles, the hair stands up, the pulsing and weaving back and forth
sounds that grow and fade are gently oceanic, trying to push my head
around on my neck, and with my eyes closed, the visuals are freaky.
This one is a drug trip via sound, which is uber coooool. At certain
points, I can actually see in my mind's eye what John Linnell's voice
*looks* like.
Like the 50's style musical opening. Like the Mr T short sung, I
assume, by the lovely Mrs. Flansburgh. Love "Renew My Subscription,"
but I have for quite a while, and find myself singing it for some
reason while doing laundry, or in the Metro parking garage. *har hra
har* Miserable Freakshow Quarterly subscription, *har har har*
HOWEVER, I find with the podcasts, only repeated listening will reveal
if this was a good podcast or if parts will become irritating. zB:
"P.S.O.K." from 5B or 5A bugs the everlovin' crap outta me now, as
does "Sidewalk Whirlwind."
Well I don't know about *that*. IFTS is definitely the better album, but
Unsupervised has some other solid stuff. I really really like Don't I
Have the Right, Nixon's the One and most of the covers are fun, To Serve
Mankind is freakycool, and come on, what about Careless Santa??
--
Quinn
http://www.museumofidiots.com
"the website that some call eternal, that some call insane"
All the Democrats I've talked to know exactly what they stand for: not
being Republicans. ~The Onion
I kinda like Careless Santa, I confess. I dunno, the album felt sloppy
to me for some reason. There was a cover I liked, but it is telling
that I can't bring the name of it to mind, isn't it? No, wait, Did You
Miss Me, or something like that. I guess I expected too much. I must
track down It's Fun To Steal, because that gets more nods from the
fans.
I liked the cover art, how about that.
Ah, that would be Hello Hello, by everyone's favourite creepy pedophile
rocker, Gary Glitter.
> I must
> track down It's Fun To Steal, because that gets more nods from the
> fans.
Oh, definitely. IFTS is chockfull of goodness. DO IT.
Am I the only one who likes Unsupervised better than IFTS? IFTS has
some cool songs on it (I really like "Extra Crispy"--probably my
favorite Mono Puff tune), but clearly, for my money, Unsupervised is
the better album when taken as a whole.
Well Unsupervised is lots of covers, filler, instrumentals, and its
really short, and lots of songs feel that they may as well be TMBG
songs. (and some were labeled tmbg songs on dial-a-song, like "nixons
the one" etc). "I Hit My Head" and "Careless Santa" ARE among
Flansburgh's best ever though.
IFTS is most definitely uniquely MONO PUFF...There's more original
songs, the band is tighter, its more eclectic and ambitious, its got
some of Flans' best material (especially from around that time.)
Generally it feels more original and singular to me...
I think Backstabbing Liar and I Just Found Out What Everybody Knows and
Creepy and Mr. Hughes Says are real big album standouts. Where has
Flans been hiding that stuff? Amazing. Not just Flans but the whole
band... I love how the bridges of lots of Mono Puff songs (mr. hughes,
creepy, etc) are these complex and expertly arranged jams with the
band... listen to the basslines and the guitar riffs, the
percussion...Really really original.
-Jordan
After hearing Am I Awake again, I think, as I ALWAYS think when i hear
this song...
JESUS this is one of their BEST songs. Does anyone else think this
could have been a potential hit single for them? Maybe not HIT HIT,
but fairly popular? This is one of their most accessible, emotional,
dark, haunting, catchy songs....All my friends who DON'T LIKE TMBG love
this song. It really seems to break that barrier...
It's definitely one of my fav tmbg songs...especially in recent years..
-Jordan
Totally! I love it. I put it up there with Museum of Idiots (another
song that I have *no idea* what the lyrics are about, like "I Hit My
Head") for sheer evocative power, for the ability to press buttons and
work levers in my brain.
It's kind of a weird little miracle that something as ephemeral as
music can do that, help you see and feel things you never did before,
make you resonate at its frequency a little. So cool. Apart from
their smart alecky pop culture referencing, the dumb puns, etc, the
real genius of TMBG, if that's not too excessive a word, is that it
plucks at your brain on many levels. If I want my consciousness messed
with, I personally hand my brain over to Them (ew) for poking or
zapping or lightly sauteing in garlic and butter or whatever it is that
They do to it aurally.
So, yeah, I don't understand why Am I Awake? isn't a hit.
Hmm... NO idea what Museum of Idiots is about?
If you may indulge me for a moment...
Museum of Idiots is one of my favorite TMBG songs, cause it is one of
the few emotional ones that really hurt me. When I listen to that song
I really feel pain, I tear up, I can't bear it. In fact I often skip
it if i'm not in the mood.. I really relate to it..
I don't think its as clever or oblique as other Linnell songs. I think
it's just capturing a simple thing... a doomed sad relationship.
He (or the narrator, whatever) is trying so hard to keep a relationship
together. He keeps building it up, it keeps getting burned down. The
problem is that he's STUPID. He's STUPID. STUPID. He's an idiot.
(Can you guess why i relate to this?).
"Honey I'm there when you need me, please believe me, please believe
me!"
I don't think you need to try to hard to interpret a lot of these
lyrics. That line kills me.
