ART - Mini Zwan article from Kerrang
Fish
but at 84 they had Zwan -
"With ex-Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlain, ex-Chavez guitarist/vocalist Matt
Sweeney and underground luminary David 'Skullfisher' Pajo established as his
band, Billy Corgan's Zwan project has lift-off. According to reports from the
four gigs the band recently played in California, Zwan nods to Corgan's former
band in its quite-loud moments, as well as incorporating a heavy Beatles
influence. The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
(U2, Smashing Pumpkins) at the helm and Corgan recently told the Chigaco
Tribune he feels "like a million bucks" thanks to his new band. Song titles
include: 'Chrysanthemum', 'Jesus I' and 'Never Give Up'.
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Pumpkinxyu
>hope)
>but at 84 they had Zwan -
>"With ex-Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlain, ex-Chavez guitarist/vocalist
>Matt
>Sweeney and underground luminary David 'Skullfisher' Pajo established as his
>band, Billy Corgan's Zwan project has lift-off. According to reports from the
>four gigs the band recently played in California, Zwan nods to Corgan's
>former
>band in its quite-loud moments, as well as incorporating a heavy Beatles
>influence. The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
>(U2, Smashing Pumpkins) at the helm and Corgan recently told the Chigaco
>Tribune he feels "like a million bucks" thanks to his new band. Song titles
>include: 'Chrysanthemum', 'Jesus I' and 'Never Give Up'.
>
flood. hell to the yeah. rock power x 1000000.
Love,
Steve
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Steve Patrick
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> The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
is this truth or speculation?
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>
> Fish <fish...@aol.com.bunk> wrote in message
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> > The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
>
> is this truth or speculation?
>
God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
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Weston Hogan
Like maybe Billy Corgan. He'd do a good job.
-Weston Hogan
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Pumpkinxyu
>>
>> is this truth or speculation?
>>
>
>God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
i see what you're saying, but from looking at flood's work with the pumpkins
and just his track record in general with U2, NIN, etc, he never seems to
repeat himself. best producer of all time, in my opinion. besides, he's
merciless with track selection. the man cut set the ray to jerry from an album,
for god's sake. : - )
Jonathan McArthur
| >> > The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
| >> is this truth or speculation?
| >God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
| i see what you're saying, but from looking at flood's work with the pumpkins
| and just his track record in general with U2, NIN, etc, he never seems to
| repeat himself. best producer of all time, in my opinion. besides, he's
| merciless with track selection. the man cut set the ray to jerry from an album,
| for god's sake. : - )
Yeah, but he kept "TOASE", "Love", "X.Y.U.", et cetera. He's not merciless
with track selection, he's poor when it comes down to it.
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Pumpkinxyu
>| >> is this truth or speculation?
>| >God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
>| i see what you're saying, but from looking at flood's work with the
>pumpkins
>| and just his track record in general with U2, NIN, etc, he never seems to
>| repeat himself. best producer of all time, in my opinion. besides, he's
>| merciless with track selection. the man cut set the ray to jerry from an
>album,
>| for god's sake. : - )
>
>Yeah, but he kept "TOASE", "Love", "X.Y.U.", et cetera. He's not merciless
>with track selection, he's poor when it comes down to it.
although set the ray to jerry is my favorite pumpkins song, i don't think it
would have fit on mellon collie, whereas "TOASE", "Love", and "x.y.u." all fit
perfectly. i think flood is brilliant, and i don't think billy would trust his
music to someone less skilled.
Jason Briggeman
<jvQY7.6694$Li.3...@news02.tsnz.net>:
>"Pumpkinxyu" wrote:
>| besides, he's merciless with track selection. the man cut set
>| the ray to jerry from an album, for god's sake. : - )
>
>Yeah, but he kept "TOASE", "Love", "X.Y.U.", et cetera. He's not
>merciless with track selection, he's poor when it comes down to it.
And he wanted IOTM off Machina. But, that's a good example of how now
Billy's learned to not be dissuaded when brown cow Billy is sure. And
remember Billy did write those goddamned horrible songs.
Flood is the rare producer who can match Billy in terms of expansive vision
and willingness to try anything. Don't deny that his unpredictability fits
Zwan.
--
Jason Briggeman
brig...@earthlink.net
and if you don't like my melody
i'll sing it in a major key
i'll sing it very happily, yeah
but if everybody is all aboard
let's take it back to that minor chord
Jonathan McArthur
| > >> > The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
| >| >> is this truth or speculation?
| >| >God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
| >| i see what you're saying, but from looking at flood's work with the
| >pumpkins
| >| and just his track record in general with U2, NIN, etc, he never seems to
| >| repeat himself. best producer of all time, in my opinion. besides, he's
| >| merciless with track selection. the man cut set the ray to jerry from an album,
| >| for god's sake. : - )
| >Yeah, but he kept "TOASE", "Love", "X.Y.U.", et cetera. He's not merciless
| >with track selection, he's poor when it comes down to it.
| although set the ray to jerry is my favorite pumpkins song, i don't think it
| would have fit on mellon collie, whereas "TOASE", "Love", and "x.y.u." all fit
| perfectly. i think flood is brilliant, and i don't think billy would trust his
| music to someone less skilled.
Oh, I forgot, Flood is also responsible for a whole lot of shitty production
on MCIS. "Love" has the worst production of any Pumpkins song ever.
Including "Autumn Nocturne".
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Brian Shaw
"R. Mast" wrote:
> Steve Patrick wrote:
>
> God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
God knows what he'd have to do to get him, but plain and simple, BILLY
NEEDS ALBINI.
