GERI'S HOLIDAY-DAY 3
Luke Peterson
From the Sunday Mail:
TO MAKE SURE I DON'T GET PICTURED TODAY, I'M GOING TO LOOK LIKE BABY SPICE
GERI'S HOLIDAY-DAY 3
PUBLICITY-SHY Geri Halliwell desperately tried to avoid any more holiday
pictures yesterday ... and the camera shutters drowned out the band playing
"Believe it if you like."
The former Ginger Spice's "secret" break on an Italian island of Filicudi
has become the world's most photographed holiday. Er, since her last one.
And yesterday she was back in front of the cameras dipping in and out of the
sea from a luxury yacht, wearing a polka-dot bikini, and with her hair up in
bunches like Baby Spice.
She even carried a pink kids' rucksack - former bandmate Emma Bunton's
favourite colour.
On Friday, she was snapped yelling at an Italian photographer whose scooter
keys she "confiscated".
Pino Angelini called cops and Geri gave the keys back, complete with a
charming one-fingered salute.
Geri has mercilessly milked the media for publicity in recent months to
boost sales of her new album but snappers following her jaunt in Italy were
stunned by her vile rant at Angelini.
Article: http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P3S1.shtml
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> On Friday, she was snapped yelling at an Italian photographer whose scooter
> keys she "confiscated".
>
> Pino Angelini called cops and Geri gave the keys back, complete with a
> charming one-fingered salute.
>
> Geri has mercilessly milked the media for publicity in recent months to
> boost sales of her new album but snappers following her jaunt in Italy were
> stunned by her vile rant at Angelini.
Did she say anything about him being a "young whippersnapper"?
kbudd :- >
boost sales of her new album but snappers following her jaunt in Italy were
stunned by her vile rant at Angelini.
Its typical of Geri and the rest of the Spice clan.
There whole career was based on media spin now they seem to think they can
turn it off like a tap.
WRONG!!
Its like Pandora's box Geri, you opened it.
Kev Budd
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> Geri has mercilessly milked the media for publicity in recent months to
> boost sales of her new album but snappers following her jaunt in Italy were
> stunned by her vile rant at Angelini.
>
> Its typical of Geri and the rest of the Spice clan.
>
> There whole career was based on media spin now they seem to think they can
> turn it off like a tap.
>
> WRONG!!
>
> Its like Pandora's box Geri, you opened it.
>
> Kev Budd
I don't know what you're trying to prove, Kev, but here's your art-world
equivalent...
http://www.stuckism.com/
KjBudd
"We propose the decriminalisation of drugs, brothels and adult hard-core
porn (including consensual 'S & M')."
Thanks mate, they sound OK to me.
If they throw in incest I bet even you would be interested right?
love as always
Kev Budd
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> Hey adam
>
> "We propose the decriminalisation of drugs, brothels and adult hard-core
> porn (including consensual 'S & M')."
>
> Thanks mate, they sound OK to me.
>
> If they throw in incest I bet even you would be interested right?
>
> love as always
>
> Kev Budd
Funny how *that's* the very secondary part you single out...I guess you're just
a Joe-Blow-from-Billericay "who-the-f**k's-this-Damien-Hirst" libertarian
yahoo, after all.
http://www.support.synergy-interactive.co.uk/stuckism/party/Manifesto2.html
...read again; their views on art are pretty well the corollary to your views
on the Spice Girls. (Or rock critics, for that matter--especially those who
enshrine commercial shite like Kasenetz-Katz, the Spice Girls, etc, in
pretentious gestures that have nothing to do with *harrumph* "good music".)
And maybe not entirely without justification. Maybe even *I'm* pitching to
Saatchian whims. (The Spice Girls certainly were, in a sense--hey, remember:
the Saatchis *made* Thatcher.)
Just trying to elevate things to a higher level of discussion.
Now, reread, dear Spice Stuckist, and discuss the following...