"I'll still be right where you left me.. if you manage to forget me..."
"If you and I had any brains, we wouldn't be in this place"
That statement is so obvious. It's obvious cause the museum of idiots
is clearly without brains. But it's also obvious because this
relationship is FAILING, the pieces are falling apart, HE keeps acting
like an idiot, SHE keeps acting like an idiot (i assume), He is
staying in his town, even when it burns down. He's always lived there
and will never escape. He's afraid of change and he's afraid of
progressing in life. This relationbship is FALLING APART, he's being
chopped into pieces, CHOP CHOP CHOP, PAIN PAIN PAIN, they care about
each other but they DON'T KNOW how to make it work (THE MORORNS!!!)
NOTHING IS WORKING....
"But when all the chopping is through, every piece will say i love you"
I'm gonna go cry now
-Jordan
> That statement is so obvious. It's obvious cause the museum of idiots
> is clearly without brains. But it's also obvious because this
> relationship is FAILING, the pieces are falling apart, HE keeps acting
> like an idiot, SHE keeps acting like an idiot (i assume), He is
> staying in his town, even when it burns down. He's always lived there
> and will never escape. He's afraid of change and he's afraid of
> progressing in life. This relationbship is FALLING APART, he's being
> chopped into pieces, CHOP CHOP CHOP, PAIN PAIN PAIN, they care about
> each other but they DON'T KNOW how to make it work (THE MORORNS!!!)
> NOTHING IS WORKING....
>
> "But when all the chopping is through, every piece will say i love you"
Jordan, I think you are projecting a little here.
Shouldn't you be more upset that someone in another thread just killed
Linnell?
you bastards.
-scratch
> Am I the only one who likes Unsupervised better than IFTS? IFTS has
> some cool songs on it (I really like "Extra Crispy"--probably my
> favorite Mono Puff tune), but clearly, for my money, Unsupervised is
> the better album when taken as a whole.
I think that IFTS might be the "better" album, but I enjoy listening to
Unsupervised much more. I am incapable of not singing/talking along with
Distant Antenna, Hello Hello, and Dr. Kildare.
--
I'm back again
Robert Hutchinson | "Audiences won't soon forget when the
| thing-we-didn't-know-what-it-was was put into
| the helicopter by the guy we didn't know."
| -- Servo, MST3K, 810, Giant Spider Invasion
See I like those 3 tracks a lot, but the first one is filler (ie its
not a song), the 2nd one is a cover, and the 3rd one is a COVER thats
also filler...
I just think IFTS has more meat to it
-Jordan
Well, again, that's what I mean by calling IFTS the "better" album. It
has more meat to it. But I prefer Unsupervised's assorted junk food.
--
>
> Well, again, that's what I mean by calling IFTS the "better" album. It
> has more meat to it. But I prefer Unsupervised's assorted junk food.
Hmm that's a good way of putting it.
Maybe a best-of album would kick ass. Cause it would have "I Hit My
Head" but it would also have "Backstabbing Liar." Wait...both albums
are so short they can even fit onto 1 CD...
Oh, I've only recently REALLY gotten into "So Long Mockingbird".. DAMN
this is a beautiful haunting song...Really underrated flans song. He
seems scared of slow songs so I don't blame him for hiding it on a mono
puff album, but i think this is one of his best!
-Jordan
Really? I thought Flans was the only one that DID write slow songs! I'll
Sink Manhattan... Piece of Dirt... Road Movie To Berlin... Hearing Aid... If
I Wasnt Shy... Extra Savoire Faire... Mink Car... Drink...
And some of those I just mentioned get played SLOWER when they perform them
live!
Dar
> And some of those I just mentioned get played SLOWER when they perform them
> live!
It would be interesting to hear, instead of a "glacially slow" version
of "Drink" to hear a "tsunami-fast" version--like "Speed Metal Drink"
or something similar.
Flans mentioned in a few interviews that he doesn't think TMBG pull off
slow songs the way other bands do....Like why they made Finished With
Lies faster, and why (in i think the last time) they played "certain
people i could name" they sped it up and made it more dumb and poppy
sounding... granted those are both linnell but flans was just making a
general statement.. And how many of the songs you named do they play
live? It seems TMBG only have 1 or 2 slow songs a show... And good...
cause they put on high energy rock shows.
Flans is right though... they can't pull off slow songs as well.. cause
they aren't an emotional band. When me and my friend saw Camper Van
Beethoven live and they did these slow quiet ballads, they were really
effective and moving and hypnotizing and powerful and dynamic.... and
we talked about how TMBG just don't do that.
Now personally I love the slow Finished With Lies and i think Linnell
is amazing and sad on it... But as a live act they just don't put the
emotion into the slow stuff. Cause they're intellectual wise guys (and
rockers). They're too worried about boring you, so they wanna pep it
up.
I feel the same way at my own shows...I worry a slow song will bore
everyone. I even speeded up a really sad slow song of mine and i
regret doing it, cause it turned into a really forgettable average
performance, and maybe it COULD have been moving and powerful if i
trusted myself to take my time and slow it down. I just rushed through
it like it was bad or something.
-Jordan