Brian
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many Pixies albums you can copy." - Jonny Greenwood
Jonathan McArthur
| dyna...@paradise.net.nzNOSPAM (Jonathan McArthur) wrote in
| >| besides, he's merciless with track selection. the man cut set
| >| the ray to jerry from an album, for god's sake. : - )
| >Yeah, but he kept "TOASE", "Love", "X.Y.U.", et cetera. He's not
| >merciless with track selection, he's poor when it comes down to it.
| And he wanted IOTM off Machina. But, that's a good example of how now
| Billy's learned to not be dissuaded when brown cow Billy is sure. And
| remember Billy did write those goddamned horrible songs.
Just like Billy wrote "Chicks Just Get In The Way". ^_^
| Flood is the rare producer who can match Billy in terms of expansive vision
| and willingness to try anything. Don't deny that his unpredictability fits
| Zwan.
Eh. I wasn't saying that. Basically what I was saying is that I don't
like Flood much as far as production goes. Yeah, he might be
unpredictable just like those Wacky Zwan Troubadours, but that
doesn't necessarily make him any good.
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eggplant
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>
>
> "R. Mast" wrote:
>
> > Steve Patrick wrote:
> >
> > God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
>
> God knows what he'd have to do to get him, but plain and simple, BILLY
> NEEDS ALBINI.
he'd have to apologize for starters
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Brian Shaw
eggplant wrote:
> > God knows what he'd have to do to get him, but plain and simple, BILLY
> > NEEDS ALBINI.
>
> he'd have to apologize for starters
Well, that's a given, but he'd probably have to wear a Shellac t-shirt at
shows, and then say things onstage like "you know, 'Songs About Fucking' is a
great album," too.
Fish
>
>is this truth or speculation?
I typed what the article said, so I presume it's true, unless Kerrang is lying.
Fish
Steve Patrick
> >
> > God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
im not sure what happened with your cropping, but i didnt say that...
> God knows what he'd have to do to get him, but plain and simple, BILLY
> NEEDS ALBINI.
hmm. i dunno. a friend of mine got to record at steve albinis place, tis
the truth i tell ya.
C-Dawg in the Hizouze
and i still havent forgiven him for it. =)
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::Sigh::
C-Dawg in the Hizouze
Agreed... but even if flood is involved im excited...
C-Dawg in the Hizouze
<<<Well, that's a given, but he'd probably have to wear a Shellac t-shirt at
shows, and then say things onstage like "you know, 'Songs About Fucking' is a
great album," too.>>>
Ya.. and "Rapeman was a big influence on Zwan..and the Smashing Pumpkins"
Brian Shaw
Steve Patrick wrote:
> > > God, I hope it's not Flood, or Butch Vig. Hell, Billy, try someone new.
>
> im not sure what happened with your cropping, but i didnt say that...
Yeah, I know. That's what happens when you trim recklessly.
> > God knows what he'd have to do to get him, but plain and simple, BILLY
> > NEEDS ALBINI.
>
> hmm. i dunno. a friend of mine got to record at steve albinis place, tis
> the truth i tell ya.
I go to lots of Man...or Astro-Man? shows, and they say that Albini is a joy
to work with.
Weston Hogan
>Oh, I forgot, Flood is also responsible for a whole lot of shitty production
>on MCIS. "Love" has the worst production of any Pumpkins song ever.
>Including "Autumn Nocturne".
Haha, Jesus. Because the one note verse riff is so insanely interesting on the
gravity demos. Yeah, Flood ruined that average riff by making it sound
ass-kicking.
Jonathan McArthur
| jonathan mcarthur:
| >Oh, I forgot, Flood is also responsible for a whole lot of shitty production
| >on MCIS. "Love" has the worst production of any Pumpkins song ever.
| >Including "Autumn Nocturne".
| Haha, Jesus. Because the one note verse riff is so insanely interesting on the
| gravity demos. Yeah, Flood ruined that average riff by making it sound
| ass-kicking.
Eh. You say "tomato", I say "the production on 'Love' is shite". Oh well.
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Seven Smallhut
> Fish <fish...@aol.com.bunk> wrote in message
> news:20020102142313...@mb-cv.aol.com...
> > The band are recording their debut album at the moment with Flood
>
> is this truth or speculation?
>
when was this article written? are they talking about november 2001 or
december 2001?
Poison Dan
"Troy" <a...@me.com> wrote in message
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> On 03 Jan 2002 04:40:49 GMT, pumpk...@aol.comrade (Pumpkinxyu)
> wrote:
>
> >although set the ray to jerry is my favorite pumpkins song, i don't think
it
> >perfectly
>
> TBYW.
>
> TOASE is the biggest mistake the Pumpkins have ever released.. ever
>
> -Troy
> Weston, don't bother responding. I already know your opinion.
I disagree with this post.
R. Mast
>
> On 03 Jan 2002 04:40:49 GMT, pumpk...@aol.comrade (Pumpkinxyu)
> wrote:
>
> >perfectly
>
> TBYW.
>
> TOASE is the biggest mistake the Pumpkins have ever released.. ever
>
> -Troy
> Weston, don't bother responding. I already know your opinion.
Your teh biggest mistake your mother evar released.
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Weston Hogan
>"Troy" <a...@me.com> wrote in message
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>> TOASE is the biggest mistake the Pumpkins have ever released.. ever
>>
>> -Troy
>> Weston, don't bother responding. I already know your opinion.
>
>I disagree with this post.
No, he's right, he knows my opinion.
so fuck it all, cause i don't care
so what somehow, somewhere we dared
spacey raygun
"Steve Patrick" <patr...@bigpond.INTERNALcomBUSTION> wrote in message
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pajo told me a few days ago "we went down to key west in early jan to write
songs. in feb and march we will be rehearsing to record. and shortly
afterward we will record a full legnth rock record" of course this isnt
exactly what he said, but it means exactly what he said.
jason