The Stuckist Party
Manifesto 2001
Introduction
The Stuckist Party is an officially registered political party with the
Electoral Commission. It is a separate organization to the Stuckist Art Group,
although that is its origin. The Art Group was started to promote painting and
integrity in art, and oppose the current hype and marketing values of Brit Art.
The Stuckist Party acknowledges that the abuses of the art world also need a
political solution.
Artists have traditionally taken a radical stance on society, which has often
followed their vision. This is a formalising of that position.
The main aim of The Stuckist Party is to do what artists and poets have always
done in thinking the unthinkable, saying the unsayable, challenging the
complacencies and assumptions of the status quo, and thereby paving the way for
new and previously undared solutions to present problems.
Aims from the Party Constitution
The Stuckist Party aims to bring the ideas of Stuckism and Remodernism into the
political arena.
The Stuckist Party aims at the reversal of the values of a greed-motivated
society and the bringing about of a spiritual renaissance, which can only be
accomplished by society incorporating and taking responsibility for the shadow
side it prefers to disown. We consider the bringing of our ideas to public
attention is as important as, if not more important than, the actual attainment
of political power.
Policies: addressing the art establishment
We do not allow a monopoly on fridges, so why do we allow one on art?
The last decade of art in this country has been dominated by the buying power,
media manipulation and taste of one man, Charles Saatchi. His admitted
addiction to the ‘new’ has led to a succession of increasing absurdities,
gimmicks masquerading as invention, and contrived outrages. Most of the
country’s serious artists, who continue to paint, are excluded from
consideration to the detriment of our culture.
This process has been promoted also with public money, through the narrow
taste of Sir Nicholas Serota at the Tate Gallery, notoriously in the Turner
Prize, which Turner himself would certainly stand no chance of winning. Tate
Britain Director, Stephen Deuchar,’s proud boast of providing a ‘comprehensive
overview of British Art’ beggars belief. Turner Prize winners and nominees
(all selected in secret), as well as contemporary art purchases, come from a
handful out of the 2,500 galleries in the country.
A more pernicious, and largely unseen, form of abuse is Arts Council funding of
the visual arts. Again the same narrow range of taste prevails of an elite art
establishment. Artists are promoted by the Arts Council, which then buys work
at the high price its promotion has brought about. Artists who already benefit
from wealthy gallery backing benefit from public funding , while deserving but
‘unfashionable’ artists are ignored. Worst of all in this respect is the
presence on the Arts Council of those whose professional associates benefit
from their allocation of public funding, or who even benefit themselves. The
Arts Council is neither answerable to Parliament, nor democratically elected.
It is clearly obvious that the state of art in this country is at the very
least questionable, and at worst blatantly corrupt in a way which would not be
permitted elsewhere in public administration or industry. The Government has
failed lamentably not only to address this but even to recognize it, preferring
instead to ingratiate itself with ephemera of ‘Cool Britannia’. Values of
integrity, accountability and fairness for the benefit of the wider community
must be applied in the art world as well as in general society.
David Lee, editor of Jackdaw art magazine, has agreed to act as a consultant
over these issues. For a more detailed analysis or specific examples, contact
him at 020 7502 1393 (mobile 0777 3673722).
Promoted by, on behalf of and printed by Charles Thomson, PO Box 7312,
Whitchurch, Hampshire RG28 7YQ.
And, to get more elemental,
http://www.support.synergy-interactive.co.uk/stuckism/info.html
STUCKISM is a new, radical art movement founded to advance the cause of
painting as the most vital artistic means of addressing contemporary issues.
STUCKISM is a rebuttal of the twentieth century development of modernism, which
has resulted in an increasingly fragmented, isolated, material-obsessed and
stultifying academia, existing not by virtue of the work but institutional and
financial power, flattered by a surfeit of critical acquiescence.
The STUCKISTS are, therefore, opposed to the current pretensions of so-called
BRIT ART, PERFORMANCE ART, INSTALLATION ART, VIDEO ART, CONCEPTUAL ART, MINIMAL
ART and anything claiming to be art which incorporates dead animals or beds -
mainly because they are unremarkable and boring.
The name STUCKISM was derived, in the best art historical tradition, from an
insult, in this case from last year's Turner Prize Nominee TRACEY EMIN to
ex-boyfriend BILLY CHILDISH: "Your paintings are stuck, you are stuck! Stuck!
Stuck! Stuck!"
This was quoted in a poem by Billy Childish. CHARLES THOMSON subsequently
coined the term STUCKISM and they joined forces to found a group. The most
important ideas behind this impetus are contained in a co-written Manifesto.
This has been followed by Remodernism 'towards a new spirituality in art', a
period to replace the current bankruptcy of Postmodernism.
Eleven other artists were invited to exhibit as the Stuckist group, because the
co-founders wished to promote their work. The core members of the group have
been in creative collaboration through art, poetry and music over the last
twenty years (see History).
Members do not necessarily agree with all the ideas of the co-founders or like
all the work included.
The connection between the work can only be appreciated behind the stylistic
diversity in the common importance of emotional engagement, meaning, content
and communication.
There has been a lot of interest in joining Stuckism, and the best way is to
start your own group and exhibit. Students for Stuckism is an example of this.
Remodernism provides a framework to include those working in disciplines other
than painting (and even outside the arts altogether), who subscribe to the same
values as the Stuckists. Social evenings are held at the Arts Club, London.
Mr Poo Poo
>pictures yesterday ... and the camera shutters drowned out the band playing
>"Believe it if you like."
It's hard for Scary to be publicity shy. You can find-out wherever she is by
following this trail on the ground
http://www.drfun.com/starport.gif
KjBudd
Thanks for your usual patronizing bollocks.
Damien Hurst?? Yeah, talented guy.
I actually admire someone who can cut a cow in half and sell it for shit
loads to money to a bunch of pretentious arty types.
Ive told you before adam about trying to "elevate discussion" on here.
Us mere mortals find it hard to engage with a higher being like you, not all
of us spend time up our own arses.
Still, nice to hear from you as always.
love
KB
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> Hey adam
>
> Thanks for your usual patronizing bollocks.
>
> Damien Hurst?? Yeah, talented guy.
> I actually admire someone who can cut a cow in half and sell it for shit
> loads to money to a bunch of pretentious arty types.
So? Doesn't that equal the Spice Girls in the Cool Britannia-era noxious hype
sense? Think of it...
> Ive told you before adam about trying to "elevate discussion" on here.
> Us mere mortals find it hard to engage with a higher being like you, not all
> of us spend time up our own arses.
Well, maybe that's it...you're too "mere mortal" for your own good.
Think of it. It isn't that you're slamming the Spice Girls that's so
obnoxious--it's that even I can outdo you on the hypothetical *anti*-Spice tip.
You're, like, uninspired. Middlebrow. Ordinary-blokish, and obnoxiously so.
An aesthetic conservative who thinks he's "progressive", and nothing to do with
politics, per se (if you read the Stuckist manifesto, you'll see how, re public
institutions et al, it's more traditional-Labourite than Thatcher-Blairite).
But as an upholder of so-called "real", hype-free aesthetic values, you're not
even up to the Stuckists.
Basically, you're nothing more than the garden-variety Joe Blow voice of
artistic protest who goes to the steps of an art gallery, with canvas and
paint-roller, paints a "masterpiece", and asks for ten million bob.
I guess such pretentious twaddle on behalf of "art" is no different from the
pointy-heads who give arguments on behalf of the Spice Girls as a pop phenomenon
(or even "pop art" of a sort) without calling it for what it is: crap music by
non-talents.
I wanna be your Tracy Emin, and use you as my canvas. Which is kind of like
a Turner-endorsed forced sexual-and-otherwise assault, I guess...
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> In article <CH6X6.108762$ML4.7...@nnrp4.clara.net>,
> "KjBudd" <kjb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey adam
> >
> >
> > "We propose the decriminalisation of drugs, brothels and adult hard-core
> > porn (including consensual 'S & M')."
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks mate, they sound OK to me.
> >
> > If they throw in incest I bet even you would be interested right?
>
> I hate incest. It stinks. The worst thing is, you can't destroy it by
> burning it!
I hear Tomb Raider's the #1 box office flick this weekend, nyah nyah
KjBudd
You're losing me, I've said before I only got a 2:1 in my degree!!
I don't think I've ever tried to be pretentious, I'm just saying it how I
see it.
If you agree, fine.
If you disagree, fine.
I don't pretend to have any powers of persuasion over pop fans, they'll grow
out of it.
I'll sign off now, I don't want to take up your valuable time surfing the
net looking for pretentious sites to post on here and try and impress us
with, I had my fill of those types at University thanks.
Kev Budd
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> Hey adam
>
> You're losing me, I've said before I only got a 2:1 in my degree!!
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to be pretentious, I'm just saying it how I
> see it.
>
> If you agree, fine.
> If you disagree, fine.
>
> I don't pretend to have any powers of persuasion over pop fans, they'll grow
> out of it.
>
> I'll sign off now, I don't want to take up your valuable time surfing the
> net looking for pretentious sites to post on here and try and impress us
> with, I had my fill of those types at University thanks.
Time could be better spent looking for porn?
--
You've just been possessed by the Dark 1 - Have a nice day!
Mr Poo Poo
I wanna see Geri's 2 for 1 flop around when she does this...
http://worldzone.net/arts/emerald/women/babekiss.gif
Mr Poo Poo
>>
With Geri, I wanna order a 2 for 1 Plz-a....
Mr Poo Poo
>burning it!
You think that stinks? Mel B's living room stinks. She saves her waste and turns
it into lamps...
http://worldzone.net/arts/emeralds/groovy/lavalamp3.gif
Mr Poo Poo
>sea from a luxury yacht, wearing a polka-dot bikini, and with her hair up in
>bunches like Baby Spice.
>
Always camera shy also, Mel B occasionally alters her image. Yet when
photographers happen to recognize her...she gets quite annoyed, as shown here...
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Hey, he said "uncle". Right when I was about to propose that he be forced to
watch Tracey Emin have sex with his children...you know, "art"...
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"KjBudd" <kjb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I don't pretend to have any powers of persuasion over pop fans, they'll grow
> out of it.
Will they? Or is pop actually the ultimate mature music - about life?
It's obvious you haven't heard of the "Adult Fans Of Pop" group. There
are a lot. For example, I know someone who's 52 years old, and his
favorite song from the 1990's is Viva Forever.
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They're either pathetic losers or pretentious twats. Duh;-)
Erik Stutzman
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Of course that begs the question- how many actually like the music, as
opposed to the people singing it? I freely admit to despising so-called
'boybands'- probably because I don't swing that way. Pop music is about
looks as much (if not more) than talent, so it wouldn't surprise me that
numerous adults would be very interested in pop tarts (and boys) aged
18-24..
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> Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> successful then?
Because she's an excellent male role model. Duh
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> I know the people who run the club. They only take people who like the
> music. Besides, would adults appreciate the ever-increasing amount of
> little kids in the charts?
Some might. ;-)
> Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> successful then?
Obviously pop can't be completely based on looks - There has to be a
certain amount of talent involved, but some have more of one than the
other - Guess which Mel has more of. Only the very best have lots of
both...
<Trev>
Like Geri! Yay!
</Trev>
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> 3rd Album <webm...@dancepop.zzn.com> wrote:
>
> > I know the people who run the club. They only take people who like the
> > music. Besides, would adults appreciate the ever-increasing amount of
> > little kids in the charts?
>
> Some might. ;-)
>
> > Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> > successful then?
>
> Obviously pop can't be completely based on looks - There has to be a
> certain amount of talent involved, but some have more of one than the
> other - Guess which Mel has more of.
Nine inches worth
> Only the very best have lots of
> both...
>
> <Trev>
> Like Geri! Yay!
> </Trev>
Geri has nice lots of both
Erik Stutzman
> In article <fSfY6.70$71....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> music. Besides, would adults appreciate the ever-increasing amount of
> little kids in the charts?
Why not? The music isn't being written by those little kids- which allegedly
is all they care about.
The idea that someone actually likes Viva Forever is mind-boggling enough-
the idea that they would like it no matter which tarts (or boys) performed
it is even more disturbing.
>
> Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> successful then?
Given the sheer number of people at message boards like 'Dyke Spice', I'd
say it is definitely based on looks. Just because her look doesn't
necessarily appeal to people like you (or your pop purist pals) doesn't mean
it's not a factor. I don't think Mel has any talent- all she can do is
scream while drunk. I'm sorry I ever thought of her as being talented..
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"Erik Stutzman" <sstu...@skyenet.net> wrote:
> 3rd Album <webm...@dancepop.zzn.com> wrote in message
> news:webmaster-E553E...@news.iprimus.com.au...
> Why not? The music isn't being written by those little kids- which allegedly
> is all they care about.
Not really, no.
> The idea that someone actually likes Viva Forever is mind-boggling enough-
> the idea that they would like it no matter which tarts (or boys) performed
> it is even more disturbing.
Well, of course, it depends. If Girls@Play did a cover of Viva Forever,
it wouldn't be good because they can't sing. If a different group had
recorded Viva Forever, they still would've liked it.
> > Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> > successful then?
>
> Given the sheer number of people at message boards like 'Dyke Spice', I'd
> say it is definitely based on looks. Just because her look doesn't
> necessarily appeal to people like you (or your pop purist pals) doesn't mean
> it's not a factor. I don't think Mel has any talent- all she can do is
> scream while drunk. I'm sorry I ever thought of her as being talented..
You ever thought of her as talented? Geez, and I thought I was a naughty
boy for buying her album! (that was a long time ago!)
Mel C doesn't just appeal to gay people. Why do some straight people
become gay icons? I don't get it.
Erik Stutzman
> In article <gUFY6.403$nR....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> "Erik Stutzman" <sstu...@skyenet.net> wrote:
>
> > 3rd Album <webm...@dancepop.zzn.com> wrote in message
> > news:webmaster-E553E...@news.iprimus.com.au...
>
> > Why not? The music isn't being written by those little kids- which
allegedly
> > is all they care about.
>
> Not really, no.
I'm confused then. I'll just chalk it up to old wankers and be done with it.
>
> > The idea that someone actually likes Viva Forever is mind-boggling
enough-
> > the idea that they would like it no matter which tarts (or boys)
performed
> > it is even more disturbing.
>
> Well, of course, it depends. If Girls@Play did a cover of Viva Forever,
> it wouldn't be good because they can't sing. If a different group had
> recorded Viva Forever, they still would've liked it.
Ah yes, the old "act X can't sing because I say so" line. Well, the SG can't
sing either, so that shoots down that theory..
>
> > > Is pop based on looks? This question comes up a lot. Why is Mel C so
> > > successful then?
> >
> > Given the sheer number of people at message boards like 'Dyke Spice',
I'd
> > say it is definitely based on looks. Just because her look doesn't
> > necessarily appeal to people like you (or your pop purist pals) doesn't
mean
> > it's not a factor. I don't think Mel has any talent- all she can do is
> > scream while drunk. I'm sorry I ever thought of her as being talented..
>
> You ever thought of her as talented? Geez, and I thought I was a naughty
> boy for buying her album! (that was a long time ago!)
I thought her voice was nice on some of the SG songs- obviously she wasn't
the one singing.
>
> Mel C doesn't just appeal to gay people. Why do some straight people
> become gay icons? I don't get it.
1. I never said that was her only appeal- I simply said that her look
(whatever it happens to be at the moment) is at least as important as her
alleged talent when it comes to her success.
2. That brings up the old "is she straight/gay/bi?" argument again-
something I'd rather pass on.